@Never once done sports betting. I just think it’s immoral to promote something so addictive and life damaging to an audience that likely contains young individuals. I don’t know why you felt the need to comment something so aggressive but there’s the reply you wanted.
*We appreciate it. Gambling is foul and just not smart willingly playing a rigged game. The morality of it is wack on both sides and frick you if you defend it. There's no defense.
It's not his decision if the front office doesn't want it to be. They have the power to trade him whether he wants it or not. They need to think about the next 10 years, not just the next two. It's a business, and they should want to sell tickets. And you're not going to do that if your team is completely barren when Steph retires.
Honestly, the Warriors had 2 years to finally trade Kuminga and strike the iron why it was hot to get value out of a player that clearly does not work for the team, they massively overvalued him and failed to get a deal done. Now it is kind of too late as Kumingas value is getting lower because of his unrealistic contract expectations, he wants a max extention, but is very far away from being that kind of player.
I think you don’t get the big picture. Kuminga is 22. He will great in 2-4 seasons from now. Also his market has gone up. Guys like Franz Wagner drove his value high once he got the 200 million extension. You would be prob those guys that want Kuminga out just for him to prove you wrong on another team 2-4 seasons from now.
@ Comparing Kuminga to Wagner is quite frankly ridiculous. Kuminga has not shown anything close to Wagners level of play, we have seen Kuminga play for 4 seasons now and it is basically still the same as his first year, sure great athleticism and impressive moments, but overall he still looks like a headless chicken on the court if he does not have the ball and i am doubtful that will ever change, not sure where you take the confidence from that he will suddenly be a great player in 2-4 years. I honestly think that Franz Wagner was a better player in his first NBA game than Kuminga is now and that is not really close. Kuminga can not shoot, can not really defend and has one of the worst BBIQs of all players in the League, watching him play drives me absolutely insane, he does something absolutely ridiculous almost every min he is on the court. Kuminga is the kind of player that looks amazing in any highlight video because of his athleticism, but as soon as you watch an actual game you are absolutely not surprised that neither the coaches nor teammates trust him on the court at all. I also disagree that his value increased, i actually think it decreased a lot the last season simply because of his expectation to give him a max extention and his deal looming. He will most likely get overpaid by a bad team that has not really a choice to take a gamble that they will deeply regret.
@@javierlandaverde4108 Franz is already a top 40 player and averaging 10 more points and 4 more assists per game on higher efficiency. Comparing Kuminga to him is silly, we've seen Franz do it. Kuminga is nowhere CLOSE to a max player.
The ugly truth is, they aren't a good team and no trade is going to fix that. Steph is so phenomenal they remain relevant, but they simply are not competitive.
All I can say is, as a Spurs fan, I was very glad that Timmy and Manu never suited up for anyone else. This is all ownership's and management's fault. Lacob acted like he and Kerr had solved the NBA, they just got lucky that they hit on three or four drafts in a row. Also, at the beginning, Steph had an ankle injury and they were able to sign him to a below market value contract.
@@harveydent8714 losing every night and seeing steph upset and angry is taking years off his life. all that stress and load trying to carry the warriors. he either needs to chill out and coast his legacy or he needs to find a move away from the warriors where he can be more of a supporting piece.
Not every star needs to be in a rush to leave. I don’t believe in blind loyalty to the franchise, but being on one team with all that success is a serious feather in his cap in the modern NBA.
At some point you have to operate your NBA franchise like an NBA franchise and stop living in the past solely because you think its a cute idea for your franchise’s best ever to spend the rest of his days there on several mediocre at best teams
Yeah, but I mean with Lifers you play a different set of rules. They’ll eventually be bad enough to get another good pick, they just REALLY dropped the ball on LaMelo. Their franchise would be in a completely different place if they took him.
Fans will never be happy. If a player wants to leave, they’re disloyal. If that same player wants to stay on a bad team, he’s stat chasing and empty calories. If the franchise trades a star, they get accused of tanking. If they keep the star, they’re wasting the star’s best years. I say, at some point, they need to stop listening to fans and analysts (and players, in many cases) and run their business.
Welp he goes down as the greatest warriors player of all time. If he wants to stay and retire he’s more welcome to stay and retire. If he wants a move it’s fine. If he wants one last minute push. Warriors are patient for the right move. Not many players out there that moves the needle. 🪡 Jokic and Giannis aren’t available. Shows you how hard the market is.
Honestly the issue is that Kerr is not coaching this team well. He's trying to run an offense that depends on prime Steph and Klay, and not one that takes advantage of what he has on the roster right now. There is also the eternal Warriors issue of not having a rim protecting big. But Jimmy Butler doesn't help with that. Jimmy would be a terrible mistake. Trading Steph would be a good move if you can get something huge, but you'd also probably need something more than just picks. If Kerr took more advantage of his current roster, I do think you'd see a return to the early season Warriors that's more sustainable though.
Meh... Most of people said Kerr is a genious just 2 months ago after GSW's hot start. He's always been a genious when the team is winning and a dunce when the team is struggling. He is what he is, but most of the noise is just noise.
@@konzza the people saying that were just looking at the record at not the mirage that it was. Kuminga is a great example of Kerr failing the roster. He wants Kuminga to be Andrew Wiggins. However, Kuminga is much better going downhill as a ballhandler. Watching the Warriors you could see that they were actually starting to do that before he got injured. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go back to it.
@@konzzaKerr is the only Coach in the league with most championships. It’s not Kerr, he’s always played with elite Coaches, players and knows how to win.
