BEAUTIFUL DIY BATTERY KIT FOR THE SEGA NOMAD | FROM LASER BEAR INDUSTRIES!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- THE SEGA NOMAD HAS A BATTERY PROBLEM. LASER BEAR INDUSTRIES FIXED IT!
In today’s episode of Retro Renew, I take a look at Laser Bear Industries’ very cool Lithium Ion Battery Pack for the Sega Nomad handheld console! This is a fantastic option for those who have a Nomad but don’t have a battery as many of the originals no longer hold a charge, or in the case of the 6AA battery pack, are very expensive. Additionally the modern Lithium Ion Pack from Laser Bear boasts 2 18650 cells that provide fantastic battery life and a modern battery management system. Additionally, I ran a battery test to see how much gameplay this Pack can provide on a single charge, and I think you will not be disappointed. So let’s see if this is a battery mod worth of your beloved Sega Nomad!
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► 2:52 Parts Overview
► 4:15 How to Assemble Sega Nomad Battery
► 8:34 Features Overview
► 9:22 Battery Test
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As a direct replacement, this is awesome. However, from a modder’s standpoint, I would love to see a USB C variant available, so that it can be charged on the same cable as my gameboy advance sp and iPod video lol. We are nearing completion on the USB C takeover!
I would love to see that as well 😁👍
That and flip the battery door so it has to slide up instead of down. That will take away the need for a lock and prevent it from sliding down during gameplay.
@@Binary_Omlet I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. I'm not sure why they decided to put it in upside down, I don't see any clearance issues in the design that would require that. I doubt that people are going to be opening and closing it frequently enough for it to be an issue, but still.
@@Binary_Omlet or a screw on battery cover would be the best IMO, as I don’t think I would ever be swapping around those types of cells, as carrying those unprotected can potentially be dangerous as seen with older vape devices that used those. But I can certainly agree that something needs done about the battery door
@@Binary_Omlet The locking tab has nothing to do with the direction of the battery door. The lock is to prevent the entire battery pack from falling off the back of the Nomad. It's designed exactly the same way as an original Sega Nomad battery pack. If you didn't know that, then you've never owned a Sega Nomad and you're in no position to talk.
As for the door itself, what's the issue? You install the batteries, slide the door close and you're done. It does not slides down on its own nor do you need to open it up again. There's nothing wrong with the battery door. You people are just creating problems that don't really exist.
I ordered laser bear’s battery pack when he first announced it. I’m very happy with it. Originally I planned on modding the original 6AAA battery pack, but this let me preserve it.
Nice! It's a fantastic kit. Really liking it so far!
My parents bought me the Nomad brand new in 1996 for my birthday. I used to use a GameGear rechargeable battery pack with mine by holding the pack backwards and keeping the plug in the top. I never had the Nomad rechargeable pack.
This should go along with a modern screen replacement (that greatly reduces the power requirement of the system to begin with). The original Nomad screen is headache inducing and pretty much impossible to look at today. Back when it was made it was pretty much the best available, but nowadays it is just bad.
I agree that a charge LED would have been a nice addition. Something else that's hugely missed I think is a USB-C charge option. Not everyone has an original adapter so having a modern way to charge via USB-C would have been a nice option. Lastly, either a plastic clip to hold the door, or invert the print for the door to have it slide up instead of down would have helped. Overall definitely a nice thing to see older consoles like this getting some attention and preservation. Hopefully things like this continue with more custom parts in the future.
I got my Unmodded Sega Nomad back in 2017 with the battery pack and thank god the battery pack came with it. I would say when I used Duracell batteries with it when I got it it lasted around a little under 4 hours. I mainly use Eneloops with my nomad now and they last about 4 hours before the batteries have to be charged but if you have another pair of Eneloops you can just swap them for more play time and charge the other batteries. I would only recommend using Eneloops with the Nomad if you already have the battery pack. If not the Laser Bear option is probably better to spend your money on and is probably a better solution overall for the Nomad but I do still recommend Eneloops if you have other devices that take AAs. I should try getting one of these myself to see how long my Nomad would last since mine is unmodified. The reason you got around 7 hours and 30 minutes could be because of the screen replacement since composite screen replacments tend to give you better battery life. I'm not sure how the battery life is affected by rgb screen mods like the lcddrive or rgbdrive which the lcddrive would probably be the mod I would get done on my nomad since I like the sharp image they give off.
