9:45 Relationship Between Genesis 1 and 2 53:42 Fantastic Question about "when you eat it, you will surely die" 39:53 Other people before Adam and Eve (Cain wife's, Cain's City etc)
The people we meet are usually archetypes of Biblical personages. Then we realize what role to take, how to be acting in Christ, how to respond to that situation.
The tree called The Tree of Life represents the love of God, the kind of love God possesses which is accessed through the atonement of Jesus Christ. After Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil they could no longer partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life because they had sinned and needed to repent. The sword that protected the way of the Tree of Life was a representation of God’s Justice. Once Adam and Eve (us) sin we need to repent and accept Christ then we are allowed to partake of God’s love (the Tree of Life). Genesis is largely a temple text designed to teach us the gospel and how to return to God.
Thats what I find odd about a lot of these Western Scholars. Theyll say 'We have to view it in the lens of the culture.' But then they kinda ignore that culture's legacy in the way of understanding how Rabbis view some of these texts. And not all rabbis adhere to orthodoxy. Theres a handful that do. But they don't necessarily view Genesis the way Walton does either. Its very odd.
This is fabulous. It opens a whole range of study subjects, and for 50-plus years I've wanted to know where the line is between science and biblical accounts. The truth must be evidenced in both, surely. I've ordered the book and later, others.
God calls us to understand that the garden is the meeting place. Just like the scripture implies that the harvest is plentiful but the Labors are few. It’s not talking about fields, GOD is talking about people. The garden is the temple that GOD was in communication with His priests .
What Dr. Walton says about Genesis as an ancient document is paradoxically very complicated. I'm not sure that the writer of Genesis thought creation as complicated as him. I am happy to accept Genesis 1-3 as it is for this reason: a) the writer's understanding of the world was that simple and he/she tried to communicate to ancient people. Imagine how boring it was for laypeople at the time to think about creation in a complicated way, b) the stories are polemic against other culture's mythologies. The same principle applies to Noah's ark and other stories in Genesis 1-11. I believe that the writer thought that it was a flood on the whole earth (obviously it was not the whole earth). But then I don't think that the writer was lying or stupid. It was what it was, the writer was wrong based on our modern perspective but we cannot judge them as lying or stupid. This is the way I accept the limitation of human's telling of God's authority and love without losing my faith in Christianity.
@@rogercaldwell2440 have you done enough research yourself? For example, on the fact that the writers themselves didn't know that the earth was round and the whole earth area was much larger than Mesopotamia and around? They wrote something based on what they knew, not based on what we know today. The flood story itself was not a new story; Sumerians told the story much earlier before Jews did, framing the story in a different point of view. The story then was told among Akkadians and Babylonians. How do we know? Because Jewish community as a group of people was relatively new in comparison to Sumerians and Akkadians. These groups of people were also much more influential in terms of politics, culture, and economy than Jewish community was in the ancient world.
@@endrokristanto2583 There is absolutely nothing that indicates the Biblical writers did not know the earth is round. Their Cosmology was not based on Natural Process or Natural features as ours is. Since their model is Hyper-Physical then you have to ask yourself 'Why was it Hyper-Physical?' For the same reason they might ask 'Why our model is Naturalistic and not Hyper-Physical?' Because they viewed the world as colliding and interacting with Spiritual forces and other worlds such as 'The heavens' and such as 'The Underworld.' Their depiction of ancient Cosmology does not indicate they thought the earth was flat. It indicates they viewed Creation in a far more ordered and more complex way than even we do. They understood the hierarchy of Creation. They understood there was a very high order - the first heaven where God is. There was a secondary order which was comprised of 'the heavens' then there is our Realm - the Earth or that which is Physical. Then there is the order of the Underworld comprised of Gehenna, Sheol and Tartarus. Their Cosmology reflected THIS not that they viewed the earth as a flat disk.
@@endrokristanto2583 You don't know the timeline. The Sumerian and other "Legends" can and do all refer to the same event. The antideluvian world was not like this one.
In John 9:6 Jesus spat on the ground (dust) and made clay to heal a blind man. The tree of life refers to the paradise of God. It is not an antidote for sin. Rev 2:7. It’s also a soothing tongue, wisdom, hope, gentle words, good deeds, and the fruit of the righteous.
i have zero problems taking Genesis literally. i don't know what's the alternative and proper way of taking Genesis otherwise? it can't be all "metaphors" otherwise there was no 1st man, no original sin, no fall of mankind, no need for redemption, no genealogy that leads to Jesus, no flood, no satan as a serpent who will be defeated by Jesus, no fallen angels/nephilim, no Abraham, no burning bush, no the great I AM, no Noah, no ark, nothing! Bible has ABSOLUTELY metaphors, but if you opt to take everything as a metaphor, then it all comes to subjective interpretation without the absolute truth! and there you have cults, skepticism, and other side "effects" of one's subjective interpretation of too much metaphors.
Bravo ! Dr. Walton. It makes sense to me why Jesus "Good news," put so much emphasis on the kingdom of God. Near east, middle east etc. the kings had Private Gardens for repose , these were forbidden entery unless it was with consent.Additionally, the king was often the Gardener. himself. I can only imagine and wonder what was God's vision for Adam Race in the Eden
This was greatly appreciated. That is why Yahusha was chosen to take the First Adam Place as High Priest forever. Yahusha had to be fully human because he was the Second Adam, Son of Man! HalleluYah!
frankie oja No. Adam took the place of the Adam. Jesaiah, Joshua, Selah and Jesus came later. Don't play with the chronology. There is a time for everything. Every time had its man that connected the Earth with The Heavens.
I was just watching another video/interview with Walton titled, 'Old Test. theology for Christians'. As one of the go to guys for ancient near East studies, I couldn't have been more disappointed in his replacement theology - replacement covenant of Israel, disregard for God's land and the Jewish people. Amazing that someone can be so knowledgeable in one area and so profoundly blind in another. Newsflash Christian's; You'd Did Not Replace Israel. You're guests in the Covenant. Romans 11. Don't be so Arrogant.
The old replaced the new. He’s not talking about replacement theology You assumed that but that’s not what he is explaining. And Israel and Jewish people are not some special ethnic group. We are all in Christ period. It’s insane how the Christian world only cares about their own personal doctrinal views. Instead of what the scriptures ACTUALLY SAYS . If anything goes against a person’s personal doctrine it becomes an offense. No body cares about the context of scriptures all people care about in the Christian world is each mama personal doctrine
Eve coming out of Adam's rib doesn't conflict with science because the rib is the only part of the human body that can regenerate if surgically removed and God the creature knows this and He is the best surgeon.
@@Duvall9042343 It conflicts with Genesis 1;27 Where God said He made man; Man male and female at the same time, Created he them male and female created he them . Genesis 1;27.So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28.And God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: We should be able to grow a woman out of a mans rib if what you are sayings true.The point of the story has nothing with the physical reality of how humans were created.Ah But how they think. and how they learned it.
Because in TORAH there are no chapters. These were added by Rome and keep everyone confused would reads. On 6th day humankind was created. Nameless. On 7th was rest, and 8th was when YHVH Aleph-Tav continued to create, so HE allocated for HIMSELF a center of earth: Eden with a SEPARATE man that was to rule and be a priest, first Melech Tsadik= Righteous King of Earth, who later failed.
@@vedinthorn Just saying what? Jesus wasn't in Paradise that day according to many Christians - he went to hell (apparently) to lose the souls from there. Aside from that you need to read the Bible holistically and from the point of view of the first century readers. You will never come up with the idea of immortal souls or going to heaven when you die if you do that. Jesus said "I say to you today, you will be with me in Paradise" and I have no problem with that.
@@richardmorgan3938 The soul is not immortal scripture makes that very clear. That being said upon death the spirit returns to God and the Soul is escorted to Hades to await a resurrection; This is also supported by scripture. Just thought you should know the difference, The soul that sins shall die; also supported by scripture.
but the word Adam comes form Adamah which is the red soil of earth..... The point is that we need to read the Bible in the original language and the true meaning will come if you have the ability to set your mind in the same mind frame of the time that was written.... this guy is just speculating on a possible interpretation.... is just an interpretation and for that I think that a Hebrew Rabi has more chances to get to the bottom than any other....
Walter Pierluissi Etymology The traditional etymology of his name comes from Josephus (Josephus, Antiquities 1, 1, 2), who describes Adam as “the red one,” relating his name to the Hebrew adjective אדם ('dm), meaning “red” or “ruddy.” Adam means “man” or “mankind/humankind” and is a wordplay on the Hebrew term אדמה ('dmh), meaning, “ground.” This wordplay demonstrates the intimate relationship between humankind and the dust of the earth (Gen 2:7) from which the first man was fashioned. “Adam” is used both as a name and a title in Scripture, referring to his identity as the first human and his status as the representative of humanity before God.
i think so too. the Yale university Intro to the Old testament is also good. Christian scholars and preachers are good but jewish people for sure almost always know more if they have a passion for scripture or teach it at university level. as christians we don't really have to know the meaning of everything but it makes the bible a lot more understandable knowing the original context and meaning
Well, this is what happens when kids go to Seminary and don't ask questions and dont challenge ideas. Of course, if youre ignorant you cant do that. I was constantly challenging ideas because I knew enough to do so. Very quickly I got tired of hearing 'primary sources' that I knew were tainted or even forged. Youd be surprised how many primary sources are referenced in Seminaries that were actually forged. And information on what was forged and authentic is always being updated. Like Ignatius letters which only 2 are authentic of the 2 authentic letters both were subjected to the Expurgatory Index to make them align more with 12th century Catholic dogma. They dont talk about this stuff in Seminary... EVER.
'Death' also means 'separation from God' which is equal to the spiritual death or a fall or a step down, from a higher level of consciousness to a lower level of consciousness. Even though God did not separate from Adam and Chava as God accompanied them when they were being evicted from the Garden of Eden, in their perception or from their spiritual life, God appeared to become absent. They 'fell' from Spiritual Consciousness to a earthly or lower level of consciousness.
