At one point, Iraqi Kurdistan seemed to be one of the world's most stable and prosperous de facto states. While it hadn't declared independence, many saw it as a state in waiting and a country in all but name. However, today, the picture is very different. So, do you really think it is in danger of collapsing? And, if not, are any hopes for an independent Kurdistan now over? As ever, let me know your thoughts and comments below.
Mate as a Kurd there are many things that need to be looked at, first it all depends on the international equations. Iran nowadays does its best to fall the Kurdish government through its allies in Iraq and The US 🇺🇸 is silent as of this moment. Besides that, in Iraq Sunnies also want their own region. We have to wait until war happens which is something that I can smell its odour.
Die Kurden in Nordiraq haben sich mit dem Referandum bzgl. Unabhängigkeit mit der Türkei und Iran komplett verscherzt. Barzani Clan ist koorupt und nach meiner Ansicht nicht in der Lage ein Land aufzubauen und zu führen. Die kurzsichtige Politik der irakischen Kurden unter Barzani hat sie in diese politische Sackgasse geführt. Sie haben in ihrem Bestreben unabhängig zu werden ihre Abhängigkeit von der Türkei und Iran komplett vergessen bzw. nicht berücksichtigt. Die Türkei ist der Zugang der irakischen Kurden an die Außenwelt. Die Kurden hatten den Erdölverkauf eingestellt, jetzt verkaufen sie wieder. Die Türkei hatte als Reaktion den Flughafen von Erbil de facto gesperrt. Die Kurden haben nunmehr erkannt, daß sie gar nicht so stark sind, wie sie gedacht hatten. Die Türkei und Iran werden niemals einen kurdischen Staat an ihren Grenzen zulassen, koste was es wolle. Wie sehr die Türken diese These unterstützen sehen wir durch die Angriffe der türkischen Luftwaffe in Nordsyrien und Nordiraq. Sie werden mit einer Autonomie leben müssen, das gilt solange wie die irakische Zentralregierung (unter dem Einfluß der Iraner) das zuläßt.
@@zakariyashakir4091 Kurdistan is an unfinished thing of WW1. From India we can say when ur Kurds group & 40 million kurds yezidis will not be scattered & divided in different political groups with different agendas. Formation of Kurdistan will become easier. But u needs to keep good relations with Assyrians & Bedouins. Bcs neither Arabs in Mesopotamia nor Turks of anatolia or Iranians will be happy about it. Bcs present Iran is actually Arab turks mixers. U & Armenians r only Aryans there & Bedouins Assyrians r non arab turks in the region.
@@zakariyashakir4091 we have a strategy for ur Kurdistan. Declaring Iraqi region independence will not help Kurds, bcs Iraq is ur gateway to gulf ocean. Ur main obstruction is Turkey Iran & Arabs. So those region needs to be independent Kurdistan & Iraq region should remain as autonomous for sea access of anatolia region independent Kurdistan by keeping good rapport with Assyrians of Iraq.
I as a Kurd who live in Kurdistan region of iraq, i can say that our problem as the Kurdish nation, is not our surrounding countries. The only problem is KDP and PUK.
Well it isnt exactly correct, the two rival parties are accountable for many of our problems of course, and they are the reason of the KRG to be weaker after all that support from the western allies, but the enemies surrounding us are also undeniably a big factor on that
well that´s not correct at all ,if those two paries are the only reason for our problems in kurdistan region then what about other parts of Kurdistan? as we all now our situation in kurdistan region is much better than other parts of Kurdistan.
as a Kurd i have to say your type of ideology, is the only cancer that kills our dream to have an only state, and this F ideology is condemned who don’t agree with you, you must accept diversity to lead others….
Thanks for the video. In my opinion, the main problem is that the two Kurdish parties and peshmerga forces cannot unite, this paves the way to unstability in the long term since our allies can’t rely on us for their plans
Thanks. There is certainly a lot to this argument. It’s interesting and important that other viewers, including from the region, have really emphasised this point.
Because your presidents, Barzani and Talabani families, are betraying the Kurds. They work for the invaders. Barzani and Talabani work only for their personal and family purposes. They are deceiving the Kurds. Barzani family is Turkey's toy. Talabani is Iran's toy.Kurds need to unite and act together with America and Israel...
You political parties are more corrupt than ours in Baghdad. They promise so much yet they don't deliver. How come that they want to create a state but cannot pay monthly salary! They're a bunch of clowns
Because your presidents, Barzani and Talabani families, are betraying the Kurds. They work for the invaders. Barzani and Talabani work only for their personal and family purposes. They are deceiving the Kurds. Barzani family is Turkey's toy. Talabani is Iran's toy.Kurds need to unite and act together with America and Israel...
I was actually in Iraq (2016-17) working as a journalist for a local news agency. what I can say about KRG is, it is unfortunate that the people there are represented by KDP and PUk, both parties are mind bogglingly coropt
Turkey will never allow an independent Kurdistan even if it incorporates only lands in Iraq, because they know it will embolden Kurds in Turkey to eventually join.
I 100 percent agree with the Kurds. I think they should have their own state, but, I know how Turks play, they will do some very wicked things to other countries, so no one will support the Kurds. @@LeftWingNationalist
@@LeftWingNationalistdude literally. These same people say Russians in Europe cannot decide to rejoin Russia, but a group of people in the middle east try to do so, they support it. It's alarming how people are so accustomed to hypocrisy and double standards.
Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria may differ in everything, but there is a permanent agreement on the non-establishment of a Kurdish state between them. Secondly, the economy of the Kurdistan region depends on Baghdad and Ankara by 90% through oil, tourism and commodity trade
You have misunderstood something...Turkey gave up these lands on the condition that these lands would not be divided, otherwise Turkey would have claim to these areas again. This has nothing to do with a Kurdish state, it is simply better if it stays as it is, for everyone.
@@yaxshibala Turkey, after the collapse of the Ottoman empire could not have hung onto its domains. The proverbial Pandora's box (nationalism) had been opened during WW1. All UK, France, Soviet Union would have had to do would be to fund and arm rebels -- The easiest way to obtain power and influence within a territory.
@@reberbakir2126In the Ankara agreement signed between the British, Iraqis and Turks in 1926, Turkiye has the right to intervene in Iraq's Mosul and Kirkuk provinces in case Iraq is divided or in danger of division. Actually, this happened in the 90s, but the West created terrorists like the PKK and prevented Turkiye. The first thing the terrorists did was to attack Mosul oil, now the oil is going to America, meaning the rights of Iraq and Turkiye are being stolen.
America really chose a small organization over its strongest NATO ally Turkey. If every minority deserves a country. We expect Native Americans in the great lakes, and also a state for black people around Atlanta!!
The indigenous people were colonized before the institution of the modern concept of self-determination. Meanwhile, Kurdish independence was born in the context of Wilson's 14 points and the establishment of national determination. I know these uncomfortable truths unsettled Turks who blindly follow Erdogan, but those are the facts.
@@FightXScience-wh6kx I don't follow the logic here. The Kurds had been subjugated as part of a Turkish Ottoman state since far before the indigenous peoples of America were colonized.
@@yarsaz4347 The Ottomon Empire no longer exists. It was dismantled precisely with the institution of the concept of self-determination and Wilson's 14 point plan. That is when the Kurds began their independence movement....not coincidentally
@@FightXScience-wh6kx The Kurds are an Iranian ethnic group therefore they already have their own state. They are not native to Anatolia, they were nomadic groups who came from Iran. If self determination means having their own state then they already have it. They can join their Iranian brethren in Rojhelat. Notice how Wilson's plan never involved Rojhelat.
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Dear James. I follow your videos carefully to understand seemingly complex geopolitical issues. But why don't you make a clear distinction between armed struggle and acts of terrorism. The PKK is a terrorist organization that has been established since 1979 with the aim of carrying out long-term and consistent acts of terrorism. It is an armed terrorist organization modeled on the revolutionary terrorist activity initiated by Mao Zedong. They themselves have already stated this. The PKK is on the list of terrorist organizations in many countries. I think it is important to mention this detail when approaching the events. it will not offend them. Because they are the ones who proudly announce this to the public after their terrorist activities. Just like other terrorist organizations like Daesh and Al-Qaeda, they gather supporters through this activity. In fact, they recently burned 4 people to death in a terrorist act in Germany. They have killed thousands of civilians with suicide bombings in major metropolises in Turkey. I wish you good work with love.
Thanks. You make an important point. Like many others, I am not sure that it helps to refer to groups as terrorist organisations. They may carry out acts of terror, but many will argue that their aims are legitimate. And we get back to the problem that designating a group a terrorist organisation is highly subjective. For example, across Europe and the United States, many are appalled by Hamas, and rightly so. But while they call it a terrorist organisation, and it banned, many in Turkey (including the government) argue that it is not. It is a legitimate group fighting for Palestinian rights. Now, I know that you would draw a difference between Hamas and the PKK, but many wouldn’t. And this is the issue. If I called one terrorist and not the other then I am naturally accused of bias. In this sense it is better to refer to both groups as insurgent organisations. This is acceptable as a definition, even if its doesn’t go as far as some would like.
I have to say this as a Kurd. Kurds' efforts to become a state are local and not unanimous. It is a situation used by big powers for their own interests. I hope that one day an independent Kurdish state can be established.
@@bunjijumper5345If you look at Kurds in Turkey many already kind of "gave up“ on the idea of an own state, they just want their language, culture etc. to be respected and to be presented fairly in the political spectrum. However the opinions of Kurds in Turkey differ of course. Some do want independence and some don‘t.
@@bilic8094 Haven't been there in a while but it depends where in any city you go. Certain parts are beautiful and safe while others are the polar opposite
@@solsolsolomon It was right by camden yards the baseball stadium I've never been to Baltimore before but I thought it would look alot better since the stadium is really nice I thought the area would be also but quite the opposite.
It is disappointing how standards for independence vary widely depending on who wishes to declare it or had already done so. Kurdistan’s efforts were snuffed immediately with a concerted efforts of all their neighbors as well as the US, while Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence was welcomed, encouraged and recognized by many. The situation and circumstances in the two are not the same but there are some stark similarities. Double-triple-quadruple standards of some major international players never seize to amaze me. Localized interests of the big guns always trump the interests of the people in question.
I know what you mean but the fact the US had no intention to intervene on behalf of Kosovo before the world found out about the ethnic cleansing and war crimes going on in the region, most targeting the Albanian populations in Kosovo
If I were a Jew living in US I would not say I'm stateless. If it is a problem for me to accept US as my home state then I would immediately immigrate to Israel. Kurds can establish 100 states if they wish and they can but they cannot deny they are Iranian. You have already a state. If I were a Kurd living in an Arab country or in Turkey and if that bothered me I would directly fly to Iran, not do bla bla and disturb other peoples.