Still blows my mind that Sega made a portable Genesis 😆 good stuff as always man. The install looks very beginner-friendly!
I've had good experiences getting 18650s from Illumn. Each pair of batteries comes in a plastic case which is great for storage.
An indicator light can be added. I purchased the same management board that's in this mod. I put that management board in my old rechargeable Nomad battery pack. I used the LED and resistor on the original charging board. You run negative from B- on the management board to the resistor (I forget the value). Then, add resistor to negative on LED. Then use the incoming 10v to positive on the LED. The circuit for the light will complete everytime the battery is charging, then cut off when it's not.
Emulating Sega games on any number of pocket size devices: 😞
Playing a Gunstar Hero cart on a Sega Nomad in public: 😍
This is really neat. I fortunately have the original battery pack in my Nomad that I've had since I was a kid. The connection points in the original are also spring-loaded, but the shape of them isn't quite the same as this new battery pack mod. Even though I have the original, I think I might get this because the 7 hours you get with this versus the variable 2-4 hours I get with Eneloop AAs is way better. Another great video, dude!
Thanks Justin! And thank you for letting me know how the original battery contacts operate. I agree, this could be a good complement to your original 6AA battery pack. Cheers buddy ☺️👍
my mother found my Sega nomad a couple days ago in the house I grew up. it doesn't have the battery pack so this is perfect
Nice Tito! It might’ve been nice to have an even slimmer version. Even with less battery life, a slim version would add to the portability. Great video as always!
Yes, that would be a great option. I’d be down for a slimmer version 😁👍
I loved my Nomad as a kid, I definitely want to get a new one and maybe do a screen mod on it too
That must have been so cool to have this console as a kid. I remember seeing it at Walmart back in the day
It's definitely great for what it is, being a replacement for the stock Nomad power bank, I just wonder why more designers aren't trying to tackle battery mods for both the Nomad and Gamegear that fit inside the AA battery compartment. I get that they both use unusual voltages for handhelds, but I doubt that makes it impossible. I've seen internal battery mods for the GG, but they're all DIY projects.
Just feel like having a massive power wart ON the system is such an inelegant solution.
I think we may see some of those types of battery mods did the game gear soon. Stay tuned 😁👍
I think I saw a game gear mod today actually on handheld legend. I'd have to look in more detail but it was a power regulator and charger for 2 batteries.
The sega nomad doesn’t have an internal battery compartment.
There were NiCad battery grips for the Game
Gear. A Lithium ion replacement would be fairly straight forward.
As I recall the original pack just used a bent wire as the contact, the same wire formed the battery terminals
Such a blast from the past! I remember how back then we thought the Nomad was so cool despite the bulkiness and it still is.
8:25 - "Which is kinda hilarious by today's standards"
**sets down 16 year old system**
That made me chuckle.
Mate, you’re lighting is always absolutely top notch - production values the same as channels with 10x the amount of subs, keep it up!
Love how thorough the tutorial sections are in your videos! I'm not following the tutorial, but I feel like I wouldn't find myself lost if I were, despite being a complete novice at hardware modding!
That’s cool, had a Nomad as a kid, wish I still had it
The Game Gear blew my mind in the 90s. I think if I had learned about the Nomad back then, I wouldn't have survived the process of knowing that it existed.
Anyway this made me day dream: Imagine being a kid on a road trip in a big SUV or van, and you and a sibling each have one of these and could plug them into the car. Did these have 2 play connectivity? Oh man...
Growing up I had an NES and a GameBoy, and those were both great for me, but the Nomad is something else man.
If I remember correctly, the original nomad didn't have pogo pins. I think it was curved pieces of metal that acted as springs.
it was metal half circle
Just built this kit and it works great!! I had a couple minor issues because I put the push pin piece in backwards, a screw broke when I had to take it back apart. Besides that, it’s great. Thank you for the tutorial!!
You’re most welcome Doug!
Nice. I bought the original rechargable pack a couple of months ago and was thinking about replacing the dead batteries in there with new li-ion ones.