Very true. There are 3 deaths mentioned in Biblical texts. Physical death which is separation of the spirit/soul from the body. Spiritual death which is separation from God and 3. The 2nd death which is eternal separation from God forever following judgement.
So to summarize, the way to defend the faith (apologetics) is to twist scripture to make it say something to fit the current secular persons theory about the origin of life.
The wholesome tongue is a tree of life, and he that keeps it shall be filled with understanding. Pro 15:4 [Sept] Jesus (the Word of God Incarnate) is the fruit of the most wholesome tongue. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is vengeance. Vengeance belongs to God. When Adam and Eve ate of it, they took vengeance on God for the lie that Satan said God told them. They stole His fruit and, since they couldn't punish God any other way, hid from Him and His wholesome tongue. At the same time, they realized how vulnerable they were to vengeance.
Would like to know what Dr. Walton thinks about some of people in the past who held to a Pre Adamic race, or race outside Eden, which seems to parallel his interpretation. There are racial implications that have been exploited in past centuries.
Genesis chapter 2 is not a sequel it is recapitulative because the six days of creation are not 24 hour days they are a long but finite period of time.
I wish I had a dollar for every person I've talked to who absolutely finds Walton's views of Genesis way 'off the mark.' Many have complained his presuppositions are weak, dubious and highly debatable. He appears to be trying to add metaphysical philosophy to biblical theology and the mix is a disaster! His 'Lost' books are just that; lost in a mire of confusion and contradiction.
Ask yourself if you have already read the Bible, Why does the Bible talk very little about the first man and woman on the planet and what happen and what happen after they left the garden and their struggles, not just having a few children and about Cain killing Abel? Do you not think that they would be the most important 2 people in the Bible to talk about and yet very little is said. That is why each and everyone should read the Book of Adam and Eve. Please learn about them.
The Shocking Truth About Adam and Eve Relationship Once you come out of the “Christianity” you will begine to understand scripture. First, Adam and Eve was together when the beast of the field deceived Eve, Here's proof: Genesis 3: 5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate. If you notice the beast said: “and ye shall be as gods,” because more then one person was their. Genesis 3: 6 and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate. Mentally Eve was over Adam, I know this is hard to believe Here's proof: Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception. In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” Now let’ define the word sorrow in Genesis 3:16 , in more modern terms. My Father greatly multiply Eve "grief, regret, trouble, care, pain, anxiety," now she’s very emotional. Now Eve desire was for my Father, Now my Father made her desire for Adam, now mentally Adam is over Eve. If Eve was not Mentally over Adam, How else could she get Adam to eat the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden. Now check this scripture out: 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression. Now check this scripture out: Genesis 5:2 Male and female created He them, and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created.
It is. Very good talks to learn lots of things though how far these are true only thing how much we believe that s Because nobody can say what is true and what is not just we have to believe. Thanks
(I am only 30minutes into the video) Interestingly many Hassidic Jews if am not mistaken do not at all see it this way God taking Adams side and making two in the way described here. I was fascinated to listen to a Rabbi say that BEFORE we read of Eve being a seperate bodily person as such, the ''Male and female He created them'', and LATER he takes this FEMALE part of ''Ha Adam'' (Literally THE ADAM who was both male and female! WOW!) and seperated them as it was not good for man to be alone... God was showing them something. He, Ha Adam, could see and name all the animals and see them, but not see his own parrtner. So Godput him to sleep, and brough Eve OUT of him! WOW! A reasomning behind Rabbinic thinking here when they choose to see it as ''side'' is they recognise our duality, "tshuva" or "teshuva" versus yetzer hara (Godly/repentant nature vs sinful nature) two eyes, two sides, two legs etc, so may be on target here, and fits with some other Biblical patterns so we are told. remember NONE of this Christian theology existed back then till even much later than Christ, so much of what is being said hear would bewilder many jewish people. And they see the Garden story as God knowing full well as an Ancient of Days or Eternal Being, telling fresh and innocent beings ''don't touch that plant!'', i mean come on (thinks Hassidic teacher i have been l;istening to) ... think about it, from their perspective, NOT our Christianized perspective, at least to sound it out) and they do not see a ''punishment'' in the way we do. The just see a maturing, and growing up, and CHOOSING to come down to this lower sphere to do a mission! And to grow till we get it right, or indeed, an't and Messiah comes and sorts us all out. They do NOT see it as an apple, but usually, and not always a fig (he explains why, but kids might be reading) and may well have included sexuality, (which wasn't a sin for them, BUT did mean child bearing naturally and consequentially would be an effect, and working and tilling the earthly ground and caring for it and so on. In Eden (meaning Pleasure basically) they had nothing to learn, and everything was there for them. So was time to head out and go grow into a fully fledged bunch of beings. (But in God's time NOT our time) And we need remember too that God will honour His promise and Faithfullness for His Name's Sake to the Jews when Christ reuturns for the next part of the mission. So i do get annoyed to see other Christ believers ripping into good Rabbis and telling THEM... what a cheek. BUt yes, was fascinating to hear it from their point of view, and the forces at play and psychology was incredible! So dispite our differeing viewpoint, none-the-less was so MUCH to learn from them having passed thgese teachings down since they were stories which woulkd be told round fires and so on. And actually read as such once we know that, part poetry, part story, and part allegory to explain about God's nature as much as man's ''corruption''. And pointed out TWO sides to the 'serpent'' imagery in biblical stories. One is the wise''sublte'' serpent (It did NOT actually say ''subtle'' in context in Hebrew tradition, but Arum, whereas Ha Adam and Eve (a name i don't think she was given, at least ion the telling till afterwards? And Adam Loved her as she is the 'mother of life and to be honoured not degraded) were descibed as Armumim (plural) and sort of emans naked but most think it meansa little more than this. And they recognise there ARE peices missing as they do not and cannot make proper sense of them at all. And they should know as they've had a few millenia head start! The Tree of Life, we may see as Christ, but that is US! And the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is the birth of the system we insist on keeping ourselves captives within depsite all our mighty religion! But God has been preparing us all the whole time. Jew and gentile alike since. So jews too say. here are so many different ways they interpret their teaching to Christian ways. But not all are what the ignorant call''anti-Christ'', and we need sometiems take note to better understand ourselves maybe? BUT very very fascinating (was by Rabbi Manis Friedman in this instance)
Spiritual and physical death introduced by Adam and Eve were covered and paid for by Christ. The Fall of Adam was a part of God’s plan; in other words God knew Adam and Eve would partake of the forbidden fruit and so provided a Savior. Because of the Fall of Adam, mankind would be born into a physical world without remembrance of our pre-earth life. Here on this earth we are tested to see if we will choose Him or not. We choose Him by believing Jesus is the Christ, repenting of our sins, being baptized and enduring to the end of our lives. “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins”. Acts 2:38. “... but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Mark 13:13 Because of the Fall we all will die but because of Christ we will all be resurrected. Following the resurrection we will stand before God to be judged. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:25-29 I’m thankful for my Savior, Jesus Christ.
What about the human "soul" that so many believe leaves at death and goes off to heaven or some other place? Where does it say in the creation account that the human God created has this immaterial, ethereal, diaphanous, "aspect" that embodies or contains our conscious mind? According to Ps 146:4 (KJV) His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
@@KvDenko OK, I watched Intro to spiritual beings and Elohim. There are quite a few videos in the Bible Project channel. Did you have one video in mind?
Another, TH-cam video, John Walsh says his views of Genesis are not really “traditional“ evangelical views. In fact, he creates his own reality by twisting scripture in order to fit an evolutionarily hypothesis.
And God formed the man of dust of the earth, and breathed upon his face the breath of life, and the man became a living soul. John 9:6 When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes, Job 10:9 [Sept] Remember that thou hast made me as clay, and thou dost turn me again to earth.
I love and appreciate Dr. Walton. He takes you to the biblical text and seeks to understand it in the historical context in which it was written. Along with Gordon Fee and Doug Stuart, (How to Read the Bible for All It's Worth), he believes that the Word of God was written *to them* (the original audience) *but is for us*. Having said that, I have to demur over his view of a "historical Adam and Eve." I think *he is still thinking too literally when it comes to their historicity*. The text - in historical creation myth context -- simply doesn't support that view. Having come so far in, understanding the text, he abandons the historical and literary context and bows the knee before an overly literalistic reading of Genesis 2.
Did he just say the NIV is a good interpretation lol he had me up until he said that one the NIV changes things, missing books, and the english used is a more modren version of english which alot of words have change their meaning and can be used in different sentences and have its meaning change based upon how its use in the sentence
marb.u.b Ⓜ True. It is very evident that the source documents for the septuagint where not written in Greek due to all the word plays in Hebrew, Aramaic and other semetic and indian words and concepts.
Too many assumptions both way. The man's exposition shows that it is very difficult to stick to the literal words of the text. The words have a multiplicity of meaning. He thinks he has to select a single meaning. Not true, just like in all ancient languages both the literal, archetypal and transcendental meaning are there and intended. They all are intended. This is even more true with regards to documents being the end point of a long oral tradition by an initially small group of people. He lacks fantasy.
ONESTAGETOSPACE sir, are you an Old Testament Scholar who have invested your life Studying the hebrew text and Ancient Near East background? please. Don't force your beliefs into the text. God's word is so much richer and powerful than what you think. God bless you.
The literal words of the text aren’t English, it’s Hebrew; and the problem is that the Hebrew doesn’t mean what people generally think it means. Your viewpoint is very ethnocentric.
@@BeefyPreacher Indeed. If one looks at the first word of the Bible "beresheit", the part in the Bible that was written during the polytheistic period, you know, the entire period that only ended with the father of Abraham; then we immediately see reference to other gods in that first word, when one properly splits up the word in its constituent parts. One of them refers to Ash, short for Asherah/fire and it calls Asherah the one who creates time. The word, in one of several possible literal readings with the immediately following letters says: "Wild Fire, Asherah, time creates" and then continues with talking about the God El who also creates. Man and woman, their son 'yam' or Elyam is also mentioned in the first words. This is a well-known triad of local gods, right their in the first verse. One word is an entire sentence, or more, when properly analyzed and read. Of course, a dogmatic view would call that blasphemy; but to lovers of language, versed in the context of the history of the narration and its brothers, or accepting the O.T. for what it is, the rehashing of the narration of older cultures for self-serving purposes, and the history of the evolution from word-pictures to words, this is perfectly normal.
if Adam and Eve were immortal, how could they die if they ate of the tree of good and evil? bodies and souls die Ezekiel 18:20 we sin because in us are the lust of the eye the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. we did not ask to be born with those traits, it was all by design Romans 8:20 so that at the end GOD could have mercy on all HIS children.. is important when reading the bible we pay attention to every word. it works.