It's sad that a people has suffered throughout histonry,a people left to their own fate! Kurdish people surrounded by very aggressive neighbour's.Non-Kurd. Love and respect ❤ Kurdish people.
Es lebe Freiheit und Frieden in Kurdistan🏳️🏴✌️🏳️🏴wir waren schon immer alleine im Stich gelassen. Wir haben einen Spruch dazu: no Friedens but the Mountains
America only supports the Kurds who are fighting in Syria. Support for Kurds in Iraq will be complicated. Because the current relationship with the Iraqi government can be said to be not good but also not bad. If there is another conflict in Iraq, domestic politics in the United States will be volatile, because American intervention in Iraq has always drawn criticism from the people of the United States after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Support for the Kurds in Iraq will lead to a new war that will not be profitable for the United States. If there are too many wars in a region, it is feared that the United States will create a situation that is likely to be out of control in the future. Apart from that, the war in Syria is not over yet. Rojava is still fighting and expanding its territory. There is no form of US support for a region that wants independence that does not cause instability. Apart from that, the relationship between southern Kurdistan (Basur) and western Kurdistan (Rojava) is not very clear what it will be like. Many people already know, through anthropological research spread across social science journals on the internet, that why the Kurds have never been united is that sentiments between sub-tribes within the Kurds themselves are not very harmonious. My guess is that US support seems to be going to the northern Kurds. Because everyone knows that America doesn't like Erdogan. Or maybe surprisingly the US will helps the Kurds in the east in Iran. The instability of the Turkish region seems to be a more priority for the US after the Syrian war than having to help the Kurds in Iraq. Re-creating instability in Iraq, which 12 years ago was at war with the US, seems impossible or that it would be the last option for the US. YPG and Rojava have strong relations in the Syrian war and terror in Turkiye. This can be seen where the terror of city bombings in Türkiye emerged.
The function of the Kurds for America is only to destabilize Islamic countries. Coincidentally, the Kurds have always wanted independence. Meets the interests of the United States to divide Islamic countries.
This is sad to hear. I haven’t followed Kurdistan much in the last two years so to know so much has declined in such a short time is disheartening. At one point, Erbil was the place I wanted to visit most in the Middle East/West Asia. I hope they can turn things around.
As an Iraqi born Kurd, living in the US, I can assure you that Erbil is very much safe. Most of the major cities like Suleimani and Duhok are also safe, provided you have a basic grasp of common sense--as you do in every other country across the world. I just finished visiting family there and returned a few months ago.
man i feel sorry for Kurdistan that's sad i though somaliland were in bad situation well Kurdistan is way worst in somaliland our op is somalia we speak the same language we are technically one imagne fighting 4 diffrent country that's sad asf
Unlike Christian minorities, Kurds were not promised independence. The option was a British mandate. When Turkey proposed a plebicit for North Iraq in Laussane, Lord Curzon famously said “how can Kurds decide, they would eat the papers”. I have no clue how this is supposed to be funny.
Actually Iran and Turkey although rivals are challenging USAs position in the region. They do this in cooperation with Russia and possibly with China as the player behind the curtain. Kurdish government in Iraq and now YPG in North Syria/Rojava are seen as an obstacle to achieve this goal since both are somewhat considered as US allies. Iran wants to create a Shiite belt from Iran to Iraq to Syria while Turkey wants to benefit from the power vacuum by weakening USA in the region.
Great to see that this never materialized, the last thing we needed in this region was a new client state of the West and Tel Aviv. The Kurdish leadership, like the Zionists, mentally live in the 90’s thinking that only the colonialist West (mainly the US) are the ones with any clout in the world, and if they only do Washington’s and Tel Aviv’s bidding they’ll get a “country of their own” based on stolen oil from the original states to which they belong (like Iraq). Well, the world has changed and the West is finally and fortunately in decline while other countries in the Global South are up and coming. My advice, stop working for the Western colonialists who care nothing about you and make friends with your countrymen. All countries have minorities and we should all work together against Western imperialism instead of fighting each other thus allowing the West to divide and conquer. Arab, Turk, Iranian and Kurd could be allies and build a better future in our own region, free from genocidal and resource stealing Western colonialists.
Great video! I've not been following Kurdistan closely in the last year, but I'm not that surprised to hear how bad things are getting. The corruption and human rights situation is terrible from what I've heard, but the government was able to maintain control because of its control of oil revenue. Without this, I think that most of the power structures will eventually collapse. 😢
Thank so much, Fredo. It is incredibly to see what has happened to Iraqi Kurdistan. At one point it seemed so stable and was lauded as a bastion of democracy in the region. It does seem on its way to becoming a failed de facto state. By the way, I loved your most recent YT short. Who’d have thought Estonia had a separatist kingdom!? 😀
💡 Perhaps the only solution to Kurdistan at this point is to play all the selfish neighbors & interntional community by doing exactly like what Nigerian army has been doing with boko haram for decades. Keep ISIS threat alive to force everyone to rush with little limit to help Kurdistan to fight them forever🤏
@@duran9664 ur absolutely right. That's the game is going on. ISIS means Salafi group. Al Qaeda is wahabi group. Even if they finish ISIS, then al Qaeda will be thrown at Kurds.
I voted Yes in the independence referendum, not because I though anything good will come out if it but because the Kurdish leadership had put me in a position that I had no other choice. I could never vote no for statehood or not vote, it’s such an ancient and sacred dream for us that it cannot be played with, but unfortunately the Kurdish leadership and specifically Masoud Barzani did, purely for his immediate personal political interest. As a result of that referendum, we lost 1/3 of the land we controlled, it destroyed any trust, even little, we had built with surrounding nations and of course we had to nullify the referendum results anyways at the end.
@watup3494 я начал изучать нашу Курдскую историю и понял вес ближний восток это Курдски земли от Дамаска до Багдада это Курдские земли Братья мой поймите одно вместе мы сила по одиночку мы не кто.
You are a big lier . We as Kurds, we all voted Yes for independence regardless to any other reasons. And we are going forward for independency. Live longer you will see !!
@watup3494don't spread lies! Baghdad was NEVER a Kurdish city. It was built by al-Mansur, an Arab caliph. Baghdad in Persian means "Bestowed by God" but the name predates even kurds and even persian as its been found present in Old Babylonian and Aramaic. Stick to your mountains and stop trying to steal other people's history
Lands of Turkmens were given to Kurds in northern Iraq . There should be region Turkmen administration in northern Iraq , in Mosul, Kirkuk and Tel Afar areas.
As Arabic speaking Iraqi and mixed ethnicity origin Arab Kurd Turk and Persian I am Iraqi And if the kurd want to be independent in their region border according to the UN in 1991 It’s okay with me and with 90% of Iraqi population But taking land of Iraqi Turkman, Assyrian, Yazidi, Shabak, Sunni Arab and Shia Kurd (Lur) that’s will not happened now or in future And we will definitely protect our Iraqi brothers (Turkmen, Yazidi, Assyrian, Sunni Arab and Shia Kurd ) and there land
@@RJH8770So why should there be 22 arab ethnostates? What a retarded comment. Northern Iraq is almost 100% Kurdish. Also ezidis (yazidi is a slur) are Kurds, I am ezidi. The only natives except Kurds are Assyrians and I think they would much rather prefer us than Arabs tbh.
@@quzunarqozi5171 because there's no such thing as an "Arab ethnostate" outside of the gulf and Kurds don't have the mental bandwidth to see the world outside of ethnic line (your comment is proof). Majority of Northern Iraqis are mixed and are mainly Mesopotamian Arab (indigenous people of Iraq mixed with Arab) and Northern Iraq isn't even 100% kurdish and they only reason they (abd yazidis) ended up there in the first place is because of population transfer policies during the Ottoman and Safavid empires. Otherwise both peoples are native to Iran and they're welcome to go back there instead of trying to steal other people's lands. I'm sure the Assyrians would especially appreciate that vs having their lands squatted by and getting massacred by ethnically cleansed by an Iranic people.
Corruption is the single largest contributor to KRG downfall. About the oil case, they argued they are entitled to 100% profit from their oil territory sale plus revenue sharing from what Iraq’s central government. They were tolerated for too long.
I'll tell you why that happens,the slow backdrop of the US from middle east made Iran more powerful I'm iraq which means the central government of Iraq,while previously Kurdistan was ruling Iraq,civil unrest,and being surrounded by enemies on all 4 fronts doesn't help either.
4:34 :))))) Unfortunately, you are mistaken, as the Kurdistan Region of Iraq is not a democratic territory because it is controlled and ruled by only two families, the Barzani and Talabani tribes. They have built significant wealth from the resources of the Kurdish people who still suffer from the aggression of Saddam and its ilk.
I think the current state of "Kurdistan" and the Kurdish population across the middle east is indicative of the short term thinking of US foreign policy. Had it not been for the Kurdish forces supporting local and international authorities against ISIS the new country may have been their, yet they were immediately ignored and isolated as they have been so many times not because they are a threat but because they are not !!
Please do your research regarding Kurds fighting against ISIS, I am a Kurd from Arbil if it wasn't for Kurds fighters from Rojava this region would be under ISIS control this is a paid PR by the Barzani family to make them look good until you live there and work with the locals you have no idea the miseries they deal with the those clans who control the region.
@@GHOSTYTRT I am confused sir, I stated that the reason ISIS were stopped was because of Kurdish troops. I personally don't get into the micro geopolitics of regions but I consider "Kurdistan" to stretch beyond and between borders in the region when I talk about your people. You live in the area so I certainly won't disagree with you and I in no way meant to downplay the Kurdish people or their right to sovereignty.
@@EamonCoyle My apologies for my disrespect, I am among many who Kurds who are has grown tired of dealing with corruption while the west allows these Kurdish tribes to rule the region without any prior experience or education. It is so bad in Kurdistan that prostitutes have more power than the court, Barzani family pay these prostitutes to spy for them and use them against those who are not happy with them.
@@EamonCoyle I agree with your view generally, and I wish the Kurds finally got their own state. However, you have to think of the ramifications of what you're proposing for the US: they would get to carve a sovereign state (Iraq) unilaterally?
@@Kapito13 An absolutely valid point, hard to cover all the bases in a comment but my view would be that the decision of how and where the Kurdish state should be is something for the region. The west as far back as 1914 have been making half hearted and half informed decisions that have destroyed the middle east and should let them decide their own fate be it good or bad.