@@LuckywuvsuHow?? Which teams did Mark Coach and play with that has more rings than Kerr?? You’re a casual who doesn’t know the game. Mark has zero rings. Casuals said the same thing after Mike Brown left and looked how they worked for Brown?? SAC Kings are 7-1 since Brown left. Did you know before Kerr joined GSW, her was under Pop from Spurs?? You know nothing, Jon Snow.
There might not be any next deal for Steph. He extended his contract by one year last summer and will earn 62m in 2028. The only way Warriors can get him any high note is if they magically build a contending team with draft picks until then to complement with the young guys they are having right now. This would prob need Kuminga or Podz to break the hell out and thats unrealistic.
Imma be real. I'm a big warriors fan but even bigger fan of curry as my favorite player ever. But it's either you rebuild and trade Steph or make one more big retool. Steph is a winner and want to stay and win. But I think we all want him to at the very least play out the rest of his career to make the most of it. I WANT STEPH TO STILL PLAY AND BE ENJOYING IT. Bro looks exhausted and he's been playing through injuires because he has to for this team. They are way to overreliant on Steph and Kerr needs to listen to Stackhouse and stotts because his way of coaching isn't cutting it at all.
The best thing to do for their future is trade Steph whether he wants out or not. He would still get you a ton of value in a trade. I'm talking 4-5 picks and some good young players. That would at least set them up for a rebuild. But I don't see the front office having the stomach to do that. Instead, they'll probably try to make a medium-sized trade that will squander some of their assets and not make them much better. You mentioned the possibility of Butler. But do we really think he's going to take them over the top? Imo, it would take a player closer to Giannis's level to make them a title threat again. And if a top 5 player does become available, the Warriors certainly won't have the best trade package to offer.
Team imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
the team can't put that on Steph. if they're going to trade him, the team needs to be out front of it instead of making it seems like he's asking to be traded. even if Steph does ask to be traded, the team shouldn't put that on him imo. he's done way too much for that franchise for they to put that on him
The only tough decision for the Warriors is Steve Kerr. It does not matter who is traded. Look at Steve Kerr’s history. He is fascinated with guards, a motion offense, and 3 point play. This alone is not a consistent winning combination in the NBA because it creates difficult matchups for GSW. There is no question that GSW has a talented roster. Steve Kerr has said this himself. GSW has been competitive every year until this year because Steve Kerr has been consistently playing players out of their normal positions. This is because of Steph and Draymond. When you ask Guards to play forwards, and you ask forwards to play center, you destroy the self confidence of the whole team. Every loss that GSW has lost can go back to Steve Kerr’s substitution patterns and his insistence to keep a 3 or 4 guard lineup.
I agree with you 100% - the correct basketball decision is to part ways with Steph and Draymond while they still have value. Just like with Lillard in Portland. The "Two Timelines" experiment imploded with the Wiseman pick.
Imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
@@OntarioAndrews415 are fans having a good time right now? This is what it will look like the next two years unless Podz turns into Steve Nash when he returns.
I dont think theres a trade that fixes this team because of steve kerrs refusal to stick with a lineup to get some consistency. Thats been a huge part of the problem. The gm could have made this easy by committing to a path youth vs veteran. They paid moody to play less somehow. Just terrible management.
Life just comes around. He was extremely fortunate to have landed in GS, and had some of most well rounded rosters ever built around him. Now as he goes into the last bit of his career , he’s feeling what LeBron got early in his career. Respect to Steph but this will be it until he retires
I honestly do not think Jimmy Butler raises the needle for the Warriors at this point in his career. They are going to have to look at Portland, Washington, Utah, Brooklyn, Toronto and Philadelphia to be trade partners with. I just don't see a path with Butler going to Golden State and them being a better team. I think Butler will be too much of distraction for them because of his wanting a max extension. They would do much better if they tried to get something like Jeremi Grant and Robert Williams from Portland. I don't know if that is possible or not, but I feel like they would improve the team more woth them because Grant is a good shooter and Williams is a damn good interior defender and rim protector. I don't know if there would be interest between the two teams or not. If they can wdork the financial side out or not. I just think Grant and Williams move the needle more. Plus they are both younger than Butler and that helps as well.
People hate when loyal players are traded, people hate when the franchise is loyal to the player whos done so much for them. Theres no winning with yall
No, DIFFERENT people hate those things and like the other, and also its situational. “Theres no winning with yall so fuck it” is not a franchise management strategy
What's even worse is they aren't even aware that they do it and are like that. They just regurgitate common consensus and follow what everyone else says like Sheep
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The man is being good money, he has love from within the organization, and he has already won four titles. It's just a matter of what's important to him right now. The Warriors are not in a position to really win right now, but every franchise is looking at the financial horizon with dropping ratings. This environment is forcing front offices to be more conservative. As for Kuminga, he's a great athletic player and a potential break-out star but there must be a reason why the Warriors are hedging and maybe it's not about salary.
I don’t get why legacy doesn’t matter more than salary when they already have so much saved and so much money coming from things outside of the league. It would make sense to take a massive pay cut to free space for other players. I actually don’t know a thing about sports or sports management. But this intuitively seems like a fair deal for a lebron or a curry at this stage in their careers, where a pristine legacy will earn them more money and happiness over the long haul than any salary (present or future).
Steph is not just a NBA player but an international phenomenon that are strictly tied to Warriors. That’s too much of loss for business standpoint. Also, only couple of rebuilding teams are now contenders and it took them more than 5 years until they get there.
