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Yes, I know, I've already commented an essay-worth but... When I watched my first episode on this channel I thought,"Cool, another true crime channel" Then I was pleased because you featured crimes that are effectively unknown. Then I was impressed by your research, taken aback to find a real person narrating a *very* well written script...and so it's gone on. I think though, that all my compliments stem from *one* aspect, and that is, it's like reading a well written true crime book by a knowledgeable, forensically trained author The exacting nature of your reasoning, at the end of each video, is like the last two chapters of good true crime books. You've detailed the murder, used illustrations and court/media documents to show what actually happened, but then you give your viewers the reasoning involved in your saying,"They got away with...". Each video episode you upload is like a concentrated version of a TC book. There is one major mystery left...."Why the H don't you have more subscribers? As in, millions more?
Thank you very much, Bilinda - I am quite delighted you have enjoyed my work so much! I shall be well satisfied if the subscribers I have are as appreciative as you are!
@@DP-rx6zf I ran across his videos for the first time 2 days ago. I don't subscribe to just anything but within 3 minutes of watching for the first time I hit subscribe. I have never subscribed so quickly before.
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, speaking through his creation Sherlock Holmes, remarked that 'when a doctor goes to the bad he becomes the very worst of criminals', citing Palmer (from my home town) and Cream. It seems he was speaking prophetically.
Sir Doyle himself was a doctor - on exhuming the body of his wife her hair was examined had quite a dose of arsenic in it. True you can't prove anything after hundred years...
Arthur Conan Doyle himself was a doctor. He was financially unsuccessful as an eye specialist, which was why he resorted to writing fiction. One of Doyle’s medical school professors was the inspiration for Holmes’ methods of observation- the instructor would point out to the students that a patient was, say, a left-handed Freemason who had recently returned from Barbados.
I came across your videos a couple of days ago and have got hooked. I find this one particularly interesting since I grew up on the outskirts of Randalstown in the 1960s. I hadn't heard about Adams until now but I do know something of the small but powerful sect to which he belonged - the Plymouth Brethren. This group had a small meeting hall at Clonkeen, about 3 miles north west of Randalstown, which was built and run by a local merchant. As one his employees for a time, I got to see how this guy and his flock put their religious faith into practice. The best way to describe how religious these people were, just think about the American TV series Little House On The Prairie brought into a 20th Century setting. They preached a strict set of rules - no sex outside marriage, always tell the truth, do not steal, do not question authority, etc etc. They even had a rule that no member of the sect was allowed to have a television set in their home. They didn't of course practice what they preached. The merchant had a fleet of lorries, including at one point in the early 70s two of the heaviest and most powerful trucks in Ireland. There were a few road traffic incidents, involving these vehicles, at least one which resulted in the death of another road user. Strangely none of these ever lead to police investigations or proscecutions. Many of this congregation were sleeping with each other's spouses. Dishonesty in business was commonplace as was greed and avarice. Most of the flock were quite wealthy, and those who weren't used their connections to catch up with the rest. Employees were treated like servants, just as in the Bible. - the reason I left and got a job elsewhere. I wasn't in the least shocked by the story of Dr. Adams. I'd be more surprised if this sect didn't produce many more like him.
Thank you, Michael - that is a fascinating insight into the Plymouth Brethren, of which, I confess, I know very little. I guess any religion that is extreme in its views or the demands it places on its adherents is likely to produce (and attract) a strange kind of follower...
An evil mind of greed and confabulation. The judiciary not only ignored the judicial process but also the common laws. He walked away with guilt and wealth with probable misogynistic smirk of his face.
So true. Gluttony n greed, deadly sins, that never end well. Be good, be blessed. A soul like Dr.Adams, is too heavy(with corruption etc) to rise up-to heaven ever. Way it is.
The evil that hid behind his warm and kindly outward demeanor, is shocking. Preying on sick and lonely women,smiling ,consoling ,while counting their silver. He will be judged some day, .by the God he said he served.
Wow, how fascinating that his very crimes were allowed to continue.. this left me feeling unsettled. Let’s hope he got justice on the other side. Thank you Mark.
This guy was a warm up for Harold Shipman. Unlike Adams, Shipman was found guilty. This type of crime is every grown child's nightmae when their parents start to need home care. They become vulnerable to predators such as these doctos.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Unfortunately the ratio of genuine complaints of malpractice versus the false whinging claims against doctors is what makes the medical profession more likely to disbelieve claims from the public.
@@nomadpurple6154 but shouldn’t the fact that a professional in charge of a vulnerable person benefits from the vulnerable petson in the form of getting an inheritance from the vulnerable person be circumstantial evidences of guilt? I am a lawyer and they taught me in professional ethics NEVER to get any benefit other than my fee from a client, especially a vulnerable one . In fact for lawyers they don’t allow us to even have a contract with an able bodied client that benefits us more than the client! The client can challenge the contract as unconscionable . Why are doctors getting away with it? Wow this is shocking
@@sakhilemathumo-mhodi2901 Ma’am, we are not getting away with “this” because we aren’t doing “this.” The most I have ever accepted from a patient (I am a salaried doctor) has been flowers, handcrafts, cards, and baked goods. This man practiced in the 1930s - 1950s. I would not be surprised if some few attorneys at that time behaved similarly. Standards of professional behavior for both our professions, and more importantly, the oversight thereof, have definitely improved since then. The access to prescription drugs - especially painkillers - is nowadays very tightly controlled.
The only two differences I see between Adams and Shipman is: Shipman was a drug addict and he was put in Jail. It just goes to show it's not what you know it's who you know.
It was quite common for physicians and pharmacists to be secret addicts, especially in the old days. Even Humphrey Bogart's dad was a physician who was secretly addicted to opium. It was called "the doctor's disease".
Yes - one of the most disturbing aspects of this case is how immune Dr Adams felt he was: even when police were investigating him, he could continue fiddling prescriptions of dangerous drugs and cremating bodies before they could be examined... Then when prosecutions were set in motion he was able to rely on so many friends in high places, who either supported him, or who were not prepared to risk the scandal of exposing him.
A good USA decision to not approve a visa for that monster. A real sociopath- with no integrity including sexual. Disgusting- voyeuristic bent, too. His friends followed mafia tactics in "circling their wagons." The protecting of their own still common even with vets!Most likely, a corrupt Dr. like this would not last long in a medical practice today. There are laws in USA to prevent Dr.s from adminstering certain meds & shots without another med professional as witness. There are more low cost or free advice to seniors re: estate planning & avoiding fraud. Too bad the ugly s.o.b. live til his early eighties. That long sealed documents order was indeed overkill.No doubt the perps wanted to bury the damaging reports long enough for all involved to be dead.
@@ladylibertywdc8324 Yep, and many is the time that a doctor will do something criminal and a fellow medical professional(s), well-knowing what is happening, will be present. The AMA: they take care of their own.
Although it is, of course, wrong to generalise about this, doctors have always been handed a certain invulnerability due to their powerful governing body and their perceived superior status that all too often breeds a very distasteful form of arrogance. This should change. Doctors are not above any of us. They are public servants and should behave as such, whatever their level of training and expertise and the degree of trust that society puts in them. The fact that they sometimes allow their demigod-like status go to their heads leads to cases such as this one and the Shipman affair.