I'd like to get what this guy smokes...lol..he's trying to figure out the bible with his clustered human intelligence. ..it's the Holy Spirit that reveals the truth of the bible...it's not a carnal book..and you won't understand spiritual things with carnal intellect. .
My goodness how is this presentation worthwhile other than to make the presenter seem knowledgeable and important. Certainly does nothing for the Kingdom in my opinion.
@@lmhayes60 fair-enough. If you want to hear more about genesis from conservative Christian you should try: - Reasons to Believe - Truth Unites - John Lennox - Johnathan McLatchie Have a good one. God Bless!
@@lmhayes60 it's OK. But I'm not talking about political conservatism. That drive trucks and shoot rifles in the air :))) I'm talking about people like John Lennox (7 days that divide the world) - there is a lesson on TH-cam and I think you'll like it
I believe the second creation that you Christians say is when Eve is created. I believe that the Hebrew list a different Christian god. The word used for Eve is not Eve. This god also tells them to leave their parents. Big 10 says to honor your mother and father. Angels brought the law. The OT god is not Jesus dad.
2 type of eden tree is actually a metaphor,..why make a theology out of it?... 🤔.. Or our theology only the way we make sense (in our time) to the (ancient) narrative such genesis....
He is teaching disbelief in the Bible. He said "Adam didn't call Eve Eve". God's word says "Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living"(Genesis 3.20). Adam gave to his wife a meaningful title, which God may well have given in its original form when He caused Genesis to be written. For him to be dismissive of the inspired Bible statement is shameful. To then compound his error with flippancy about calling each other "honey and sweetie", is indicative of his lack of reverence for God's word.
Their "names" are literally the words "humanity" and "life". They are Hebrew words, but Hebrew didn't exist until Moses time, therefore, the actual people could not use those exact words.
Adam was certainty not 1st man. Scripture means what it says & says what it means. So when Jesus said from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female’.. Gen1:1 Mk10:6 Matt19:4 Mk13:19 Heb1:10 This act which Jesus referred was: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male & female created he them & God blessed them’, & God said to them, “Be fruitful, & multiply, & Replenish the EARTH, & subdue it: & have dominion over the fish of the sea, & over the fowl of the air, & over every living thing that moves upon the EARTH & God said, Behold, I have given you EVERY. ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive ) herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, & EVERY tree, ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive) In the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.” Gen1:27-29 But when God made Adam & placed him in GARDEN God was very specific ; And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. & the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. & out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, & every fowl of the air; & brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: & whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Gen2:16-19 Adam was specifically told v2:17 not eat of Tree knowledge of good & evil. Gen1 & Gen2 are separate accounts. Time betwixt these 2events remains unspecified.. A GREAT error comes when one equates Gen1&Gen2 for they are very different events Jesus was clear, For He did not say from time of Garden He made Adam & Eve. But rather Jesus said: from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the "beginning" made them male & female Not Adam & Eve, not from dust, not from the time of garden. Jesus meant what was said & said what he meant, Adam, Eve,& garden were not in the creation... scripture means what is said and says what it means Man in Gen1 was made From nothing Ex-Nehlio... Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Yet Adam in Gen2 was formed from dust of ground & Eve was formed from Adam's rib... thus Adam & Eve of Gen2 are not made Ex-nehlio, from nothing, as were the man & woman in the beginning. Man & Woman of Gen1 were given dominion over all earth that was watered by a mist neither did Gen1 have dietary restriction as given Adam & Eve in a garden watered by 4 rivers. Gen1 & Gen2 are completely different events, scripture does not err. Jesus drew a line into the sands of time at Luke 16:16 The law & the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, & every man presseth into it. There were 4kYrs of sin prior to John. "Behold the Lamb slain from foundation of this world." When was this present sinful world founded? but in the day of ADAM'S sin. For then Adam&Eve were clothed in skin of slain lamb & a redeemer promised. there remain 3k years from Jesus death.. John 2:19 Jesus answered & said unto them, Destroy this temple, & in three days I will raise it up. The final event is specified. Rev21:22-23 & I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty & the Lamb are the temple of it. & the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, & the Lamb is the light thereof. Time between Gen1&Gen2 is Unspecified but finite. To equate Gen1&Gen2 as same events leads to great confusion There are many many facts to prove earth age is in excess of 6000Y BP, wiki article earth age completly refutes young earth psudoscience... and wiki cites just the most blatant proofs, there are others.
This is preposterous. “Male and female He created THEM”, is a reference to the fact that God made Adam - a man and Eve, a woman. Hence, “THEM”. It is not a reference to God having created MORE people than Adam and Eve. Jesus speaks to the fact of what marriage was “AT THE BEGINNING”, by referring to Adam and Eve. In the fall, how many people fell? “For as by ONE MAN sin entered the world and death by sin”, said Paul. When God made “Eve”, did he cause all males on the planet to fall asleep? Did He take a rib out of all males and bring forth multiple “Eve”? OR, did He cause the singular person Adam to fall asleep and took Eve from him? What about the New Testament doctrine that Adam - the FIRST person/man is the federal head of all humanity? “For as in Adam, ALL DIE…”. This is preposterous attempt of biblical theology, trying to make scripture fit science. And NO, Paul does NOT almost always refer to Adam and Eve as archetypes. And NO, we are not all literally formed from dust as Adam was. Adam was not conceived as an embryo in the womb of a woman and BORN. We are. This guy has no clue about what he is talking about. Just because the Hebrew word “formed” can ALSO be used in non-material ways, does not mean it is not material in the creation account of God “forming the dust”. Humanity is body, soul AND spirit, so obviously God formed the material, spiritual and metaphysical components of humans WHEN He formed the first man, Adam and the first woman, Eve.
Sorry, Mr. PHD Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, wich was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. And... For as by ONE MAN'S disobedience MANY were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE MANY shall be made righteous . Please, observe 1 Co 4:6 So that you may learn... not to go beyond what is written so that you don't become arrogant.
the koran says adam was made from clay..... i am sure the speaker unknowingly mentioned the right material which fits adam creation without knowing he was quoting from the koran. the koran seems to be realistic and rational. the bible says formed dust and it doesn't make sense however the koran mentions not dust but clay
The chosen slave The Koran says that when something is not clear you should read the Bible. The man is not quoting from the Koran. The genesis story is much more detailed in the Bible than it is in the Koran and the Sumerian genesis story is much older and more detailed than the Bible. A good place to start reading the Bible is Biblehub. You will have the book in its original language with translations in English.
If you want to find a sequel to Adam and Eve in Genesis, you may have to go to Revelations. God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. This is the same living soul that man will return to at the end of time. Adam was not just a living mortal. He became a mortal after he sinned. In the garden, he lived as a living soul. He wasn't naked because what he saw was a divine body similar to the angels. He could see God and all of the spiritual world around him. His normal eyes were closed and he saw through his divine eye. He did not walk as a human would but floated above the ground. He ate from the tree of life. This tree gave him immortality. If you read the books 1 and 2 of Adam and Eve, it would tell you that they had to learn to live as a mortal man. He didn't know the first thing of surviving in the wild. Leaving the garden of Eden changed them forever. In Revelations, God tells them that they and their ancestors will return to paradise along with the tree of life. They will be like Adam and Eve was living in the garden before they sinned. Adam and Eve is a precursor to what we will be like at the end of life.
Adam & Eve's spirit was in a physical body of flesh and bones, just like God's. They partook of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. If Adam had partaken of the Tree of Life, he would have lived forever, but alone. But, he didn't, he realized that they needed to follow the other commandment, which is "Multiply and Replenish the Earth. That is why we are all here. To follow the GREATER COMMANDMENT. Partaking of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil gave them the opportunity to CHOOSE Right from Wrong (FREE AGENCY).
What in the world is this guy RAMBLING about? 20 years of Bible study was wasted. The Tree of Life was not a remedy. Adam would have lived forever, by himself if he had partaken of the Tree of Life. Adam made a choice to follow the greater commandment, which was to "Multiply and Replenish the Earth." If they had not partaken of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, then we would not be here.
Biologos called, they want a distorted interpretation of Genesis 1,2&3. Dr. Walton answered the call. This man's teachings fit all too perfectly into the theistic evolution narrative.
Thank you. Exactly my thoughts. He used to be a 6-day creationist. Then his wife who is chemist or biochemist convinced him evolution was true. Then he re-interpreted scripture to make the conflict go away. Seems like a better approach would be to understand that evolution isn’t theory actually falling apart because it doesn’t work and re-interpret the Science in light of the Bible. See almost anything by Behe, Stephen Meyer, and “Theistic Evolution” by Grudem et al
You don't have to go back to Hebrew to understand the bible. If you are an english speaker, King James and a dictionary that gives the archaic meanings of words will suffice. Did God intend for only those who speak Hebrew to know the bible? No, He said, "Go into all the world." The God that spoke through man and gave them the bible, can speak through men today and guide their translations.