That could be a fun mod! I was thinking of doing that as well initially
Ya its a great mod, we did that and put a usb charger in it which also lights green when charged, its awesome. Look up David nelson. He does this kinda mod 😳 😏 yw. Let him know i sent ya. He does great work . Has modded two batteries packs that way. And like I said . Made it modern with micro USB port charging
great video. I found some old forums and followed instructions to mount a sony handheld camcorder bttery to the nomad. it's very similar to this, but it mods the original nomad battery pack instead of 3d printing one...this was way back , it runs for a few hours with a modded aftermarket lcd screen as well.
I think this product you reviewed here is a cleaner " friendlier", but a bit more expensive approach.
Keep up the great work! this is one of my favorite youtube channels :D lol
The Charge port is compatible with American Game Gear, European and Japanese Game Gears use the first model port used by Mega Drive.
Thank you for clarifying, I didn’t know that. Good to know 😁👍
As someone who has always had huge hands the second handhelds have a special place in my heart. This makes me seriously consider buying a new Nomad. I love my at games portable with Neto DOS but it's not as girthy as the originals.
Is it possible in the future for older, power-hungry, handhelds like this to get mods that replace power-hungry components with modern components? It would be an advanced soldering job for sure.
@Kevnev Katfute Yeah! As long as retains a cartridge slot!
I would love to see that, although I’m sure it would be difficult since a lot of the components were designed/engineered to work together. I think it would be very cool if it is possible
@@MachoNachoProductions its possible, you would have to replace entire circuits with new circuits. So like flex PCBs to replace the problematic circuit. Oh and of course understand the current design and then redesign with a better circuit.
Reminds me of the 360 controller with that middle bump.
This is what makes 3D printing such a marvelous solution for niche audiences. Like, yeah, injection molded plastic would probably be neat, but I don't think the cost for specialized tooling would be warranted for a console deemed a "commercial failure". (No knock to anybody who loves the thing, y'all enjoy yourselves playing Sonic on your ride to work and turning heads ;) )
Really neat solution. The battery door would probably be better if they just had it slide up instead of down.
Having those pins is a great idea. I have a lipo pack I bought from a guy on eBay and I have issues with the battery making proper connection to the Nomad. This solves that problem!! Sold.
The connections have been very reliable thus far. I have taken it on and off many times over the past few days and it got power every time 😁👍
Not going to lie, the main reason I hit the LIKE button was because when he did the zoom out effect he showed TH-cam being used in Dark theme which needs to go rewarded. Let this be a reminder that light mode is an abmination just like the light mode in Discord.
Built mine in the beginning of the year. Love it 🥰
Nice!
I can confirm that the Sega nomad's original rechargeable pack dose not have pogo pins, they are double pronged flexible pins.
I modded my OG rechargeable pack, but this is a much better setup id like to take something like this and add it to the original
case.
Man, that is a nice jacket you're wearing! Where'd you get it?! And fine work as always; I'm impressed with the production quality every time I watch your videos, it never gets old!
Saludos cordiales desde Michoacán México viva sega siempre
Hey Tito. I don't own a Nomad but I still love retro handhelds of all types! Thanks for another enjoyable and informative video. Just FYI, it looks like the link in the description to Laser Bear returns a 404 Not found error (at least for me). See ya in the next one.
Music on these videos always reminds me of a Peanuts Holiday special 😁
Love the peanuts, classic 😁👍
It's pretty funny, I subscribed to this channel because I wanted to fix my gameboy advance, I don't own any type of Genesis, but these videos are both so entertaining and educational, guess it just goes to show how good these videos are
Thank you so much Miilerd! I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel ☺️👍
When Retro-Bit first announced their collaboration with Sega, one of the prototypes they showed off looked like a modern take on the Nomad, with a rechargeable battery and HDMI-out. I wonder what happened to that.
Whoa, that sounds awesome! I haven’t heard of that. Would certainly be very interested in that
Ya I saw that too I can't remember who's channel actually showed it 🤔 I would Definitely get that
"Let's do a quick test..."
SpongeBob Narrator: 7 and a half hours later.