I think Steph should ask for a trade. He's played and won enough for the Warriors to establish his legacy there. He doesn't need to be a Warrior for life
This might sound harsh, but Steph made this bed. People often complain about Kerr and rightly so but the team plays the way that they do as much because of Steph and Dray as Kerr. If Steph desperately wanted a different roster and to run different schemes etc then they would. Truth is they have all been just as complacent as one another which has brought them here. And now the decline for Steph and Dray is very much real, neither of them are good enough individually or as a unit to be building an entire team around and expect to actually win consistently. I don't think they will bite the bullet and trade him nor do I think he's so competitive that he will request one. It will just be more of the same for the next few years. For myself JK is the only reason to watch the team at this point. He's not now and may never be the star he hopes to be, but he's far more entertaining than stale Curry ball at this point. I followed the team closely and watched about every game either live on League Pass or a breakdown of it after the fact, but I just can't anymore, it's frankly too frustrating watching a team do the exact same things over and over again and expect different results.
to be fair the warriors arent per say bad, The league has just caught up with them. There stats overall are rivaling their peak seasons but they arent winning as much. They have alot of issues past half time. they used to be the best 3rd and 4th quarter team ever and now they blow 30 point leads on a regular. The start of most games are amazinf and great with a large lead and then come end its reversed 115-140 loss
Hope Steph wants out and contend for a title somewhere else. Don't care about this sorry ahh franchise. They are basically spitting in Stephs face. Steph deserves one last shot at another championship and the Warriors are messing this up.
No such thing as an easy win in the NBA. Grates my last nerve when casual fans say this. You've obviously never competed in anything at the highest level if you think any NBA team except MAYBE the Wizards is and should be an easy win.
No way they trade him...right? Bcuz EVERY team would trade 4 him. He fits every squad bcuz of his shooting and passing. Creativity running the offense, not a huge defensive liability. Pick your teams alpha, put him to the side. Everyone else is on the table. Every pick. Stpehs got a solid 3-4 years of awesome left. You dont want to destroy the team to get him, but your going to get back an incredible package.
They arent lost but the run is over. I am not sure what Warriors fans see but lets be realistic...the only player of value is Steph. Tjhat entire team is wasting his time
Dump that useless contract of Draymond Green and use the money to pick up someone who can play the game. This isn't a friendship association, it's a business and he is not doing anything for them.
Your obsession with Butler to the Warriors is so annoying. It makes absolutely no sense to gut their roster for a guy who doesnt fit in well, barely plays, and will need to be signed to an untradeable contract
Warriors fate was sealed the day they lost the 2020 draft first pick (remember they were the worst team record ways). They would have got ant and everything would be different
IMO they need to move on from Kerr. He is a big part of what is holding the team back. Front office decisions are being made with how he operates. The team has 0 players taller than 6’9” (Quinton Post 7’0” TW contract). Granted there have been some injuries but 14 different starters so far in 38 games. Kerr’s system isn’t working for Wiggins, Kuminga, and others and/or he simply can’t find minutes for them to get into rhythm gain some consistency. They traded for Schroeder to help take some of the scoring pressure, in a small sample size he’s playing 5 less minutes (not a great backcourt pairing), and his points have basically halved. Add this to Kerr’s blunders at the FIBA World Cup (acknowledge they sent a C team), and his inability to juggle the depth he had at the Olympics Time to move on from Kerr.
Here is what I would do behind the scenes for season 2025-2026: Get the ole gang back together again for their version of The Last Dance. Reach out to Andre Iguodala for a role as a player assistance coach. Draymond, Kerr, and Steph should have a secret meeting with KD. Yes, I said KD. Have him come back. Also grab a veteran big man from ...oh I dunno, Europe. They must have saw some good ones at the Olympics. Hell, chat with Kay too. Get them all together and then they must pretty much live in the gym. And when next season starts - they go all the hell out! Out of the gate like a race horse. If they win it all then decide if they want to continue forward. If they don't make it to the big dance ....well it was a hell of a run and the fans will love you for it.
I think they need to stop chasing after guards and small forwards and find a star level starting 5 big for PF or Center. Doesn’t have to be super star level but someone like Naz Reid or Derek Lively would be perfect.
Steph is playing with a team who are low key haters, trying to compete to outshine him, only there to get paid then give up and simply don’t care. Kerr and Coaching staff has allowed the team to sabotage with a certain player’s antics, being overpaid. Smh
I would love to see LeBron come to GSW in FA and him and steph take a little less to have 2 fun seasons together playing good basketball increasing the ratings then riding off ibto the sunset Maybe even surpriaing everyone and getting to the finals
Steph dray wigs needs to be gone the warriors need to be as bad as possible for the next few years to get the next era of warriors basketball Steph in Houston would be a seamless fit
Just leave Steph! You gave the Bay Area MORE than they could have imaged, now ride out into the sunset trying to win another championship or two with another team! Don’t waste the remaining part of your career!!!
"A ton of teams" would be ready to trade for Curry... Curry`s defense is at an all time low. He could be a good complimentary piece to established teams, but almost nobody can trade for him without gutting their roster. Curry is untradable now, especially if the goal is the championship.
PLEASE KEEP DRAYMOND GREEN AWAY FROM THE MAVERICKS. I haven't heard anything about him or the Mavs linked. I have no idea if he would want to come here. Or if the Mavs would want him here. Im just preemptively expressing my feelings on the matter. Not that my feelings really matter anyway.
