I feel you man. I don't mind losing to a tri-brigade player who knows what he's doing, but when Eldlich people flip skill drain, order and vanities emptiness it makes me kinda angry to lose.
use Royal Decree or Mystical Space Typhoon. My Monarch Defeated 2 Eldlich monsters on the field when my opponent activated Skill Drain and I have Mystical Space Typhoon in my hand
@@marcomoreno919 x3 Edea x3 Eidos x2 Anchamoufrite x1 Mobius (you can replace with other monarch such as Kuraz or Delg) x2 Vanity's Fiend x1 Caius (again you can replace it with other Monarchs) x2 Caius the Mega Monarch x2 Ehther x2 Erebus x1 Trade in x3 Tenacity of the Monarch x3 Pantheism of the Monarch x2 Domain of the true Monarch x2 March of the Monarch x2 Mystical Space Typhoon x3 Monarch Stormforth x2 Torrential Tribute x2 Escalation of the Monarch x2 The Prime Monarch Monarchs gameplay depends on the cards that you first draw. You either get a bad set of cards on your first turn or one that can put a lockdown on your opponent. Yugioh is base on your luck and how you play your cards in your hands. As much as possible I don't include spell or traps that are not Monarch related because it will destroy their cycle. Goodluck on your duels.
This deck can't compete against decks that can do heavy negations. You just have to find your way around it. Or find some spells and traps that can counter the negations.
Never thought to see Monarchs without Edea and Eidos, but yeah getting hand trapped or stopped by any card will definitely make any Monarch player feel like they've lost at that point when starting out with them.
Great breakdown of everything, as always! I've tried using just Mithra as well and it's been good. I honestly really do miss what Edea and Eidos bring though. I love that you mentioned chicken game cause I was going to try it out as well. It seems like a decent fit for Monarchs. That will be the next thing I try when I get some more gems.
@@eaglefear58 that might be it Don Juan is known to be a Dino enthusiast, and with the Master Duel Banlist True King Dino Yang Zing is a good deck to play, getting Denglong + VFD on the field with Tyranno in a semi-consistent way is definitely possible.
Finally see you add Maxx C, was wondering why you did not run it earlier before this. I love monarch and all honest truth, the deck is great if you don't brick. However, twin twister is really not my go to card and i would rather run feather duster and heavy storm duster. Because discarding hand can be a little too expensive for monarch at times and it can really hurt us, I try heavy storms duster over MST is because it remove 2 back rolls and I know is kind of slow at times. But that back roll at times you can really troll with your search. For example: I at times show them my monarch traps and the opponent would imagine I was planning to return cards from trash or just tribute sum. They would ignore or aim to destroy it, this is where the opening happen for me. You force out back role removal to avoid field spell remove or just force them to discard hand for there twin twister to remove back role that you can play heavy storm later or just set it chain remove there set up if they do have. Another great back role removal I enjoy trolling with is dust tornado, which for who ever on the budget can run it remove back role and set a heavy storm duster after they have complete target your back role and miss. Is just a personal sharing, I hope this help you out in plat. I have challenging time against drytron in plat due to keep going second and there field advantage is just too great for me to counter it at times.
It took a while but I got to plat V with the older version of monarchs without maxx c, I'm glad to see a new decklist and thoughts from you now the deck looks pretty solid and surprisingly different.
The deck has a healthy level of trade off between variants. In my experience at the squires can allow you to make comebacks off top decks because you have more GY utility as well as give you some crazy extensions if you are lucky enough not to play into a hand trap. The builds where you don’t use squires are better at playing around hand traps and negations. They can’t extend as far as squire build but it is safer and can probably give you better odds against the meta despite the lower ceiling. I can also see the issue with kuraz. So many power cards are being played can you really afford to give the opponent a draw? You don’t always want to pop your cards either and you definitely don’t want to draw into it. I also had to drop seleglare after reaching plat. Very good card but it really belongs in a side deck at that level.
I'm not missing Edea that much anymore outside of grind games which is rare at the higher ranks. It's either Domain/Vanity's lock scoop by your opponent or bust. It's rarely in-between.