If you read the bible you would know the questions you are asking , Look for the Books of ADAM AND EVE ..... It explains your questions......AND gives ANSWERS.... The bible does not have all the answers about Adam and eve as the story was taken from KNOWN STORIES.... (the book of Adam and Eve) the bible is a summary of known history and esoteric teaching; Written by the Khemetic People... Not Semitic Which is a major confusion as the translation does not follow the khemetic grammar .... you will need to RECHECK YOU KNOWLEDGE Sir! The Hebrews are a Khemetic people ... (Sumerian)
Leroy Dyer ADAM, BOOKS OF A modern title for a loose collection of nonbiblical, pseudepigraphal, Jewish, and gnostic documents which expound upon the biblical narrative of Adam and Eve (Gen 1-4). A list of pseudepigraphal books offering fictional details from the lives of Adam and Eve, grouped together only by their common theme. The books grouped among the “Books of Adam” include: • Life of Adam and Eve (Vita Adae et Evae), the Latin version of the Greek Apocalypse of Moses • Testament of Adam • Apocalypse of Adam • Conflict of Adam and Eve • Books of the Daughters of Adam, another name for the book of Jubilees The likely gnostic Apocalypse of Adam is sometimes mentioned in connection with the other books about Adam but is not related thematically to the others. The Apocalypse of Adam and the Testament of Adam may rely on a common lost Jewish source, but this is disputed. (For further details on the pseudepigrapha, see this article: Pseudepigrapha, Old Testament. For information on the process of canonization, see these articles: Canon, Old Testament; Canon, New Testament. For further details on Gnosticism and why it was deemed heretical by the early church fathers, see this article: Gnosticism.)
its obvious now that your not a learned man; These opinions were created by minds of less understanding if not primitive ideas woven with ulterior-motive. To dismiss written accounts as false.... it would leave me to believe that only your own opinion matters; your own words would also have been deemed heretical as well. (in this time of Knowing) we even know what colour and race the original Hebrews were. As well as the language and true culture of the Hebrews. (Khemetic / Sumerian) the culture which your examining is foreign to you this is why your having trouble with it. In truth your actually another propagandist! just like the "early church fathers"...Romans ..... Which in itself is foreign to the original culture of Hebrews... just like today. applying Scientific ideas to Religious ideas goes against Gods Will.... In truth the bible is not gods words; Its a bibliography of the hebrew people and our origins... As you know Adam and Eve were created to Rule the Earth and its Inhabitants implying that there were humans created on the earth. As one should be aware Adam and Eve Were recast into human form as they were cast out of "the garden of the Eden" .... as Adam was created in the image of God and not MAN! .... Quite clearly stated. your esoteric analysis while is intriguing is Culturally-biased , of this you may be totally innocently unaware.... this is the problem with analysis; we anyalize from own own cultural perspective. Even Linguistically!
This man is so wrong, he is distorting both the Hebrew, and the English languages. Adam doesn't mean humanity in Hebrew it means; Man. Human means; from Man i.e. the descendants of man. He then goes on to distort the meaning of "them" trying to claim that them can only mean "many individuals" but in the context of Genesis 1 it is referring to 2 individuals. male and female. Note the singular within the text, not plural which would have been males and females. He also couldn't utter the name of Moses, so chooses to say "the Israelites" , so typical of evolutionary thought since Darwin's time, discredit Moses at all costs and now people deny he even existed. This heathen is launching an all out attack up Creation, Moses and therefore also Jesus himself who never denied Moses or the scriptures, the evil scourge of atheism is woven into even those who claim to be Christians, given that apologetics began in the new Babylon (USA), it doesn't surprise me at all that a nation of tv junkies, drug addicts and New Agers would prefer the warm fuzzy new religious ideals so as to be harmonious with their Satan worshiping atheist brothers.
You know, there was once a man whom religious rulers of his day called a devil-worshipper - claiming that he had a demon - and his name was Jesus. The doctor here speaks clear-headed truth, something that Jesus was known for; which, if you're wondering, implies that he's Christ-like. Let's say that this man is as who you say he is (which is highly unlikely), have you ever read John 8, where religious rulers are ready to stone to death an adulterous woman? Who there had the right to throw a stone, and who there threw one?
Robert Armentrout " Are you making accusations from some rational background or simply out of a doctrinal belief? I'm guessing it's the later." Of coarse that's what you want to believe because it's obvious you want to serve Satan's system of evolution, you don't want to believe in a literal Adam as is written, no you want an ape for a grand pappy.
Robert Armentrout --- You asked for a biblical text that discusses modern cosmology. I'll give it a try. Job 38:31..."Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion's belt?" NIV. God was asking Job if he could hold together the stars that make up the Pleiades. We know today that the Pleiades is a small star cluster whose stars are bound together by gravity. The ancients did not know that. God then asked Job if he could "loosen Orion's belt." Modern astronomers understand that the 3 stars in Orion's belt are all travelling further apart from each other, as opposed to getting closer together. The lesson for Job was that only God could loosen those stars (cause them to be traveling further apart). The prophet who penned the book of Job did not understand the full meaning of that text; however, he only wrote what he was inspired to write. Texts like this one, plus the many prophecies found in Scripture that have been fulfilled with stunning accuracy, lead some to conclude that the Bible is indeed the inspired word of God.
Show me a biblical text that discusses modern cosmology or genetics. In Genesis 2:21-24 it states: “And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” This is called CLONING Genesis 5:2 Male and female created He them, and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created. Eve was A Adam CLONE This is modern genetics.
Ezekiel 28 A prophecy to the king of Tyre. This is a parable for Satan. I'm gonna paraphrase these next few so you see only the key words, someone with insight please see this: 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God. 16 So I drove you in disgrace and I expelled you 17 So I threw you to the earth; So to make it even plainer: You were in Eden, until I threw you to the Earth. Genesis 2:9 In the middle of the garden were the tree of life. But JESUS SAID: REVELATION 2:7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says, TO HIM WHO OVERCOMES, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the PARADISE of God. The tree of life is IN the PARADISE of GOD, HIS HOLY MOUNTAIN, MT. ZION. PARADISE in greek: ◄ 3857. paradeisos ► Strong's Concordance: paradeisos: a park, a garden, a paradise Original Word: παράδεισος, ου, ὁ Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” In Context Compare Revelation 2:7:I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God. JESUS said where the tree IS. Period. It's there in Genesis, it there in Revelation, ask yourself, WHERE IS IT NOW??
Steve Taylor It is true. The paradise exists. Adam and Eve and and the trees and the snake and the lion (not mentionned in gen. only in ezekiel and revelations. plural) are still there and you can walk around in it. Babel is just outside of the Garden. Ezekiel describes it correctly, once you undo the text from centuries of mistranslations. Paradise means orchard and it is where the snake and leopard live. The literal and figurative and transcendental meaning of the Hebrew meaning of orchard is the following. on the hill with a shape of a loaf of bread there is a box or enclosure. The box is made by geb and nut and in that box we find shu. shu is the god of sunlight and he separates geb (man. earth) and nut (sky.night.woman) in the orchard. The light of geb shu nut. the light of gebshu or jezus from nut ( nazareth) shines on the universe This universe is that orchard. In my research the place exists on Earth.
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Fantastic Question about "when you eat it, you will surely die"
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Other people before Adam and Eve (Cain wife's, Cain's City etc)
appreciate this!
Great presentation. Valuable thesis. Note to self: "Don't read the comments; Don't read the comments..."
having read your comment, I AGREE! ha ha, brillaint comment! (yes, many homespun need-a-night-out-frustration comments!)
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Wow this is great this is what I'm looking for I'm going to listen and read him everyday it really takes it through step by step in the depths
The people we meet are usually archetypes of Biblical personages. Then we realize what role to take, how to be acting in Christ, how to respond to that situation.
starts at 6:35.
Finally! It's what I have been looking for.
Mark Hazen become a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, attend the temple and get the rest of the story.
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The tree called The Tree of Life represents the love of God, the kind of love God possesses which is accessed through the atonement of Jesus Christ. After Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil they could no longer partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life because they had sinned and needed to repent. The sword that protected the way of the Tree of Life was a representation of God’s Justice. Once Adam and Eve (us) sin we need to repent and accept Christ then we are allowed to partake of God’s love (the Tree of Life). Genesis is largely a temple text designed to teach us the gospel and how to return to God.
This has largely become my view as well.
SO far I have NOT heard what the Tree of Knowledge was.
Orthodox rabbis explained it very precisely.
Can you give a link to Rabbinic teaching please on the Tree of K G&E !?
@@springNoNWo try SULAM YAQOV rav Yehezqel --- his teaching are NOT for popcorn believers.
Thats what I find odd about a lot of these Western Scholars. Theyll say 'We have to view it in the lens of the culture.' But then they kinda ignore that culture's legacy in the way of understanding how Rabbis view some of these texts. And not all rabbis adhere to orthodoxy. Theres a handful that do. But they don't necessarily view Genesis the way Walton does either. Its very odd.
This is fabulous. It opens a whole range of study subjects, and for 50-plus years I've wanted to know where the line is between science and biblical accounts. The truth must be evidenced in both, surely. I've ordered the book and later, others.
God calls us to understand that the garden is the meeting place. Just like the scripture implies that the harvest is plentiful but the Labors are few. It’s not talking about fields, GOD is talking about people. The garden is the temple that GOD was in communication with His priests .
What Dr. Walton says about Genesis as an ancient document is paradoxically very complicated. I'm not sure that the writer of Genesis thought creation as complicated as him. I am happy to accept Genesis 1-3 as it is for this reason: a) the writer's understanding of the world was that simple and he/she tried to communicate to ancient people. Imagine how boring it was for laypeople at the time to think about creation in a complicated way, b) the stories are polemic against other culture's mythologies. The same principle applies to Noah's ark and other stories in Genesis 1-11. I believe that the writer thought that it was a flood on the whole earth (obviously it was not the whole earth). But then I don't think that the writer was lying or stupid. It was what it was, the writer was wrong based on our modern perspective but we cannot judge them as lying or stupid. This is the way I accept the limitation of human's telling of God's authority and love without losing my faith in Christianity.
Do more research, the flood was definitely a world wide flood. It’s plain as day in the Bible
@@rogercaldwell2440 have you done enough research yourself? For example, on the fact that the writers themselves didn't know that the earth was round and the whole earth area was much larger than Mesopotamia and around? They wrote something based on what they knew, not based on what we know today. The flood story itself was not a new story; Sumerians told the story much earlier before Jews did, framing the story in a different point of view. The story then was told among Akkadians and Babylonians. How do we know? Because Jewish community as a group of people was relatively new in comparison to Sumerians and Akkadians. These groups of people were also much more influential in terms of politics, culture, and economy than Jewish community was in the ancient world.
