Oh God. You're telling me the DLC is a step up from this super cheap boss that heals even when you block her? Man, I dunno if I even want it anymore. Having everything just kill you in two hits regardless of your build is just unacceptable to me.
@@psycholuigimanThe 2nd phase of the final dlc boss is insane. Every attack basically has a massive energy wave or aoe blast attached to the end of it. And if you get grabbed twice its an automatic death regardless of how much health you have.
@@psycholuigiman i always do my first play through with summons to take the edge off of some of the difficulty initially. No shame in using them, regardless of what the gatekeepers on reddit say.
@@FilianFanVideos You’re fighting her with way too much defense, it’s no fun when you can tank waterfowl dance;)) Ideally, she should be fought with the difficulty that she can kill you in two to three hits. That’s when it really starts getting funnnnnnnn. I spent three hours beating her in my first play through with only a shield talisman and no armor (only dodge/katana), it’s a totally different fight, and you actually have to learn how to dodge the waterfowl dance.
Deadass it isn’t. If you get hit by any of the individual 3 waterfowl barrages, you can still dodge the next 2 barrages. Meanwhile Rellana’s double moons will guaranteed kill you if the first one hits you. (Assuming you don’t have 80 vigor, the bull goat armor set, and all mitigation talismans at once. That MIGHT let you survive). And let’s not even get into Radahn’s upward slash. Or his light beam roll catches. Or his lightspeed meteor. Or his meteors + clone slashes. Or his arena wide explosions. Or his seemingly never-ending combos.
@Zeke1460 for real. And to be honest, for as much shit as people give Waterfowl, it's only that first flurry that you need to watch out for. You can dodge through the second one, Malenia tends to miss the third on her own, and she's stationary for the fourth. Not saying it won't take some practice to dodge, but it _is_ a remarkably fair attack compared to stuff you see in the DLC.
@@Zeke1460Honestly Radahn wasn't that bad, you want to get hit by the after image because they deal pitiful damage compared to the real one, the huge AoE is definitely BS, you need to run/roll as soon as he starts it otherwise your F-ed. The combos are pretty BS, but most of them don't "roll catch" you, usually only the last hit and the light beams from it. His comet is kinda lame, it always aims for the middle of the arena. Rellana feels a lot more aggressive compared to him, he has way more down time for you to heal and/or punish. On the topic of Radahn, it's kinda funny that his DLC armor is a straight downgrade from his base game armor in terms of stats
Kinda curious how much vigor you need to survive her grab attack. I just watched a video of someone on new game +7 and the grab one shot him with 99 vigor.
@XFlamingSparkX I think it's always a oneshot. But then again in new game +7 things hurt so much more. I started my first dlc run on ng +6 and that was a mistake
@@gabrielcabral6142 I believe anyone who learns & tries a bit will be able to dodge most of the hits in most of the cases. being able to perfectly dodge it is a whole another level of skills. but dodging 2 outta 3 flurries is comparatively easy if u seen how to dodge the move.
She tends to do them based on either timings or damage received. Speaking from experience you can more or less predict when you're due one and it will often carry over into phase 2.
@@FantomMisfit Waterfowl is actually a counter measure to ranged builds. if you spam ranged attacks she'll spam waterfowl. So if you play up close she's wayyyyy less likely to do it.
if you watch melania was extremely passive during her last fight not using her triple stash at all when normally she can't seem to spam that sh!t enough. Sure the triple slash does decent damage but it also serves the purpose of poking your making your think about healing while getting comboed and if you heal at the wrong time you get punished, this is completely lacking from her last run. The hardest part about Melania phase two is sure she has 3 instant kills but it also the stamina management having to both dodge her infinite flurry of attacks gets some attacks in of your own and still have to stamina to dodge. In her last fight that wasn't an issue at all because melania just was not being aggressive at all.
I feel almost guilty fighting her. That feeling fades _real_ fast after she feeds me my own elbows a couple of times, but there's a feeling like she didn't deserve to be brought so low that _we,_ a lowly Tarnished, could best her.