The problem with two time line. They never played the young guys and to develop them. Now they are older and bad habits. Cause they never prioritize there development. Trade Stephen anywhere he like to go. Forget any real draft stuff. He alone made the team any real value. Draymond ask if he would like to Detroit. Cause he from Michigan. Fire to trade Steve Kurr. Rebuild
The Warriors would be a top 3 team in the west right now if they were a good development organization. they're terrible at developing players. if they actually took the time and effort to develop Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski, they would actually be one of the best teams in the league. But they didn't, and the warriors dont deserve a guy in steph who had to watch them waste true young talent
At some point are they going to look at Kerr? Or just act like he’s amazing at developing players. If I’m Curry I’m asking to move on. Teams will line up. But I bet they make a crazy trade. Maybe kawhi even. Wouldn’t be surprised
Can we stop with the Blasphemy, channels like this are cap. Golden State Already shut down these non sensical channels topics. Steph is more than a player, do u realize how much money Steph brings the Warriors just by being on this roster? They are the highest revenue team right now, the highest in nba history. It’s more than rings g use your head they are not trading Steph. Knock off the trash
Curry is going to be a Warrior for life. They won’t contend for anything the next few years but they’ll be good enough to stay competitive until he retires.
Kerr, Curry, and Dray are dysfunctional atp. The trio is more of a negative to the franchise than a positive atp for their own individual reasons. Steve has been putting out poor lineups that dont benefit the team. Putting players in positions they don't belong so he can run 3-4 guard lineups. Im not sure why his ridiculous lineups have not been talked about more. Curry is still talented but is falling into a level of contentment that he should never have as an all time great. Especially considering he can still contribute to the game at a high level. If this continues it feels like he almost enables this level of mediocrity because he is too attached to the situation. He loves kerr and he loves dray. But it's time to say goodbye. Draymond is draymond I don't think much needs to be said about the level of dysfunction he can bring. But They all need to go and let this franchise try and start fresh. I'm sure curry wont like it. He wants to be a warrior for life. That's the type of guy he is. But I think trading him and finding a new identity without him is something the warriors desperately need. Hes still worth a lot. And this current team too dependent on him and his time is almost up. He needs to go, It's almost time for the warriors to find their own way. Might as well start now
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@Never once done sports betting. I just think it’s immoral to promote something so addictive and life damaging to an audience that likely contains young individuals. I don’t know why you felt the need to comment something so aggressive but there’s the reply you wanted.
@benjismith2549 i think u a lil bit censonship is good people shouldnt choose and benji smith is a bit
*We appreciate it. Gambling is foul and just not smart willingly playing a rigged game. The morality of it is wack on both sides and frick you if you defend it. There's no defense.
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If Steph wants to ride with Steve Kerr and Draymond until the wheels fall off, that's his decision.
They are there.
Brother, the wheels have fallen off
Frfr he should have dabbled in his LeGM bag and moved draymond
@@justinscarborough6428tbh if they woulda kept klay they coulda been the same or better
It's not his decision if the front office doesn't want it to be. They have the power to trade him whether he wants it or not.
They need to think about the next 10 years, not just the next two. It's a business, and they should want to sell tickets. And you're not going to do that if your team is completely barren when Steph retires.
I just saw the HEAT without a certain suspended player get a win against the WARRIORS. It was really sad how far they have fallen time for a rebuild.
Honestly, the Warriors had 2 years to finally trade Kuminga and strike the iron why it was hot to get value out of a player that clearly does not work for the team, they massively overvalued him and failed to get a deal done. Now it is kind of too late as Kumingas value is getting lower because of his unrealistic contract expectations, he wants a max extention, but is very far away from being that kind of player.
I think you don’t get the big picture. Kuminga is 22. He will great in 2-4 seasons from now. Also his market has gone up. Guys like Franz Wagner drove his value high once he got the 200 million extension. You would be prob those guys that want Kuminga out just for him to prove you wrong on another team 2-4 seasons from now.
@@javierlandaverde4108Teams dont want to pay Kuminga 200 million dollars
His trade value was never quite good though because of the salary. Aside from talent, the salary should more or less match.
@ Comparing Kuminga to Wagner is quite frankly ridiculous. Kuminga has not shown anything close to Wagners level of play, we have seen Kuminga play for 4 seasons now and it is basically still the same as his first year, sure great athleticism and impressive moments, but overall he still looks like a headless chicken on the court if he does not have the ball and i am doubtful that will ever change, not sure where you take the confidence from that he will suddenly be a great player in 2-4 years. I honestly think that Franz Wagner was a better player in his first NBA game than Kuminga is now and that is not really close. Kuminga can not shoot, can not really defend and has one of the worst BBIQs of all players in the League, watching him play drives me absolutely insane, he does something absolutely ridiculous almost every min he is on the court. Kuminga is the kind of player that looks amazing in any highlight video because of his athleticism, but as soon as you watch an actual game you are absolutely not surprised that neither the coaches nor teammates trust him on the court at all.
I also disagree that his value increased, i actually think it decreased a lot the last season simply because of his expectation to give him a max extention and his deal looming. He will most likely get overpaid by a bad team that has not really a choice to take a gamble that they will deeply regret.
@@javierlandaverde4108 Franz is already a top 40 player and averaging 10 more points and 4 more assists per game on higher efficiency. Comparing Kuminga to him is silly, we've seen Franz do it. Kuminga is nowhere CLOSE to a max player.
The ugly truth is, they aren't a good team and no trade is going to fix that. Steph is so phenomenal they remain relevant, but they simply are not competitive.
a kd trade could make them a 3rd seed bare minimum
@@RayAvkDwhy would he prove that he can’t win without Steph
That depends on what you mean by relevant. GSW still sells tickets, but they might miss the playoffs...