@@endrokristanto2583 There is absolutely nothing that indicates the Biblical writers did not know the earth is round. Their Cosmology was not based on Natural Process or Natural features as ours is. Since their model is Hyper-Physical then you have to ask yourself 'Why was it Hyper-Physical?' For the same reason they might ask 'Why our model is Naturalistic and not Hyper-Physical?' Because they viewed the world as colliding and interacting with Spiritual forces and other worlds such as 'The heavens' and such as 'The Underworld.' Their depiction of ancient Cosmology does not indicate they thought the earth was flat. It indicates they viewed Creation in a far more ordered and more complex way than even we do. They understood the hierarchy of Creation. They understood there was a very high order - the first heaven where God is. There was a secondary order which was comprised of 'the heavens' then there is our Realm - the Earth or that which is Physical. Then there is the order of the Underworld comprised of Gehenna, Sheol and Tartarus. Their Cosmology reflected THIS not that they viewed the earth as a flat disk.
@@endrokristanto2583 Because Jewish community as a group of people was relatively new = *But not born in a vacuum. They inherited Mesopotamian views.*
@@endrokristanto2583 You don't know the timeline. The Sumerian and other "Legends" can and do all refer to the same event. The antideluvian world was not like this one.
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
That's not literal death buddy
This was excellent.
In John 9:6 Jesus spat on the ground (dust) and made clay to heal a blind man.
The tree of life refers to the paradise of God. It is not an antidote for sin. Rev 2:7. It’s also a soothing tongue, wisdom, hope, gentle words, good deeds, and the fruit of the righteous.
And that paradise my just be a spiritual condition.
I LOVE this!
As a Christian I find genesis difficult to take literally.
That's what made me an atheist
Not me. The idea is correct the interpretation of the details may be wrong.
i have zero problems taking Genesis literally. i don't know what's the alternative and proper way of taking Genesis otherwise? it can't be all "metaphors" otherwise there was no 1st man, no original sin, no fall of mankind, no need for redemption, no genealogy that leads to Jesus, no flood, no satan as a serpent who will be defeated by Jesus, no fallen angels/nephilim, no Abraham, no burning bush, no the great I AM, no Noah, no ark, nothing!
Bible has ABSOLUTELY metaphors, but if you opt to take everything as a metaphor, then it all comes to subjective interpretation without the absolute truth! and there you have cults, skepticism, and other side "effects" of one's subjective interpretation of too much metaphors.
Thank God we don't have to!
@@TheNikolinho you don't necessarily need one man for sin, as all men sinned. All mankind is fallen, therefore still needs salvation.
I was hoping for more information about Eden, Adam, and Creation before the fall.
Kent Dickerson make it up yourself, it’s all fairytale.
Creation.com 😎
Look up, The Urantia Book. Tons of info before Adam and Eve.
Bravo ! Dr. Walton. It makes sense to me why Jesus "Good news," put so much emphasis on the kingdom of God. Near east, middle east etc. the kings had Private Gardens for repose , these were forbidden entery unless it was with consent.Additionally, the king was often the Gardener. himself. I can only imagine and wonder what was God's vision for Adam Race in the Eden
Wondering how he knows what language people spoke or did not speak before we find written script?
By studying ancient near eastern archeology, documents found, and ancient cultures. The development of Hebrew can be tracked.
This was greatly appreciated. That is why Yahusha was chosen to take the First Adam Place as High Priest forever. Yahusha had to be fully human because he was the Second Adam, Son of Man! HalleluYah!
frankie oja No. Adam took the place of the Adam. Jesaiah, Joshua, Selah and Jesus came later. Don't play with the chronology. There is a time for everything. Every time had its man that connected the Earth with The Heavens.
I was just watching another video/interview with Walton titled, 'Old Test. theology for Christians'. As one of the go to guys for ancient near East studies, I couldn't have been more disappointed in his replacement theology - replacement covenant of Israel, disregard for God's land and the Jewish people. Amazing that someone can be so knowledgeable in one area and so profoundly blind in another.
Newsflash Christian's; You'd Did Not Replace Israel. You're guests in the Covenant. Romans 11. Don't be so Arrogant.
spot on!
The old replaced the new.
He’s not talking about replacement theology
You assumed that but that’s not what he is explaining. And Israel and Jewish people are not some special ethnic group. We are all in Christ period. It’s insane how the Christian world only cares about their own personal doctrinal views. Instead of what the scriptures ACTUALLY SAYS . If anything goes against a person’s personal doctrine it becomes an offense. No body cares about the context of scriptures all people care about in the Christian world is each mama personal doctrine
You're guests in the Covenant - *This is WRONG. There is neither Jew or Gentile in the New Covenant.*
James Barr described men like this. He despised them.
This is awesomeness
Adam & Eve probably spoke to each other telepathically. They both had higher powers.
Some believe that the Adam and Eve narrative is a literal story . So Eve coming out of Adams side via one of his ribs slightly conflicts with science.
Eve coming out of Adam's rib doesn't conflict with science because the rib is the only part of the human body that can regenerate if surgically removed and God the creature knows this and He is the best surgeon.
@@Duvall9042343 It conflicts with Genesis 1;27 Where God said He made man; Man male and female at the same time, Created he them male and female created he them .
Genesis 1;27.So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28.And God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:
We should be able to grow a woman out of a mans rib if what you are sayings true.The point of the story has nothing with the physical reality of how humans were created.Ah But how they think. and how they learned it.
Because in TORAH there are no chapters. These were added by Rome and keep everyone confused would reads.
On 6th day humankind was created. Nameless. On 7th was rest, and 8th was when YHVH Aleph-Tav continued to create, so HE allocated for HIMSELF a center of earth: Eden with a SEPARATE man that was to rule and be a priest, first Melech Tsadik= Righteous King of Earth, who later failed.
@@barbarza It was translated into Greek first.
@@Duvall9042343 That is a good one.
He definitely watched some Jordan b Peterson. Even mentioned Pinocchio
Do you think that when we die and are burried our physical beings dont "return to dust"
No. The Bible says we return to dust. The hope of the believer is resurrection. When you're dead, you're dead. No such thing as immortal souls.
@@richardmorgan3938 "today you will be with me in Paradise". Just saying.
@@vedinthorn Just saying what? Jesus wasn't in Paradise that day according to many Christians - he went to hell (apparently) to lose the souls from there. Aside from that you need to read the Bible holistically and from the point of view of the first century readers. You will never come up with the idea of immortal souls or going to heaven when you die if you do that. Jesus said "I say to you today, you will be with me in Paradise" and I have no problem with that.
@@richardmorgan3938 The soul is not immortal scripture makes that very clear. That being said upon death the spirit returns to God and the Soul is escorted to Hades to await a resurrection; This is also supported by scripture. Just thought you should know the difference, The soul that sins shall die; also supported by scripture.
@@lmhayes60 Yes, but "hades" is just the grave. And the spirit is impersonal. When you're dead, you're dead. You cease to exist.
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Then why did Adam name her Eve?
but the word Adam comes form Adamah which is the red soil of earth..... The point is that we need to read the Bible in the original language and the true meaning will come if you have the ability to set your mind in the same mind frame of the time that was written.... this guy is just speculating on a possible interpretation.... is just an interpretation and for that I think that a Hebrew Rabi has more chances to get to the bottom than any other....
Walter Pierluissi Etymology
The traditional etymology of his name comes from Josephus (Josephus, Antiquities 1, 1, 2), who describes Adam as “the red one,” relating his name to the Hebrew adjective אדם ('dm), meaning “red” or “ruddy.” Adam means “man” or “mankind/humankind” and is a wordplay on the Hebrew term אדמה ('dmh), meaning, “ground.” This wordplay demonstrates the intimate relationship between humankind and the dust of the earth (Gen 2:7) from which the first man was fashioned. “Adam” is used both as a name and a title in Scripture, referring to his identity as the first human and his status as the representative of humanity before God.
They missed Jesus.
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Amen! The more I learn.......the less I know.
i think so too. the Yale university Intro to the Old testament is also good. Christian scholars and preachers are good but jewish people for sure almost always know more if they have a passion for scripture or teach it at university level. as christians we don't really have to know the meaning of everything but it makes the bible a lot more understandable knowing the original context and meaning
Well, this is what happens when kids go to Seminary and don't ask questions and dont challenge ideas. Of course, if youre ignorant you cant do that. I was constantly challenging ideas because I knew enough to do so. Very quickly I got tired of hearing 'primary sources' that I knew were tainted or even forged. Youd be surprised how many primary sources are referenced in Seminaries that were actually forged. And information on what was forged and authentic is always being updated. Like Ignatius letters which only 2 are authentic of the 2 authentic letters both were subjected to the Expurgatory Index to make them align more with 12th century Catholic dogma. They dont talk about this stuff in Seminary... EVER.
Walter Veith is very informative 💯
'Death' also means 'separation from God' which is equal to the spiritual death or a fall or a step down, from a higher level of consciousness to a lower level of consciousness. Even though God did not separate from Adam and Chava as God accompanied them when they were being evicted from the Garden of Eden, in their perception or from their spiritual life, God appeared to become absent. They 'fell' from Spiritual Consciousness to a earthly or lower level of consciousness.
Very true. There are 3 deaths mentioned in Biblical texts. Physical death which is separation of the spirit/soul from the body. Spiritual death which is separation from God and 3. The 2nd death which is eternal separation from God forever following judgement.
So to summarize, the way to defend the faith (apologetics) is to twist scripture to make it say something to fit the current secular persons theory about the origin of life.
The wholesome tongue is a tree of life, and he that keeps it shall be filled with understanding.
Pro 15:4 [Sept]
Jesus (the Word of God Incarnate) is the fruit of the most wholesome tongue.
The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is vengeance. Vengeance belongs to God. When Adam and Eve ate of it, they took vengeance on God for the lie that Satan said God told them. They stole His fruit and, since they couldn't punish God any other way, hid from Him and His wholesome tongue.