"What if i beat Malenia too fast chat?" that's somehow the most Filian thing i've ever heard come out of her mouth in all seriousness, good on her for sticking it out to the end. if my math is right it only took her about 26 tries, that's pretty damn good for Malenia
@@mangalink25i dunno for me if you know waterfowl and dont greed you're safe playing the long game, the move that kept catching me off guard were the shadow clones
if you watch melania was extremely passive during her last fight not using her triple stash at all when normally she can't seem to spam that sh!t enough. Sure the triple slash does decent damage but it also serves the purpose of poking your making your think about healing while getting comboed and if you heal at the wrong time you get punished, this is completely lacking from her last run. The hardest part about Melania phase two is sure she has 3 instant kills but it also the stamina management having to both dodge her infinite flurry of attacks gets some attacks in of your own and still have to stamina to dodge. In her last fight that wasn't an issue at all because melania just was not being aggressive at all.
Wait. Am I just running a really bad build vs her? That flower attack takes away about half my health in one hit, despite 60 vig. Is scaled armor just bad vs Malenia?!
Scaled armor is great until mid game, you have better options by now But also the flower is just really strong Here’s the tip: when she starts doing the flower run straight at her, when you get underneath her do some circling around, she will miss you 100% of the time
Tbf she (as far as I can tell) never got hit directly by the flower attack most of the damage she took to it was chip damage from being too close or getting too close before the attack was completed
Imagine there's just a summon sign outside her boss room and it summons you-know-who. Unlikely, as he said he'd stop helping the community with Malenia for the mean time and he wants to mess around with the DLC
Bro going into wing stance and comboing the light into heavy is so cool to use against Malenia. Even with dlc weapons and spells she's still the same as ever but her first phase is a hell of a lot easier now. Vykes dragon bolt really helps with staggering and poise breaking her.
You can actually block all the waterfowl dance with a shield have 100% physical damage or you can use vow of indomitable to block it and she won't restore health from you In phase 2 you will need to use scarlet rot balls
Personally, me and me beat melania easily, I heard melania was a hard boss, so when I fought her and won easily I wondered why people said she was difficult, so this is my first time watching someone fight her, and I never got thrown in the air or any hard attack, so I see the difficulty now. (I was also on ng+2)
Good job Filian. I do admit watching you fail for 6 minutes left me worried but that was actually lot better toward the end....Good job, you gor grit...but your not John Wayne. Lol
"What if I beat her too fast" was never a thought I had, but then I did it. Took me four tries. Mimic tear and double slash keen nagakiba with golden vow, flame and bloodflame blade 😂 Just dodge most attacks and get those L2s in and she goes down waaaay too quick. Helps that she basically has 0 poise. Now I can't wait to play through NG+ after the DLC so I can fight her with something that doesn't feel like cheese. I want the proper Melania experience!
@slavikpodufalov I guess we'll see Edit: I won but ok he's harder than Melania but I'd still fight him over her any day. He's actually a fair fight she's RNG bs
@slavikpodufalov So update I did get fucked...repeatedly but did you really think I would be done in by bro and the barbie boy??!! In all seriousness I'll concede that they're harder than Melania Although they're actually a fair hard whereas Melania's is more rng bs.
Here is some help, Filian (disable your announcements) because they are killing you... fr. The fans don't want you to win... the timing is always wrong. Put respect on the (1st) toughest female boss. Even players who win have respect.
thats... wow I have 500+ attempts across multiple playthroughs but never have I beaten her alone, she just keeps making up new shit and breaking basic game rules
I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble lol, she is one of the easiest bosses in the game, easy to read attacks first phase and only one attack that has the lowest roll to actually happen that can hurt you. People who still think this game is hard just have very smooth brains. :p Sorry, I know not everyone is actually good at games but it is funny when I see people say She is a hard boss.
She's level 132. You can see it in the top right corner at 7:18. This is not considered overleveled - it's quite an average level for late-game stage, in fact. She's just got gud. You should try it sometimes, too.
@@zerokills345 People say 120+ is appropriate for this bossfight (I rly think even that is a bit high...maybe around +100 to 120 is for people who've played souls game before) of course there is no upper limit with these suggestions
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god damn those 1st 2 attempts were pretty solid. DLC is a step up, but lookin ready for it.
