Ikea Board Vs. Real Wood! Which is Stronger? Hydraulic Press Test!
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- Which is the strongest furniture material? MDF board, "Ikea board/melamine board or somekind of wood board? We will use our 5 ton force sensor and 40 ton hydraulic press to find out!
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Man that was inter-rest---ing.....Wood is for its weight is strong stuff....W0W you just killed the shit out of that monster....You did not give it a chance to eat anyone....That was a good video.....0'Thanks much.....!
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Results (in order from weakest to hardest):
Plastic covered furniture board: 186kg / 410lbs
Paulownia: 361kg / 796lbs
MDF: 575kg / 1268 lbs
Bamboo: 683kg / 1505lbs
Birch: 779kg / 1717lbs
Spruce: 1010kg / 2227lbs
Pine: 2030kg / 4475lbs
should have included thickness as well
I'm surprised you didn't include plywood.
I'd like to see plywood as well, along with OSB. OSB should have a strength somewhere between plywood and that particle board they tested.
Me too!
Baltic birch plywood, please!!!
@@RipleySawzen I hate osb I think it's completely shit, may as well be the IKEA board
@@superlazy3355 Shit OSB is shit, good OSB is better than MDF by A country mile.
"I think we didn't learn anything today" :D :D
Middle part didn't do shit!
Sara Llewellyn actually the middle did quite a bit. It changed the modulus of elasticity for that part making it stiffer and stronger. Material science is awesome.
That part had me laughing pretty hard.
@@85krink yeah, was quoting the guy..cracked me up
learn more here than public school in america lol
That real wood stuff was pretty strong, someone should start making houses out of it and become rich. :O
Your comment indicates that you think that stuff just grows on trees and is cheap and easy to come by. Smh
DAMN IT! I wish I would have thought of this!
People already build houses out of real wood though? But it doesn't really matter since most Western building techniques do not follow the grain of the wood type of ideal. A proper built wooden house builds according the wooden grain, so it is strong in upright pressure, but flexible in the side pressure. AKA, how the chinese and japanese tall wooden buildings that are over 300 years are built.
@@Helveteshit that was a joke
Except it’s still weaker than concrete.
Ikea tables are basically made out of a deck of cards glued together.
It's basically garbage. But it still can work ok if you don't put 500 kg on the table.
They would probably be stronger if they were, as the laminations would add tensile strength due to their tendency to align fibers in a plane parallel to boards manufactured that way.
And we've all seen what Lauri can do with decks of cards. 💥
more like if you put a deck of cards through a paper shredder and then glued the pieces back into a board
I got a 50mm desktop from Ikea and cut it open, it was thin veneer top and bottom with a cardboard honeycomb inside.
Hopefully nobody cries about strength of MDF. It was amazingly good strength for that material. If its made properly with proper materials your table would cost 1500 euros instead 50-100 euros.
Thank you for the pound conversion. Sorry, but my schools growing up in the U.S. only took one day around my 5th grade year to explain metric, and that was back in 1975!
Why bothering to explain the most important system ? 😂😂😂
You don't need a hydraulic press, anything from ikea crumbles just fine on its own!!
No need to disassemble, just drop it.
We have all furnitune our house made by real wood as like whole house is.
Love you Chanel
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A little later:
*calls Ikea*
HPC: Hey I think there's one board missing in my kit
It was in the package like that.
IKEA furniture sucks ass
So i cant put my 200kg ...um ... lead collection on my IKEA shelf? Dammit.
Like we going to break it lol
The lord Flasheart can do as he damn well pleases.
Yeah, best you take the small 42 cm wide Kallax shelf floor to ceiling and put 200 kg of lead on every shelfboard. Put 4,9 or 16 of theses shelves and place them in the center of your biggest room. Much fun if you don't try it on ground level of bungalow without basement.
Divide that by 10, constant strain is very different thing and your shelve is going to collapse like my friends tv-counter from ikea that couldnt handle the weight of dvd-player and ps3 same time.
Hi, What is that black cable attached to the piston? Is it a sensor to measure the force? how is it called this sensor ?