😂
Never knew about this.. Thanks for the news I can use…
I don't even have a nomad, but I'm watching anyway
Id like to own a Nomad one day honestly 🤔
7 hours is amazing!!!
Just seeing this, I have the original AA battery pack, I also had the original rechargeable pack but threw it out as it wouldn’t charge anymore, this is a great option for rechargeable batteries!
Ok so I got this for my nomad an advice if you dont want to build and dont have the patient buy one pre built. Ok so it may seem very easy witch it is but since is 3d printed some of the parts dont fit well and its hard to fit it in. I found myself sanding down most of the smaller parts with drimmel in the low setting, to make them fit in. Ok everyhing is done now to put the back plate and screw on, yes! finally after a couple of hours I finally was able to put it on my nomad. Sweet it works now to charge and enjoy. It may look easy but because it is 3d printed the smaller parts are a bit of a headache but at the end it is well worth it. So yeah go for the pre built one.
Now I know why they send you gummie bears 😉 very smart
Now if we can have a sega vmu battery fix next please 😁
as an idea - you know what other Sega product has a battery problem? The VMU! I'm surprised I haven't seen a decent rechargeble mod anywhere. *BEEEEP*
Haha, the infamous beep whenever I turn on my dreamcast. That would be a very cool mod indeed and I too would be very interested 😁👍
I have both OG battery packs. The rechargeable one is of course deader than disco. The AA pack, I just use rechargeable AAs. Will be getting this once its back in stock though. Seems like it would be MUCH lighter.
Nice dude! Yeah this would be a great battery pack to complement your originals 😁👍
Man, I had a Nomad in 5th grade centuries ago. Wish I had this before I sold it because I always had it plugged in and it messed up the charger port 😒
That's pretty awesome. I have my battery pack but having a modern solution is a great alternative
Agree, this is a great battery pack to complement your original 👍
That’s a pretty cool mod
The OEM pack that uses AA batteries has a springy oval wire for the connections. This modern kit might be under my radar in the future.
I'm slightly intrigued that the both the rechargeable and AA adapters are becoming harder to find. I have a rechargeable buried in my basement and 3 of the AA adapters (got one in a trade, one from my job and one with my second Nomad). I was actually considering selling off one, but knowing my luck I might find another.
Yeah the one that holds 6aa batteries is getting really expensive.
There’s nothing odd about the fact it (Nomad) was only sold in North America. This is where the Genesis platform sold the most.
Remember: the gummies are ESSENTIAL
You might say this is the grand pappy of the Nintendo Switch as you could connect the Nomad to a TV via a video cable and it also had a input for an addition controller so that two could play either at home on the TV or on the go. Would have been great for road trips. Going to have to go dig mine out of the closet and see if it suffered from the dreaded Sega capacitor plague.
The size and battery life/issues prevented it from being practically portable, and only about 1 million were sold
But I see what you're saying
Pretty cool mod, works quite well but lots of room for improvements! (Which is a good thing)
I noticed on their page it gives a warning not to use if you did a 5v mod to the system. I was wanting to do the 5v LCD mod as well, will that affect it?
So I guess it doesn't support the low battery indicator? It looks like it cut off almost immediately after the low battery light came on.
Lifesaver 🏄♀️
If the nomad runs off 9v then you can use a game gear battery pack with it.
Also ordered the battery pack a when they first came out. After a run through of several bad prints, and extremely tight fitting parts, I finally gave up after no email response. Great idea, but I guess my run was the beta test. Now I just have two 3500 mah batteries laying around.
I would try and reach out to them again, I’m sure they’ll be able to help you out
@@MachoNachoProductions I did three different times via email and their ticketing system. Even offered to pay for the part I needed replaced because I wasn't sure if I broke it or it was just a bad part. No reply.
A Nomad's Essential in 2021
Couldn’t agree more 😁
I was going to purchase this, but the warning on the site kinda scared me! Is there anyone that can explain a scenario where a 5v lcd mod would affect the power rails? I'm weary because Nomads are so expensive! Thanks anyone who can answer this! Mine was modified for 5volts. The diode on the LCD driver was removed and it was wired for 5v from the VCC to the regulator input.