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Oh God. You're telling me the DLC is a step up from this super cheap boss that heals even when you block her? Man, I dunno if I even want it anymore. Having everything just kill you in two hits regardless of your build is just unacceptable to me.
@@psycholuigimanThe 2nd phase of the final dlc boss is insane. Every attack basically has a massive energy wave or aoe blast attached to the end of it. And if you get grabbed twice its an automatic death regardless of how much health you have.
@@psycholuigiman i always do my first play through with summons to take the edge off of some of the difficulty initially. No shame in using them, regardless of what the gatekeepers on reddit say.
@@FilianFanVideos You’re fighting her with way too much defense, it’s no fun when you can tank waterfowl dance;)) Ideally, she should be fought with the difficulty that she can kill you in two to three hits. That’s when it really starts getting funnnnnnnn. I spent three hours beating her in my first play through with only a shield talisman and no armor (only dodge/katana), it’s a totally different fight, and you actually have to learn how to dodge the waterfowl dance.
I love how she reflexively yells “MODS” as a defense mechanism……like they’re going to ban her
the weakness of being a Twitch streamer, thinking every problem can be solved by banning
And after the DLC: "You know, maybe _Waterfowl_ isn't so bad after all."
Deadass it isn’t. If you get hit by any of the individual 3 waterfowl barrages, you can still dodge the next 2 barrages.
Meanwhile Rellana’s double moons will guaranteed kill you if the first one hits you. (Assuming you don’t have 80 vigor, the bull goat armor set, and all mitigation talismans at once. That MIGHT let you survive).
And let’s not even get into Radahn’s upward slash. Or his light beam roll catches. Or his lightspeed meteor. Or his meteors + clone slashes. Or his arena wide explosions. Or his seemingly never-ending combos.
Looks at final boss when reading this. Even if is a 2 corpse now in my eyes... Yeah... I agree with this comment
@Zeke1460 for real. And to be honest, for as much shit as people give Waterfowl, it's only that first flurry that you need to watch out for. You can dodge through the second one, Malenia tends to miss the third on her own, and she's stationary for the fourth.
Not saying it won't take some practice to dodge, but it _is_ a remarkably fair attack compared to stuff you see in the DLC.
@@Zeke1460Honestly Radahn wasn't that bad, you want to get hit by the after image because they deal pitiful damage compared to the real one, the huge AoE is definitely BS, you need to run/roll as soon as he starts it otherwise your F-ed.
The combos are pretty BS, but most of them don't "roll catch" you, usually only the last hit and the light beams from it.
His comet is kinda lame, it always aims for the middle of the arena.
Rellana feels a lot more aggressive compared to him, he has way more down time for you to heal and/or punish.
On the topic of Radahn, it's kinda funny that his DLC armor is a straight downgrade from his base game armor in terms of stats
Noop it’s still bad!
Just because the dlc adds even worse bosses doesn’t mean trash gets a pass
My favorite thing about this stream was everyone at some point was spamming
"I am malenia blade of miquella"
She survived 2 waterfowls in her first attempt just to get snatched. Dang rip
Kinda curious how much vigor you need to survive her grab attack. I just watched a video of someone on new game +7 and the grab one shot him with 99 vigor.
@XFlamingSparkX I think it's always a oneshot. But then again in new game +7 things hurt so much more. I started my first dlc run on ng +6 and that was a mistake
@@XFlamingSparkX every NG boosts atk and hp of all mobs, so it's normal. Without NG you can survive her grab with 40-50 vigor and good armour.
@@XFlamingSparkX mostly depends on the armor a buddy of mine survived with like 10% on new game 2
@mstith15 yeah my friend tried to do the dlc on ng+ 5 and was just getting molly whopped by everything lol
She survived TWO waterfowl dances on attempt 1? Daaaaaamn
She levelled vigor, that's for sure. Being able to take 3-4 hits makes it a lot easier than only being able to take 1 or 2
it's obvious she watched this fight before and understands the move. I mean it's a 2yr old boss so that is fair.
@@roxas4587 Tbh, even if you know its coming its not easy to dodge. I'm sure even to this day there are people who never dodge this move.