Great video! These are valuable tests.
Especially the velociraptor. Who knew they could be crushed so thoroughly!
@Pedro Martins João True. And besides of that, the IKEA board was 12 mm, the MDF and wood 18 mm thick, so the test prove nothing
@Pedro Martins João agree! Its fun to watch, but it isn't a proper compare of materials.
Try strand woven bamboo
Have to say the Finnish English accent is extraordinary 😂
The bamboo, not bad
The fact that the spruce made it to a metric ton was impressive
Not a complete surprise, as spruce wood is well known for its high strength-to-weight ration. It's why it was used to build aircraft.
@@__The_Real_V__ Howard Hughes was a interesting guy.
@@__The_Real_V__Factoid: the Spruce Goose was mostly constructed from Birch.
@@davidbarts6144 I would choose birch more like than spurce, birch is relatively light and much more flexible than spurce shit. I am working in furniture factory and spurce is cheapest shit which you can buy if you want real wood.
I was slightly disappointed by the Paulownia.
I know it is relatively strong if compared in strength/weight ratio, but maybe as it happens with wood, it is just stronger in other dimensions, like compression etc.
No Oak wood? That would be strong.
It could be better if you summarize and compare the results at the end of the video
no, or else everyone will skip the content and jump to the summary
This isn’t a science channel-its entertainment
Great video - shame no plywood just because it is something that lots of us use.
My parents have solid oak furniture that costed a fortune. Now 30 years later it looks old fashioned as hell off course but it’s still like new. You can either buy cheap furniture that doesn’t last all that long so you can refresh your interior once in a while or you buy expensive and decent stuff that you have to look at for the rest of your life.
I have my grandparents 100+ year old oak barrister bookcase. Still in beautiful condition, but yes, it looks old fashioned because of the beautiful figure of the rift cut/quarter cut lumber that it was made of. Much more attractive than the dull slab cut oak you see today.
I’d love to have some solid, old furniture like y’all have.
Give your boring solid oak furniture to me if you don't want it. You can get my IKEA chipboard furniture in return.
@@Paddan1000 Good thing about ikea desk board is if you slam it you'r hand wont get hurt.
hey Alex \ Linnmon is better then LAGKAPTEN / ALEX??
“Basically the cornerstone of ikea product line.” Hahaha
And most other furniture brands.... even those in the high end stores😂😂
I have so many times seen people complaining about ikea beeing low quality cheap shit and they only buy high end stuff that costs 4 times as much as the most expensive ikea things... what they don’t know is that what they pay 4 times more for is basiclly the same thing... and a similar design aswell... why waste your money on such shit🤷♂️ just go to ikea and get the same thing cheaper
I would not get the final reading once the piece is completely destroyed, but as soon as a crack forms. Like, Spruce broke at 888 kg, not 1010 kg
I'd like to see many more of these strengh tests, but please label everything and make a chart comparison. Thanks....love your sense of humor and super strong accent.
So MDF and glued wood are about the same
no oak or plywood? it'd also be interesting to see what it takes to break standard lumber like 2x4, 2x6, etc
Yes. That would be interesting to see. I'd like to see how much stronger a 2x is on edge vs laying flat.
oak isnt common in finland since it barely grows here. the channel being finnish it makes much more sense to test spruce which is very common
@@glowner7878 Spruce is similar to Oak in strength If I remember correctly.
@@nathantaylor4217
I think they are similar in tensile strength, which is what determines the result in the test shown in the video. Oak does however have much higher compressive strength, I think.
Also, Oak handles weather much better then spruce, and takes absolute ages to rot. Like, there is a huge (huge!) dead oak near were I live. It died from a lightning strike when I was a toddler, and it is still almost unaffected by rot, 30 years later!
Wow, pine is incredible!
Me, a woodworker: “yes, wood strong” 😂
Me, a student at Scania (Swedish truck and buss manufacturer) wondering how strong the quite basic steel we train milling in would be... 🤔
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But what about Ikea "paper" board?
I think it's cheaper than this Ikea melamine board.
That's hard to test, the meter would just show 0 until destruction.