That is great but now we just need a battery pack for the Sega Game Gear. I know it has the 6 AA batteries but they had the external battery pack that went on back. It would be good for someone if they went on vacation with their Game Gear and forgot extra batteries.
I think we’ll see a game gear version at some point 👍
Its sold out anyway but on the site it says not for IPS modded Nomads.
Can you see if you can do a mod on psp vita
¿Se le puede sacar salida HDMI?
Looks cool
It works quite well. I’m glad we have this as an option
Anyone else surprised this design doesn't have USB-c input?
that looks cool
So does the ‘preassembled kit’ with ‘batter meter’ priced at $60 include the batteries? I’m a little unclear on that. I see there’s another kit at $40
The Nomad was a mistake from Sega, too heavy and too big, however it is nowadays a very attractive retro game console 😎. Never left USA but there is a prototype in Japan .
As usual, your video is awesome
The battery cover wouldn't be an issue if it slid in from the top. Perhaps this can be done in a v2 of the item. A shame it;s out of stock, would dig this for my Nomad. If only there were an IPS screen for it!
Agree! That’s could be a great design update
Can the "Nomad Protect" charging board be purchased separately?
I have been waiting for a long time to buy this battery pack, but they are ALWAYS out of stock. Do you guys know if those are available somewhere else, or when will they be back in stock?
Are you really playing a Sega Portable system if you aren't plugged into the wall though? I remember spending many hours playing my Game Gear plugged into the wall, I don't think I really experienced portable games until I picked up a GameBoy a few years after getting my GG.
The original rechargeable battery pack doesn't use pogo terminals.
Funny this video drops. I was just complaining last night about the battery life of my own NOMAD. The NOMAD has pretty heavy mods however -- I wonder how long one of these guys will last.
I'll pick up a kit! Appreciate the video! Also, the original battery pack does not come with pogo "pins" per say -- they are more like half circle metal discs that are spring loaded. 👀
Interesting, thanks for letting me know 😁👍
Might be a stupid question, but are rechargeable Nimh AA batteries compatible with this?
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i have road rash three still but not the console to play that game
Did this episode get exported wrong or something? Way more compression artifacts.
How many Amps are needed to power the Nomad? if it's less than 2A continuous and 4A max peak, you can try with Panasonic/Sanyo 18650 batteries. Like From Spain!
Does someone build an analog stick mod for wanderswan? Replacing the top dpad with switch analog..
I got rid of my two nomads last year with battery packs. 😕
3:31 You mean a Puyo.
Ordering the fully assembled kit doesn’t work. You scroll to the option and the website un-scrolls it. Maybe they’re sold out? 😔
I would message Colin at laser bear. I believe these are made to order and shouldn’t be sold out
@@MachoNachoProductions I tried the form on the site. Hopefully he gets back to me. I too would like to untether my Nomad from the wall!
@@MrMegaManFan I was just able to buy a pre-assembled kit from them last week and it was delivered 2 days ago. I think they buy the parts and do the assembly in waves, so you need to check back occasionally to see if they've done a drop.
Has anyone tried this pack with an everdrive? I have an mega everdrive x5 that won’t boot with the battery pack. It work fine with the AC adapter.
This is on a recaped system with lcddrv.
I would expect lithium batteries to last longer, if only because alkaline batteries aren't able to handle high power draw situations. For those unaware, drawing more power from alkaline batteries causes a disproportionately greater reduction in battery life. Like any portable gaming system, lithium is the way to go.
We got them in Canada too Eh.
True, I should have said North America instead of the United States
Have the battery door slide up not down
That would be a good design update. I think that may solve my issue. Great suggestion!
I would of modded mine but I only have one and don't want to ruin the original product GO SEGA🤘💯p.s. I actually thought of replacing the screen🤷♂️ not sure because I know I won't buy a second one🤑glad I got mine before they skyrocketed in price🤑 I paid $50 USdlrs in box about 10yrs ago🤗
Sega love ❤️
Me too!
Is this comparable with the sega game gear?
nice, already sold out
awesome!
Agree 💯
Does this work with the easy LCD mod you did a while back? Is voltage an issue?
This works perfectly with my lcd mod. No issues at all 👍
@@MachoNachoProductions awesome