At the same time, they realized how vulnerable they were to vengeance.
Would like to know what Dr. Walton thinks about some of people in the past who held to a Pre Adamic race, or race outside Eden, which seems to parallel his interpretation. There are racial implications that have been exploited in past centuries.
Hey @John Walton why don't you tell your audience what the true correct translation of Exodus 3:14 is?
Genesis chapter 2 is not a sequel it is recapitulative because the six days of creation are not 24 hour days they are a long but finite period of time.
I wish I had a dollar for every person I've talked to who absolutely finds Walton's views of Genesis way 'off the mark.' Many have complained his presuppositions are weak, dubious and highly debatable. He appears to be trying to add metaphysical philosophy to biblical theology and the mix is a disaster! His 'Lost' books are just that; lost in a mire of confusion and contradiction.
Ask yourself if you have already read the Bible, Why does the Bible talk very little about the first man and woman on the planet and what happen and what happen after they left the garden and their struggles, not just having a few children and about Cain killing Abel? Do you not think that they would be the most important 2 people in the Bible to talk about and yet very little is said. That is why each and everyone should read the Book of Adam and Eve. Please learn about them.
The Shocking Truth About Adam and Eve Relationship
Once you come out of the “Christianity” you will begine to understand scripture.
First, Adam and Eve was together when the beast of the field deceived Eve, Here's proof:
Genesis 3: 5
for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate.
If you notice the beast said: “and ye shall be as gods,” because more then one person was their.
Genesis 3: 6 and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate.
Mentally Eve was over Adam, I know this is hard to believe Here's proof:
Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception. In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
Now let’ define the word sorrow in Genesis 3:16 , in more modern terms.
My Father greatly multiply Eve "grief, regret, trouble, care, pain, anxiety,"
now she’s very emotional.
Now Eve desire was for my Father, Now my Father made her desire for Adam, now mentally Adam is over Eve.
If Eve was not Mentally over Adam, How else could she get Adam to eat the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden.
Now check this scripture out:
1 Timothy 2:14
And Adam was not deceived; but the woman, being deceived, was in the transgression.
Now check this scripture out:
Genesis 5:2
Male and female created He them, and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created.
I wonder if Eve never had child before how is God increasing the pain of birth?
CryptoGee Adam & Eve are one in the same. Eve came from Adams rib , but also in marriage two are joint & thus become one.
@@IsaacBG84 there were other people on earth so these two saw.
@@IsaacBG84 Eve was pregnant in the garden
NIV =
"Nearly Inspired Version"
It is. Very good talks to learn lots of things though how far these are true only thing how much we believe that s
Because nobody can say what is true and what is not just we have to believe. Thanks
(I am only 30minutes into the video)
Interestingly many Hassidic Jews if am not mistaken do not at all see it this way God taking Adams side and making two in the way described here.
I was fascinated to listen to a Rabbi say that BEFORE we read of Eve being a seperate bodily person as such, the ''Male and female He created them'', and LATER he takes this FEMALE part of ''Ha Adam'' (Literally THE ADAM who was both male and female! WOW!) and seperated them as it was not good for man to be alone... God was showing them something.
He, Ha Adam, could see and name all the animals and see them, but not see his own parrtner. So Godput him to sleep, and brough Eve OUT of him! WOW! A reasomning behind Rabbinic thinking here when they choose to see it as ''side'' is they recognise our duality, "tshuva" or "teshuva" versus yetzer hara (Godly/repentant nature vs sinful nature) two eyes, two sides, two legs etc, so may be on target here, and fits with some other Biblical patterns so we are told.
remember NONE of this Christian theology existed back then till even much later than Christ, so much of what is being said hear would bewilder many jewish people. And they see the Garden story as God knowing full well as an Ancient of Days or Eternal Being, telling fresh and innocent beings ''don't touch that plant!'', i mean come on (thinks Hassidic teacher i have been l;istening to) ... think about it, from their perspective, NOT our Christianized perspective, at least to sound it out) and they do not see a ''punishment'' in the way we do. The just see a maturing, and growing up, and CHOOSING to come down to this lower sphere to do a mission! And to grow till we get it right, or indeed, an't and Messiah comes and sorts us all out.
They do NOT see it as an apple, but usually, and not always a fig (he explains why, but kids might be reading) and may well have included sexuality, (which wasn't a sin for them, BUT did mean child bearing naturally and consequentially would be an effect, and working and tilling the earthly ground and caring for it and so on. In Eden (meaning Pleasure basically) they had nothing to learn, and everything was there for them. So was time to head out and go grow into a fully fledged bunch of beings. (But in God's time NOT our time)
And we need remember too that God will honour His promise and Faithfullness for His Name's Sake to the Jews when Christ reuturns for the next part of the mission. So i do get annoyed to see other Christ believers ripping into good Rabbis and telling THEM... what a cheek.
BUt yes, was fascinating to hear it from their point of view, and the forces at play and psychology was incredible! So dispite our differeing viewpoint, none-the-less was so MUCH to learn from them having passed thgese teachings down since they were stories which woulkd be told round fires and so on. And actually read as such once we know that, part poetry, part story, and part allegory to explain about God's nature as much as man's ''corruption''. And pointed out TWO sides to the 'serpent'' imagery in biblical stories. One is the wise''sublte'' serpent (It did NOT actually say ''subtle'' in context in Hebrew tradition, but Arum, whereas Ha Adam and Eve (a name i don't think she was given, at least ion the telling till afterwards? And Adam Loved her as she is the 'mother of life and to be honoured not degraded) were descibed as Armumim (plural) and sort of emans naked but most think it meansa little more than this. And they recognise there ARE peices missing as they do not and cannot make proper sense of them at all. And they should know as they've had a few millenia head start!
The Tree of Life, we may see as Christ, but that is US! And the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is the birth of the system we insist on keeping ourselves captives within depsite all our mighty religion! But God has been preparing us all the whole time. Jew and gentile alike since. So jews too say.
here are so many different ways they interpret their teaching to Christian ways. But not all are what the ignorant call''anti-Christ'', and we need sometiems take note to better understand ourselves maybe?
BUT very very fascinating (was by Rabbi Manis Friedman in this instance)
If you where God and you wanted to tell me that i was physically formed from the"ground" how would you say it? In plain English?
Mud pie.
Nyah ah ah! Woop!
Spiritual and physical death introduced by Adam and Eve were covered and paid for by Christ. The Fall of Adam was a part of God’s plan; in other words God knew Adam and Eve would partake of the forbidden fruit and so provided a Savior. Because of the Fall of Adam, mankind would be born into a physical world without remembrance of our pre-earth life. Here on this earth we are tested to see if we will choose Him or not. We choose Him by believing Jesus is the Christ, repenting of our sins, being baptized and enduring to the end of our lives. “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins”. Acts 2:38. “... but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Mark 13:13 Because of the Fall we all will die but because of Christ we will all be resurrected. Following the resurrection we will stand before God to be judged.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 5:25-29
I’m thankful for my Savior, Jesus Christ.
What about the human "soul" that so many believe leaves at death and goes off to heaven or some other place? Where does it say in the creation account that the human God created has this immaterial, ethereal, diaphanous, "aspect" that embodies or contains our conscious mind? According to Ps 146:4 (KJV) His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Watch the video about what the word for soul really means. The video is by the Bible project.
@@KvDenko I watched the entire talk and I don't think I heard the word "soul" mentioned once.
@@fromanabe8639 yes, the video I'm referring to is by the channel "the Bible project". You gotta look it up
@@KvDenko OK, I watched Intro to spiritual beings and Elohim. There are quite a few videos in the Bible Project channel.
Did you have one video in mind?
@@fromanabe8639 the video called "soul/nephesh"
satan is also archetypal representative.
Another, TH-cam video, John Walsh says his views of Genesis are not really “traditional“ evangelical views. In fact, he creates his own reality by twisting scripture in order to fit an evolutionarily hypothesis.
Hebrew is the language of creation. Elohim created all things through the Alef-Tav, the letters of the Alef-Beit.
And God formed the man of dust of the earth, and breathed upon his face the breath of life, and the man became a living soul.
John 9:6
When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes,
Job 10:9 [Sept]
Remember that thou hast made me as clay, and thou dost turn me again to earth.
.........wow........side, NOT RIB.....so Y'shua was wounded on the side--- that flow was for cleansing of HIS Bride= Y'israel
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I love and appreciate Dr. Walton. He takes you to the biblical text and seeks to understand it in the historical context in which it was written. Along with Gordon Fee and Doug Stuart, (How to Read the Bible for All It's Worth), he believes that the Word of God was written *to them* (the original audience) *but is for us*. Having said that, I have to demur over his view of a "historical Adam and Eve." I think *he is still thinking too literally when it comes to their historicity*. The text - in historical creation myth context -- simply doesn't support that view. Having come so far in, understanding the text, he abandons the historical and literary context and bows the knee before an overly literalistic reading of Genesis 2.
Did he just say the NIV is a good interpretation lol he had me up until he said that one the NIV changes things, missing books, and the english used is a more modren version of english which alot of words have change their meaning and can be used in different sentences and have its meaning change based upon how its use in the sentence
All translations have imperfections. ALL.
God Bless, great job!
Cultic YEC is wrong
I can't hardly stand to hear some of these people say. ADOM, SOUNDS LIKE HE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH WELL ENOUGH? WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?
It's how to pronounce it in Hebrew
God created everything in reverse from the end to the beginning then he started the clock regards Graham Flowers
You know it's mes when they keep quoting the septuagent
marb.u.b Ⓜ True. It is very evident that the source documents for the septuagint where not written in Greek due to all the word plays in Hebrew, Aramaic and other semetic and indian words and concepts.
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Yeah like the authors of the new Testament. Wish they hadn't written all that mess. Right?
Too many assumptions both way. The man's exposition shows that it is very difficult to stick to the literal words of the text. The words have a multiplicity of meaning. He thinks he has to select a single meaning. Not true, just like in all ancient languages both the literal, archetypal and transcendental meaning are there and intended. They all are intended. This is even more true with regards to documents being the end point of a long oral tradition by an initially small group of people. He lacks fantasy.