It can't support a stack of clothes, so I doubt it'd go over the 10kg mark
I think it'd break if anyone coughed near it while they were setting up
You should test the wood standing up vertically as well.
You should have cut them all to the same size because the pressure is going to be dispersed differently
You can't really cut most IKEA stuff. It loses its structural integrity.
Rylan Storm other materials should have been cut to IKEA’s size in that case
You can do the math to know what the result would've been.
The stress is a proportional to the force (weight) times the depth times the thickness squared. I.e. S ∝ F * d * t^2.
If we ignore difference in depth and only consider thickness, we can get the following going from 12mm to 18mm:
F(t=18) = F(t=12) * (18^2)/(12^2).
As F(t=12) was 186kg, F(t=18) should be 418kg
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You should do plywood
This video is proof that TH-cam can make you watch anything.
Would of loved to of seen some boards layed across vertically ( on its side ) then getting pressed ( squashed ) I feel they would of Ben much stronger, would make for interesting results
"...we didn't learn anything today..." lol 👍 love it.
superchargerone actually we learned about wood products strength 👍✌️
This whole channel, and all of its videos, and the comments.... are high as balls. There is no way. Get stoned, watch this shit, and tell me that the rest of the world isn't also stoned out of their mind too.
I liked the slowed down cracking sounds! Do an oak board next! :D I want to see how strong that shit is
Oak is really hard so it would be more explosive then the outher woods they used but I would like to see it too
oak can store some serious energy not only do feel it would take at least 4000kg to break it the board would explode sending pieces of wood everywhere and potentially hurting the people testing
@@ricma9710 seriously? I think he can afford a $20 board of oak
@@lordorion5776 They often crush dangerous stuff, so they have a protective screen they stand behind for most of these.
I wondered about oak. I think it is supposed to be much stronger than soft woods like pine. It is also more rot resistant and it is much stronger with loading across the grain than softwoods. But is this true? Probably or people wouldn't say it so often, but people say lots of stuff that isn't true. I'd like to see a test.
What about marine grade plywood?
But not a real piece of Birch... Laminated doesn't count!
But not a real birch board, that's cruel.
When the birch "failed" I was like: huh, who knew that birch breaks along neat little dovetails?
Cool I was interested to see plywood tho
Should have done some kind of oak
Plus maple, and perhaps teak, chestnut, etc. Please.
The board made out of smaller boards had oak in it
I smell a follow-up video coming.
Yeah and teak and mahogany!
AIRDRAC i think they mix off cuts to make boards
I bought a board such as this and after 4 years, the distance between the pieces increased to 1mm, clearly visible, still holding strong, but I’m sure that the board lost some of
It’s strength
the wood would break much more easily with the grain at 90 degrees from the direction in the test.
a different types of wood would be interesting - oak v ash v softwood etc.
The slow-mo cracking noises sound like my back and knee joints when I get out of bed in the morning. 😨
Woah
I'm not a doctor but if you are ≤30 years then have proper vitamins, minerals, calcium, etc.
*Refer a Doctor.👨⚕*
Try olive wood, that stuff is incredibly hard, more than oak and they say that even ebony. Got lots of saws with a 750watt milwaukee jigsaw just to work out a small table for a sink.
my ikea desk broke under the weight of my keyboard,
My Ikea Desk broke under the weight of one bacteria.
@@TheElvisnator I broke trying to figure out the building manual and which screw was missing...
Mine broke from the weight of a proton
My ikea desk broke from the gravitational pull of my ceiling
My IKEA desk broke under the weight of this speck of dust that landed on it
Why did you use cross-laminated bamboo board, that's unfair. With unidirectional grain, the load bearing streng of bamboo can be much larger
Who the hell puts 2200lbs on their desk.
someone who owns vintage radio gear
MDF is just sawdust mixed with glue...it has no inherent structural strength. Wood is made up of long fibers held together with a natural "adhesive" called lignin. It's these fibers that give real wood its ability to span distances and support loads and this is why we build structures out of real wood and not MDF. Real wood also doesn't "fatigue" like other materials such as metal...you can flex it back and forth forever and it'll never weaken at the flex point and break like metal will. You actually need to sever those fibers to get real wood to fail.