KRG, KDP, PUK are as corrupt as it gets. What we need is an influential leader who the people of Kurdistan will fully back. As a Kurd living in the states, what I see from the Barzani family is nothing short of nepotism.
Kurd are iranin. Why. Iran is idea live in harmony.evry nations Iran in the past safe for good life. Iran idea. Live together any languages and any religion. That's why called Iran living together All tribes. Iran safe all nations from dictator And free slives
I'm Iranian Kurdish nationalist, and we'll not give our land to you separatists. Read some history and accept the fact that all of Kurdistan belongs to Persia. Long Live Iran 💚🤍❤️🦁☀️
Wrong. Türkiye has very good relations with the autonomous Kurdish state in Iraq. However, Türkiye is against the disruption of Iraq's territorial integrity. Most Kurds in Turkey do not want independence and prefer to live in western Turkey. Istanbul is the Turkish city with the largest Kurdish population.
Same here bud, they have fought so hard for freedom and they get absolutely nothing in return.. this is why I want the Russia-Ukraine war to finally end since it has been stalling sooo many independence movements around the globe.
There is no ethnic distinction in Turkey. There are people from 72 nationalities in Turkey, no one cares what ethnicity or religion they are. Kurds have served as presidents, prime ministers, ministers, chiefs of general staff, and army commanders, and continue to do so. The first head of the founding government was Kurdish. The problem is that the colonial western states are trying to weaken the region. Different ethnic and religious groups live in every state in the world.
Honestly, I am starting to hate international borders and the insistence of international actors that 1945 borders can never ever be changed, even if that means that large minorities can never attain any statehood. Imagine there would be no Ukraine because international actors would say that Ukraine is Russia because of past borders being drawn that way. Or imagine that Italy never had been founded and that Italians would be forced to accept Austro-Hungarian sovereignity and borders forever. Most countries in the world are unfortunate in that they are stuck with borders that haven't been drawn by them themselves. It's like saying "Europeans have made a decision for you, so stop crying and accept what Europeans forced on you!" The Kurds are just the latest victim of this.
I hate most states for how they hate their "minorities" and deny them their rights while celebrating their "independence" on national day. I also hate those "no country is homogenous", "diversity is wonderful" type of people in the West. They enjoy so much "world music" and exotic dishes in their bubble that they can't realize how horrible it is elsewhere to be persecuted and forced into assimiliation, like it is in most of the other intolerant countries.
As a Kurd, I must say that the independence referendum was a big mistake. The regional government was wrong because they thought US and EU support the independence referendum. Before the referendum, there was a very good relationship between Türkiye and the regional government. Despite the Iraqi central government, Turkey was buying oil from the regional government and paying the money to the regional government. This was a very important source of financing. With this financing, large infrastructure projects were implemented in the region through many companies from Turkey. There was a rapid development process in the region. After the referendum, Türkiye stopped relations and oil exchange with the regional government. He continued his shopping with the central government. The share of the regional government in oil exchange has decreased significantly. Currently, the flow of oil to other countries via Türkiye has stopped. Turkey stated that the Iraqi central government and the regional administration must reach an agreement in order for the oil flow to begin. Countries in the region do not want a new state in Syria or Iraq. Because they think that artificial states will cause new problems in the region. Even though years have passed, even Israel's presence in the region is not established and its future existence is questioned.
"History stretching back thousands of years" really professor, where did you get this from? your are an academic person if a group of people existed some where for thousands of years and did not establish a civilization, what is best word to describe them? Those group of none homogeneous people are a collection of gang style tribes somehow formed together in the region due to successive intervals of vacuum of power. They are only a gun for hire. Regards
Being used as a geopolitical pawn spanning decades.If and when thier supporter decides to withdraw aid they will decrease thier presence in the regions.
When Turkey were expected to be USA's natural ally as a NATO member in the region US choosed Kurds over Turkey. It would be nice if you will ever elaborate the reasons of it in future videos,Thanks.
Very simple, because the US controls all of the oil fields in Northern Syria and Northern Iraq. And when that sht runs out, they will greenlight us to clean up that terrorist den over there once and for all.
@@lmao5070 Turkish citizens does support israel but we also support the rigth to live of innocent people. An avarage Turkish citizen does not give a damn about the religion of a person and we don't value their life based on their religion. It might be hard for some people to understand but life of an innocent jew matters equally important with an innocent palestanian muslim's life.Yes Turkey does not blindly support every action of USA in the region but we always care an ally which acts like an ally. US choose a puppet over an ally. Btw sometimes politicians might increase the tensions but what politicians says and what a nation feels are two different thing.
When independence is clearly not achievable because of the presence of strong states, the only logical approach is to fight for acceptable autonomy within existing framework. The Kurds have lacked imagination, and tried too hard for the impossible.
Professor, could you make a video on the de facto military coup that has taken place in Pakistan. There is currently a "transitional" government in place which the military is not shying away from and openly supports it. The Army chief has handpicked the ministers and regularly attends civilian institutional events. They keep pushing election dates forward and the genuine fear is that they will eventually be postponed altogether. The silence of the International community is especially disheartening to Pakistani people as the the argument that the US only supports democracy when it serves Washingtons interests can really be made right now. Thousands of political workers have been thrown in jail and the armys puppet government has also passed laws allowing military courts to sentence civilians.
12:00 thank you for calling them "militia forces". you are the first to call them that. everyone else calls the kurdish forces an army but they are far from an army. they are armed forces of different political parties, they pay for their weapons out of their own pockets and bribe a goverment official to get accepted and its more like a part time job. they are in service for about 10 days a week and then they go home and work other jobs. they all have different uniforms and their weapons are older them themselves on average and have to oay for ammunition out of their own pockets lol
@@oguzhan9424 no they're a militia not terrorists. terroist is a group that kills more civilians than armed forces like Iran, USA, Israel, Turkey, Syrian goverment
Despite the obstacles and pressure facing the Kurds, we see that they are better than others in the region. The Kurds are a great, loyal, honest, brave, civilized and reliable people.
Living in Kurdistan as a Kurd, I am intimately familiar with our current situation, and our primary concern lies with our government. The two dominant political parties have assumed control over every aspect of governance, often manipulating their authority and the legal system for their own benefit. It has been three decades since the Kurdish government gained authority in the region, yet they have struggled to fulfill fundamental needs like electricity and fuel. To be candid, I wouldn't be greatly disheartened if the Kurdish state were to collapse; at least then, my people could rely on receiving their monthly salaries.
@@panasonics346 if the government doesn't give u the chance or the opportunity then what we are supposed to do as individuals? U don't get it unless you live among us, buddy !
I think, it's a useless attempt to try and declare independence. The age of nationalism and nation states would come to an end in the future and will be replaced by pluralist cultural based human communities that regard their identity within the boundaries of humane values and ethics rather than ethnicity and morality. There is no other way to fully incorporate the current structure of our society into modern technological advancements and at the same time make it compatible in a rational way to the problems such technologies cause against the ecosystem. Injustice, poverty, unparalleled population growth policies, introduction of new social identities and subgroups all would lead to a political system where ethnocentrism would have minimal effects. As for the kurds, I believe there's a lot of misconception about the idea of statehood. Many of these political parties often make false historical claims and are focused on nationalism and ideologies as opposed to a more solid strategy based on the fundamentals of civil rights. They are biased, corrupted, irresponsible and for sure unqualified for administration of a small town let alone a country. Independence at the current stage of middle east would result into ethnic conflicts and bloodshed, it does not introduce any peaceful outcome that is going to be lasting. Politicians need to be honest about such scenario with the kurds and direct them in a more prosperous path towards a better future. Happiness and peace is a subjective matter and I'm pretty sure it is not found in nationalism. In my opinion, if kurds have their civil rights and are focused on a modern eco-friendly society in which human rights are well respected, politicians are held accountable, secularism is guaranteed and people tend to be patriotic other than nationalistic, they would indeed have a lively and more peaceful future than to seek some old traditional concept, such as an independent nation state.
No truer words have been spoken. I think sometimes certain opions become popular and therefore people do not consider to actually question them. If they have their independant state they will suffer from massive casualties and end up regretting leaving what they had. Kurds do have autonomy and their rights so I don’t see a reason for them change it. I think also the minorities that live there that don’t want to leave iraq and that have lived in that region for far longer than kurds will suffer.
Unfortunately the Model that you ate talking about doesn't exist, again Unfortunately it is a dark fact bloodshed exist. Your perspective is so intresting, to call for Model that is not applied in developing countries yet, you are suggesting it for a group of people whom dont have basic rights ...... So intresting but Unfortunately not realistic....
Kurdistan will survive from economic war started against them from Iraq allied to Iran and Iran it self . Kurds ppls much more stronger than what you see or reads on edges of newspapers. These ppl faced more extreme conditions before and never give up. They live longer ✌️✌️
I'm an Iranian. Three years ago, I travelled to Iraqi Kurdistan via land route. I'm a pretty curious individual and have a very sharp eye for detecting socio-economical matters at places that I visit. The way that the region was being governed was horrific. There was no civil and municipal services offered to citizens. Literally, nobody collected the garbage (in Suleymaniye and Erbil, which are the two most important cities of that region). The electricity used to go out 30 times a day. Every place that could afford it had a diesel generator. In the meantime, the money was allocated to import mostly-American luxury cars. Chrysler 300c was being used as a taxi there. Lamborghinies would fly besides you while you were drawning in garbage and rodents at the sidewalk. Pishmargeh militia were everywhere driving like maniacs in their tacticals in the middle of historical Erbil. Nobody spoke any language besides Kurdish. The people were very nice and helpful. A young commie taxi driver who knew some broken English tried to explain how their officials (Barezani) looted the entire oil money. It shouldn't come as a surprise that such a pseudo-state is collapsing. Landloced, surrounded by more powerful hostile nations, entirely dependent on foreign imports to feed its population. Nah it can't work. And the prospects for establishment of a unified Kurdish state are grim, if not non-existent.
@zakariyashakir4091 if you knew my ethnicity, you would simply label me as enemy and consider my words as lies. If not and if you believe that one can be a fair man regardless of his ethnicity here it is: I'm an Iranian Azerbaijani Turk. We, as a family, have several Kurdish friends in our city and visit each other regularly.
I understand your points, which are fully valid. To be honest however, that does not mean a state will not be able to run or exist for that matter. There are other parts of Iraq and also Iran that are without electricity for some parts of the day. Yet they continue to exist as countries. These are issues we will have to work on and resolve by ourselves. Do not forget that we are after all , isolated by 4 countries that hate our existence. The garbage collection services are better now than before. The fact that they all spoke Kurdish in Hewlêr (Erbil), well, what would you expect? It would be like me going to Bam, speaking to people in Kurdish while they all speak Persian. It is unfortunate though that English is not more widespread in order for local inhabitants and tourists to communicate with each other in a more effective manner.