@@gabrielcabral6142 I believe anyone who learns & tries a bit will be able to dodge most of the hits in most of the cases. being able to perfectly dodge it is a whole another level of skills. but dodging 2 outta 3 flurries is comparatively easy if u seen how to dodge the move.
Going straight into Waterfowl in Phase 2 is just straight foul.
She tends to do them based on either timings or damage received. Speaking from experience you can more or less predict when you're due one and it will often carry over into phase 2.
There was so much emotion behind that "Lets go"
My soldiers do not buckle or yield when faced with the cruelty of this world! My soldiers push forward! My soldiers scream out! My soldiers RAAAAAGE!
@@Drewer Oh nae, cring
let us not forget, filian is actually pretty good at souls-like games.
She shockingly is. ...Then there's me who nearly ate half my controller trying to fight Artorias.
Malenia seemed so tamed o.O
Its actually just complete RNG how often she uses waterfowl. The only requirement for it is that she's below 70% health.
@@FantomMisfit Waterfowl is actually a counter measure to ranged builds. if you spam ranged attacks she'll spam waterfowl. So if you play up close she's wayyyyy less likely to do it.
if you watch melania was extremely passive during her last fight not using her triple stash at all when normally she can't seem to spam that sh!t enough. Sure the triple slash does decent damage but it also serves the purpose of poking your making your think about healing while getting comboed and if you heal at the wrong time you get punished, this is completely lacking from her last run. The hardest part about Melania phase two is sure she has 3 instant kills but it also the stamina management having to both dodge her infinite flurry of attacks gets some attacks in of your own and still have to stamina to dodge. In her last fight that wasn't an issue at all because melania just was not being aggressive at all.
@@xlegacyzero8878 legit have only played Melee against her
@@xlegacyzero8878 Yeah melania is very rng due to waterfowl and her aggressiveness being random
she did well
dodged lots of the attacks
It's even crazier when you realize she's missing an arm a leg and is blind.
Damn scarlet rot is a bitch
I feel almost guilty fighting her. That feeling fades _real_ fast after she feeds me my own elbows a couple of times, but there's a feeling like she didn't deserve to be brought so low that _we,_ a lowly Tarnished, could best her.
"What if i beat Malenia too fast chat?"
that's somehow the most Filian thing i've ever heard come out of her mouth
in all seriousness, good on her for sticking it out to the end. if my math is right it only took her about 26 tries, that's pretty damn good for Malenia
8:42
“MODS!!!”
My sister in Christ, you’re the one playing the game. How can they help you?!
🤣
it's her battle cry
She actually beat Melania how in God's name
With the power of turbo virgin Filian has the ability to do anything but get laid
Malenia
Not doing waterfowl in the second phase at all helped a bunch.
@@mangalink25i dunno for me if you know waterfowl and dont greed you're safe playing the long game, the move that kept catching me off guard were the shadow clones
if you watch melania was extremely passive during her last fight not using her triple stash at all when normally she can't seem to spam that sh!t enough. Sure the triple slash does decent damage but it also serves the purpose of poking your making your think about healing while getting comboed and if you heal at the wrong time you get punished, this is completely lacking from her last run. The hardest part about Melania phase two is sure she has 3 instant kills but it also the stamina management having to both dodge her infinite flurry of attacks gets some attacks in of your own and still have to stamina to dodge. In her last fight that wasn't an issue at all because melania just was not being aggressive at all.
The fact that she’s panic rolling in the right direction to avoid most of Waterfowl. I can’t decide if that impressive or baffling lol
I saw someone say Bloodhound Fang is a streamer magnet the other day and ever since then that’s all I see streamers use 😂
At least she didn't spam weapon art, just a nice curved sword.
good job, only 26 attempts, I'm a souls vet and she took me 53 tries, I was a bit on the slower side for movement and attacking, but big props to you
Nah, I'd rot
It was generous to put a -bonfire- site of grace near her. They knew it’d be super hard so they didn’t make the player run all the way back.
Like 95% of the bosses in the game have either grace or a stake less than 60 seconds from them, it's not just her.