@@Will4all85 ur right but if kd wins another ring with curry. Curry would be top 5. While Kd would probably be 10. Depending who won finals mvp
Losing w historic bench lol
All I can say is, as a Spurs fan, I was very glad that Timmy and Manu never suited up for anyone else.
This is all ownership's and management's fault. Lacob acted like he and Kerr had solved the NBA, they just got lucky that they hit on three or four drafts in a row. Also, at the beginning, Steph had an ankle injury and they were able to sign him to a below market value contract.
id rather see Steph leave than watch him play for this mediocre warriors roster
I’d rather see him stay. He won what he could. Winning doesn’t last forever. Just make his millions and ride out his legacy in the bay.
@@harveydent8714 losing every night and seeing steph upset and angry is taking years off his life. all that stress and load trying to carry the warriors. he either needs to chill out and coast his legacy or he needs to find a move away from the warriors where he can be more of a supporting piece.
@@johnmarkson1990 he ain’t angry or mad. He said one title push would he fair but he had nothing left to prove. He won everything.
Not every star needs to be in a rush to leave. I don’t believe in blind loyalty to the franchise, but being on one team with all that success is a serious feather in his cap in the modern NBA.
@johnmarkson1990 Why would steph leave anyway? He's 36 which makes no sense for him to leave
At some point you have to operate your NBA franchise like an NBA franchise and stop living in the past solely because you think its a cute idea for your franchise’s best ever to spend the rest of his days there on several mediocre at best teams
Yeah, even if they trade Steph, his legacy will be ingrained with the Warriors.
Yeah, but I mean with Lifers you play a different set of rules. They’ll eventually be bad enough to get another good pick, they just REALLY dropped the ball on LaMelo. Their franchise would be in a completely different place if they took him.
Fans will never be happy.
If a player wants to leave, they’re disloyal. If that same player wants to stay on a bad team, he’s stat chasing and empty calories.
If the franchise trades a star, they get accused of tanking. If they keep the star, they’re wasting the star’s best years.
I say, at some point, they need to stop listening to fans and analysts (and players, in many cases) and run their business.
@@TheySayMaddoxnaw it would’ve looked like when dlo was on the team lamelo not a winning player just a chuck on a bad team
Welp he goes down as the greatest warriors player of all time. If he wants to stay and retire he’s more welcome to stay and retire. If he wants a move it’s fine. If he wants one last minute push. Warriors are patient for the right move. Not many players out there that moves the needle. 🪡 Jokic and Giannis aren’t available. Shows you how hard the market is.
Honestly the issue is that Kerr is not coaching this team well. He's trying to run an offense that depends on prime Steph and Klay, and not one that takes advantage of what he has on the roster right now. There is also the eternal Warriors issue of not having a rim protecting big. But Jimmy Butler doesn't help with that. Jimmy would be a terrible mistake.
Trading Steph would be a good move if you can get something huge, but you'd also probably need something more than just picks. If Kerr took more advantage of his current roster, I do think you'd see a return to the early season Warriors that's more sustainable though.
Meh... Most of people said Kerr is a genious just 2 months ago after GSW's hot start.
He's always been a genious when the team is winning and a dunce when the team is struggling.
He is what he is, but most of the noise is just noise.
@@konzza the people saying that were just looking at the record at not the mirage that it was.
Kuminga is a great example of Kerr failing the roster. He wants Kuminga to be Andrew Wiggins. However, Kuminga is much better going downhill as a ballhandler.
Watching the Warriors you could see that they were actually starting to do that before he got injured. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go back to it.
@@konzza Nah he has always been a coach who rode mark jackson's coattails.
@@konzzaKerr is the only Coach in the league with most championships. It’s not Kerr, he’s always played with elite Coaches, players and knows how to win.
@@LuckywuvsuHow?? Which teams did Mark Coach and play with that has more rings than Kerr?? You’re a casual who doesn’t know the game. Mark has zero rings. Casuals said the same thing after Mike Brown left and looked how they worked for Brown?? SAC Kings are 7-1 since Brown left. Did you know before Kerr joined GSW, her was under Pop from Spurs?? You know nothing, Jon Snow.
I think Steph is a lifer. If he took less money next deal they could maybe send him out on a high note
There might not be any next deal for Steph. He extended his contract by one year last summer and will earn 62m in 2028. The only way Warriors can get him any high note is if they magically build a contending team with draft picks until then to complement with the young guys they are having right now. This would prob need Kuminga or Podz to break the hell out and thats unrealistic.
“There were hurt feelings when Klay left”😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imma be real. I'm a big warriors fan but even bigger fan of curry as my favorite player ever. But it's either you rebuild and trade Steph or make one more big retool. Steph is a winner and want to stay and win. But I think we all want him to at the very least play out the rest of his career to make the most of it. I WANT STEPH TO STILL PLAY AND BE ENJOYING IT. Bro looks exhausted and he's been playing through injuires because he has to for this team. They are way to overreliant on Steph and Kerr needs to listen to Stackhouse and stotts because his way of coaching isn't cutting it at all.
bros gonna get an actual injury from carrying too hard like kobe did
Kerr has never been a good coach. He rode the team to 4 rings that was gifted to him by Mark Jackson and Jerry West.
The General Manager & Coach need to go
The best thing to do for their future is trade Steph whether he wants out or not. He would still get you a ton of value in a trade. I'm talking 4-5 picks and some good young players. That would at least set them up for a rebuild. But I don't see the front office having the stomach to do that. Instead, they'll probably try to make a medium-sized trade that will squander some of their assets and not make them much better.