I agree. Most doctors act with the best of intentions and to the best of their ability, I'm sure. But the General Medical Council often acts to protect doctors rather than regulate them and ensure they are held to account. The BMA is the doctors' trade union, and this has far too much influence, I think. It's certainly a tricky balancing act where doctors are concerned, because, after all, they deal with life and death matters as routine in their day to day jobs; they are required to take tough decisions - even life-threatening ones, and they obviously make mistakes. But the fact that people such as Shipman and Adams were able to get away with so many deaths over a period covering most of their careers, shows that the balance is not quite right.
Is it still the case that you can not shop around for a gp in the uk NHS? I moved to Australia in 87 to get away from the class injustices. Here we have a similar system medicare which gives power to the patient to choose.
@@PhilMace Hi Phil, yes you can change doctor easily here now. Most practices have several doctors and although you are nominally "assigned" to one, you can see any of them. In addition, you can switch to another practice as you please. Australia - good move - wonderful country! :)
I had to do a double check...I was just listening at first and I thought I accidentally clicked on Harold Shipman. When I checked... I suddenly heard the theme tune to the Twilight Zone in my mind. Shipman and Adams are so similar.
Only their preferred substances seemed to differ. Shipman preferred morphine and heroin, while Adams was more a paraldehyde and barbiturate kind of guy. And the fact that Adams never was punished of course.
Just listened again, Mark. You have a gift for storytelling, and also an analytical approach which puts the case objectively. I love your beautifully structured presentations.
Superb series. Clear and concise without any Hollywood style dramatizations or reenactments with unemployed actors. Excellent legal analysis, insights and perspective. Well researched and presented. Watch them all. Well done Mr. Maguire and thankyou
Oh my Goodness all these Dr's , it makes you think doesn't it ! Eg. Dr Harold Shipman. It also makes one feel grateful for modern medicine & medications instead of.the old tonics & powders . Though you cannot think ill of the Olden Day Dr's. But his Adams is Horrid. Once again thank you so much for such a professional presentation. Top Quality..
Thank you very much Leanne - yes, I quite agree. We place so much trust in drs that it also makes it especially shocking when they go bad - and they are really in an ideal position to get away with such things!
Still a common problem. In Indiana one of our past governors was a physician. He tied up the legal system here so that it is nearly impossible to declare a doctor made a mistake or error. Even some of the most deplorable cases have been ruled unproven.
The Shipman case was similar: he had a record of dishonesty and misuse of drugs. The GMC allowed him to carry on practicing medicine and we all know where that led. Even then, the government initially wanted the inquiry to be held in private. Plus ça change.
It is ABSOLUTELY SCANDALOUS that the medical community "protect" its members when, frankly, many of those members are unworthy , if not outright criminals! The same with those in the legal community. Shameful & wretched. They've both proven to be unable to self-police.
Makes me wonder how many of those who covered for him (or for each other) were also using or abusing drugs. He may have been, in a sense, a high-status drug dealer for others. He would wield definite power over them, considering the addictiveness of the drugs he was apparently obtaining and doling out.
@@SMichaelDeHart I was thinking too of stories of celebrities and their doctors more recently who benefitted financially while continually overprescribing drugs for their wealthy patients... Elvis, Michael Jackson, Howard Hughes, etc. Some of these may get caught more nowadays but the punishment still, if any, is minimal for the doctors involved (Jackson's doctor served less than 3 years).
I’ve only just found you and I’m loving your channel. Your voice is so pleasant and calm to listen to and I’m fascinated by old crimes. Had a bit of a binge of your videos this morning, so I know I’m in for a treat when I hear the match being struck at the start. Thank you for your work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wonderfully read and paced. I enjoyed all of the information in this video, especially about the needs of certain institutions and the need to withhold information on serious matters. Thank you.
I was ten years old at the time of Adams' trial and remember the lurid headlines in the newspapers and the photos of him which frightened me because he looked so sinister. To now discover the corruption amongst people in such trusted positions in public life is truly shocking. I wonder if he was Shipman's inspiration?
I see it was produced by the BBC in 1986, scripted by Richard Gordon of "Doctor in the House" fame, but it could not have included any of the details that came out in 2003 and I don't think the cover-up aspects were included either.
And this is why all institutions need some form of checks and balances. No one individual should have that much authority when it comes to other people's well-being.
I was diagnosed with lung cancer by a Mayo Clinic MD. I didn't believe him, and refused all treatment. Four years later I found out he had lied, and there isn't a damn thing can be done about it. In the medical profession, it is all about the money.
Due to things like the Liverpool care plan and use of madazolin etc recently I have zero faith in the medical authority, haven't been to a Dr for over 30 years and am no longer registered with any.
@They Got Away With Murder - It’s possible that Shipman did it bc he liked the power over life and death. But try to understand that psychopaths don’t feel empathy & they have no conscience. So they don’t NEED a reason or motive. Motive is for “normal” people. It’s been suggested that bc psychopaths don’t “feel” what the rest of us feel that they engage in thrill seeking/edgy behavior bc that may be the only way they feel anything at all. (And thus resort to murder. And then, like an addict they keep chasing the dragon each time they kill again but never achieve the same high they feel with that first kill. But I think it’s likely they don’t need a motive. Motive is what drives normal people to silence our conscience. Since they don’t have one, they don’t need a reason or motive, at least not one that you or I will ever understand. Neuroscience is demonstrating that they aren’t like us, physiologically, anyway. The portions of the brain responsible for impulse control, conscience, mood control do not work normally. Is that an excuse? It demonstrates that no amount of treatment will ever make them safe to line in a community. Perhaps some day someone will figure out how to repair that damage but currently the prognosis is very grim.
I still can't find out from those 'in the field' to agree on the differences between psychopathy & sociopathy, don't 'try' to explain, I've heard it all before and it just muddies water that's still dense and hard to see through! You just can't agree on something no one, including professionals, agree's apon!!! Science nor religion will, or has to agree., because neither can ever be perfect no matter how hard we try, we're always going to be fallible
Sadly, back in the 1940s and 1950s (and before then), gay men were at great risk of being blackmailed, which is what I believe happened with the doctor's powerful friends, accounting for his lifelong Get Out of Jail Free pass.
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Unlike Adams, Shipman's own arrogance led to him.being convicted. Both Adams and Shipman were true professionals, in that they were well paid for carrying out their crimes and then the grieving families paid to dispose of the victims' bodies.
I grew up Plymouth Brethren in the US (in the 1950's). I practically jumped out of my skin upon hearing of his Plymouth Brethren background. Thank you for this story.
These are fantastic, I urge anyone who teaches history, especially legal history, A' level law or a first year LL.B class on English Legal System to assign a few of these to your students! The same for those studying criminology or criminal justice. There is no dramatic music or cliffhanger questions, that make many documentaries insufferable, as the cliffhanger question usually winds up with a banal answer and the music drowns out what people are saying. These are very well researched (I had read extensively on Bodkin Adams and learned new material) and demonstrate the flaws in English legal process in some cases. In others, they prove true the old adage that "it is better that ten guilty men go free than that one innocent person should suffer". I cannot recommend these highly enough: BUT, please be sure you post the link for people to watch and don't download to show (even for teaching) as credit must be given where credit is due and also students (and professors, readers, lecturers etc or equivalent overseas) can find and watch more.