@@Astraeus.. Shouldve been there in the DS1-DS2 days where you'd have to rerun half the level to get another attempt
6:10 She's the Nine Tails Jinchuriki
Didn't know she played Elden Ring. Sweet.
"I am Filian, Philipino of frank and I have only known defeat" 😂
14:20
She no looked Malenia's explosion 😎
“What if I beat her too fast?”
PFFFFFFFT
Said beat her in 26 attempts, so yeah was that long.
@@crimsondragon627 actually not that bad, pretty good honestly.
@@smmk88 Yeah, think her over all time for pre DLC was 11 something hrs of game time from the clips comp i watched.
Filian + Gino collab where Gino coaches Filian on how to get good at Malenia lmao
I AM SO FUCKING IMPRESSED
TFW you're so good, it took me 24 actual in-game hours over the course of 2 weeks to beat her !
Ah yes the Joestar strategy: “RUN AWAY”
Damn this is actually impressive!
im in awe cause i believe thst was faster then Afros attempts
7:51 this is wild LMAO
I feel your pain. Malenia will always haunt us.
Aint no way she referenced madoka magica,
The malenia boss fight is a dance of blood, rot, and metal
Wtf that was the best first try I seen
FR, serious skills. Some impressive dodging and paying attention to the attacks.
Wait. Am I just running a really bad build vs her? That flower attack takes away about half my health in one hit, despite 60 vig. Is scaled armor just bad vs Malenia?!
Dragoncrest Greatshield is a S tier talisman
Scaled armor is great until mid game, you have better options by now
But also the flower is just really strong
Here’s the tip: when she starts doing the flower run straight at her, when you get underneath her do some circling around, she will miss you 100% of the time
Tbf she (as far as I can tell) never got hit directly by the flower attack most of the damage she took to it was chip damage from being too close or getting too close before the attack was completed
btw the flowers is easy dogeable, just don’t lock on and walk to the side, she completely looses you
Fillian actually had a lot of good attempts
When your ADHD friend locks in and becomes amazing.
(This won’t happen again for 6 months)
Filian used the bloodhound fang gang hell yeah 🎉
Should had used the 'Nihil' spear,Filian
OMG I FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING COMMON WITH FILLIANNNN. WE BOTH HAVE THE SAME FAVORITE COLOUR.
Imagine there's just a summon sign outside her boss room and it summons you-know-who. Unlikely, as he said he'd stop helping the community with Malenia for the mean time and he wants to mess around with the DLC
Bro going into wing stance and comboing the light into heavy is so cool to use against Malenia. Even with dlc weapons and spells she's still the same as ever but her first phase is a hell of a lot easier now. Vykes dragon bolt really helps with staggering and poise breaking her.
She honestly did a lot better on the first attempt than most people do
how shit she mopped the floor with her, it took me like 50 tries at least ( AND WHILE USING THE MIMIC AT THAT)
Of all things...who would have expected Filian to be good at Souls?
maleina hands rated E for eveyone
And the letter of the day is...0:03
so points into vitality to counter waterflow
Would have been mad funny if Malenia did a waterfowl dance when she was at 1 pixel
Malenia is just the taste test
The DLC is the full corse
she’s pretty good though, most people play souls game and blindly charge in she is actually taking it step by step
You can actually block all the waterfowl dance with a shield have 100% physical damage or you can use vow of indomitable to block it and she won't restore health from you
In phase 2 you will need to use scarlet rot balls
Wow!
Good job Filian.
In only your 26th try....nice work!
I have 400 hours in the game and I still can't dodge the waterfowl dance consistently
excelent job, you indeed got gud :D
what the hell
how many heals can you have
Rykard, Mogh and all the DLC bosses are the only ones remaining
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Brother she's cracked at souls games she has beaten Malenia in 20 attempts that's insane
Amazing chest ahead
Can't say Filian is not a gamer.
Personally, me and me beat melania easily, I heard melania was a hard boss, so when I fought her and won easily I wondered why people said she was difficult, so this is my first time watching someone fight her, and I never got thrown in the air or any hard attack, so I see the difficulty now. (I was also on ng+2)
She is Malenia, Blade of Miquella
and she has never known defeat
Well played
There's no way that filian is a better gamer than me, it took me like 35 tries to defeat that bi...🤡
She are skilled asf, beat this b in least than 40 attempts
W video!