You mentioned the possibility of Butler. But do we really think he's going to take them over the top? Imo, it would take a player closer to Giannis's level to make them a title threat again. And if a top 5 player does become available, the Warriors certainly won't have the best trade package to offer.
Team imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
Bingo.
the team can't put that on Steph. if they're going to trade him, the team needs to be out front of it instead of making it seems like he's asking to be traded. even if Steph does ask to be traded, the team shouldn't put that on him imo. he's done way too much for that franchise for they to put that on him
Lol damage control is crazy
The only tough decision for the Warriors is Steve Kerr. It does not matter who is traded. Look at Steve Kerr’s history. He is fascinated with guards, a motion offense, and 3 point play. This alone is not a consistent winning combination in the NBA because it creates difficult matchups for GSW. There is no question that GSW has a talented roster. Steve Kerr has said this himself. GSW has been competitive every year until this year because Steve Kerr has been consistently playing players out of their normal positions. This is because of Steph and Draymond. When you ask Guards to play forwards, and you ask forwards to play center, you destroy the self confidence of the whole team. Every loss that GSW has lost can go back to Steve Kerr’s substitution patterns and his insistence to keep a 3 or 4 guard lineup.
I agree with you 100% - the correct basketball decision is to part ways with Steph and Draymond while they still have value. Just like with Lillard in Portland.
The "Two Timelines" experiment imploded with the Wiseman pick.
Shoulda picked Melo over Wiseman
If they part ways with those two and the same time then they will part ways with their fan base.
Imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
@@OntarioAndrews415 are fans having a good time right now? This is what it will look like the next two years unless Podz turns into Steve Nash when he returns.
I don't think Draymond has value lol
Imagine Steph joining Jokic :O
Unrealistic sadly Jokic and Curry contracts are too big
Kd signing all over again
@@RayAvkD ?
Murray and Mpj are almost equal to Steph
Steph is 60
Murray is 50 and Mpj is 40 iirc
Yup, imagine those 2 in the pick and roll on defense every possession.
Always enjoy your videos!
I like how most of the highlights was against the pelicans
I dont think theres a trade that fixes this team because of steve kerrs refusal to stick with a lineup to get some consistency. Thats been a huge part of the problem. The gm could have made this easy by committing to a path youth vs veteran. They paid moody to play less somehow. Just terrible management.
Life just comes around. He was extremely fortunate to have landed in GS, and had some of most well rounded rosters ever built around him. Now as he goes into the last bit of his career , he’s feeling what LeBron got early in his career. Respect to Steph but this will be it until he retires
Jamal Murray for Step Curry
Imagine Nikola Jokic passing to Curry getting infinite wide open spot up shots
*things that would be very cool but would never happen
Cool idea, but the warriors would get nothing back.
I honestly do not think Jimmy Butler raises the needle for the Warriors at this point in his career.
They are going to have to look at Portland, Washington, Utah, Brooklyn, Toronto and Philadelphia to be trade partners with.
I just don't see a path with Butler going to Golden State and them being a better team.
I think Butler will be too much of distraction for them because of his wanting a max extension.
They would do much better if they tried to get something like Jeremi Grant and Robert Williams from Portland. I don't know if that is possible or not, but I feel like they would improve the team more woth them because Grant is a good shooter and Williams is a damn good interior defender and rim protector. I don't know if there would be interest between the two teams or not. If they can wdork the financial side out or not.
I just think Grant and Williams move the needle more. Plus they are both younger than Butler and that helps as well.
People hate when loyal players are traded, people hate when the franchise is loyal to the player whos done so much for them. Theres no winning with yall
No, DIFFERENT people hate those things and like the other, and also its situational. “Theres no winning with yall so fuck it” is not a franchise management strategy
@@Mannyc7 100% facts. Yall need to STFU and let Steph make his decision. He’s absolutely won everything and has nothing to prove.
Dude warriors aren’t being loyal to Steph letting him go down with that dumpster fire of a roster.
@@streettoughfighting there isn’t no Jokic and Giannis available. Even if they get Vucavic or Lavine. It doesn’t guarantee a ring.
What's even worse is they aren't even aware that they do it and are like that. They just regurgitate common consensus and follow what everyone else says like Sheep
Damn that’s crazy they was lookin smooth at the beginning of the season with buddy hield
You need to do video on the resurgence of the Pistons!
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The man is being good money, he has love from within the organization, and he has already won four titles. It's just a matter of what's important to him right now. The Warriors are not in a position to really win right now, but every franchise is looking at the financial horizon with dropping ratings. This environment is forcing front offices to be more conservative. As for Kuminga, he's a great athletic player and a potential break-out star but there must be a reason why the Warriors are hedging and maybe it's not about salary.
Butler comes with a player option for 50 mil lol. Ain't no way they signing him.
I don’t get why legacy doesn’t matter more than salary when they already have so much saved and so much money coming from things outside of the league.
It would make sense to take a massive pay cut to free space for other players.
I actually don’t know a thing about sports or sports management. But this intuitively seems like a fair deal for a lebron or a curry at this stage in their careers, where a pristine legacy will earn them more money and happiness over the long haul than any salary (present or future).
Couldn’t agree more! Also, it’s just counterintuitive to be increasing the players salary if they are past their peak which both steph and Lebron are.
Steph is not just a NBA player but an international phenomenon that are strictly tied to Warriors. That’s too much of loss for business standpoint. Also, only couple of rebuilding teams are now contenders and it took them more than 5 years until they get there.