The reluctance of the body charged with regulating medical profession have always been reluctant to act against their own - doctors have difficult decisions and are afforded the benefit of the doubt by necessity - but Adams should surely have been brought to book...
Male homosexuality was a crime in 1957. Adams was part of another exclusive, self-protecting group besides the medical profession. His powerful friends had a strong motive for making sure Adams was acquitted - think of the beans he could have spilt.
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That's the UK Tory Government for you......and it hasn't changed even today......
Hospitals do it to avoid law suits and exhumations and just all kind of mess. They just fire the person. That’s with nurses. Transparency is the last of their goals.
Shocking, a serial killer more sinister than Dr Shipman. Your delivery, scripts and research are absolutely the most professional I’ve experienced on YT. You deserve to be a YT superstar with millions of subscribers. Please keep up the great work.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Shipman was about 12 or 13 when this case came to trial. The methods were also the same, injection, home visits, worked on his own, got left things in wills, mostly women killed too
Coincidentally, I’ve just listened to this (again!), on the anniversary of Adams’ death, the 4th July, An amazing story, especially the fact of Adams’ influential lovers! Thank you again Mark👏👏👏
Is this where Harold Shipman got his ideas from even before Shipman was mentioned in this video I already thought it sounds like another Shipman .You can’t trust your own doctor!!!!
The Plymouth Brethren is a very strict, apocalyptic sect. For being a rather small movement, the Plymouth Brethren has produced a lot of very interesting people (not all of them criminals).
This is the most appalling of the cases I have listened to so far. So many amoral people in law enforcement and the legal and medical communities who couldn't care less about people being murdered. I wonder if Adams was also a blackmailer.
And we are shocked at the same today in politics, social media, etc. Nothing changes much except the scope of their corruption and influence is vastly larger. (And I don't mean doctors)
The BMA have so much to answer for. If Adams had been caught, Shipman wouldn’t have got away with his mass murder. Fascinating summing up. Gripping true horror. Thank you
More please. I know it's alot of work but some of us can't get enough of your stories! Thank you! "Truth is strange-stranger than fiction"-Byron. NOTE: This peed me off the most. Adams shld have been fried.
Brilliantly researched and read and produced. Puts the detritus made by US/UK true crime dramas with $100,000 budgets to shame. Hope he diversifies into other crime cases.
I would LOVE to know the background of Adam's childhood. A sociopathic serial killer, especially of this caliber, had to have some tell tale signs as a young person.
@judibiggerstaff8054 It could have been his strict religious upbringing and sexual orientation that caused a mental illness in him. It could've just as easily been he was a monster who loved wealth.
Way back in the beginning, when you said Adams had been bequeathed the Rolls Royce, I thought, Gee whiz, Harold Shipman was a poor man's version of this guy. I'm nearly at the end, and that thought has repeated over and over. But, definitely, if Shipman was inspired by Adams, he doesn't seem to have learned much from someone who might be his spirit guide. Certainly as far as how not to get caught, he goofed. After all, original suspicion of Shipman came because.of the number of cremations orders for which he wanted co-signers. *And* the wheels came off when he tried to actually forge a will, not just getting left money, or pocketing valuables. (Later PS edit- guess what came up next in auto-play? Yep, the doco about Shipman) I'm on my fourth one of these today. So apparently I have a new addiction. I have a feeling I might as well set up some sort of robo-comment, saying wow, what detailed research, wonderful script writing and narration, because otherwise I'm going to lose valuable watching time trying to think of different ways to say it. So, ya know, take it as given. Oh, and I love the drawings. Are they what's called pen and ink? Or used to be? You can tell I have no artistic skills "but I do know what I like"! There's only a couple where I can see there's a signature but I can only view via my phone atm. However, I can visualise you thinking"Rats, there's no photos or newspaper clippings for this bit, need to offer a visual....oh well, if you want something done right..." In the comment scrolling I've done, nobody seems to have mentioned them, but their aptness makes it almost certain they're your own, so kudos on yet another aspect of these wonderful productions.
Thank you, Bilinda - I am glad my efforts are not wasted! Yes, the similarities with Shipman are startling - I often wonder why murderers make facile errors when they commit their crimes; errors which will probably be their undoing. I have concluded it is like a kind of colour blindness: their view of reality is skewed and they simply see their crime through a prism of their own devising. The drawings are usually done with black india ink - sometimes the multimedia paper is given a light watercolour wash to give a sepia tone, so the it "fits in" with the period! Many thanks again for your kind comment.
Thank you!! keep me very entertained ! Saturday, just got from work and really love the way is presented...is just going back on time , the history is very rich and well documented!
So the main differences between this case and Shipman are that it was an age where doctors were revered and he had friends in high places. It makes you wonder how many more doctors down the ages may have got away with murder. Even nowadays it's only unusual trends in death rate that draw attention to authorities. Like this nurse in the UK now: attention was drawn to her because the death rate in her ward was so much higher than the average. She could have got away with one or 2 murders without any eyebrows being raised.
I've only recently stumbled across your channel and, of all your narratives, this one is the most disturbing. What an horrifc miscarriage of justice. Loving your presentation and scrupulously researched essays. Thank you.
Mark your videos are all fantastic thank you so much. I meant to comment ages ago about Bodkin Adams. I knew a lovely Doctor years ago Hector Jordan who practiced at the same surgery for a time & he told me he thought Adams was guilty. Its interesting too, that Theresa May's father was the Chaplain at All Saints Hospital Eastbourne when many of Adams patients died & the two new each other reasonably well apparently. Dr John Surtees book about Adams is well worth a read.
Excellent documentary, bravo. My late grandmother was befriended by Dr Bodkin Adams when she moved to Eastbourne in the 1960s. She was a glamorous, vivacious divorcee - though not a wealthy one - and he would take her out for meals and on Sunday drives. He was 10 years older and proposed marriage to her, but she declined - we used to tease her that she should have accepted and become a wealthy widow! I've often pondered his marriage proposal, in view of the fact he was gay. I can only surmise he craved a conventional, respectable lifestyle, and perhaps thought reinventing himself as a husband would help him overcome the social stigma of his murder trial. He used to take her teenage son out for driving lessons in his Rolls Royce, which caused a lot of curtain-twitching! Grannie was of course aware of his history, but as he was not her doctor and she enjoyed his company as a friend only, it didn't worry her. She knew he wasn't likely to kill her for her money, as she didn't have any! In 1986 the BBC made a major drama based on the case (with Timothy West as Dr Bodkin Adams), and this prompted many recollections from my gran. They were both born in Northern Ireland and Grannie was a nurse, so I guess they had a lot of common ground. I assume she must have met him through their medical connections. I would love to ask her about him today, but she sadly passed on in 1995. I remember her saying what fun he was - she enjoyed the finer things of life, and I think he spoiled her and took her to nice places. Like many people who knew and liked him, she took the view his actions were more about 'helping people on their way' than cold blooded murder, and assumed more merciful motives than were likely the case! I think he must have had a lot of charm - he was mentioned in 132 wills, and counted many influential people among his clients. Clearly a man people trusted with their lives - sometimes to their detriment!