I have the question. Why you didn't add Nibiru on the deck bcz i used maxxC my hands is too much card but some situation i can't break the too many summon pls adv.
What's your opinion on a monarch build revolving around vanity ruler instead, where you can lock your opponent out of special summons but maintaining the special summons for your tribute fodder for yourself and maybe instead or maybe even attempting to go for extra deck even tho a lot of monarch cards don't support extra deck capability.
I'm main Monarchs, so to counter Skilldrain, and all spell/trap negations, I put 2 MST and 2 Mobious. I still haven't use MaxxC because of the timing issue. I also put only 1 Majesty and 1 Vanity because they won't last on the field when I'm dueling against Meta decks. I also put 1 Harpie's feather duster to clean those opponents traps. I've been thinking about putting Trade-In or the Ten Thousand Dragon, Eldlich is still a pain to duel and also Zombie world field. Have you tried building the Macro Monarch? Is it still competitive to the current meta?
@@riccardodellorto4267 I didn't say Mobious will be used to destroy Skill Drain. MST will destroy Skill Drain. Mobious will destroy Royal Decree or Imperial Order or other annoying continuous traps/spells that will hinder the Monarchs. Defeated 2 Eldlich in the field when I summoned a Monarch and he activated Skill Drain and I have MST in my hand only for that annoying trap
I wish there was a way to search monarchs without needing a tribute summon. Sometimes my hand has all the good pieces except a monarch. This deck is inconsistent because of the bricks and is extremely vulnerable to ash blossom.
I was just wondering what are the thought son Proof of Pruflas since it's effect is: If you control no Special summoned monsters: you can special summon this card from your hand, also you cannot special summon other monsters for the rest of the turn. Immediately after this effect resolves, tribute summon 1 monster.
So I decided to play this on ladder, built Monarch as one of my first decks. First game I open double C, Erebus, Ether, Prime, Pend guy. Pend guy draws me a second Erebus. I summon him set one and pass. My opponent? Full Drytron. I'm in Gold.
When is it good to use vanitys fiend against your opponent? Other than tributing it for erebus, idk really when i should prevent my opponent from special summoning
Even though Mithra gives your opponent a token, you probably have them domain locked so the token won't matter. But the biggest reason Mithra is better is because she chainblocks for your big monarchs. Erebus cl1 Mithra cl2 and then they can't ash your Erebus or negate it with a solemn strike. Still, pruflas might have a spot in the deck at some point.
Sometimes, when i put "return of the monarch" effect in a chain, before resolving it appears a message "you missed your opportunity to use this effect" and i don't draw anything. Do you know why it happens? Am i too slow?
That is because you missed the timing to activate it. Cards that state "when ..." may lose timing, while those with "if..." wont lose timing. For example you might have lost timing for your RoTM for, chain 1 prime monarch eff, chain 2 escalation eff, after immediately resolves escalation you tribute summon a monarch. Since your monarch hits the field then the chain 1 resolves, your RoTM misses the timing, so you ALWAYS want to make your summon be the last thing to happen in a chain to get RoTM to get value, same with Kuraz, the Light Monarch. Sry for the long explanation
@@vudeja4961 so, after i activate return of the monarch effect, i can't put anything else in a chain if I want to draw, correct? What if my opponent puts something in a chain, do i still draw?
@@riccardodellorto4267 no, you just want to select your order of activation, which in master duel you can change in the duel setting from auto to manual. Make sure the RoTM resolves by choosing your summon be the last thing to happen (the first to start a chain). Your opponent chaining to your RoTM eff wont stop you. I recommend you try adding Kuraz the Light Monarch and try in solo mode to summon kuraz through ehther while RoTM is on your field, once you get both of them to activate and not miss the timing, you will understand how cards with "when..." work just fine
I thought I was the only one constantly losing the damn coin toss I tracked the results three times only once was it 50/50 at best I got 80/20 it’s ridiculous.
as a long monarch player its ludacris to me to see no eidos and edea. but master duel is a poising meta pit. i guess this calls for weird build descisions
I feel you man. I don't mind losing to a tri-brigade player who knows what he's doing, but when Eldlich people flip skill drain, order and vanities emptiness it makes me kinda angry to lose.
use Royal Decree or Mystical Space Typhoon. My Monarch Defeated 2 Eldlich monsters on the field when my opponent activated Skill Drain and I have Mystical Space Typhoon in my hand
Eldlich decks depends on Skill Drain, Royal Decree, and Imperial Order against any decks.