Golden state missing on the top 3 lottery pick was a big turning point
0:12 Man the western conference ain't fair! .500 get you 11 in the West is crazy work
GSW now are a play-in team at their peak condition
I think Steph should ask for a trade. He's played and won enough for the Warriors to establish his legacy there. He doesn't need to be a Warrior for life
This might sound harsh, but Steph made this bed. People often complain about Kerr and rightly so but the team plays the way that they do as much because of Steph and Dray as Kerr. If Steph desperately wanted a different roster and to run different schemes etc then they would. Truth is they have all been just as complacent as one another which has brought them here.
And now the decline for Steph and Dray is very much real, neither of them are good enough individually or as a unit to be building an entire team around and expect to actually win consistently.
I don't think they will bite the bullet and trade him nor do I think he's so competitive that he will request one. It will just be more of the same for the next few years.
For myself JK is the only reason to watch the team at this point. He's not now and may never be the star he hopes to be, but he's far more entertaining than stale Curry ball at this point.
I followed the team closely and watched about every game either live on League Pass or a breakdown of it after the fact, but I just can't anymore, it's frankly too frustrating watching a team do the exact same things over and over again and expect different results.
your views and points are spot on, agree 100%
to be fair the warriors arent per say bad, The league has just caught up with them. There stats overall are rivaling their peak seasons but they arent winning as much. They have alot of issues past half time. they used to be the best 3rd and 4th quarter team ever and now they blow 30 point leads on a regular. The start of most games are amazinf and great with a large lead and then come end its reversed 115-140 loss
also these numbers arent exact more of an idea, they are however close
Hope Steph wants out and contend for a title somewhere else. Don't care about this sorry ahh franchise. They are basically spitting in Stephs face. Steph deserves one last shot at another championship and the Warriors are messing this up.
Their early record was a mirage ... they played like 10 tomato cans to start the year
No such thing as an easy win in the NBA. Grates my last nerve when casual fans say this.
You've obviously never competed in anything at the highest level if you think any NBA team except MAYBE the Wizards is and should be an easy win.
Celtics..W...OKC...W...Mavs...W.
Not exactly terrible teams. But, i get it.
Like they always say in these situations--even Jordan played for the Wizards.
No way they trade him...right? Bcuz EVERY team would trade 4 him. He fits every squad bcuz of his shooting and passing. Creativity running the offense, not a huge defensive liability. Pick your teams alpha, put him to the side. Everyone else is on the table. Every pick. Stpehs got a solid 3-4 years of awesome left. You dont want to destroy the team to get him, but your going to get back an incredible package.
Winning somewhere else is also not a guarantee.. who has the 55M available space in their roster and can keep their number 1 guy?
Hypothetically what if Steph leaves and dray is the only player in the big 3 to have played his entire career with the warriors
im a big curry fan, but curry is also part of this. sometimes there are careless turnovers and untimely threeees in his part
It's like trying to feel sorry for the Kansas City Chiefs
butler would not solve our problems, we need a big
Late stage Kobe Bryant might be the best comparison here.
But Kobe had his injuries and the Lakers owed protected firsts for Nash and Howard.
Watch Charlotte make a go at him while also making a go for Jimmy Butler in the offseason.
4:37 😂😂😂, as a player coach like Udonis Haslem
You're not using your brain if you think Curry and management haven't discussed all those things, every season
Send Steph to the Spurs. They are a team that can afford him, have trade capital, and would be a great fit for what Steph can provide.
Lavine is a no and Cameron Johnson is a no.
Jonathan Kumiga will not be traded because the Heat would want Kumiga and Jk is not getting traded.
They arent lost but the run is over. I am not sure what Warriors fans see but lets be realistic...the only player of value is Steph. Tjhat entire team is wasting his time
Dump that useless contract of Draymond Green and use the money to pick up someone who can play the game. This isn't a friendship association, it's a business and he is not doing anything for them.
Your obsession with Butler to the Warriors is so annoying. It makes absolutely no sense to gut their roster for a guy who doesnt fit in well, barely plays, and will need to be signed to an untradeable contract
Should have empowered atleast Kumminga, Santos and TJD from day one...instead they played with time
They lost Klay, KD, and Poole to keep Draymond
Trade Podz and Kuminga for better chemistry players.
They need to either do a big win now move or trade steph curry to a team He thinks He can win which would probably be Lakers TBH.
Warriors fate was sealed the day they lost the 2020 draft first pick (remember they were the worst team record ways). They would have got ant and everything would be different
Ant would have become what moody is. Kerr wouldn't have benched Klay for him.
Trade Steph while you can get something for him. Remember the past, don’t live in it
Just get Jimmy, go all in and help the Heat rebuild 😂
Is a little disingenuous to say they are way at the bottom. The West is super competitive right now. Only a four game difference between 4th and 12th.
Leave the Warriors Steph leave now.
IMO they need to move on from Kerr. He is a big part of what is holding the team back.
Front office decisions are being made with how he operates. The team has 0 players taller than 6’9” (Quinton Post 7’0” TW contract).
Granted there have been some injuries but 14 different starters so far in 38 games.
Kerr’s system isn’t working for Wiggins, Kuminga, and others and/or he simply can’t find minutes for them to get into rhythm gain some consistency.
They traded for Schroeder to help take some of the scoring pressure, in a small sample size he’s playing 5 less minutes (not a great backcourt pairing), and his points have basically halved.
Add this to Kerr’s blunders at the FIBA World Cup (acknowledge they sent a C team), and his inability to juggle the depth he had at the Olympics
Time to move on from Kerr.
