I'm in fabrication and use alot of precision tig welding but I gave up on using an auto dark lense I got my starts and stops perfect with a dark lense so for me the auto isn't useful .... but even when I was stick welding most of the time I couldn't stand those .... I got a bad headache round by lunch break due to the very small exposures before the lenses go dark. But not everyone has that issue and for those whose eyes are less sensitive or dont need bifocals they are the best thing to have ... like everything we all got our preferences use what works for you brother. Only thing to do is experiment
Keep in mind the auto tint lenses when not in use are a comfortable shade 5. It's all about personal preferences. Good luck, I'm still running project across the country. Stay Safe!
I was picking up some wire and tips at Praxair the other day and priced out the HD version of that lenses and it was $150, I left it right there LOL I've gambled a bit with the Ebay knockoff lenses and it's a hit or miss with those, but at $4 a piece I risk it once and a while. I got a couple that where good and then a slew of them that are all trash and not worth the plastic they came in LOL But I always carry a back up fixed shade close by with the auto tint lenses.
I'd rather spring for an auto darkening lens than stray arc on across a bellows... lol... the OPTREL NOVA is good for TIG but you have to keep it in sunlight between jobs or it wont work come the next shutdown season... they're available at Acklands... Regards from 146!
Yes the delay time on the Miller is about 1/125th of a second! You can fit up, mill prep, all the essentials of tube welding with your hood down. Therefore reducing the chance of arc flash from your rig as well as other craft in the work area. When the auto hoods first came out I swore I would NEVER own one! Now wouldn't be caught w/o it! Just my professional opinion. Been a Union BM FOR over 30 years.
this might be a really silly question, but couldn't you flood the work area with a silly amount of light, so you can see through your regular lens? 80 dollars buys multiple thousand lumens worth of portable lighting nowadays.
Good question but no that wouldn't work because welding lenses are shaded so dark that even in a extremely lit area you still can't see through them. A welding arc is so bright it can burn your eyes in a few seconds of looking at it. That's why they have to be shaded so dark.
The question is? Can you put a cost on your vision? For the last 10-12 years I've used the Miller XL Elite! Have had it in many tight spots, mirror welds, buddy welds etc. Love the Miller XL! When I bought mine back in about 05 they cost 300.00 plus! Still have the one in operation!
Doug Wisdom any auto tint is worse for your vision than a solid shade technically because of the very short delay between switching shades. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard a good thing about the miller all I’ve ever heard is complaints.
@@JTwelder. I have to say that’s not correct. Since the auto lens are blocking all IR and UV 100% of the time even if it fails to darken. It darkens fast enough that there is no danger.
I run a headlight below my flip but I still have a solid lens. I'm going to be Getting another auto lens and see what it's like with the headlamp in the dark
I got the new Lincoln adjustable. 8-13 insert. I use it for all processes and never get flashed. Been using it for 5 months and its the best product I have used. Check out my video review.
dan tsy 1. Way too big and bulky 2. Replacement cover lenses are costly and uncommon 3. We beat on our shields in the field and they need replacement every so often so spending $400 on a shield is senseless when you know your gonna break it 4. Could get stolen 5. The 2x4s they have now are top of the line and just compact versions of the full auto helmets example there’s a Lincoln 4c 2x4 now on the market and Optrel makes a awesome 2x4 also 6. Flip fronts are highly useful in the field 7. A lot of auto shields don’t fit on a hard hat. 8. Auto shields are usually heavy and the flip front field shields are usually ultra light.
Michael Smith if your welding on something that doesn’t have a lot of tight spaces like a storage tank nobody would say anything because that would work. Once you get into a boiler or doing pipe in position you run out of space and guys would try and give your their old shields to use.
My dad was a boilermaker he bought a mig welder for me to learn auto body before he passed away been looking for a better lens thx for the info
david davis no problem man!
I'm in fabrication and use alot of precision tig welding but I gave up on using an auto dark lense I got my starts and stops perfect with a dark lense so for me the auto isn't useful .... but even when I was stick welding most of the time I couldn't stand those .... I got a bad headache round by lunch break due to the very small exposures before the lenses go dark. But not everyone has that issue and for those whose eyes are less sensitive or dont need bifocals they are the best thing to have ... like everything we all got our preferences use what works for you brother. Only thing to do is experiment
7 months you probably made 50k 😂 buy a new one and get back to work ! Your a welder we ball out 💰💰💰
I use a shade 10 auto darkening lens but I also keep a shade 10 and 11 fixed lens for extra Incase my auto brakes.