@@Japheth123078 could u send me your deck? Im new to yugioh and monarchs is the first deck im trying to build, thx!
@@marcomoreno919 x3 Edea
x3 Eidos
x2 Anchamoufrite
x1 Mobius (you can replace with other monarch such as Kuraz or Delg)
x2 Vanity's Fiend
x1 Caius (again you can replace it with other Monarchs)
x2 Caius the Mega Monarch
x2 Ehther
x2 Erebus
x1 Trade in
x3 Tenacity of the Monarch
x3 Pantheism of the Monarch
x2 Domain of the true Monarch
x2 March of the Monarch
x2 Mystical Space Typhoon
x3 Monarch Stormforth
x2 Torrential Tribute
x2 Escalation of the Monarch
x2 The Prime Monarch
Monarchs gameplay depends on the cards that you first draw. You either get a bad set of cards on your first turn or one that can put a lockdown on your opponent. Yugioh is base on your luck and how you play your cards in your hands. As much as possible I don't include spell or traps that are not Monarch related because it will destroy their cycle. Goodluck on your duels.
This deck can't compete against decks that can do heavy negations. You just have to find your way around it. Or find some spells and traps that can counter the negations.
Seeing brilliant fusion limited in md makes me want to try ED Monarch again
Never thought to see Monarchs without Edea and Eidos, but yeah getting hand trapped or stopped by any card will definitely make any Monarch player feel like they've lost at that point when starting out with them.
Great breakdown of everything, as always! I've tried using just Mithra as well and it's been good. I honestly really do miss what Edea and Eidos bring though. I love that you mentioned chicken game cause I was going to try it out as well. It seems like a decent fit for Monarchs. That will be the next thing I try when I get some more gems.
I really like this new video format you got great work lithium. Absolute pleasure to watch you whenever yugioh drags me back in.
I'm gonna try Monarchs on my alt account, TKDYZ took up like all my gems. Much love keep it up!
TKDYZ?? True king dino yang zing?
@@eaglefear58 that might be it Don Juan is known to be a Dino enthusiast, and with the Master Duel Banlist True King Dino Yang Zing is a good deck to play, getting Denglong + VFD on the field with Tyranno in a semi-consistent way is definitely possible.
Grinding like Grinder Golem
Love seeing the Drytron players struggle :P
Finally see you add Maxx C, was wondering why you did not run it earlier before this. I love monarch and all honest truth, the deck is great if you don't brick. However, twin twister is really not my go to card and i would rather run feather duster and heavy storm duster.
Because discarding hand can be a little too expensive for monarch at times and it can really hurt us, I try heavy storms duster over MST is because it remove 2 back rolls and I know is kind of slow at times. But that back roll at times you can really troll with your search.
For example: I at times show them my monarch traps and the opponent would imagine I was planning to return cards from trash or just tribute sum. They would ignore or aim to destroy it, this is where the opening happen for me. You force out back role removal to avoid field spell remove or just force them to discard hand for there twin twister to remove back role that you can play heavy storm later or just set it chain remove there set up if they do have.
Another great back role removal I enjoy trolling with is dust tornado, which for who ever on the budget can run it remove back role and set a heavy storm duster after they have complete target your back role and miss.
Is just a personal sharing, I hope this help you out in plat. I have challenging time against drytron in plat due to keep going second and there field advantage is just too great for me to counter it at times.
I noticed my Edea and Eidos kept getting hand trapped, I realized mithra was the choice
Ahhh the pain of going 2nd and not drawing your Maxx c
It took a while but I got to plat V with the older version of monarchs without maxx c, I'm glad to see a new decklist and thoughts from you now the deck looks pretty solid and surprisingly different.