Here is what I would do behind the scenes for season 2025-2026: Get the ole gang back together again for their version of The Last Dance. Reach out to Andre Iguodala for a role as a player assistance coach. Draymond, Kerr, and Steph should have a secret meeting with KD. Yes, I said KD. Have him come back. Also grab a veteran big man from ...oh I dunno, Europe. They must have saw some good ones at the Olympics. Hell, chat with Kay too. Get them all together and then they must pretty much live in the gym. And when next season starts - they go all the hell out! Out of the gate like a race horse. If they win it all then decide if they want to continue forward. If they don't make it to the big dance ....well it was a hell of a run and the fans will love you for it.
Demand a trade to the Spurs, Steph and Wemby would be must watch basketball...
Steph‘s situation is the same is Lebum’s. Just leave them be.
Steph looked big sad after getting smoked by the Kings.
Can’t blame the players. Fire Steve Kurr.
The warriors should try to get booker
How many guards do you need?
Saw this coming a mile away, Steph should have left when he could!
On PG trade they didnt want to include Kuminga
I think they need to stop chasing after guards and small forwards and find a star level starting 5 big for PF or Center. Doesn’t have to be super star level but someone like Naz Reid or Derek Lively would be perfect.
Steph is playing with a team who are low key haters, trying to compete to outshine him, only there to get paid then give up and simply don’t care. Kerr and Coaching staff has allowed the team to sabotage with a certain player’s antics, being overpaid. Smh
I would love to see LeBron come to GSW in FA and him and steph take a little less to have 2 fun seasons together playing good basketball increasing the ratings then riding off ibto the sunset
Maybe even surpriaing everyone and getting to the finals
Steph SHOULD retire in Golden State, like the greats. Playing for another team would tarnish his career and legacy. Loyalty has a lot of value, too.
GSW should throw It all in a trade for Butler, so they have a chance to compete. If It doesnt work then trade Steph, but give It one more chance
I can’t see butler doing anything in the warriors
gsw fo is just like the heat fo, always promising that they are going to make all in moves to win but never delivering.
that's why there gm left he seen this happening
Eh I'm sure curry is good after that last championship. That proved a lot to the rest of the NBA. I don't see him ever not retiring a warrior
Dysfunction via Draymond and Kerr's enabling of the clown.
Steph dray wigs needs to be gone the warriors need to be as bad as possible for the next few years to get the next era of warriors basketball Steph in Houston would be a seamless fit
Steph with the warriors would be a chip
Imagine if they drafted Lamelo
Just leave Steph! You gave the Bay Area MORE than they could have imaged, now ride out into the sunset trying to win another championship or two with another team! Don’t waste the remaining part of your career!!!
"A ton of teams" would be ready to trade for Curry... Curry`s defense is at an all time low. He could be a good complimentary piece to established teams, but almost nobody can trade for him without gutting their roster. Curry is untradable now, especially if the goal is the championship.
PLEASE KEEP DRAYMOND GREEN AWAY FROM THE MAVERICKS. I haven't heard anything about him or the Mavs linked. I have no idea if he would want to come here. Or if the Mavs would want him here. Im just preemptively expressing my feelings on the matter. Not that my feelings really matter anyway.
The problem with two time line. They never played the young guys and to develop them. Now they are older and bad habits. Cause they never prioritize there development. Trade Stephen anywhere he like to go. Forget any real draft stuff. He alone made the team any real value. Draymond ask if he would like to Detroit. Cause he from Michigan. Fire to trade Steve Kurr. Rebuild
Fire Steve Kerr immediately ‼️
The Warriors would be a top 3 team in the west right now if they were a good development organization. they're terrible at developing players. if they actually took the time and effort to develop Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski, they would actually be one of the best teams in the league. But they didn't, and the warriors dont deserve a guy in steph who had to watch them waste true young talent
At some point are they going to look at Kerr? Or just act like he’s amazing at developing players. If I’m Curry I’m asking to move on. Teams will line up. But I bet they make a crazy trade. Maybe kawhi even. Wouldn’t be surprised
Warriors never offered kuminga for Paul George and laura marketing. Just Wiggins , filler , and one 1st .
Can we stop with the Blasphemy, channels like this are cap. Golden State Already shut down these non sensical channels topics. Steph is more than a player, do u realize how much money Steph brings the Warriors just by being on this roster? They are the highest revenue team right now, the highest in nba history. It’s more than rings g use your head they are not trading Steph. Knock off the trash
Curry is going to be a Warrior for life. They won’t contend for anything the next few years but they’ll be good enough to stay competitive until he retires.
bruh they're not competitive right now
Competitive for the play in?
Kerr, Curry, and Dray are dysfunctional atp. The trio is more of a negative to the franchise than a positive atp for their own individual reasons. Steve has been putting out poor lineups that dont benefit the team. Putting players in positions they don't belong so he can run 3-4 guard lineups. Im not sure why his ridiculous lineups have not been talked about more. Curry is still talented but is falling into a level of contentment that he should never have as an all time great. Especially considering he can still contribute to the game at a high level. If this continues it feels like he almost enables this level of mediocrity because he is too attached to the situation. He loves kerr and he loves dray. But it's time to say goodbye. Draymond is draymond I don't think much needs to be said about the level of dysfunction he can bring. But They all need to go and let this franchise try and start fresh. I'm sure curry wont like it. He wants to be a warrior for life. That's the type of guy he is. But I think trading him and finding a new identity without him is something the warriors desperately need. Hes still worth a lot. And this current team too dependent on him and his time is almost up. He needs to go, It's almost time for the warriors to find their own way. Might as well start now
Send Steph to the Bucks with Giannis
them and the suns need 2 make a big trade why not KD 2 Warriors or Curry 2 Suns