@@behroozkhaleghiradSənin kürdlər üçün dediklərin İrandakı türklər üçün də keçərlidir. Kürdlər kürd dili bilirlər, bu yaxşıdır. Nəyə görə fars dilini bilməlidirlər? İnsan oğlu hər itin-qurdun dilini bilməlidirmi?
Part of why the KRG was able to remain for so long was that during Arab-majority Iraq's darkest war years it existed as an oxygen valve for those who were able to take a break from the violence in an oasis of Kurdish stability. This is why there are so many hotels in the north. Families from Baghdad could come up for Eid per example and not have fret about the prospect of a mass casualty attack. But now that federally-controlled Iraq is largely at peace, the KRG is far less necessary to tolerate.
@watup3494 You must be joking. Firstly, Karbala is an Arabic name and means distress and affliction (the word “affliction” you took from Arabic). Secondly, “Kurdistan” was the land of the Assyrians. The evidence is that every time I hear that you have found traces of the Assyrians, they are Semites, by the way, and the Arabs are Semites, so they are our cousins and the Akkadians as well, and you are Indo-Europeans who do not support the land of the Semites. In addition to the fact that the Sumerians are not confirmed by scholars as to who they were, but many believe that they were also Semites. You came from Iran and took the land of the Semites.
@@gladiuspax2390 Kurds are an ethnic Iranian people. Breaking off from Turkiye or the other two Arap states may make sense but eventually they would join their Iranian brethren in Rojhilat
كوردستان المقسمة رغم انوف الاتراك وعرب والفرس سيتحد ونظال شعب كوردي يشهد لذلك فمن خلال تضحياتنا ودمائنا اخذنا بعض اجزاء كوردستان من عراق وبٲذن الله سيلة سوريا وايران وتركيا ونكون دولة كوردية وسيصبح واقع حال ولدينا الحق فالارض ارضنا وانتهی.
The world worries about the Palestinians who have resorted to terrorism and continue to threaten the existence or Israel. The Kurds who have resisted terrorism and fought against local terrorists groups. Yet no one helps the Kurds.
Palestinians have been living in apartheid for 75 years and they have suffered more than anyone but still presevered. Israel is a facist state and you’re going to defend them. The kurds have been part of fighting terrorism but the not fought off all most of it so you’re giving them too much cred. The main fighters against terrorism have been Syria and Iraq, so if anyone is going to get help, it’s them.
@@honeycomb2368 They have been living a self imposed isolation. It isn’t apartheid they are another nation and not Israeli citizens. They have continually tried to destroy Israel. They deserve nothing from Israel. If the Arab states care so much about them let them immigrate. Most of them aren’t originally from Palestine anyway most of them are from Egypt when their forefathers immigrated to Palestine when it was under British rule. The British barred Jewish immigration but allowed whole sale muslim immigration.
@@honeycomb2368 palestenians don't even compare to what Kurds suffered , chemical bombing and burying alive by apartheid arabs they suffered from Arab terrorism since 100 years , Arabs teortized their children more than hundred of thousands
Before being independent, we should see the politicians first, are they going to make your new country prosperous or just a corrupted and mismanaged country? Making a new independent state of Kurdistan is unrealistic especially when many Kurdish factions are fighting each other for dominantion, yes you determine yourself for the Kurds, but in after being independent, you will determine yourself for money, because Kurds only have a unified culture, but Kurds do not have a unified ideology. And having status quo with a guaranteed language and cultural right is the only way. And not to talk about Middle East politicians, there is only money and woman inside their brain.
As a -nationalist- Turc I like watch endless soap opera so call Kurdistan. I'd like to straight answer to your question ... what was wrong? Simple ... America ... when Kurds start dance with American music they lost their future. Let's be realistic, America can't stand there forever, right? Soon or later (looks like soon) they pack-up and left. Can you imagine what's happen next? Last American Airplane left the tarmac shlt show will start for them. Who protect Kurds after Americans? Russians? China? Maybe EU? (Rofl) ... what a soap opera!
Mosul was left to Iraq with the 1926 Ankara Treaty on the condition of non disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of Iraq in any case- Turkish view is if Iraq is balkanised Turkey will have a claim in Northern Iraq.
At one point, Iraqi Kurdistan seemed to be one of the world's most stable and prosperous de facto states. While it hadn't declared independence, many saw it as a state in waiting and a country in all but name. However, today, the picture is very different. So, do you really think it is in danger of collapsing? And, if not, are any hopes for an independent Kurdistan now over? As ever, let me know your thoughts and comments below.
Mate as a Kurd there are many things that need to be looked at, first it all depends on the international equations. Iran nowadays does its best to fall the Kurdish government through its allies in Iraq and The US 🇺🇸 is silent as of this moment. Besides that, in Iraq Sunnies also want their own region. We have to wait until war happens which is something that I can smell its odour.
Russia & china just whooped the dolla & the lackies of the west😂😂
Die Kurden in Nordiraq haben sich mit dem Referandum bzgl. Unabhängigkeit mit der Türkei und Iran komplett verscherzt.
Barzani Clan ist koorupt und nach meiner Ansicht nicht in der Lage ein Land aufzubauen und zu führen.
Die kurzsichtige Politik der irakischen Kurden unter Barzani hat sie in diese politische Sackgasse geführt. Sie haben in ihrem
Bestreben unabhängig zu werden ihre Abhängigkeit von der Türkei und Iran komplett vergessen bzw. nicht berücksichtigt.
Die Türkei ist der Zugang der irakischen Kurden an die Außenwelt. Die Kurden hatten den Erdölverkauf eingestellt, jetzt verkaufen
sie wieder. Die Türkei hatte als Reaktion den Flughafen von Erbil de facto gesperrt. Die Kurden haben nunmehr erkannt, daß sie
gar nicht so stark sind, wie sie gedacht hatten. Die Türkei und Iran werden niemals einen kurdischen Staat an ihren Grenzen
zulassen, koste was es wolle. Wie sehr die Türken diese These unterstützen sehen wir durch die Angriffe der türkischen
Luftwaffe in Nordsyrien und Nordiraq. Sie werden mit einer Autonomie leben müssen, das gilt solange wie die irakische
Zentralregierung (unter dem Einfluß der Iraner) das zuläßt.
@@zakariyashakir4091 Kurdistan is an unfinished thing of WW1. From India we can say when ur Kurds group & 40 million kurds yezidis will not be scattered & divided in different political groups with different agendas. Formation of Kurdistan will become easier. But u needs to keep good relations with Assyrians & Bedouins. Bcs neither Arabs in Mesopotamia nor Turks of anatolia or Iranians will be happy about it. Bcs present Iran is actually Arab turks mixers. U & Armenians r only Aryans there & Bedouins Assyrians r non arab turks in the region.
@@zakariyashakir4091 we have a strategy for ur Kurdistan. Declaring Iraqi region independence will not help Kurds, bcs Iraq is ur gateway to gulf ocean. Ur main obstruction is Turkey Iran & Arabs. So those region needs to be independent Kurdistan & Iraq region should remain as autonomous for sea access of anatolia region independent Kurdistan by keeping good rapport with Assyrians of Iraq.
I as a Kurd who live in Kurdistan region of iraq, i can say that our problem as the Kurdish nation, is not our surrounding countries. The only problem is KDP and PUK.
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Well it isnt exactly correct, the two rival parties are accountable for many of our problems of course, and they are the reason of the KRG to be weaker after all that support from the western allies, but the enemies surrounding us are also undeniably a big factor on that
well that´s not correct at all ,if those two paries are the only reason for our problems in kurdistan region then what about other parts of Kurdistan? as we all now our situation in kurdistan region is much better than other parts of Kurdistan.
as a Kurd i have to say your type of
ideology, is the only cancer that kills our dream to have an only state, and this F ideology is condemned who don’t agree with you, you must accept diversity to lead others….
You forgot PKK too.
Thanks for the video. In my opinion, the main problem is that the two Kurdish parties and peshmerga forces cannot unite, this paves the way to unstability in the long term since our allies can’t rely on us for their plans
Sending love to my Iraqi Kurd brothers and hope their regional government will do better for them
As a kurd , kurdish regional government have become an aristocratic nepotistic government , average workers havent gotten their august salary
Basically like any other normal government in the glorious middle east
Unfortunately KDP and PUK are not propper parties but rather tribal syndicates. 32 years of autonomy and they still run seperate police and army units
Thanks. There is certainly a lot to this argument. It’s interesting and important that other viewers, including from the region, have really emphasised this point.
as a Kurdish it’s almost 100 days without out salary 😢
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Because your presidents, Barzani and Talabani families, are betraying the Kurds. They work for the invaders. Barzani and Talabani work only for their personal and family purposes. They are deceiving the Kurds. Barzani family is Turkey's toy. Talabani is Iran's toy.Kurds need to unite and act together with America and Israel...
Why dont they give yo your salaries
@@batuhanyayla7214 bro the state is corrupt heavily because of that they can’t give us money , they steal our money to pay luxury things
Gryan xosha ?
As a Kurd living in the Iraqi-Kurdish region, I have to say that we have not received salaries for the last three months straight.
Bagerra
You political parties are more corrupt than ours in Baghdad. They promise so much yet they don't deliver. How come that they want to create a state but cannot pay monthly salary! They're a bunch of clowns
Почему ???
Не помню что говорят
Because your presidents, Barzani and Talabani families, are betraying the Kurds. They work for the invaders. Barzani and Talabani work only for their personal and family purposes. They are deceiving the Kurds. Barzani family is Turkey's toy. Talabani is Iran's toy.Kurds need to unite and act together with America and Israel...
I was actually in Iraq (2016-17) working as a journalist for a local news agency. what I can say about KRG is, it is unfortunate that the people there are represented by KDP and PUk, both parties are mind bogglingly coropt
Well that's Iraqi politics after 2003 for ya
@@thewinner2782
Let me guess, before 2003 Iraq was democratic🤡🤡🤡
They are nothing but two mafia families
@@daraa151 that's not what I said
@@thewinner2782
Enlighten us please
Months ago I requested you for a video on this subject. Thank you so much professor 🙏 🙏
Thanks. Great suggestion!
Turkey will never allow an independent Kurdistan even if it incorporates only lands in Iraq, because they know it will embolden Kurds in Turkey to eventually join.
yes
True but can we morally agree locals should decide this issue but make it globally so its consistent everywhere regardless when its in our interest
I 100 percent agree with the Kurds. I think they should have their own state, but, I know how Turks play, they will do some very wicked things to other countries, so no one will support the Kurds.