It would be interesting to see you do another video using just man-made wood mateials...MDF, MDO, OSB, "regular" construction grade plywood, and what we in the US refer to as Baltic or Finnish birch plywood...the best plywood you can buy and has many more layers per cm/inch than regular plywood.
Your first sentence made my heart cry since I am a wood engineer. It's not sawdust... The wood is first chipped in about 2cm big pieces. Then it's cooked under pressure. After, the wood fibres are mechanically separated. At the end, you have single wood fibres, which get mixed with glue and pressed to a MDF board. That's why it's pretty strong. Would it be sawdust, it wouldn't hold even 100 kg
You should know the difference between Particle Board and MDF: Medium Density FIBER board.
@@OHeinYuGi Point taken, but it's still a product made essentially out of waste material. It definitely has its uses (I use it for making shop jigs) but as furniture it's not the best choice if strength is needed.
@@chrisfreemesser5707 sorry, but MDF uses some of the best raw material - not possible to use waste material here, because the fibres are then already broken and shorter! Particleboard can also be made out of waste material :)
You probably mix up MDF Medium Density Fiberboard and PB Particleboard...
Would've been interesting to see how different thicknesses of chipboard/particleboard handled the hydraulic press
The Cracking in Slowmotion sounds so great 😱
volvov70. hh it’s like ASMR for manly men.
It's like M rated popcorn
Sounds like a war zone haha
It's all fake iirc.
You should heat what a 6 foot diameter tree with a thick hinge sounds like!
Deafening noise!!
What table top was the ikea one
That's why they used Pine/spruce wood in the mines! it warns you before collapsing, exactly like it did in the video
What about canaries then
@@eskay1891 canaries are for gas pockets i think.
Add a single drop of water to that mdf board tho.
Come on now, velociraptors are supposed to have feathers. We demand scientific accuracy in our extra content.
Just wait a few years and then they're probably not supposed to have feathers anymore, maybe then they're supposed to have mohawks and earrings.
@@alexanderthomas2660 Earrings are so Triassic; by the Cretaceous they were out of fashion already.
well i have rage quitted once and destroyed my desk. Then i found out it was made from cardboard glued together
This is a good lesson on how it's the tension forces in the bottom half of the beam that cause it to break, cause you could see with the bamboo the top half of the beam that was under compression was fine.
Ikea furniture is so horrible for health. They treat the wood with some chemicals when manufacturing it and it smells for months after you install it in your home, maybe even for a year. I believe these odors are toxic, I didn't feel so well for a while after having 2 pieces of furniture in my room.
Interesting...
Very Interesting...
Finally I could see one man Laughing after proving his wife wrong.. 😉😉
Dude .. You are a lucky Man 👍💪💪😁
Were any of these solid oak?
Can't understand his accent... Also pls mention the types of woods you are testing... Don't have any idea what I'm watching
We did indeed learn something. You get what you pay for!
10:45 best part
Hi ! Realy nice video! I suggest you two things for your next bending experiment:
- use a 4points bending test instead of a 3points bending test. This way you will differentiate failure from pure bending and failure from shear.
- weigh the pieces, as the common indicator for structural efficiency is the strength/weight ratio
Keep up the good and funny work!
Holy crap he was speaking English
I'd like to see more stronger woods like oak and ash being tested, maybe some mahogany and other exotic woods. Thanks for the video!
Very, very interesting test/idea. Fascinating. Thanks
I would be interested to see a solid piece of oak for comparison.
Also, it's a pity that pine was still partly composite. Interesting, how much could it take if it was a single piece.
How is comparing 12mm thick ikea board to 18mm thick for most other materials a fair comparison?
Try wooden beams they used to make farms and houses with? vs regular metal H beams?
H beams and I beams are both used to carry heavy loads
So, how many toy collectors?
You need solid timber not finger joined.