Pretty sure she would win IRL body tracking.
Then there's me who can't even beat margit at level 43 with bloodhound fang +2 and all my levels are into vigour dex and str😢
Good job Filian. I do admit watching you fail for 6 minutes left me worried but that was actually lot better toward the end....Good job, you gor grit...but your not John Wayne. Lol
She is the hardest boss for me even after the DLC
I'm down to the last 2 and I'm thinking it'll be the same for me.
"How much longer until she does the OP attack?"
Do you have ANY idea how little that narrows it down?
Has several perfect opportunities to use Bloodhound's AoW and just absolutely doesn't do it......
I sear after beating the dlc, malenia looks like a normal overworld trash mob
Oh wow, got through first phase pretty easy.
It's a pity what she makes videos only in Twitch...
"What if I beat her too fast" was never a thought I had, but then I did it. Took me four tries.
Mimic tear and double slash keen nagakiba with golden vow, flame and bloodflame blade 😂 Just dodge most attacks and get those L2s in and she goes down waaaay too quick. Helps that she basically has 0 poise.
Now I can't wait to play through NG+ after the DLC so I can fight her with something that doesn't feel like cheese. I want the proper Melania experience!
After the DLC Malenia seems so slow. She even staggers after hits. Mesmer moves like a damn grasshopper and kicks my ass non stop. I miss Malenia.
Melania is way harder than Mesmer. Mesmer's attacks are easy to dodge
Malenia's difficulty is her healing per hit. Messmer is a fast glass cannon.
Then you realize that she honestly is nearly as difficult as most dlc bosses.
Im at the last area and have yet to meet one remotely as difficult as her. I doubt the last 2 bosses will be harder either. Waterfowl is pretty busted
@@FantomMisfitprepare for the last boss, you might be fucked
@slavikpodufalov I guess we'll see Edit: I won but ok he's harder than Melania but I'd still fight him over her any day. He's actually a fair fight she's RNG bs
@slavikpodufalov So update I did get fucked...repeatedly but did you really think I would be done in by bro and the barbie boy??!! In all seriousness I'll concede that they're harder than Melania Although they're actually a fair hard whereas Melania's is more rng bs.
Wait, Filian beat Malenia... The need to un-nerf her, she's clearly too easy 😜
I defeated her like 7 time alone, in every new game + i did, its an easy fight if i use the great blade of raikard and elden beast
Girl is playing Elden Ring on a potato, it lags less on my Xbox one s
ok so 26 attempts at malenia thats not that much aint it... I'm probably gonna take way more...
Here is some help, Filian (disable your announcements) because they are killing you... fr.
The fans don't want you to win... the timing is always wrong.
Put respect on the (1st) toughest female boss. Even players who win have respect.
thats... wow I have 500+ attempts across multiple playthroughs but never have I beaten her alone, she just keeps making up new shit and breaking basic game rules
Did they nerf her? she seems slower than when I died 5060194857191 times to her
Man, Melania got NERFED
filian is a femboy, lol
I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble lol, she is one of the easiest bosses in the game, easy to read attacks first phase and only one attack that has the lowest roll to actually happen that can hurt you. People who still think this game is hard just have very smooth brains. :p Sorry, I know not everyone is actually good at games but it is funny when I see people say She is a hard boss.
She was both over leveled and I have the feeling she's watched a lot of Malenia fights on others streams.
Why are you complaining?
U jelly she beat her so fast?
What was her level?
"I have a feeling" based on what? She didn't do any of the consistent tricks to take no damage from waterfowl, so eh?
She's level 132. You can see it in the top right corner at 7:18. This is not considered overleveled - it's quite an average level for late-game stage, in fact. She's just got gud. You should try it sometimes, too.
@@zerokills345 People say 120+ is appropriate for this bossfight (I rly think even that is a bit high...maybe around +100 to 120 is for people who've played souls game before) of course there is no upper limit with these suggestions
Damn, tf happened to Malenia in the last attempt? If my Malenia fought like that in her phase 2 when I fought her I wouldn't have struggled at all wtf