@@LeftWingNationalist
@@LeftWingNationalistdude literally. These same people say Russians in Europe cannot decide to rejoin Russia, but a group of people in the middle east try to do so, they support it.
It's alarming how people are so accustomed to hypocrisy and double standards.
That is correct because the barzani clan are Erdogans guard dogs and care more about financially securing their future than the Kurds.
Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria may differ in everything, but there is a permanent agreement on the non-establishment of a Kurdish state between them. Secondly, the economy of the Kurdistan region depends on Baghdad and Ankara by 90% through oil, tourism and commodity trade
The iraqi government is so corrupt that we see no money of the oil they sell. They probably is going to iran because there are irans dogs in iraq 😂😂😂
You have misunderstood something...Turkey gave up these lands on the condition that these lands would not be divided, otherwise Turkey would have claim to these areas again. This has nothing to do with a Kurdish state, it is simply better if it stays as it is, for everyone.
@@yaxshibala
Turkey, after the
collapse of the
Ottoman empire
could not have
hung onto its
domains. The
proverbial Pandora's
box (nationalism)
had been opened
during WW1.
All UK, France, Soviet
Union would have had
to do would be to fund
and arm rebels -- The
easiest way to obtain
power and influence
within a territory.
@@yaxshibalaexplaine why
@@reberbakir2126In the Ankara agreement signed between the British, Iraqis and Turks in 1926, Turkiye has the right to intervene in Iraq's Mosul and Kirkuk provinces in case Iraq is divided or in danger of division. Actually, this happened in the 90s, but the West created terrorists like the PKK and prevented Turkiye. The first thing the terrorists did was to attack Mosul oil, now the oil is going to America, meaning the rights of Iraq and Turkiye are being stolen.
2+2=1
KURDISTAN 🟥☀🟩
America really chose a small organization over its strongest NATO ally Turkey. If every minority deserves a country. We expect Native Americans in the great lakes, and also a state for black people around Atlanta!!
The indigenous people were colonized before the institution of the modern concept of self-determination. Meanwhile, Kurdish independence was born in the context of Wilson's 14 points and the establishment of national determination.
I know these uncomfortable truths unsettled Turks who blindly follow Erdogan, but those are the facts.
@@FightXScience-wh6kx I don't follow the logic here. The Kurds had been subjugated as part of a Turkish Ottoman state since far before the indigenous peoples of America were colonized.
@@yarsaz4347 The Ottomon Empire no longer exists. It was dismantled precisely with the institution of the concept of self-determination and Wilson's 14 point plan. That is when the Kurds began their independence movement....not coincidentally
@@FightXScience-wh6kx The Kurds are an Iranian ethnic group therefore they already have their own state. They are not native to Anatolia, they were nomadic groups who came from Iran. If self determination means having their own state then they already have it. They can join their Iranian brethren in Rojhelat. Notice how Wilson's plan never involved Rojhelat.
Said a Turk, with a country that calls Kurds the Mountain Turks!
Çok teşekkür ediyorum bize yer verdiğiniz icin ama ALLAH ' ın izniyle bir gün 𝐊𝐔𝐑𝐃İ𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐍 kuracağız ❤
Videoyu anlamadın herhalde Kürdistanda insanlar maaşlarını alamıyor insan hakları büyük düşüşte.....Kürdistan iran türkiye ve suriye devletleri tarafından izole edilmiş.....Hem Allah hemde bu ülkeler hiçbir zaman Kürdistanı kurmanıza izin vermeyecekler.
Hangi bölgede sorabilirsiniz?Amerika ve İngilterenin gazına geleyim demeyin sonra sizi sırtüstü KAZZIĞA otururlar. Beyninizi kullanın, yaşadığınız ülkeni kurallarına uyup kardeşçe geçim sağlayın.bolgedeki pkk ypg terörist lere uyup huzurunuzu bozmayın!
Dear James. I follow your videos carefully to understand seemingly complex geopolitical issues.
But why don't you make a clear distinction between armed struggle and acts of terrorism. The PKK is a terrorist organization that has been established since 1979 with the aim of carrying out long-term and consistent acts of terrorism. It is an armed terrorist organization modeled on the revolutionary terrorist activity initiated by Mao Zedong. They themselves have already stated this. The PKK is on the list of terrorist organizations in many countries. I think it is important to mention this detail when approaching the events. it will not offend them. Because they are the ones who proudly announce this to the public after their terrorist activities. Just like other terrorist organizations like Daesh and Al-Qaeda, they gather supporters through this activity. In fact, they recently burned 4 people to death in a terrorist act in Germany.
They have killed thousands of civilians with suicide bombings in major metropolises in Turkey.
I wish you good work with love.
Thanks. You make an important point. Like many others, I am not sure that it helps to refer to groups as terrorist organisations. They may carry out acts of terror, but many will argue that their aims are legitimate. And we get back to the problem that designating a group a terrorist organisation is highly subjective. For example, across Europe and the United States, many are appalled by Hamas, and rightly so. But while they call it a terrorist organisation, and it banned, many in Turkey (including the government) argue that it is not. It is a legitimate group fighting for Palestinian rights. Now, I know that you would draw a difference between Hamas and the PKK, but many wouldn’t. And this is the issue. If I called one terrorist and not the other then I am naturally accused of bias. In this sense it is better to refer to both groups as insurgent organisations. This is acceptable as a definition, even if its doesn’t go as far as some would like.
I have to say this as a Kurd. Kurds' efforts to become a state are local and not unanimous. It is a situation used by big powers for their own interests. I hope that one day an independent Kurdish state can be established.
Why would some Kurds not want their own state? It seems to me that people would want to be able to run their own lives.
@@bunjijumper5345I think what he/she means is that every region has its own idea of independence and the movement is not centralised
@@bunjijumper5345 independence doesn't mean shit if you live a happy life
@@bunjijumper5345If you look at Kurds in Turkey many already kind of "gave up“ on the idea of an own state, they just want their language, culture etc. to be respected and to be presented fairly in the political spectrum. However the opinions of Kurds in Turkey differ of course. Some do want independence and some don‘t.
@@bunjijumper5345 bcs Kurds r not united for various reasons & vested interests that's why.
Kurds have a history ? thousands of years ? do some researches Mr. James
Love Kurdistan from Maryland
As a Kurd thank you ❤
I was recently in Baltimore I didn't expect it to look so rough.
@@bilic8094 Haven't been there in a while but it depends where in any city you go. Certain parts are beautiful and safe while others are the polar opposite
@@solsolsolomon It was right by camden yards the baseball stadium I've never been to Baltimore before but I thought it would look alot better since the stadium is really nice I thought the area would be also but quite the opposite.
نەتەوەیەکی غەدر لێکراوین🙂. تاکە شت کە بمانەوێت ئەوەیە وڵات و سنورێکی تایبەت بە خۆمان هەبێت وەک هەر وڵاتێکی تر😍.
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It is disappointing how standards for independence vary widely depending on who wishes to declare it or had already done so. Kurdistan’s efforts were snuffed immediately with a concerted efforts of all their neighbors as well as the US, while Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence was welcomed, encouraged and recognized by many. The situation and circumstances in the two are not the same but there are some stark similarities. Double-triple-quadruple standards of some major international players never seize to amaze me. Localized interests of the big guns always trump the interests of the people in question.
It’s not same. Kosovans went through genocide and couldn’t protect themselves while kurds chose violence and terror.
I know what you mean but the fact the US had no intention to intervene on behalf of Kosovo before the world found out about the ethnic cleansing and war crimes going on in the region, most targeting the Albanian populations in Kosovo
@@irvin099 cut the nonsense no such thing happened if so at least provide some location in kosovo which you won't find.
Enlight yourself before posting, different situations.
@@samthebrownman then how US endorsed ethnic cleansing in Bangladesh by its lacky Pakistan in 1971 ?
Bəs İraqdakı türkmənlər? Onlara müstəqillik gərəkdirmi? Nə düşünürsünüz?
james: _onu söyleyemiyoruz maalesef_ 😅
Türkmenler Amerikan'ın köpeği olmak istemedikleri için Batı medyasında onların ismini dahi anan yok.
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Very interesting.
Best wishes to the people of Kurdistan.
Thank you for keeping us informed Professor.
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@@skp8748 What's your problem?
Thanks man from the bottom of my heart!
of course the plan could not be implemented the Turks won the war remember?
If I were a Jew living in US I would not say I'm stateless. If it is a problem for me to accept US as my home state then I would immediately immigrate to Israel. Kurds can establish 100 states if they wish and they can but they cannot deny they are Iranian. You have already a state. If I were a Kurd living in an Arab country or in Turkey and if that bothered me I would directly fly to Iran, not do bla bla and disturb other peoples.
It's sad that a people has suffered throughout histonry,a people left to their own fate! Kurdish people surrounded by very aggressive neighbour's.Non-Kurd. Love and respect ❤ Kurdish people.
Kurds deserve their state, I support you as muslim.
In that case,take kurds give part of your country if you really love them a lot
lol no they don't
Make the most important country in your land not in our land
@SadLilith--- I am no older than the Sumerians who inhabited this land 15,000 years ago.
@SadLilith--- You're part of Iraq, anyway.
Es lebe Freiheit und Frieden in Kurdistan🏳️🏴✌️🏳️🏴wir waren schon immer alleine im Stich gelassen. Wir haben einen Spruch dazu: no Friedens but the Mountains
It’s a remarkable, Professor Jim🎉. Keeps the wonderful job 🎉
Thank you so much! Have a great weekend.
America only supports the Kurds who are fighting in Syria. Support for Kurds in Iraq will be complicated. Because the current relationship with the Iraqi government can be said to be not good but also not bad. If there is another conflict in Iraq, domestic politics in the United States will be volatile, because American intervention in Iraq has always drawn criticism from the people of the United States after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Support for the Kurds in Iraq will lead to a new war that will not be profitable for the United States. If there are too many wars in a region, it is feared that the United States will create a situation that is likely to be out of control in the future. Apart from that, the war in Syria is not over yet. Rojava is still fighting and expanding its territory. There is no form of US support for a region that wants independence that does not cause instability.
Apart from that, the relationship between southern Kurdistan (Basur) and western Kurdistan (Rojava) is not very clear what it will be like. Many people already know, through anthropological research spread across social science journals on the internet, that why the Kurds have never been united is that sentiments between sub-tribes within the Kurds themselves are not very harmonious.