Wouldn't it be ironic and justice if when Adams broke his hip, dying 4 days later an attending physician helped him on his way and stole his money? I would love to know more about his death and his will.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bodkin_Adams I found out about him because I’ve been looking at his shotgun for sale in an auction . Great video and a truly engrossing story 👍🏴
A great concept & profession. Good to be able to listen like a podcast but also view the photo's, sketches & the like when drifting off to sleep. 73 yrs young. Far too often - start to doze off
A Doctor with no regard for life, pure evil. He seemed to not care for women at all, and prayed on their weaknesses a class a predator. There are a lot of men with this disposition.
Are these available on CD or DVD so my mum can watch them. She has dementia & can't use TH-cam, but when I play these for her she loves them & she is happy when listening to these videos. I'd definitely buy them if I could.
I'm so sorry to hear about your mother, Christine... I wish I was able to help, but in producing these videos I am at the absolute limit of my technical expertise! I suppose it must be possible to download these onto cd - but I don't know how. Perhaps someone else might be able to help - someone with the right kind of internet/technical savvy?
I Romberg this case when I was little girl my mother allsways following the case in the papers my mother allways said he was a very creepy cunning man and allways belived he was giluty till the day she died
Marsha I was always told by my great grandma to NEVER TRUST A DOCTOR. So I always question any treatment I have had and any medicine I have been offered. It has done me well.
I recommend the book The Curious Habits of Dr Adams: A 1950's Murder Mystery by Jane Robins. Unbelievably horrific. Truly shocking and terrifying how the monster doctor Adams continued in practice and escaped justice.
😤 All the way through this guy abused his power and no person could impede his progress until the earth reached up and tripped him (my version, anyway). There have been doctors who’ve purposely administered too much morphia to patients in terrible suffering and facing imminent death, that wasn’t this guy. He tortured his patients before death so much that the final ending was possibly longed for. Taking advantage of the sick or injured, people in their most vulnerable state, and then further degrading them and finally denying them their right to exist... and evading justice by pulling strings-all evil. Wonder what his hospital stay was like, there at the last.... Masterfully evenhanded review of the case by our host!
Thank you - well thought out. I agree - his patients were not suffering and terminal in the way it is understood doctors may take a risk to alleviate suffering, even though such treatment may kill them. They were simply rich people who were of value to him dead...
Yes a real and unsettling parallel between the 2 - when a doctor goes wrong, it can be difficult to spot for a long period. We invest such trust in doctors that we are disinclined to believe that they would do anything but the best they are able to do for us... Occasionally - very rarely, I'm sure - that is not the case...
Totally the NHS and the GMC do thankfully have safeguards in place however If I needed to commit the perfect murder in those days it would be like this xxx
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The worst example of obvious corruption in high places. Thank you for bringing these lesser known cases to light.
Reminds me of the Jimmy Saville case. Some people are untouchable, above the law.
This is an excellent series. Shipman was surely inspired by this man and must have felt himself immune from prosecution.
Many thanks, Mike
This is another story written and narrated by Mr. Maguire that required extensive research and was wonderfully presented.
Thank you, Joan!
Yes, I know, I've already commented an essay-worth but...
When I watched my first episode on this channel I thought,"Cool, another true crime channel" Then I was pleased because you featured crimes that are effectively unknown. Then I was impressed by your research, taken aback to find a real person narrating a *very* well written script...and so it's gone on.
I think though, that all my compliments stem from *one* aspect, and that is, it's like reading a well written true crime book by a knowledgeable, forensically trained author The exacting nature of your reasoning, at the end of each video, is like the last two chapters of good true crime books. You've detailed the murder, used illustrations and court/media documents to show what actually happened, but then you give your viewers the reasoning involved in your saying,"They got away with...".
Each video episode you upload is like a concentrated version of a TC book.
There is one major mystery left...."Why the H don't you have more subscribers? As in, millions more?
Thank you very much, Bilinda - I am quite delighted you have enjoyed my work so much! I shall be well satisfied if the subscribers I have are as appreciative as you are!
He will soon I'm sure!!
@@DP-rx6zf I ran across his videos for the first time 2 days ago. I don't subscribe to just anything but within 3 minutes of watching for the first time I hit subscribe. I have never subscribed so quickly before.
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As you quite rightly say, Mark, a true horror story. The frustration of the detectives investigating his crimes must sometimes have choked them.
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, speaking through his creation Sherlock Holmes, remarked that 'when a doctor goes to the bad he becomes the very worst of criminals', citing Palmer (from my home town) and Cream. It seems he was speaking prophetically.
Yes - very true.
Hardly prophetically. Bad doctors had also been around in Conan Doyle’s time.
Sir Doyle himself was a doctor - on exhuming the body of his wife her hair was examined had quite a dose of arsenic in it. True you can't prove anything after hundred years...
Arthur Conan Doyle himself was a doctor. He was financially unsuccessful as an eye specialist, which was why he resorted to writing fiction. One of Doyle’s medical school professors was the inspiration for Holmes’ methods of observation- the instructor would point out to the students that a patient was, say, a left-handed Freemason who had recently returned from Barbados.
I came across your videos a couple of days ago and have got hooked.
I find this one particularly interesting since I grew up on the outskirts of Randalstown in the 1960s.
I hadn't heard about Adams until now but I do know something of the small but powerful sect to which he belonged - the Plymouth Brethren.
This group had a small meeting hall at Clonkeen, about 3 miles north west of Randalstown, which was built and run by a local merchant.
As one his employees for a time, I got to see how this guy and his flock put their religious faith into practice.
The best way to describe how religious these people were, just think about the American TV series Little House On The Prairie brought into a 20th Century setting. They preached a strict set of rules - no sex outside marriage, always tell the truth, do not steal, do not question authority, etc etc. They even had a rule that no member of the sect was allowed to have a television set in their home. They didn't of course practice what they preached.
The merchant had a fleet of lorries, including at one point in the early 70s two of the heaviest and most powerful trucks in Ireland. There were a few road traffic incidents, involving these vehicles, at least one which resulted in the death of another road user. Strangely none of these ever lead to police investigations or proscecutions.
Many of this congregation were sleeping with each other's spouses. Dishonesty in business was commonplace as was greed and avarice. Most of the flock were quite wealthy, and those who weren't used their connections to catch up with the rest.
Employees were treated like servants, just as in the Bible. - the reason I left and got a job elsewhere.
I wasn't in the least shocked by the story of Dr. Adams. I'd be more surprised if this sect didn't produce many more like him.
Thank you, Michael - that is a fascinating insight into the Plymouth Brethren, of which, I confess, I know very little. I guess any religion that is extreme in its views or the demands it places on its adherents is likely to produce (and attract) a strange kind of follower...
An evil mind of greed and confabulation. The judiciary not only ignored the judicial process but also the common laws. He walked away with guilt and wealth with probable misogynistic smirk of his face.
He took advantage of his trusted position as a dr and of his connections with powerful people - he also liked to play god, I think...
THAT WAS ONE SMIRK THAT SHOULD OF BEEN SLAPPED OFF THE DOCTOR FACE BY ONE THE DEAD PATIENTS RELATIVES.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder A Shipman.... Before Shipman. People held doctors is higher regard then..Not good.
It’s awful to understand that this corruption still persists..
Such tragedies forced on the old and disabled by greedy and ruthless people! They will get their just desserts👹💥🔥?
So true. Gluttony n greed, deadly sins, that never end well. Be good, be blessed. A soul like Dr.Adams, is too heavy(with corruption etc) to rise up-to heaven ever. Way it is.
This is so unbelievable. He was guilty, the crafty man. With too many crafty friends. Disgusting!! Thank you.