I prefer passive shade 11 in my flip front
Keep in mind the auto tint lenses when not in use are a comfortable shade 5. It's all about personal preferences. Good luck, I'm still running project across the country. Stay Safe!
what local are you out of? im 128
Everything about this mask is fantastic Works as described. Contact the seller if you encounter issues with this welding mask.
Were did u get that frame
I was picking up some wire and tips at Praxair the other day and priced out the HD version of that lenses and it was $150, I left it right there LOL
I've gambled a bit with the Ebay knockoff lenses and it's a hit or miss with those, but at $4 a piece I risk it once and a while. I got a couple that where good and then a slew of them that are all trash and not worth the plastic they came in LOL
But I always carry a back up fixed shade close by with the auto tint lenses.
RCRCustoms yeah man I’ve been doing the exact same thing!
I'd rather spring for an auto darkening lens than stray arc on across a bellows... lol... the OPTREL NOVA is good for TIG but you have to keep it in sunlight between jobs or it wont work come the next shutdown season... they're available at Acklands... Regards from 146!
Yes the delay time on the Miller is about 1/125th of a second! You can fit up, mill prep, all the essentials of tube welding with your hood down. Therefore reducing the chance of arc flash from your rig as well as other craft in the work area. When the auto hoods first came out I swore I would NEVER own one! Now wouldn't be caught w/o it! Just my professional opinion. Been a Union BM FOR over 30 years.
Doug Wisdom that’s a good way to look at it! Yeah I’m still in between the two. I’m gonna run the fixed shade for a month and see how I feel
Used a passive forever. Get free adf at work. So i use (and love) it,all day ,everyday.
this might be a really silly question, but couldn't you flood the work area with a silly amount of light, so you can see through your regular lens? 80 dollars buys multiple thousand lumens worth of portable lighting nowadays.
Good question but no that wouldn't work because welding lenses are shaded so dark that even in a extremely lit area you still can't see through them. A welding arc is so bright it can burn your eyes in a few seconds of looking at it. That's why they have to be shaded so dark.
The question is? Can you put a cost on your vision? For the last 10-12 years I've used the Miller XL Elite! Have had it in many tight spots, mirror welds, buddy welds etc. Love the Miller XL! When I bought mine back in about 05 they cost 300.00 plus! Still have the one in operation!
Doug Wisdom any auto tint is worse for your vision than a solid shade technically because of the very short delay between switching shades. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard a good thing about the miller all I’ve ever heard is complaints.
@@JTwelder. I have to say that’s not correct. Since the auto lens are blocking all IR and UV 100% of the time even if it fails to darken. It darkens fast enough that there is no danger.
Can you provide a link to it and model etc.
Thanks!
Cool video btw 👍
That's an Arc One Tradesman
www.amazon.com/ArcOne-T240-10-Tradesman-Horizontal-Auto-Darkening/dp/B003WE9XXQ/ref=pd_aw_lpo_469_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NFCGEVW4CRNMTFGPQ4XV
BM Local 455!
Can this auto darkening lens fits in the fibre metal tigerhood?
Yes
Good review Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Shade 11-12 for tig boys
Get a tradesman shade 12 they work good
I had a tradesman shade 10 and it broke after 8 months.
Auto darkening is okay for pipeline but if your gonna be working in the dark or some not good
I run a headlight below my flip but I still have a solid lens. I'm going to be Getting another auto lens and see what it's like with the headlamp in the dark
@@JTwelder. let me know how it’s goes cause I’m thinking of getting one in shade 12 for tig
I got the new Lincoln adjustable. 8-13 insert. I use it for all processes and never get flashed. Been using it for 5 months and its the best product I have used. Check out my video review.
Amazon affiliate that shit Brodie
Why dont you wear tf he big autodark helmets in th ed field. I don't get it
dan tsy 1. Way too big and bulky 2. Replacement cover lenses are costly and uncommon 3. We beat on our shields in the field and they need replacement every so often so spending $400 on a shield is senseless when you know your gonna break it 4. Could get stolen 5. The 2x4s they have now are top of the line and just compact versions of the full auto helmets example there’s a Lincoln 4c 2x4 now on the market and Optrel makes a awesome 2x4 also 6. Flip fronts are highly useful in the field 7. A lot of auto shields don’t fit on a hard hat. 8. Auto shields are usually heavy and the flip front field shields are usually ultra light.
Michael Smith if your welding on something that doesn’t have a lot of tight spaces like a storage tank nobody would say anything because that would work. Once you get into a boiler or doing pipe in position you run out of space and guys would try and give your their old shields to use.