My guess is that US support seems to be going to the northern Kurds. Because everyone knows that America doesn't like Erdogan. Or maybe surprisingly the US will helps the Kurds in the east in Iran. The instability of the Turkish region seems to be a more priority for the US after the Syrian war than having to help the Kurds in Iraq. Re-creating instability in Iraq, which 12 years ago was at war with the US, seems impossible or that it would be the last option for the US. YPG and Rojava have strong relations in the Syrian war and terror in Turkiye. This can be seen where the terror of city bombings in Türkiye emerged.
The function of the Kurds for America is only to destabilize Islamic countries. Coincidentally, the Kurds have always wanted independence. Meets the interests of the United States to divide Islamic countries.
قادة أكراد كلهـم فاسيد ٣٣ سنة سلب و نهـب سروة شعب الكوردى نصف كوردستان عائلة طالبانى و نصف أخر عائلة بارزانى طسيطر
العراق كلو فاسد هه
This is sad to hear. I haven’t followed Kurdistan much in the last two years so to know so much has declined in such a short time is disheartening. At one point, Erbil was the place I wanted to visit most in the Middle East/West Asia.
I hope they can turn things around.
Erbil is a great place, you can go visit no problem
Be careful of terrorist attacks, my friend.
How you going take from this man bro you guys need to wake up Kurd
You have not missed a lot!
As an Iraqi born Kurd, living in the US, I can assure you that Erbil is very much safe. Most of the major cities like Suleimani and Duhok are also safe, provided you have a basic grasp of common sense--as you do in every other country across the world. I just finished visiting family there and returned a few months ago.
man i feel sorry for Kurdistan that's sad i though somaliland were in bad situation well Kurdistan is way worst in somaliland our op is somalia we speak the same language we are technically one imagne fighting 4 diffrent country that's sad asf
The kurds are one of the original iranian tribes, not sure why westerners are so helbent in causing division in this region...
In some parts where mapshow a Kurdish population, Kurds are not in the majority. Arabs and South Azerbaijani Turks are in the majority...
Most maps on topics I cover are contested. It’s in the very nature of what I do. It goes with the territory, so to speak. :-)
@@TheEnginatoryou’re disrespectful
Future country? Who gets to decide where a new country can be build?
Kime göre neye göre 😠
Sen kurd musun bro
@@nurullahdurmus1321 Erê
My heart breaks for this people
Thanks man, but all people throughout the world should know that we never give up and never gave up, much love and respect 🫡
We the kurds suffer alot but let the enemies know this : giving up is no option !!
I am a kurd from Iraqi Kurdistan, and as kurds we have no truer enemy than the Barzani clan.
Unlike Christian minorities, Kurds were not promised independence. The option was a British mandate. When Turkey proposed a plebicit for North Iraq in Laussane, Lord Curzon famously said “how can Kurds decide, they would eat the papers”. I have no clue how this is supposed to be funny.
I proud of Kurdish people.
Actually Iran and Turkey although rivals are challenging USAs position in the region. They do this in cooperation with Russia and possibly with China as the player behind the curtain. Kurdish government in Iraq and now YPG in North Syria/Rojava are seen as an obstacle to achieve this goal since both are somewhat considered as US allies. Iran wants to create a Shiite belt from Iran to Iraq to Syria while Turkey wants to benefit from the power vacuum by weakening USA in the region.
America: We have no allies except the Khazar Jews
Mantıklı ama kürtlerin bu kadar sorunla nasıl başa çıktıklarına şaşırıyorum onlar gerçekten güçlü
There’s no such thing as Kurdistan, never was and never will.
You say like that Is mean Palestine isn't a state too
Great to see that this never materialized, the last thing we needed in this region was a new client state of the West and Tel Aviv. The Kurdish leadership, like the Zionists, mentally live in the 90’s thinking that only the colonialist West (mainly the US) are the ones with any clout in the world, and if they only do Washington’s and Tel Aviv’s bidding they’ll get a “country of their own” based on stolen oil from the original states to which they belong (like Iraq). Well, the world has changed and the West is finally and fortunately in decline while other countries in the Global South are up and coming. My advice, stop working for the Western colonialists who care nothing about you and make friends with your countrymen. All countries have minorities and we should all work together against Western imperialism instead of fighting each other thus allowing the West to divide and conquer. Arab, Turk, Iranian and Kurd could be allies and build a better future in our own region, free from genocidal and resource stealing Western colonialists.
Professor Lindsay, no 15M Kurds in Turkey, max 8 to 10 millions.
20 to 30 million
@@aqwsderxz 🤣🤣🤣 good joke
It's highly contested. Turkey will always reduce the figure. Kurds will always increase it.
@@JamesKerLindsay agree, but I'm neither Turkish not Kurdish tho)) I've done some researches on this matter.
@@JamesKerLindsayTURKS SURE ASİMİLATİON POLİCY ALL ETHNİC GROUPS TURKEY ONLY TURK NO OTHERS.
Great video! I've not been following Kurdistan closely in the last year, but I'm not that surprised to hear how bad things are getting. The corruption and human rights situation is terrible from what I've heard, but the government was able to maintain control because of its control of oil revenue. Without this, I think that most of the power structures will eventually collapse. 😢
Thank so much, Fredo. It is incredibly to see what has happened to Iraqi Kurdistan. At one point it seemed so stable and was lauded as a bastion of democracy in the region. It does seem on its way to becoming a failed de facto state.
By the way, I loved your most recent YT short. Who’d have thought Estonia had a separatist kingdom!? 😀
@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you! Torgu's main advantage as a de facto state is no one in Estonia seems to mind it at all. 😂
💡 Perhaps the only solution to Kurdistan at this point is to play all the selfish neighbors & interntional community by doing exactly like what Nigerian army has been doing with boko haram for decades. Keep ISIS threat alive to force everyone to rush with little limit to help Kurdistan to fight them forever🤏
@@duran9664 sorry aber diese Idee ist einfach nur dumm
@@duran9664 ur absolutely right. That's the game is going on. ISIS means Salafi group. Al Qaeda is wahabi group. Even if they finish ISIS, then al Qaeda will be thrown at Kurds.
I voted Yes in the independence referendum, not because I though anything good will come out if it but because the Kurdish leadership had put me in a position that I had no other choice. I could never vote no for statehood or not vote, it’s such an ancient and sacred dream for us that it cannot be played with, but unfortunately the Kurdish leadership and specifically Masoud Barzani did, purely for his immediate personal political interest.
As a result of that referendum, we lost 1/3 of the land we controlled, it destroyed any trust, even little, we had built with surrounding nations and of course we had to nullify the referendum results anyways at the end.
Референдум не аннулирован. Главное единство Братья мой и тогда будет мир.
@watup3494 я начал изучать нашу Курдскую историю и понял вес ближний восток это Курдски земли от Дамаска до Багдада это Курдские земли Братья мой поймите одно вместе мы сила по одиночку мы не кто.
You are a big lier .
We as Kurds, we all voted Yes for independence regardless to any other reasons.
And we are going forward for independency. Live longer you will see !!
@watup3494don't spread lies! Baghdad was NEVER a Kurdish city. It was built by al-Mansur, an Arab caliph. Baghdad in Persian means "Bestowed by God" but the name predates even kurds and even persian as its been found present in Old Babylonian and Aramaic. Stick to your mountains and stop trying to steal other people's history
Lands of Turkmens were given to Kurds in northern Iraq . There should be region Turkmen administration in northern Iraq , in Mosul, Kirkuk and Tel Afar areas.
Who fooled you?
No, Turkmens are not US puppets, so better not even mention them in the biased Western Media.
All the lands Kurdish are trying to claim belongs to Assyrians
I love kurdish
As Arabic speaking Iraqi and mixed ethnicity origin Arab Kurd Turk and Persian
I am Iraqi
And if the kurd want to be independent in their region border according to the UN in 1991
It’s okay with me and with 90% of Iraqi population
But taking land of Iraqi Turkman, Assyrian, Yazidi, Shabak, Sunni Arab and Shia Kurd (Lur)
that’s will not happened now or in future
And we will definitely protect our Iraqi brothers (Turkmen, Yazidi, Assyrian, Sunni Arab and Shia Kurd ) and there land
You are at the level of ridiculousness.
@@tekhayat5995he is not. Most Iraqis are mixed ethnically so the concept of a Kurdish ethnostate is bizarre in a region made up of a mixed peoples
@@RJH8770So why should there be 22 arab ethnostates? What a retarded comment. Northern Iraq is almost 100% Kurdish. Also ezidis (yazidi is a slur) are Kurds, I am ezidi. The only natives except Kurds are Assyrians and I think they would much rather prefer us than Arabs tbh.
@@quzunarqozi5171 because there's no such thing as an "Arab ethnostate" outside of the gulf and Kurds don't have the mental bandwidth to see the world outside of ethnic line (your comment is proof). Majority of Northern Iraqis are mixed and are mainly Mesopotamian Arab (indigenous people of Iraq mixed with Arab) and Northern Iraq isn't even 100% kurdish and they only reason they (abd yazidis) ended up there in the first place is because of population transfer policies during the Ottoman and Safavid empires. Otherwise both peoples are native to Iran and they're welcome to go back there instead of trying to steal other people's lands. I'm sure the Assyrians would especially appreciate that vs having their lands squatted by and getting massacred by ethnically cleansed by an Iranic people.
@@RJH8770 LOL what a bunch of bullshit😂😂😂 stop taking drugs, it’s not good for your health.
Corruption is the single largest contributor to KRG downfall. About the oil case, they argued they are entitled to 100% profit from their oil territory sale plus revenue sharing from what Iraq’s central government. They were tolerated for too long.
Indeed that's correct, corruption leads to falldown
I'll tell you why that happens,the slow backdrop of the US from middle east made Iran more powerful I'm iraq which means the central government of Iraq,while previously Kurdistan was ruling Iraq,civil unrest,and being surrounded by enemies on all 4 fronts doesn't help either.
Kurds are honorable people, the sons of Salahuddin, much respect to them.
4:34 :))))) Unfortunately, you are mistaken, as the Kurdistan Region of Iraq is not a democratic territory because it is controlled and ruled by only two families, the Barzani and Talabani tribes. They have built significant wealth from the resources of the Kurdish people who still suffer from the aggression of Saddam and its ilk.
I think the current state of "Kurdistan" and the Kurdish population across the middle east is indicative of the short term thinking of US foreign policy. Had it not been for the Kurdish forces supporting local and international authorities against ISIS the new country may have been their, yet they were immediately ignored and isolated as they have been so many times not because they are a threat but because they are not !!