Some people have a gift for getting away with it - and some people are well-connected!
VERY DISGUSTING.
THEY RELATIVES SHOULD OF BEEN MORE FORCEFUL WITH ADAMS SO THEY CAN STAY IN THE ROOM WITH THEIR RELATIVES.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder "Follow the money" they say...
I wonder what history will find out about Trump and his henchmen when he is finally out of office! He's getting away with so much!
@@cynk956 Keep your politics to yourself.
The evil that hid behind his warm and kindly outward demeanor, is shocking. Preying on sick and lonely women,smiling ,consoling ,while counting their silver. He will be judged some day, .by the God he said he served.
Wow, how fascinating that his very crimes were allowed to continue.. this left me feeling unsettled. Let’s hope he got justice on the other side.
Thank you Mark.
This guy was a warm up for Harold Shipman. Unlike Adams, Shipman was found guilty. This type of crime is every grown child's nightmae when their parents start to need home care. They become vulnerable to predators such as these doctos.
Very true. And the way the profession closes ranks to protect their own in such cases is disturbing.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Unfortunately the ratio of genuine complaints of malpractice versus the false whinging claims against doctors is what makes the medical profession more likely to disbelieve claims from the public.
@@nomadpurple6154 but shouldn’t the fact that a professional in charge of a vulnerable person benefits from the vulnerable petson in the form of getting an inheritance from the vulnerable person be circumstantial evidences of guilt? I am a lawyer and they taught me in professional ethics NEVER to get any benefit other than my fee from a client, especially a vulnerable one . In fact for lawyers they don’t allow us to even have a contract with an able bodied client that benefits us more than the client! The client can challenge the contract as unconscionable . Why are doctors getting away with it? Wow this is shocking
@@sakhilemathumo-mhodi2901 Ma’am, we are not getting away with “this” because we aren’t doing “this.” The most I have ever accepted from a patient (I am a salaried doctor) has been flowers, handcrafts, cards, and baked goods.
This man practiced in the 1930s - 1950s. I would not be surprised if some few attorneys at that time behaved similarly. Standards of professional behavior for both our professions, and more importantly, the oversight thereof, have definitely improved since then. The access to prescription drugs - especially painkillers - is nowadays very tightly controlled.
Liverpool care plan and madazolin are recent cases of the medical organisations abusing and murdering.
The research that goes into these video essays is frankly staggering. Thank you sir.
So nice of you, Jessica - thank you!
The only two differences I see between Adams and Shipman is: Shipman was a drug addict and he was put in Jail. It just goes to show it's not what you know it's who you know.
It was quite common for physicians and pharmacists to be secret addicts, especially in the old days. Even Humphrey Bogart's dad was a physician who was secretly addicted to opium. It was called "the doctor's disease".
You don’t make any sense
What an evil man! His friends weren’t much better either! 😡😡😡
McMillan was a weak prime minister, in m opinion!
Yes - one of the most disturbing aspects of this case is how immune Dr Adams felt he was: even when police were investigating him, he could continue fiddling prescriptions of dangerous drugs and cremating bodies before they could be examined... Then when prosecutions were set in motion he was able to rely on so many friends in high places, who either supported him, or who were not prepared to risk the scandal of exposing him.
A good USA decision to not approve a visa for that monster. A real sociopath-
with no integrity including sexual. Disgusting- voyeuristic bent, too.
His friends followed mafia tactics in "circling their wagons." The protecting of their own still common even with vets!Most likely, a corrupt Dr. like this would not last long in a medical practice today. There are laws in USA to prevent Dr.s from adminstering certain meds & shots without another med professional as witness. There are more low cost or free advice to seniors re: estate planning & avoiding fraud. Too bad the ugly s.o.b. live til his early eighties. That long sealed documents order was indeed overkill.No doubt the perps wanted to bury the damaging reports long enough for all involved to be dead.
@@ladylibertywdc8324 Yep, and many is the time that a doctor will do something criminal and a fellow medical professional(s), well-knowing what is happening, will be present. The AMA: they take care of their own.
@@ladylibertywdc8324 Bent!! You from living in the past. Gay is much better. So what if he was gay. That didnt matter. He was a serial killer.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Mason.
Although it is, of course, wrong to generalise about this, doctors have always been handed a certain invulnerability due to their powerful governing body and their perceived superior status that all too often breeds a very distasteful form of arrogance. This should change. Doctors are not above any of us. They are public servants and should behave as such, whatever their level of training and expertise and the degree of trust that society puts in them. The fact that they sometimes allow their demigod-like status go to their heads leads to cases such as this one and the Shipman affair.
I agree. Most doctors act with the best of intentions and to the best of their ability, I'm sure. But the General Medical Council often acts to protect doctors rather than regulate them and ensure they are held to account. The BMA is the doctors' trade union, and this has far too much influence, I think. It's certainly a tricky balancing act where doctors are concerned, because, after all, they deal with life and death matters as routine in their day to day jobs; they are required to take tough decisions - even life-threatening ones, and they obviously make mistakes. But the fact that people such as Shipman and Adams were able to get away with so many deaths over a period covering most of their careers, shows that the balance is not quite right.
YES HE SHOULD OF BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
HE GET HIS FOR SURE.
Is it still the case that you can not shop around for a gp in the uk NHS? I moved to Australia in 87 to get away from the class injustices. Here we have a similar system medicare which gives power to the patient to choose.
@@PhilMace Hi Phil, yes you can change doctor easily here now. Most practices have several doctors and although you are nominally "assigned" to one, you can see any of them. In addition, you can switch to another practice as you please. Australia - good move - wonderful country! :)
@@PhilMace Of course you can change doctors
I had to do a double check...I was just listening at first and I thought I accidentally clicked on Harold Shipman. When I checked... I suddenly heard the theme tune to the Twilight Zone in my mind. Shipman and Adams are so similar.
Only their preferred substances seemed to differ. Shipman preferred morphine and heroin, while Adams was more a paraldehyde and barbiturate kind of guy. And the fact that Adams never was punished of course.
Just listened again, Mark. You have a gift for storytelling, and also an analytical approach which puts the case objectively. I love your beautifully structured presentations.
Superb series. Clear and concise without any Hollywood style dramatizations or reenactments with unemployed actors. Excellent legal analysis, insights and perspective. Well researched and presented. Watch them all. Well done Mr. Maguire and thankyou
Thank you very much - I'm delighted you enjoyed them!
Oh my Goodness all these Dr's , it makes you think doesn't it ! Eg. Dr Harold Shipman. It also makes one feel grateful for modern medicine & medications instead of.the old tonics & powders . Though you cannot think ill of the Olden Day Dr's. But his Adams is Horrid. Once again thank you so much for such a professional presentation. Top Quality..
Thank you very much Leanne - yes, I quite agree. We place so much trust in drs that it also makes it especially shocking when they go bad - and they are really in an ideal position to get away with such things!
Still a common problem. In Indiana one of our past governors was a physician. He tied up the legal system here so that it is nearly impossible to declare a doctor made a mistake or error. Even some of the most deplorable cases have been ruled unproven.
The Shipman case was similar: he had a record of dishonesty and misuse of drugs. The GMC allowed him to carry on practicing medicine and we all know where that led. Even then, the government initially wanted the inquiry to be held in private. Plus ça change.