It will just crack where the finger joints are located
you don't say :-)
Ikea desks are fragile as fuck, but if you just use it as like a gaming setup with nothing crazy on it, couple monitors, a keyboard, headset, a pc, you should be fine.
I thought the furniture is the wooden block. I'm so dumb wtf
I was like what if the wood underneath breaks, then the rest is ruined.
They used the 4×2 board to spread the load evenly
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@@DrFade-ji5ol Thankyou hahahaha
Can’t beat the real thing.
Question is if you really need a board that can hold more than 170kg
The Last European yes
for you
yes, because in american parties, americans like to break tables with their backs.
@@dehydratedorphans ??
Sex on table? Yes.
@ why are you guys talking about tables, it's a hanging cupboard style piece
very good test im a carpenter by trade and wood like to see some other species off woods used like oak and douglas fir the monster at the end should have been a wood pecker or beaver
"Drago averages 1250lbs. Whatever he hits, he destroys."
Except 7mm wood.
The amount a board will bend is proportional the third power of the thickness so the fact that the Ikea board was only two thirds as thick invalidates this test
Could you make a video that tests how much pull force it would take to pull lag bolts and screws out of wood?
Dtdfd Fthdht I would suggest to send that request to project farm’s channel.
Another Recommendation for Project farm from me! Great content!
Hi mate if you tested MDF then whertf is Plyboard and OSB board. Lol what kinda foreign test is this.
Philosoraptor continues to live after escaping the wrath of the hydraulic press.
So ikaris broke it just like that. Hmm.
Thank you so much for the pounds conversions, and also you should do this again but add plywood, like an oak plank, and partical board again
Hi, can you test Ikea Kallax i best way 4x2? :-D Many people (like me) have aquarium on this cheap cabinet. And I am interested how load capacity it has. Thank you :-)
The finger joint on the birch failed, otherwise it would have beat spruce.
Spruce vs pine vs birch vs poplar vs maple vs oak vs ipe
And even that is saying something. The fact that the finger jointed were strong enough to hold up to as much as they did really shows how impressive that wood is!
probably it is a good idea to put a summary of your results in the end
board at 4:41 you notice the WOOD did not fail. the join between shorter segments is what failed.
But if you wanted to see strength, try a good marine Plywood
@@deckstore Correct. Which process increases the density by a bit, and the tensile strength (which is what is being tested) by more than 40%
Yes they already said that in the video
Should've added overlay text of what is being tested.
Some ideas for future "wood strength tests"
11 ply baltic birch, preferably triaxially glued, get boards that don't have a lot of "inclusions" (bits where they punched out the knots in the wood and replaced the holes with new bits of ply)
Fiberglass reinforced particle board / plywood (ea; the same as above, but with a fiberglass matt epoxied and vacuumformed around it)
Carbon fiber, with or without foam core
Now for the interesting bits; Do the tests again, but glue up the plywood layers /carbon fiber / fiberglass yourself, and introduce a bend along the long ends (ea; make the plank into a skateboard deck by bending the sides up a bit, add raised ends to taste for +10 kickflip ability)
I can almost guarantee a 400% increase in strength along the long ends.
Hello, where did you get the real wood spruce from please it is perfect for what I need for a project.
The board made out of smaller boards should not have broken at the glue lines! Someone at the factory must be selling glue on the side. I've always been taught that a proper glue joint is stronger than the wood around it - the wood will fail and the joint will not.
Wooden boards are made out of carbon fiber (CF) (as grown by Mother Nature) - they sound just like your CF ISO trusses as they're starting to fail, snap-snap-snap.
Feathers or not, Anni's sculpting skills are very impressive!
Will be awesome if you could provide a summary table for comparison. Interesting Thanks for the experiment
They're all man made, look at the joins. I'd rather see the strength of a single piece of timber
Woman made
Would be nice to know the names of the different table tops and a comparison chart at the end.
These X-shaped stands was made in USSR. Where did you get them?
ГОСТ 5641-66 Призмы поверочные и разметочные pdf.standartgost.ru/catalog/Data2/1/4293784/4293784320.pdf
Lot's of soviet stuff was imported to Finland over the years when it was still around and even after it fell.