I really like how you stomp that Drytron deck. He wasn't even able to use his Ultimateness negation so he just scooped .😁
Lets gooo monarch
Menaged to hit platinum aggain with domain monarch . Thx for all the videos and tips on how to play the deck
The deck has a healthy level of trade off between variants.
In my experience at the squires can allow you to make comebacks off top decks because you have more GY utility as well as give you some crazy extensions if you are lucky enough not to play into a hand trap.
The builds where you don’t use squires are better at playing around hand traps and negations. They can’t extend as far as squire build but it is safer and can probably give you better odds against the meta despite the lower ceiling.
I can also see the issue with kuraz. So many power cards are being played can you really afford to give the opponent a draw? You don’t always want to pop your cards either and you definitely don’t want to draw into it.
I also had to drop seleglare after reaching plat. Very good card but it really belongs in a side deck at that level.
You think that triple tactics talent should be mained now? At least 2
I'm not missing Edea that much anymore outside of grind games which is rare at the higher ranks. It's either Domain/Vanity's lock scoop by your opponent or bust. It's rarely in-between.
I have the question. Why you didn't add Nibiru on the deck bcz i used maxxC my hands is too much card but some situation i can't break the too many summon pls adv.
What's your opinion on a monarch build revolving around vanity ruler instead, where you can lock your opponent out of special summons but maintaining the special summons for your tribute fodder for yourself and maybe instead or maybe even attempting to go for extra deck even tho a lot of monarch cards don't support extra deck capability.
For the tribrigade game those two back row one of them could be revolt.
I just reached plat with this deck. This deck is soo good. Thank u so much!! 😭🙏
I'm main Monarchs, so to counter Skilldrain, and all spell/trap negations, I put 2 MST and 2 Mobious. I still haven't use MaxxC because of the timing issue. I also put only 1 Majesty and 1 Vanity because they won't last on the field when I'm dueling against Meta decks. I also put 1 Harpie's feather duster to clean those opponents traps. I've been thinking about putting Trade-In or the Ten Thousand Dragon, Eldlich is still a pain to duel and also Zombie world field. Have you tried building the Macro Monarch? Is it still competitive to the current meta?
What is MST? How does mobius destroy skill drain? I use caius and if they chain skill drain, the effect doesn't work
@@riccardodellorto4267 I didn't say Mobious will be used to destroy Skill Drain. MST will destroy Skill Drain. Mobious will destroy Royal Decree or Imperial Order or other annoying continuous traps/spells that will hinder the Monarchs. Defeated 2 Eldlich in the field when I summoned a Monarch and he activated Skill Drain and I have MST in my hand only for that annoying trap
MST (Mystical Space Typhoon)
If you don't like using Mobious against Eldlich, you can use Royal Decree to negate Skill Drain or any traps that will stop Monarchs
Whats ur highest rank with this build?
I hope we'll have a Monarch that has another effect than the one when it's tribute summoned, SS from hand would be nice !
Nibiru, the honorary monarch haha
*Illusory Snatcher.* Look it up 😉.
I'm very interested in seeing what you can do with Witchcraft Haines in Monarchs
Does lithium stream? Would love to watch him grind plat with monarchs
I can't even imagine dark magician with so many flood gates. 🤔 Maybe the real master duel meta is "favorite turbo/engine" + Maxx c + floodgates
Vassal might be better then proof in this deck. Wasn't to sure but does look better since it can't be hand trapped.
Great deck!
What about a Qliphort deck for Master Duel?
I wish there was a way to search monarchs without needing a tribute summon. Sometimes my hand has all the good pieces except a monarch. This deck is inconsistent because of the bricks and is extremely vulnerable to ash blossom.
I was just wondering what are the thought son Proof of Pruflas since it's effect is: If you control no Special summoned monsters: you can special summon this card from your hand, also you cannot special summon other monsters for the rest of the turn. Immediately after this effect resolves, tribute summon 1 monster.