It is ABSOLUTELY SCANDALOUS that the medical community "protect" its members when, frankly, many of those members are unworthy , if not outright criminals! The same with those in the legal community. Shameful & wretched. They've both proven to be unable to self-police.
What the NHS has done over the last 2 years is no different to Adams and Shipman
It's still that way today...same with Government bureaucracies, Political Parties and Law Enforcement.
Makes me wonder how many of those who covered for him (or for each other) were also using or abusing drugs. He may have been, in a sense, a high-status drug dealer for others. He would wield definite power over them, considering the addictiveness of the drugs he was apparently obtaining and doling out.
@@stefc1289 excellent point...abuse was just as bad then as it is today!!
@@SMichaelDeHart I was thinking too of stories of celebrities and their doctors more recently who benefitted financially while continually overprescribing drugs for their wealthy patients... Elvis, Michael Jackson, Howard Hughes, etc. Some of these may get caught more nowadays but the punishment still, if any, is minimal for the doctors involved (Jackson's doctor served less than 3 years).
I’ve only just found you and I’m loving your channel. Your voice is so pleasant and calm to listen to and I’m fascinated by old crimes. Had a bit of a binge of your videos this morning, so I know I’m in for a treat when I hear the match being struck at the start. Thank you for your work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That's very kind, Stephanie - and thank you!
Wonderfully read and paced. I enjoyed all of the information in this video, especially about the needs of certain institutions and the need to withhold information on serious matters. Thank you.
Thank you, April - much appreciated!
I was ten years old at the time of Adams' trial and remember the lurid headlines in the newspapers and the photos of him which frightened me because he looked so sinister. To now discover the corruption amongst people in such trusted positions in public life is truly shocking. I wonder if he was Shipman's inspiration?
I watched them all and am now rewatching. I appreciate your videos, thank you for posting.
Thank you - I am delighted you like them!
This would make a great movie, especially with the powerful, secret lovers that protected Adams.
The story has been dramatised at least once. I think Timothy West played Adams.
I see it was produced by the BBC in 1986, scripted by Richard Gordon of "Doctor in the House" fame, but it could not have included any of the details that came out in 2003 and I don't think the cover-up aspects were included either.
And this is why all institutions need some form of checks and balances. No one individual should have that much authority when it comes to other people's well-being.
And to be re instated as a GP is criminal
The days of doctors being treated like gods ...... Beware any who have so much influence over others , this character was indeed A Doctor Death.
I was diagnosed with lung cancer by a Mayo Clinic MD. I didn't believe him, and refused all treatment. Four years later I found out he had lied, and there isn't a damn thing can be done about it. In the medical profession, it is all about the money.
Never trust a doctor unquestionably.. most believe they’re “above the law”
@@lisamichelle8413 I'd say the same for dentists.
@@lisamichelle8413 So many practice c-section surgeries just for the money.
Greedy, evil bastards.
Due to things like the Liverpool care plan and use of madazolin etc recently I have zero faith in the medical authority, haven't been to a Dr for over 30 years and am no longer registered with any.
Shades of Harold Shipman....
Absolutely - it has been suggested that Shipman may have used Adams as his model; certainly it has drawn obvious comparisons.
My first thought also on hearing this case
Jennifer Holden Evil? No. These people aren’t influenced by imaginary supernatural beings. This comes down to human nature 100%. No Satan involved.
@They Got Away With Murder -
It’s possible that Shipman did it bc he liked the power over life and death. But try to understand that psychopaths don’t feel empathy & they have no conscience. So they don’t NEED a reason or motive. Motive is for “normal” people. It’s been suggested that bc psychopaths don’t “feel” what the rest of us feel that they engage in thrill seeking/edgy behavior bc that may be the only way they feel anything at all. (And thus resort to murder. And then, like an addict they keep chasing the dragon each time they kill again but never achieve the same high they feel with that first kill.
But I think it’s likely they don’t need a motive. Motive is what drives normal people to silence our conscience. Since they don’t have one, they don’t need a reason or motive, at least not one that you or I will ever understand.
Neuroscience is demonstrating that they aren’t like us, physiologically, anyway. The portions of the brain responsible for impulse control, conscience, mood control do not work normally. Is that an excuse? It demonstrates that no amount of treatment will ever make them safe to line in a community. Perhaps some day someone will figure out how to repair that damage but currently the prognosis is very grim.
I still can't find out from those 'in the field' to agree on the differences between psychopathy & sociopathy, don't 'try' to explain, I've heard it all before and it just muddies water that's still dense and hard to see through! You just can't agree on something no one, including professionals, agree's apon!!! Science nor religion will, or has to agree., because neither can ever be perfect no matter how hard we try, we're always going to be fallible
Thank you for a very addictive channel!
I really enjoy the thoroughness of your research and the eloquent presentation of the cases.
Thank you very much!
Sadly, back in the 1940s and 1950s (and before then), gay men were at great risk of being blackmailed, which is what I believe happened with the doctor's powerful friends, accounting for his lifelong Get Out of Jail Free pass.
I'd call this guy the most successful serial killer in history. 163 confirmed kills and was never convicted for any of it.
Has easily been replaced by Dr Fraudci ....
It was estimated that Shipman murdered at least 218 patients and possibly as many as 260.
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Unlike Adams, Shipman's own arrogance led to him.being convicted.
Both Adams and Shipman were true professionals, in that they were well paid for carrying out their crimes and then the grieving families paid to dispose of the victims' bodies.
I grew up Plymouth Brethren in the US (in the 1950's). I practically jumped out of my skin upon hearing of his Plymouth Brethren background. Thank you for this story.
I hope I haven't given the impression that I tarred all the Plymouth Brethren with the same brush! I had no such intention! :)
No worries@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder
I found you a couple days ago! Thank you for these wonderfully told stories! Listening to you talk is wonderful also!
Thank you, Kristie - I;m glad you liked!
These are fantastic, I urge anyone who teaches history, especially legal history, A' level law or a first year LL.B class on English Legal System to assign a few of these to your students! The same for those studying criminology or criminal justice.
There is no dramatic music or cliffhanger questions, that make many documentaries insufferable, as the cliffhanger question usually winds up with a banal answer and the music drowns out what people are saying. These are very well researched (I had read extensively on Bodkin Adams and learned new material) and demonstrate the flaws in English legal process in some cases. In others, they prove true the old adage that "it is better that ten guilty men go free than that one innocent person should suffer".
I cannot recommend these highly enough: BUT, please be sure you post the link for people to watch and don't download to show (even for teaching) as credit must be given where credit is due and also students (and professors, readers, lecturers etc or equivalent overseas) can find and watch more.
QuoVadis - what a charming compliment to be paid! I am very grateful to you indeed for it - thank you!
This may be the most terrifying episode yet. The guy was unstoppable, untouchable, & extremely prolific.
Outstanding -thank you for this excellent,revelatory documentary
Thank you very much, Michael - I greatly appreciate your taking the trouble to let me know!
Excellent channel, The immense amount of work dedicated to the presentation of these cases shines through!!! Thank you for your efforts!
Thank you very much - I am delighted you have enjoyed it! Yes, much work - but very well worth it to know it is appreciated!
I wonder if after he broke his hip did someone else give him a 'hand' in dieing? 🤔
Once again I was completely captivated. Thank you.
So glad you enjoyed it, Penney - thank you.