ONESTAGETOSPACE sir, are you an Old Testament Scholar who have invested your life Studying the hebrew text and Ancient Near East background? please. Don't force your beliefs into the text. God's word is so much richer and powerful than what you think. God bless you.
I am.
As the introducer said: two spiritual virtues: intellectual humility and open mindedness. I too can very much recommend it.
The literal words of the text aren’t English, it’s Hebrew; and the problem is that the Hebrew doesn’t mean what people generally think it means. Your viewpoint is very ethnocentric.
@@BeefyPreacher Indeed. If one looks at the first word of the Bible "beresheit", the part in the Bible that was written during the polytheistic period, you know, the entire period that only ended with the father of Abraham; then we immediately see reference to other gods in that first word, when one properly splits up the word in its constituent parts. One of them refers to Ash, short for Asherah/fire and it calls Asherah the one who creates time. The word, in one of several possible literal readings with the immediately following letters says: "Wild Fire, Asherah, time creates" and then continues with talking about the God El who also creates. Man and woman, their son 'yam' or Elyam is also mentioned in the first words. This is a well-known triad of local gods, right their in the first verse.
One word is an entire sentence, or more, when properly analyzed and read.
Of course, a dogmatic view would call that blasphemy; but to lovers of language, versed in the context of the history of the narration and its brothers, or accepting the O.T. for what it is, the rehashing of the narration of older cultures for self-serving purposes, and the history of the evolution from word-pictures to words, this is perfectly normal.
if Adam and Eve were immortal, how could they die if they ate of the tree of good and evil? bodies and souls die Ezekiel 18:20 we sin because in us are the lust of the eye the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. we did not ask to be born with those traits, it was all by design Romans 8:20 so that at the end GOD could have mercy on all HIS children.. is important when reading the bible we pay attention to every word. it works.
He explains they were mortal
Adam and Eve are living in chile ⭐
Just listen to Hugh Ross
I'd like to get what this guy smokes...lol..he's trying to figure out the bible with his clustered human intelligence. ..it's the Holy Spirit that reveals the truth of the bible...it's not a carnal book..and you won't understand spiritual things with carnal intellect. .
The 'Garden of Eden' was in Botswana. See the book Adam and Eve and the Big Bang. It has absolutely rock solid evidence.
My goodness how is this presentation worthwhile other than to make the presenter seem knowledgeable and important. Certainly does nothing for the Kingdom in my opinion.
Sorry professor I am not buying what you are selling...well I am really not sorry.
Are you buying Young Earth Creationism invented by the Seventh Day Adventist church?
@@The-DO The only thing I am buying, as you put it, from the SDA is God's Sabbath is Saturday not Sunday.
@@lmhayes60 fair-enough. If you want to hear more about genesis from conservative Christian you should try:
- Reasons to Believe
- Truth Unites
- John Lennox
- Johnathan McLatchie
Have a good one. God Bless!
@@The-DO conservative means a trump supporter and I despise trump. Therefore there is a credibility issue
@@lmhayes60 it's OK. But I'm not talking about political conservatism. That drive trucks and shoot rifles in the air :)))
I'm talking about people like John Lennox (7 days that divide the world) - there is a lesson on TH-cam and I think you'll like it
I believe the second creation that you Christians say is when Eve is created. I believe that the Hebrew list a different Christian god. The word used for Eve is not Eve. This god also tells them to leave their parents. Big 10 says to honor your mother and father. Angels brought the law. The OT god is not Jesus dad.
2 type of eden tree is actually a metaphor,..why make a theology out of it?... 🤔..
Or our theology only the way we make sense (in our time) to the (ancient) narrative such genesis....
He is teaching disbelief in the Bible. He said "Adam didn't call Eve Eve". God's word says "Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living"(Genesis 3.20). Adam gave to his wife a meaningful title, which God may well have given in its original form when He caused Genesis to be written. For him to be dismissive of the inspired Bible statement is shameful. To then compound his error with flippancy about calling each other "honey and sweetie", is indicative of his lack of reverence for God's word.
Their "names" are literally the words "humanity" and "life". They are Hebrew words, but Hebrew didn't exist until Moses time, therefore, the actual people could not use those exact words.
It’s called anachronism and is a rhetorical technique, particularly apropos when articulating an archetype.
Throwing Genesis 1 and 2 into confusion by bad interpretation.
Adam was certainty not 1st man. Scripture means what it says & says what it means. So when Jesus said from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female’.. Gen1:1 Mk10:6 Matt19:4 Mk13:19 Heb1:10
This act which Jesus referred was:
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male & female created he them & God blessed them’, & God said to them, “Be fruitful, & multiply, & Replenish the EARTH, & subdue it: & have dominion over the fish of the sea, & over the fowl of the air, & over every living thing that moves upon the EARTH & God said, Behold, I have given you
EVERY. ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive )
herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, &
EVERY tree, ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive)
In the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.” Gen1:27-29
But when God made Adam & placed him in GARDEN God was very specific ;
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. & the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. & out of the ground
the Lord God formed every beast of the field, & every fowl of the air; & brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: & whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Gen2:16-19
Adam was specifically told v2:17 not eat of Tree knowledge of good & evil.
Gen1 & Gen2 are separate accounts. Time betwixt these 2events remains unspecified.. A GREAT error comes when one equates Gen1&Gen2 for they are very different events
Jesus was clear, For He did not say from time of Garden He made Adam & Eve. But rather Jesus said:
from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the "beginning" made them male & female
Not Adam & Eve, not from dust, not from the time of garden. Jesus meant what was said & said what he meant, Adam, Eve,& garden were not in the creation... scripture means what is said and says what it means
Man in Gen1 was made From nothing Ex-Nehlio... Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Yet Adam in Gen2 was formed from dust of ground & Eve was formed from Adam's rib... thus Adam & Eve of Gen2 are not made Ex-nehlio, from nothing, as were the man & woman in the beginning. Man & Woman of Gen1 were given dominion over all earth that was watered by a mist neither did Gen1 have dietary restriction as given Adam & Eve in a garden watered by 4 rivers. Gen1 & Gen2 are completely different events, scripture does not err.
Jesus drew a line into the sands of time at Luke 16:16 The law & the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, & every man presseth into it.
There were 4kYrs of sin prior to John. "Behold the Lamb slain from foundation of this world." When was this present sinful world founded? but in the day of ADAM'S sin. For then Adam&Eve were clothed in skin of slain lamb & a redeemer promised. there remain 3k years from Jesus death.. John 2:19 Jesus answered & said unto them, Destroy this temple, & in three days I will raise it up. The final event is specified. Rev21:22-23 & I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty & the Lamb are the temple of it. & the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, & the Lamb is the light thereof.
Time between Gen1&Gen2 is Unspecified but finite. To equate Gen1&Gen2 as same events leads to great confusion There are many many facts to prove earth age is in excess of 6000Y BP, wiki article earth age completly refutes young earth psudoscience... and wiki cites just the most blatant proofs, there are others.
n clay n soil from diferent regions so they wer many diferdnt colours
Oh how we need the full Godhead today made available in grist.
This is preposterous. “Male and female He created THEM”, is a reference to the fact that God made Adam - a man and Eve, a woman. Hence, “THEM”. It is not a reference to God having created MORE people than Adam and Eve. Jesus speaks to the fact of what marriage was “AT THE BEGINNING”, by referring to Adam and Eve. In the fall, how many people fell? “For as by ONE MAN sin entered the world and death by sin”, said Paul. When God made “Eve”, did he cause all males on the planet to fall asleep? Did He take a rib out of all males and bring forth multiple “Eve”? OR, did He cause the singular person Adam to fall asleep and took Eve from him? What about the New Testament doctrine that Adam - the FIRST person/man is the federal head of all humanity? “For as in Adam, ALL DIE…”. This is preposterous attempt of biblical theology, trying to make scripture fit science. And NO, Paul does NOT almost always refer to Adam and Eve as archetypes. And NO, we are not all literally formed from dust as Adam was. Adam was not conceived as an embryo in the womb of a woman and BORN. We are. This guy has no clue about what he is talking about. Just because the Hebrew word “formed” can ALSO be used in non-material ways, does not mean it is not material in the creation account of God “forming the dust”. Humanity is body, soul AND spirit, so obviously God formed the material, spiritual and metaphysical components of humans WHEN He formed the first man, Adam and the first woman, Eve.
Species is a very man made thing. Kind is more accurate word.
Sorry, Mr. PHD Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, wich was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. And... For as by ONE MAN'S disobedience MANY were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE MANY shall be made righteous . Please, observe 1 Co 4:6 So that you may learn... not to go beyond what is written so that you don't become arrogant.
the koran says adam was made from clay..... i am sure the speaker unknowingly mentioned the right material which fits adam creation without knowing he was quoting from the koran. the koran seems to be realistic and rational. the bible says formed dust and it doesn't make sense however the koran mentions not dust but clay
The chosen slave The Koran says that when something is not clear you should read the Bible. The man is not quoting from the Koran. The genesis story is much more detailed in the Bible than it is in the Koran and the Sumerian genesis story is much older and more detailed than the Bible. A good place to start reading the Bible is Biblehub. You will have the book in its original language with translations in English.
The chosen slave ...hehe so you belive scientifically that we are moulded from clay???!!😂😂
If you want to find a sequel to Adam and Eve in Genesis, you may have to go to Revelations. God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. This is the same living soul that man will return to at the end of time. Adam was not just a living mortal. He became a mortal after he sinned. In the garden, he lived as a living soul. He wasn't naked because what he saw was a divine body similar to the angels. He could see God and all of the spiritual world around him. His normal eyes were closed and he saw through his divine eye. He did not walk as a human would but floated above the ground. He ate from the tree of life. This tree gave him immortality. If you read the books 1 and 2 of Adam and Eve, it would tell you that they had to learn to live as a mortal man. He didn't know the first thing of surviving in the wild. Leaving the garden of Eden changed them forever. In Revelations, God tells them that they and their ancestors will return to paradise along with the tree of life. They will be like Adam and Eve was living in the garden before they sinned. Adam and Eve is a precursor to what we will be like at the end of life.