It's legit a wack version of mirtha
Change your name to “Cyber Dragon” or something similar and they’ll make you go first every time 😂 it’s what I did 🤣
5head
big brains
I also lose every single coin toss, what actually happened?
So I decided to play this on ladder, built Monarch as one of my first decks. First game I open double C, Erebus, Ether, Prime, Pend guy. Pend guy draws me a second Erebus. I summon him set one and pass. My opponent?
Full Drytron.
I'm in Gold.
When is it good to use vanitys fiend against your opponent? Other than tributing it for erebus, idk really when i should prevent my opponent from special summoning
As soon as possible 🙂
I would try to put a monarch erupt card in there
I’m having a lot of success with this deck. So much that I dropped money irl to play it too
Bro you are a master of monarchs, what could we do to avoid bricks with monarch? no maxx c option please
3 upstart and 3 chicken game 😅
I remember playing chicken game in the deck absolutely broken
Whats the game plan with chicken game?
I add call to counter ash and some Eldich
I feel like Maxx c is not enough sometimes they always have blossom :(
Both of em got to go, they're such a crutch easy get out of jail type cards
How do you beat drytron going second i feel like even if you max c they have you locked too hard?
You don't I guessm
The only way to win would be to special summon a monster, then summon Majesty's Fiend + Domain
Why no Pruflas in the main?
Mithra is better
Even though Mithra gives your opponent a token, you probably have them domain locked so the token won't matter. But the biggest reason Mithra is better is because she chainblocks for your big monarchs. Erebus cl1 Mithra cl2 and then they can't ash your Erebus or negate it with a solemn strike. Still, pruflas might have a spot in the deck at some point.
Got it, Thanks guys :)
May i know what your winrate approximately was in gold with monarch deck?
Gold was easy, plat is hard
Not having the greatest of luck with this deck just tried it and bricked so hard for like 4 games in a row…….
are you going to try grass monarchs?
That doesnt sound too good? 😅
Sometimes, when i put "return of the monarch" effect in a chain, before resolving it appears a message "you missed your opportunity to use this effect" and i don't draw anything.
Do you know why it happens? Am i too slow?
That is because you missed the timing to activate it. Cards that state "when ..." may lose timing, while those with "if..." wont lose timing. For example you might have lost timing for your RoTM for, chain 1 prime monarch eff, chain 2 escalation eff, after immediately resolves escalation you tribute summon a monarch. Since your monarch hits the field then the chain 1 resolves, your RoTM misses the timing, so you ALWAYS want to make your summon be the last thing to happen in a chain to get RoTM to get value, same with Kuraz, the Light Monarch. Sry for the long explanation
@@vudeja4961 so, after i activate return of the monarch effect, i can't put anything else in a chain if I want to draw, correct?
What if my opponent puts something in a chain, do i still draw?
@@riccardodellorto4267 no, you just want to select your order of activation, which in master duel you can change in the duel setting from auto to manual. Make sure the RoTM resolves by choosing your summon be the last thing to happen (the first to start a chain). Your opponent chaining to your RoTM eff wont stop you. I recommend you try adding Kuraz the Light Monarch and try in solo mode to summon kuraz through ehther while RoTM is on your field, once you get both of them to activate and not miss the timing, you will understand how cards with "when..." work just fine
@@vudeja4961 i'll try that, thank you!
I also doch not like kuraz.
1. if u have in Hand
2. can not attack
3. if heute destroys ur oppenent draws
bricks so hard without edea and edos
I thought I was the only one constantly losing the damn coin toss I tracked the results three times only once was it 50/50 at best I got 80/20 it’s ridiculous.
I almost 100% lost it
why is not one playng prufla? i main monarch too and I am plat 2 u should test prufla belive me
Is ur decklist the same with some pruflas or you got ur own decklist? If so what is it?
Ed Sheeran
This deck man... as much as I love it but its inconsistent and bricks a lot
Are you a F2P-Player?
your face too messy to have voice this smooth 😳
☺️
as a long monarch player its ludacris to me to see no eidos and edea. but master duel is a poising meta pit. i guess this calls for weird build descisions
Me waiting you accept my friend request at MD