I fall asleep every time I listen to these videos. Something about your voice puts me out.
You don't know what you're missing.
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Absolutely disgraceful that his contacts aided in the coverup.
The reluctance of the body charged with regulating medical profession have always been reluctant to act against their own - doctors have difficult decisions and are afforded the benefit of the doubt by necessity - but Adams should surely have been brought to book...
Male homosexuality was a crime in 1957. Adams was part of another exclusive, self-protecting group besides the medical profession. His powerful friends had a strong motive for making sure Adams was acquitted - think of the beans he could have spilt.
That's the UK Tory Government for you......and it hasn't changed even today......
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I guess he would make them all look bad, but if they came clean about him they would have looked pretty great.
Hospitals do it to avoid law suits and exhumations and just all kind of mess. They just fire the person. That’s with nurses. Transparency is the last of their goals.
Shocking, a serial killer more sinister than Dr Shipman. Your delivery, scripts and research are absolutely the most professional I’ve experienced on YT. You deserve to be a YT superstar with millions of subscribers. Please keep up the great work.
Your comment made me smile, Madame - I am delighted you think so highly of them: thank you!
I wonder if Dr Harold Shipman got his own murderous ideas from this case
He is frequently compared to Shipman - it's especially chilling when a doctor, whom we place enormous trust in, turns bad!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Shipman was about 12 or 13 when this case came to trial. The methods were also the same, injection, home visits, worked on his own, got left things in wills, mostly women killed too
@@julieblackstock8650 Yes, that's true - very similar MO...and Shipman got away with it for a very long time also.
@@DP-rx6zf He was a physician also. It makes sense that his methods would be similar or even exactly the same whether he knew this case or not.
This made me so angry
How easily a corrupt bunch of gits can get away with murder is frightening. ( a brilliant channel by the way) .
Many thanks!
My jaw dropped and stayed dropped for a long time at around 16 minutes.
Coincidentally, I’ve just listened to this (again!), on the anniversary of Adams’ death, the 4th July,
An amazing story, especially the fact of Adams’ influential lovers!
Thank you again Mark👏👏👏
Thanks, Jules - it is!
Is this where Harold Shipman got his ideas from even before Shipman was mentioned in this video I already thought it sounds like another Shipman .You can’t trust your own doctor!!!!
I do think Adams and Shipman were rare creatures, Christine...
Same here, I thought the same 🤔😔
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder well, as long as you think so, we can all be sleep save in our beds 😎🙏🙏🙏
Excellently done, as usual, Mr. Maquire!
10/10 Mark..A riveting documentery. Thanks for uploading these gems.
Many thanks indeed, Peter.
Ahh another delightfully spooky tale done with excellence! Thank you for this ❤️ my friend
Thank you, Sandra! You are so kind! :)
It’s interesting that both he and Alistair Crowley were born into the Plymouth Brethren.
The Plymouth Brethren is a very strict, apocalyptic sect. For being a rather small movement, the Plymouth Brethren has produced a lot of very interesting people (not all of them criminals).
This channel is good..the best on TH-cam..
Ah, thank you very kindly, Susan!
Yes it is!
Well done videos, his voice and narrative skills are the best of the best.
Agree totally Susan, I am a great fan since discovering Marks channel. He is so talented! x
Total Greed. At this time I was 13 years old and remember this.
Wow...I am legit lost for words. The twist and turns.
Many thanks, Gloria!
Absolutely brilliant study of this case, best I've seen. Funny he died days after breaking his hip, was it the pain medication, you think?
Thank you, Sue - that would be ironic!
This is the most appalling of the cases I have listened to so far. So many amoral people in law enforcement and the legal and medical communities who couldn't care less about people being murdered. I wonder if Adams was also a blackmailer.
Yay! I found one I missed.
Keep up this good work and you'll get sponsors!
And we all know sponsors mean money!
Thank you! I am doing the best I can - it all takes time, but I have no plans to quit just yet!
Chilling. Just Chilling. Thank you for another impeccably presented and researched video essay.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Corruption at the highest levels.
And we are shocked at the same today in politics, social media, etc. Nothing changes much except the scope of their corruption and influence is vastly larger. (And I don't mean doctors)
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Thank you for this one. I have been looking for this case for a while.
The BMA have so much to answer for. If Adams had been caught, Shipman wouldn’t have got away with his mass murder. Fascinating summing up. Gripping true horror. Thank you
I thought Dr. Death was the worst! Boy, was I wrong.
More please. I know it's alot of work but some of us can't get enough of your stories! Thank you! "Truth is strange-stranger than fiction"-Byron. NOTE: This peed me off the most. Adams shld have been fried.
What a monster!!! Shipman too!!!
Brilliantly researched and read and produced. Puts the detritus made by US/UK true crime dramas with $100,000 budgets to shame. Hope he diversifies into other crime cases.
Many thanks, Brian!
I would LOVE to know the background of Adam's childhood. A sociopathic serial killer, especially of this caliber, had to have some tell tale signs as a young person.
I feel this was the part that was missing from this excellent telling of the story.
There's a podcast of Spotify named "Medical murders"....they explain his childhood as well, u might want to listen to that
A homosexual killing older women...his mother probably abused him or kept silent while her husband did. Or maybe I watch to much true crime.
@judibiggerstaff8054 It could have been his strict religious upbringing and sexual orientation that caused a mental illness in him. It could've just as easily been he was a monster who loved wealth.
It's a real pleasure listening to mark john maguire.i truly appreciate professionally done mystery. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, Rick - thank you.
Way back in the beginning, when you said Adams had been bequeathed the Rolls Royce, I thought, Gee whiz, Harold Shipman was a poor man's version of this guy. I'm nearly at the end, and that thought has repeated over and over. But, definitely, if Shipman was inspired by Adams, he doesn't seem to have learned much from someone who might be his spirit guide. Certainly as far as how not to get caught, he goofed. After all, original suspicion of Shipman came because.of the number of cremations orders for which he wanted co-signers. *And* the wheels came off when he tried to actually forge a will, not just getting left money, or pocketing valuables.
(Later PS edit- guess what came up next in auto-play? Yep, the doco about Shipman)
I'm on my fourth one of these today. So apparently I have a new addiction. I have a feeling I might as well set up some sort of robo-comment, saying wow, what detailed research, wonderful script writing and narration, because otherwise I'm going to lose valuable watching time trying to think of different ways to say it. So, ya know, take it as given.
Oh, and I love the drawings. Are they what's called pen and ink? Or used to be? You can tell I have no artistic skills "but I do know what I like"! There's only a couple where I can see there's a signature but I can only view via my phone atm. However, I can visualise you thinking"Rats, there's no photos or newspaper clippings for this bit, need to offer a visual....oh well, if you want something done right..."
In the comment scrolling I've done, nobody seems to have mentioned them, but their aptness makes it almost certain they're your own, so kudos on yet another aspect of these wonderful productions.
Thank you, Bilinda - I am glad my efforts are not wasted! Yes, the similarities with Shipman are startling - I often wonder why murderers make facile errors when they commit their crimes; errors which will probably be their undoing. I have concluded it is like a kind of colour blindness: their view of reality is skewed and they simply see their crime through a prism of their own devising. The drawings are usually done with black india ink - sometimes the multimedia paper is given a light watercolour wash to give a sepia tone, so the it "fits in" with the period! Many thanks again for your kind comment.