It's RevelatioN, not "s".
Adam & Eve's spirit was in a physical body of flesh and bones, just like God's. They partook of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. If Adam had partaken of the Tree of Life, he would have lived forever, but alone. But, he didn't, he realized that they needed to follow the other commandment, which is "Multiply and Replenish the Earth. That is why we are all here. To follow the GREATER COMMANDMENT. Partaking of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil gave them the opportunity to CHOOSE Right from Wrong (FREE AGENCY).
What in the world is this guy RAMBLING about? 20 years of Bible study was wasted.
The Tree of Life was not a remedy. Adam would have lived forever, by himself if he had partaken of the Tree of Life.
Adam made a choice to follow the greater commandment, which was to "Multiply and Replenish the Earth."
If they had not partaken of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, then we would not be here.
Biologos called, they want a distorted interpretation of Genesis 1,2&3. Dr. Walton answered the call. This man's teachings fit all too perfectly into the theistic evolution narrative.
He's on Biologos lol
Thank you. Exactly my thoughts. He used to be a 6-day creationist. Then his wife who is chemist or biochemist convinced him evolution was true. Then he re-interpreted scripture to make the conflict go away. Seems like a better approach would be to understand that evolution isn’t theory actually falling apart because it doesn’t work and re-interpret the Science in light of the Bible. See almost anything by Behe, Stephen Meyer, and “Theistic Evolution” by Grudem et al
If God Walked in the Cool of the Day with Adam and Adam Named all the Animals, what did he do just grunt to Yeshua........this Guy's a Fools Erand
But no one knows the original language, thats the problem...
You don't have to go back to Hebrew to understand the bible. If you are an english speaker, King James and a dictionary that gives the archaic meanings of words will suffice. Did God intend for only those who speak Hebrew to know the bible? No, He said, "Go into all the world." The God that spoke through man and gave them the bible, can speak through men today and guide their translations.
It was written in Hebrew to Hebrews.
יצר אלוהים
Adam in Hebrew is A is Hashem Dm means blood ADM.
Good... would've been better without the Lil jokes in between.
Great info skip the jokes plz
If you read the bible you would know the questions you are asking , Look for the Books of ADAM AND EVE ..... It explains your questions......AND gives ANSWERS.... The bible does not have all the answers about Adam and eve as the story was taken from KNOWN STORIES.... (the book of Adam and Eve) the bible is a summary of known history and esoteric teaching; Written by the Khemetic People... Not Semitic Which is a major confusion as the translation does not follow the khemetic grammar .... you will need to RECHECK YOU KNOWLEDGE Sir! The Hebrews are a Khemetic people ... (Sumerian)
Leroy Dyer ADAM, BOOKS OF A modern title for a loose collection of nonbiblical, pseudepigraphal, Jewish, and gnostic documents which expound upon the biblical narrative of Adam and Eve (Gen 1-4). A list of pseudepigraphal books offering fictional details from the lives of Adam and Eve, grouped together only by their common theme. The books grouped among the “Books of Adam” include:
• Life of Adam and Eve (Vita Adae et Evae), the Latin version of the Greek Apocalypse of Moses
• Testament of Adam
• Apocalypse of Adam
• Conflict of Adam and Eve
• Books of the Daughters of Adam, another name for the book of Jubilees
The likely gnostic Apocalypse of Adam is sometimes mentioned in connection with the other books about Adam but is not related thematically to the others. The Apocalypse of Adam and the Testament of Adam may rely on a common lost Jewish source, but this is disputed.
(For further details on the pseudepigrapha, see this article: Pseudepigrapha, Old Testament. For information on the process of canonization, see these articles: Canon, Old Testament; Canon, New Testament. For further details on Gnosticism and why it was deemed heretical by the early church fathers, see this article: Gnosticism.)
its obvious now that your not a learned man; These opinions were created by minds of less understanding if not primitive ideas woven with ulterior-motive. To dismiss written accounts as false.... it would leave me to believe that only your own opinion matters; your own words would also have been deemed heretical as well. (in this time of Knowing) we even know what colour and race the original Hebrews were. As well as the language and true culture of the Hebrews. (Khemetic / Sumerian) the culture which your examining is foreign to you this is why your having trouble with it. In truth your actually another propagandist! just like the "early church fathers"...Romans ..... Which in itself is foreign to the original culture of Hebrews... just like today. applying Scientific ideas to Religious ideas goes against Gods Will.... In truth the bible is not gods words; Its a bibliography of the hebrew people and our origins... As you know Adam and Eve were created to Rule the Earth and its Inhabitants implying that there were humans created on the earth. As one should be aware Adam and Eve Were recast into human form as they were cast out of "the garden of the Eden" .... as Adam was created in the image of God and not MAN! .... Quite clearly stated. your esoteric analysis while is intriguing is Culturally-biased , of this you may be totally innocently unaware.... this is the problem with analysis; we anyalize from own own cultural perspective. Even Linguistically!
Frodo!
I’m already turned off he was stated to call her life and Adam means man you are a lost Adam
too much for me.....
They were subject to the ways of Judaism which brought forth death.
Cole Stockdale ....what? That is a puzzling comment.....
Absolute rambling gibberish.
Somehow he is not a good speaker. Better write only.
This man is so wrong, he is distorting both the Hebrew, and the English languages. Adam doesn't mean humanity in Hebrew it means; Man. Human means; from Man i.e. the descendants of man. He then goes on to distort the meaning of "them" trying to claim that them can only mean "many individuals" but in the context of Genesis 1 it is referring to 2 individuals. male and female. Note the singular within the text, not plural which would have been males and females. He also couldn't utter the name of Moses, so chooses to say "the Israelites" , so typical of evolutionary thought since Darwin's time, discredit Moses at all costs and now people deny he even existed.
This heathen is launching an all out attack up Creation, Moses and therefore also Jesus himself who never denied Moses or the scriptures, the evil scourge of atheism is woven into even those who claim to be Christians, given that apologetics began in the new Babylon (USA), it doesn't surprise me at all that a nation of tv junkies, drug addicts and New Agers would prefer the warm fuzzy new religious ideals so as to be harmonious with their Satan worshiping atheist brothers.
You know, there was once a man whom religious rulers of his day called a devil-worshipper - claiming that he had a demon - and his name was Jesus. The doctor here speaks clear-headed truth, something that Jesus was known for; which, if you're wondering, implies that he's Christ-like. Let's say that this man is as who you say he is (which is highly unlikely), have you ever read John 8, where religious rulers are ready to stone to death an adulterous woman? Who there had the right to throw a stone, and who there threw one?
Eric Swarbrick
Show me in any Biblical text where Jesus claimed that He evolved man from apes. Like I said Biblical not heretical.
Robert Armentrout " Are you making accusations from some rational background or simply out of a doctrinal belief? I'm guessing it's the later."
Of coarse that's what you want to believe because it's obvious you want to serve Satan's system of evolution, you don't want to believe in a literal Adam as is written, no you want an ape for a grand pappy.
Robert Armentrout --- You asked for a biblical text that discusses modern cosmology. I'll give it a try. Job 38:31..."Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion's belt?" NIV. God was asking Job if he could hold together the stars that make up the Pleiades. We know today that the Pleiades is a small star cluster whose stars are bound together by gravity. The ancients did not know that. God then asked Job if he could "loosen Orion's belt." Modern astronomers understand that the 3 stars in Orion's belt are all travelling further apart from each other, as opposed to getting closer together. The lesson for Job was that only God could loosen those stars (cause them to be traveling further apart). The prophet who penned the book of Job did not understand the full meaning of that text; however, he only wrote what he was inspired to write. Texts like this one, plus the many prophecies found in Scripture that have been fulfilled with stunning accuracy, lead some to conclude that the Bible is indeed the inspired word of God.
Show me a biblical text that discusses modern cosmology or genetics.
In Genesis 2:21-24 it states: “And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” This is called CLONING
Genesis 5:2
Male and female created He them, and blessed them and called their name Adam in the day when they were created. Eve was A Adam CLONE
This is modern genetics.
Ezekiel 28 A prophecy to the king of Tyre. This is a parable for Satan. I'm gonna paraphrase these next few so you see only the key words, someone with insight please see this:
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God.
16 So I drove you in disgrace and I expelled you
17 So I threw you to the earth;
So to make it even plainer:
You were in Eden, until I threw you to the Earth.
Genesis 2:9 In the middle of the garden were the tree of life.
But JESUS SAID:
REVELATION 2:7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says, TO HIM WHO OVERCOMES, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the PARADISE of God.
The tree of life is IN the PARADISE of GOD, HIS HOLY MOUNTAIN, MT. ZION.
PARADISE in greek:
◄ 3857. paradeisos ► Strong's Concordance:
paradeisos: a park, a garden, a paradise
Original Word: παράδεισος, ου, ὁ
Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
In Context Compare
Revelation 2:7:I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
JESUS said where the tree IS. Period.
It's there in Genesis, it there in Revelation, ask yourself, WHERE IS IT NOW??
Steve Taylor It is true. The paradise exists. Adam and Eve and and the trees and the snake and the lion (not mentionned in gen. only in ezekiel and revelations. plural) are still there and you can walk around in it. Babel is just outside of the Garden. Ezekiel describes it correctly, once you undo the text from centuries of mistranslations. Paradise means orchard and it is where the snake and leopard live. The literal and figurative and transcendental meaning of the Hebrew meaning of orchard is the following. on the hill with a shape of a loaf of bread there is a box or enclosure. The box is made by geb and nut and in that box we find shu. shu is the god of sunlight and he separates geb (man. earth) and nut (sky.night.woman) in the orchard. The light of geb shu nut. the light of gebshu or jezus from nut ( nazareth) shines on the universe This universe is that orchard. In my research the place exists on Earth.
Utter nonsense.
It isnt utter non-sense. There are things here and there which are useful.
this guy very borring.
Eric Maza This guyis full of empty speehes, and friutless explantions.
No he's quite interesting. It depends if those listening love to read the Scriptures or not.
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