Please do your research regarding Kurds fighting against ISIS, I am a Kurd from Arbil if it wasn't for Kurds fighters from Rojava this region would be under ISIS control this is a paid PR by the Barzani family to make them look good until you live there and work with the locals you have no idea the miseries they deal with the those clans who control the region.
@@GHOSTYTRT I am confused sir, I stated that the reason ISIS were stopped was because of Kurdish troops. I personally don't get into the micro geopolitics of regions but I consider "Kurdistan" to stretch beyond and between borders in the region when I talk about your people. You live in the area so I certainly won't disagree with you and I in no way meant to downplay the Kurdish people or their right to sovereignty.
@@EamonCoyle My apologies for my disrespect, I am among many who Kurds who are has grown tired of dealing with corruption while the west allows these Kurdish tribes to rule the region without any prior experience or education. It is so bad in Kurdistan that prostitutes have more power than the court, Barzani family pay these prostitutes to spy for them and use them against those who are not happy with them.
@@EamonCoyle I agree with your view generally, and I wish the Kurds finally got their own state. However, you have to think of the ramifications of what you're proposing for the US: they would get to carve a sovereign state (Iraq) unilaterally?
@@Kapito13 An absolutely valid point, hard to cover all the bases in a comment but my view would be that the decision of how and where the Kurdish state should be is something for the region. The west as far back as 1914 have been making half hearted and half informed decisions that have destroyed the middle east and should let them decide their own fate be it good or bad.
Türkiye olmadan hiçler Türkiye olmasa katliamlara uğrayacaklar.
KRG, KDP, PUK are as corrupt as it gets. What we need is an influential leader who the people of Kurdistan will fully back. As a Kurd living in the states, what I see from the Barzani family is nothing short of nepotism.
This report was really vital mate, thank you from a Kurd of kurdistan
Thank you so much. As always, there was a lot to cover. But I hope I explained the main difficulties the region is facing.
@@JamesKerLindsayit is explained every Crystal clearly, how do I get to contact with you online ?
Kurdistan doesnt exist🤣🤣
Did you just declare independence right now? 😅
@@ismi675 you don’t exist as well 🙃
Thx im kurd i like this video
Thank you!
Kurd are iranin.
Why.
Iran is idea live in harmony.evry nations Iran in the past safe for good life.
Iran idea.
Live together any languages and any religion.
That's why called Iran living together All tribes.
Iran safe all nations from dictator
And free slives
Ne Mutlu Türküm diyene 🇹🇷 29 October 100. Year of Turkish Republic
Kurds don’t exist they are mythological beings created by Assyrian not real people or even humans
T*rköpek
#herbijikurdistan
I'm Iranian Kurdish nationalist, and we'll not give our land to you separatists. Read some history and accept the fact that all of Kurdistan belongs to Persia. Long Live Iran 💚🤍❤️🦁☀️
With Iraq and Turkiye being so against the Kurdish people, what can we do to help them? Since they are one of the largest group of stateless people.
Wrong. Türkiye has very good relations with the autonomous Kurdish state in Iraq. However, Türkiye is against the disruption of Iraq's territorial integrity. Most Kurds in Turkey do not want independence and prefer to live in western Turkey. Istanbul is the Turkish city with the largest Kurdish population.
@@randomhuman5525NOPE
@@SRAMLiraium Are you ignorant?
@@randomhuman5525 YOU İGRONANT? TURKS NEVER TOLERATE KURD FOR LANDS ?.
I consider myself a supporter of Kurdistan. I hope that one day it can be an independent republic.
Same here bud, they have fought so hard for freedom and they get absolutely nothing in return.. this is why I want the Russia-Ukraine war to finally end since it has been stalling sooo many independence movements around the globe.
There is no ethnic distinction in Turkey. There are people from 72 nationalities in Turkey, no one cares what ethnicity or religion they are. Kurds have served as presidents, prime ministers, ministers, chiefs of general staff, and army commanders, and continue to do so. The first head of the founding government was Kurdish. The problem is that the colonial western states are trying to weaken the region. Different ethnic and religious groups live in every state in the world.
Elə Hakan Fidan kürddür. 😊
Honestly, I am starting to hate international borders and the insistence of international actors that 1945 borders can never ever be changed, even if that means that large minorities can never attain any statehood.
Imagine there would be no Ukraine because international actors would say that Ukraine is Russia because of past borders being drawn that way. Or imagine that Italy never had been founded and that Italians would be forced to accept Austro-Hungarian sovereignity and borders forever.
Most countries in the world are unfortunate in that they are stuck with borders that haven't been drawn by them themselves. It's like saying "Europeans have made a decision for you, so stop crying and accept what Europeans forced on you!"
The Kurds are just the latest victim of this.
I hate most states for how they hate their "minorities" and deny them their rights while celebrating their "independence" on national day.
I also hate those "no country is homogenous", "diversity is wonderful" type of people in the West. They enjoy so much "world music" and exotic dishes in their bubble that they can't realize how horrible it is elsewhere to be persecuted and forced into assimiliation, like it is in most of the other intolerant countries.
As a Kurd, I must say that the independence referendum was a big mistake. The regional government was wrong because they thought US and EU support the independence referendum. Before the referendum, there was a very good relationship between Türkiye and the regional government. Despite the Iraqi central government, Turkey was buying oil from the regional government and paying the money to the regional government. This was a very important source of financing. With this financing, large infrastructure projects were implemented in the region through many companies from Turkey. There was a rapid development process in the region. After the referendum, Türkiye stopped relations and oil exchange with the regional government. He continued his shopping with the central government. The share of the regional government in oil exchange has decreased significantly. Currently, the flow of oil to other countries via Türkiye has stopped. Turkey stated that the Iraqi central government and the regional administration must reach an agreement in order for the oil flow to begin. Countries in the region do not want a new state in Syria or Iraq. Because they think that artificial states will cause new problems in the region. Even though years have passed, even Israel's presence in the region is not established and its future existence is questioned.
CLEAVER KURD !!!
@@rtchakarKürtünüskim?
@@ottomanslapx7157ananizsikim ?
المكر السيء يحيق باهله..... بالعافية عليكم برزانيكم
"History stretching back thousands of years" really professor, where did you get this from? your are an academic person if a group of people existed some where for thousands of years and did not establish a civilization, what is best word to describe them? Those group of none homogeneous people are a collection of gang style tribes somehow formed together in the region due to successive intervals of vacuum of power. They are only a gun for hire. Regards
Being used as a geopolitical pawn spanning decades.If and when thier supporter decides to withdraw aid they will decrease thier presence in the regions.
When Turkey were expected to be USA's natural ally as a NATO member in the region US choosed Kurds over Turkey. It would be nice if you will ever elaborate the reasons of it in future videos,Thanks.
Very simple, because the US controls all of the oil fields in Northern Syria and Northern Iraq.
And when that sht runs out, they will greenlight us to clean up that terrorist den over there once and for all.
Maybe because Turkey doesn't support Israel?
@@lmao5070 Turkish citizens does support israel but we also support the rigth to live of innocent people. An avarage Turkish citizen does not give a damn about the religion of a person and we don't value their life based on their religion. It might be hard for some people to understand but life of an innocent jew matters equally important with an innocent palestanian muslim's life.Yes Turkey does not blindly support every action of USA in the region but we always care an ally which acts like an ally. US choose a puppet over an ally. Btw sometimes politicians might increase the tensions but what politicians says and what a nation feels are two different thing.
@@n00b_n00b_ A classic Turkish interpretation.
Turkish citizens do not support Israel. With what right do you tell this lie?
Thanks for highlighting the plight of the Iraqi Kurds… hopefully things will get better soon with International intervention and support
@watup3494The land is Assyrian.
Kurds arrived at it not even 1000 years ago. All that you've said is laughably false.
Kurds also genocided Christian Assyrians with the help of Ottomans.
International intervention wrecked Iraq and led to this situation in the KRG.
You have no self-awareness.
a fool asking for international intervention 😞
Lets hope no international intervention happens, lets hope KRG falls and it gets replaced by a government with less corruption
5 million of them live in England 😄😄 should they claim their own government and borders ? 😆😆
its true that many live life there
It was a fake conflict and fake identity. Kurds are Persian Nomads that’s it.
كورد هو كورد فقط وليس اي قومية اخری.
Professor do you think Iraq will be divided ?
Yes, between Slovenia and Slovakia
Incredibly corrupt and greedy nation, makes me sad to see.
When independence is clearly not achievable because of the presence of strong states, the only logical approach is to fight for acceptable autonomy within existing framework.
The Kurds have lacked imagination, and tried too hard for the impossible.
Professor, could you make a video on the de facto military coup that has taken place in Pakistan. There is currently a "transitional" government in place which the military is not shying away from and openly supports it. The Army chief has handpicked the ministers and regularly attends civilian institutional events. They keep pushing election dates forward and the genuine fear is that they will eventually be postponed altogether.
The silence of the International community is especially disheartening to Pakistani people as the the argument that the US only supports democracy when it serves Washingtons interests can really be made right now. Thousands of political workers have been thrown in jail and the armys puppet government has also passed laws allowing military courts to sentence civilians.
Thanks. Great suggestion. This is a really interesting topic. I’ve marked it down.
This is a case that once losing its usefulness to the objectives of world and regional powers, Iraqi Kurdistan is just being abandoned.
We might get some recognition because of what is happening right now 😉
12:00 thank you for calling them "militia forces". you are the first to call them that. everyone else calls the kurdish forces an army but they are far from an army. they are armed forces of different political parties, they pay for their weapons out of their own pockets and bribe a goverment official to get accepted and its more like a part time job. they are in service for about 10 days a week and then they go home and work other jobs. they all have different uniforms and their weapons are older them themselves on average and have to oay for ammunition out of their own pockets lol
@@oguzhan9424 no they're a militia not terrorists. terroist is a group that kills more civilians than armed forces like Iran, USA, Israel, Turkey, Syrian goverment
Despite the obstacles and pressure facing the Kurds, we see that they are better than others in the region. The Kurds are a great, loyal, honest, brave, civilized and reliable people.
😂😂😂 Found another puppy to bring your shoes probably.
@@ottomanslapx7157 you mean puppys like turks for israel?🥹
Who gave you the right to call official and nationally recognized kurdish forces militias?
Thanks for sharing the truth, as a Kurdish I really appreciate how accurate your work is, thanks again.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Living in Kurdistan as a Kurd, I am intimately familiar with our current situation, and our primary concern lies with our government. The two dominant political parties have assumed control over every aspect of governance, often manipulating their authority and the legal system for their own benefit. It has been three decades since the Kurdish government gained authority in the region, yet they have struggled to fulfill fundamental needs like electricity and fuel. To be candid, I wouldn't be greatly disheartened if the Kurdish state were to collapse; at least then, my people could rely on receiving their monthly salaries.