Fantastic TGAWM you go all the way clear n interesting thanks from Leeds Uk 😍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏new on this n watched all waiting for next exciting case 👏👏👏
Thank you, Suzanna - I'm delighted you enjoyed it!
Thank you!! keep me very entertained ! Saturday, just got from work and really love the way is presented...is just going back on time , the history is very rich and well documented!
Thank you very much, Sandra - I am most grateful!
Informative channel to listen to whilst I am knitting, the narrators voice is perfect.
Thank you!
So the main differences between this case and Shipman are that it was an age where doctors were revered and he had friends in high places. It makes you wonder how many more doctors down the ages may have got away with murder. Even nowadays it's only unusual trends in death rate that draw attention to authorities. Like this nurse in the UK now: attention was drawn to her because the death rate in her ward was so much higher than the average. She could have got away with one or 2 murders without any eyebrows being raised.
Doctors do still revere themselves....
I've only recently stumbled across your channel and, of all your narratives, this one is the most disturbing. What an horrifc miscarriage of justice.
Loving your presentation and scrupulously researched essays. Thank you.
Just love these stories. Excellent. Professional and could listen to his voice forever, thanks for these. They're brilliant 👏
That's so nice of you, Patricia - thanks!
Having from 1969,till present time been brought up in Eastbourne, & familiar with the Bolton Rd practice, this is very interesting take
Mark your videos are all fantastic thank you so much. I meant to comment ages ago about Bodkin Adams. I knew a lovely Doctor years ago Hector Jordan who practiced at the same surgery for a time & he told me he thought Adams was guilty. Its interesting too, that Theresa May's father was the Chaplain at All Saints Hospital Eastbourne when many of Adams patients died & the two new each other reasonably well apparently. Dr John Surtees book about Adams is well worth a read.
Trust nobody. Do your own due diligence. If you cannot trust the Lord Chief Justice who can your trust.
Indeed!
GOD & JESUS CHRIST.
Helpful Rule of Thumb.
I find it difficult to watch shows where people get away with murder. I like to see justice served.
Excellent documentary, bravo. My late grandmother was befriended by Dr Bodkin Adams when she moved to Eastbourne in the 1960s. She was a glamorous, vivacious divorcee - though not a wealthy one - and he would take her out for meals and on Sunday drives. He was 10 years older and proposed marriage to her, but she declined - we used to tease her that she should have accepted and become a wealthy widow!
I've often pondered his marriage proposal, in view of the fact he was gay. I can only surmise he craved a conventional, respectable lifestyle, and perhaps thought reinventing himself as a husband would help him overcome the social stigma of his murder trial.
He used to take her teenage son out for driving lessons in his Rolls Royce, which caused a lot of curtain-twitching! Grannie was of course aware of his history, but as he was not her doctor and she enjoyed his company as a friend only, it didn't worry her. She knew he wasn't likely to kill her for her money, as she didn't have any!
In 1986 the BBC made a major drama based on the case (with Timothy West as Dr Bodkin Adams), and this prompted many recollections from my gran. They were both born in Northern Ireland and Grannie was a nurse, so I guess they had a lot of common ground. I assume she must have met him through their medical connections. I would love to ask her about him today, but she sadly passed on in 1995.
I remember her saying what fun he was - she enjoyed the finer things of life, and I think he spoiled her and took her to nice places. Like many people who knew and liked him, she took the view his actions were more about 'helping people on their way' than cold blooded murder, and assumed more merciful motives than were likely the case! I think he must have had a lot of charm - he was mentioned in 132 wills, and counted many influential people among his clients. Clearly a man people trusted with their lives - sometimes to their detriment!
Always fascinating to have such personal anecdotes - thank you!
I love your brilliant series and your soothing voice!
Thank you very much, Clarissa!
Wouldn't it be ironic and justice if when Adams broke his hip, dying 4 days later an attending physician helped him on his way and stole his money? I would love to know more about his death and his will.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bodkin_Adams
I found out about him because I’ve been looking at his shotgun for sale in an auction . Great video and a truly engrossing story 👍🏴
A great concept & profession. Good to be able to listen like a podcast but also view the photo's, sketches & the like when drifting off to sleep. 73 yrs young. Far too often - start to doze off
Thank you, Mike!
They got away with murder....On Earth...
One can only hope...
A Doctor with no regard for life, pure evil. He seemed to not care for women at all, and prayed on their weaknesses a class a predator. There are a lot of men with this disposition.
Look in the mirror.
Are these available on CD or DVD so my mum can watch them. She has dementia & can't use TH-cam, but when I play these for her she loves them & she is happy when listening to these videos. I'd definitely buy them if I could.
I'm so sorry to hear about your mother, Christine... I wish I was able to help, but in producing these videos I am at the absolute limit of my technical expertise! I suppose it must be possible to download these onto cd - but I don't know how. Perhaps someone else might be able to help - someone with the right kind of internet/technical savvy?
I Romberg this case when I was little girl my mother allsways following the case in the papers my mother allways said he was a very creepy cunning man and allways belived he was giluty till the day she died
Marsha I was always told by my great grandma to NEVER TRUST A DOCTOR. So I always question any treatment I have had and any medicine I have been offered. It has done me well.
I recommend the book The Curious Habits of Dr Adams: A 1950's Murder Mystery by Jane Robins. Unbelievably horrific. Truly shocking and terrifying how the monster doctor Adams continued in practice and escaped justice.
Who was it who said, 'All professions are a conspiracy against the laity'?
I don't know but they surely had a point!
😤 All the way through this guy abused his power and no person could impede his progress until the earth reached up and tripped him (my version, anyway). There have been doctors who’ve purposely administered too much morphia to patients in terrible suffering and facing imminent death, that wasn’t this guy. He tortured his patients before death so much that the final ending was possibly longed for. Taking advantage of the sick or injured, people in their most vulnerable state, and then further degrading them and finally denying them their right to exist... and evading justice by pulling strings-all evil. Wonder what his hospital stay was like, there at the last.... Masterfully evenhanded review of the case by our host!
Thank you - well thought out. I agree - his patients were not suffering and terminal in the way it is understood doctors may take a risk to alleviate suffering, even though such treatment may kill them. They were simply rich people who were of value to him dead...
Think the " angel maker" is Britain's most prolific serial killer with an estimated 400+ .
So Dr Adams had several influential lovers. How could they resist him? The man was an Adonis!
Yes, it seems men are only 'visual creatures' when it comes to judging women.
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This doctor loved a Rolls Royce motor car.
Very classy car
Vroom vroom!!! Well worth a human life. 🤦🏼♀️
RR does have the best hood ornament.
It sounds so much like Harold Shipman's case
Yes a real and unsettling parallel between the 2 - when a doctor goes wrong, it can be difficult to spot for a long period. We invest such trust in doctors that we are disinclined to believe that they would do anything but the best they are able to do for us... Occasionally - very rarely, I'm sure - that is not the case...
Totally the NHS and the GMC do thankfully have safeguards in place however If I needed to commit the perfect murder in those days it would be like this xxx
Some times it's good not being able to afford 'real medical care'.😎
I'm an U.S. Army Vet and have the VA.
@@Pluggit1953 Haha 👏🏻👏🏻no pun in the clap of the hands emoji🇮🇪🧚♂️☘