Couldn't have said it better.
do something about it. we are the people. Biji Kurdistan.
بەو خوایە تۆش زۆر کەری
Ekonomik olarak bitirirse. Zaten bitmiş demektir
@@panasonics346 if the government doesn't give u the chance or the opportunity then what we are supposed to do as individuals? U don't get it unless you live among us, buddy !
All the animals will flee when the lion gets up 🇮🇶
I think, it's a useless attempt to try and declare independence. The age of nationalism and nation states would come to an end in the future and will be replaced by pluralist cultural based human communities that regard their identity within the boundaries of humane values and ethics rather than ethnicity and morality. There is no other way to fully incorporate the current structure of our society into modern technological advancements and at the same time make it compatible in a rational way to the problems such technologies cause against the ecosystem. Injustice, poverty, unparalleled population growth policies, introduction of new social identities and subgroups all would lead to a political system where ethnocentrism would have minimal effects. As for the kurds, I believe there's a lot of misconception about the idea of statehood. Many of these political parties often make false historical claims and are focused on nationalism and ideologies as opposed to a more solid strategy based on the fundamentals of civil rights. They are biased, corrupted, irresponsible and for sure unqualified for administration of a small town let alone a country. Independence at the current stage of middle east would result into ethnic conflicts and bloodshed, it does not introduce any peaceful outcome that is going to be lasting. Politicians need to be honest about such scenario with the kurds and direct them in a more prosperous path towards a better future. Happiness and peace is a subjective matter and I'm pretty sure it is not found in nationalism. In my opinion, if kurds have their civil rights and are focused on a modern eco-friendly society in which human rights are well respected, politicians are held accountable, secularism is guaranteed and people tend to be patriotic other than nationalistic, they would indeed have a lively and more peaceful future than to seek some old traditional concept, such as an independent nation state.
No truer words have been spoken. I think sometimes certain opions become popular and therefore people do not consider to actually question them. If they have their independant state they will suffer from massive casualties and end up regretting leaving what they had. Kurds do have autonomy and their rights so I don’t see a reason for them change it. I think also the minorities that live there that don’t want to leave iraq and that have lived in that region for far longer than kurds will suffer.
Unfortunately the Model that you ate talking about doesn't exist, again Unfortunately it is a dark fact bloodshed exist.
Your perspective is so intresting, to call for Model that is not applied in developing countries yet, you are suggesting it for a group of people whom dont have basic rights ......
So intresting but Unfortunately not realistic....
Kurdistan will survive from economic war started against them from Iraq allied to Iran and Iran it self .
Kurds ppls much more stronger than what you see or reads on edges of newspapers.
These ppl faced more extreme conditions before and never give up.
They live longer ✌️✌️
I'm an Iranian. Three years ago, I travelled to Iraqi Kurdistan via land route. I'm a pretty curious individual and have a very sharp eye for detecting socio-economical matters at places that I visit. The way that the region was being governed was horrific. There was no civil and municipal services offered to citizens. Literally, nobody collected the garbage (in Suleymaniye and Erbil, which are the two most important cities of that region). The electricity used to go out 30 times a day. Every place that could afford it had a diesel generator. In the meantime, the money was allocated to import mostly-American luxury cars. Chrysler 300c was being used as a taxi there. Lamborghinies would fly besides you while you were drawning in garbage and rodents at the sidewalk. Pishmargeh militia were everywhere driving like maniacs in their tacticals in the middle of historical Erbil. Nobody spoke any language besides Kurdish. The people were very nice and helpful. A young commie taxi driver who knew some broken English tried to explain how their officials (Barezani) looted the entire oil money. It shouldn't come as a surprise that such a pseudo-state is collapsing. Landloced, surrounded by more powerful hostile nations, entirely dependent on foreign imports to feed its population. Nah it can't work. And the prospects for establishment of a unified Kurdish state are grim, if not non-existent.
May I ask are you a Kurd or a Persian?
@zakariyashakir4091 if you knew my ethnicity, you would simply label me as enemy and consider my words as lies. If not and if you believe that one can be a fair man regardless of his ethnicity here it is: I'm an Iranian Azerbaijani Turk. We, as a family, have several Kurdish friends in our city and visit each other regularly.
I understand your points, which are fully valid. To be honest however, that does not mean a state will not be able to run or exist for that matter.
There are other parts of Iraq and also Iran that are without electricity for some parts of the day. Yet they continue to exist as countries.
These are issues we will have to work on and resolve by ourselves. Do not forget that we are after all , isolated by 4 countries that hate our existence.
The garbage collection services are better now than before.
The fact that they all spoke Kurdish in Hewlêr (Erbil), well, what would you expect?
It would be like me going to Bam, speaking to people in Kurdish while they all speak Persian. It is unfortunate though that English is not more widespread in order for local inhabitants and tourists to communicate with each other in a more effective manner.
@@behroozkhaleghiradSənin kürdlər üçün dediklərin İrandakı türklər üçün də keçərlidir. Kürdlər kürd dili bilirlər, bu yaxşıdır. Nəyə görə fars dilini bilməlidirlər? İnsan oğlu hər itin-qurdun dilini bilməlidirmi?
@@blueseahorse6846İnsanlar öz ana dillərindən başqa dili bilmək məcburiyyətində deyildirlər. İngilislər öz ana dillərindən başqa dil bilmirlər.
Part of why the KRG was able to remain for so long was that during Arab-majority Iraq's darkest war years it existed as an oxygen valve for those who were able to take a break from the violence in an oasis of Kurdish stability. This is why there are so many hotels in the north. Families from Baghdad could come up for Eid per example and not have fret about the prospect of a mass casualty attack. But now that federally-controlled Iraq is largely at peace, the KRG is far less necessary to tolerate.
they simply dont care, and past is past lets work for a better kurdistan@watup3494
@watup3494as a kurd i dont know what youre talking about
@watup3494 You must be joking. Firstly, Karbala is an Arabic name and means distress and affliction (the word “affliction” you took from Arabic). Secondly, “Kurdistan” was the land of the Assyrians. The evidence is that every time I hear that you have found traces of the Assyrians, they are Semites, by the way, and the Arabs are Semites, so they are our cousins and the Akkadians as well, and you are Indo-Europeans who do not support the land of the Semites. In addition to the fact that the Sumerians are not confirmed by scholars as to who they were, but many believe that they were also Semites. You came from Iran and took the land of the Semites.
@@user-cw7kb2lo3k Bro really pulled a "we wuz semites" card 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-cw7kb2lo3kI don't think the ancient world was neatly divided into Semites and Indo-Europeans.
I feel very sorry for Kurds because they seem to be very separated from each other :(
@@gladiuspax2390 Kurds are an ethnic Iranian people. Breaking off from Turkiye or the other two Arap states may make sense but eventually they would join their Iranian brethren in Rojhilat
كوردستان المقسمة رغم انوف الاتراك وعرب والفرس سيتحد ونظال شعب كوردي يشهد لذلك فمن خلال تضحياتنا ودمائنا اخذنا بعض اجزاء كوردستان من عراق وبٲذن الله سيلة سوريا وايران وتركيا ونكون دولة كوردية وسيصبح واقع حال ولدينا الحق فالارض ارضنا وانتهی.
Kürdistan çökmez. Yaşasın Kürdistan 🇹🇯✌🏻
The world worries about the Palestinians who have resorted to terrorism and continue to threaten the existence or Israel. The Kurds who have resisted terrorism and fought against local terrorists groups. Yet no one helps the Kurds.
Because Kurds are not recognized , unlike Palestine , unfortunately
Kurds just got used and thrown by west and everyone
Palestinians have been living in apartheid for 75 years and they have suffered more than anyone but still presevered. Israel is a facist state and you’re going to defend them. The kurds have been part of fighting terrorism but the not fought off all most of it so you’re giving them too much cred. The main fighters against terrorism have been Syria and Iraq, so if anyone is going to get help, it’s them.
@@honeycomb2368 They have been living a self imposed isolation. It isn’t apartheid they are another nation and not Israeli citizens. They have continually tried to destroy Israel. They deserve nothing from Israel. If the Arab states care so much about them let them immigrate. Most of them aren’t originally from Palestine anyway most of them are from Egypt when their forefathers immigrated to Palestine when it was under British rule. The British barred Jewish immigration but allowed whole sale muslim immigration.
@@honeycomb2368 palestenians don't even compare to what Kurds suffered , chemical bombing and burying alive by apartheid arabs they suffered from Arab terrorism since 100 years , Arabs teortized their children more than hundred of thousands
@@honeycomb2368 no one cares about Palestinians even animal are more expensive than them
Before being independent, we should see the politicians first, are they going to make your new country prosperous or just a corrupted and mismanaged country? Making a new independent state of Kurdistan is unrealistic especially when many Kurdish factions are fighting each other for dominantion, yes you determine yourself for the Kurds, but in after being independent, you will determine yourself for money, because Kurds only have a unified culture, but Kurds do not have a unified ideology. And having status quo with a guaranteed language and cultural right is the only way. And not to talk about Middle East politicians, there is only money and woman inside their brain.
Hopefully they keep it together bzhi kurds
Thank you to gorge W Bush
As a -nationalist- Turc I like watch endless soap opera so call Kurdistan.
I'd like to straight answer to your question ... what was wrong? Simple ... America ... when Kurds start dance with American music they lost their future. Let's be realistic, America can't stand there forever, right? Soon or later (looks like soon) they pack-up and left. Can you imagine what's happen next? Last American Airplane left the tarmac shlt show will start for them. Who protect Kurds after Americans? Russians? China? Maybe EU? (Rofl) ... what a soap opera!
Kendini becer
The US should support Kurdish independence.
Us..is not your friend. Stick to your own counties
Any artificial entity subject to external forces, no matter how long the circumstances of its existence, the inevitability of its collapse is certain.
For sure, same applies to the central government which run by Argentine
تركيا دولة مصتنعة و نصف دول العربية كمان مصتنعة!!!
True
Mosul was left to Iraq with the 1926 Ankara Treaty on the condition of non disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of Iraq in any case- Turkish view is if Iraq is balkanised Turkey will have a claim in Northern Iraq.
Yes true.
Great, I will become a turk. Please give me a better salary.😂😂😂😂
@@lmao5070 300 $ enough?
@@randomhuman5525 no? I get 800 a month🤓 give me more
@@lmao5070 No.
Another great, unbiased summary, Thank You!
Thank you so much.