Experts should be provided some context about the game, such as: -Arthur is a total amateur hunter and fisherman -Even if then animation is not shown, the parts of the body like meat, fat, horns, antlers etc are harvested -Most carcasses can be given to trappers, butchers and out camp cook for further use - Not all carcasses can be picked up or carried by horse
and once again they need better game play that's not just an intern playing the game, like the tomahawk clip is not something that should of been included and most of the kills is just spur of the moment kills not anything that properly displays how hunter works in rdr2.
@@enthusiasticallydry listen to the conversation between Charles and Arthur in chapter one and between Hosea and Arthur in the chapter 2 mission when they go to hunting.
@@JaguarBST yes, but that’s compared to hosea and charles. also, hosea says “if i remember correctly you blew it to pieces with a shotgun.” but if hosea has known arthur since he was 15, that could be anytime from last week to 21 years ago.
@@JaguarBST this is mainly coming from the fact that he CAN still hunt in game, and when he hunts with hamish he never talks about his ‘amateur’ hunting skills, unlike when he fishes
Donny Dust is an awesome expert to have on the show, I hope we see more of him Also you could have shown him the hunting outfits of the game, see what he thinks of them and which he would wear
This guy did a fantastic job on the video. Great summary of things and able to dumb it down for people like myself who has no idea about how to properly do any of this stuff.
Okay, whoever recorded this gameplay for him has never played red dead before recording. They did everything AWFUL. Can’t ride their horse, uses the wrong guns(including a tomahawk) and has un cared for weapons
I haven’t watched the full video yet, but most of the time they just showed him taking the hide and leaving the carcass there. I wish they would show him hunting and taking the carcass back to camp and bringing it to the camp chef because they always say it’s a waste of meat and all that but like on the main story, it’s definitely not you use that stuff. I’m not going to proofread this comment because I’m using talk to text so I rambled out a lot there
Love Donny and his review of this game. Tho for me, I think the skinning animations in the game were more so to get the point across rather than trying to go for a super realistic approach. Cause if they did, the time it would take him to skin an animal would be way longer and more tedious. In my opinion, they did a good job with the skinning animations. Theres a lot of things that are accurate about them and a lot that aren't, but at the end of the day, it's a game 🤷👌
Right?! People playing the game would have been pissed if in order to get a hide, you had to set up a rack and stretch and dry the pelt for who knows how many days.
Exactly. That push on most animals that plays during the very beginning of skinning animations is there to straighten the animal out so the animation can play properly.
Having grown up in Colorado one of the things that I really appreciated about the game was the bird sounds. Absolutely dead on. As you are walking, or hunting or riding slowly in the game, the bird sounds in my headphones reminded me of my childhood before phones or even walkman radios were constantly in my ears.
The gameplay was a bad showing though to. No tracking, using lever actions, pistols and tomahawk... I'm cringing from a gameplay point of view that they're not even trying to give the best sides.
@@TheMonkeyEmperorit’s weird that the lever actions in game are considered “bad” for hunting, considering a shit load of hunting at this point in time would’ve been done with lever actions. It’s a deadly enough weapon to take just about anything you’d be hunting down.
@Just_Some_Clown I wouldn't actually know, but im betting a 9mm round wouldn't any more damage then a 308😅 orrr idk what the rifles use but point is probably still valid. Lever are using pistol size vs a rifle caliber... yuh know turkeys-deers would be fine
@TheMonkeyEmporer lever guns use a wide range of rounds, some common ones are .44 and 45-70 which both shoot a much larger slug then a 9mm. Some lever guns fire rifle ammo too such as 308 like you mentioned. It’s just a loading system, not a caliber
I'd say his assessments were wrong on every level in regards to "fun gameplay". He complained the skinning was done too fast so not accurate. Would it have been better if every time you butchered an animal you had to sit trough a 1-2 hour long cut scene? It would be more accurate but it would make for horrible gameplay. This guy might be an expert on survival but obviously completely oblivious to what makes good gameplay.
Good video! I do wish the experts would be given some basic info about the games they are shown..or at least some info on the way the footage is being played.
a lot of the cooler stuff in rdr2 hunting is from the crafting mechanics, making bait, our main character Arthur has 2 main friends that teach him to hunt, fish, and craft, Hosea, a man in his 50s who essentially raised Arthur with their friend Dutch and was born in the mountains hunting bears, and Charles, and half African, half Indian man who manages to make Arthur look weak in comparison to the stuff he does, Hosea is much better at taking down more gameish animals that you either take to sell or just for the fun of hunting, rabbits, bears, that kinda thing. Charles excels with animals that you'd hunt for quality food like deer or bison. They also show Arthur the different ways to hunt, Hosea shows off hunting with traditional weapons, rifles, repeaters, Charles shows him how to use a bow and how to apply more usually niche weapons like knives and such. Hosea introduces Arthur to legendary animals, massive unique 1 of a kind members of a species scattered around, 1000 pound grizzlies, 9 foot tall moose, god dang 15 feet long alligators. All sorts of cool stuff.
I'm glad that he talks about skinning the jackrabbit -- I always wondered if that's really the way to skin it. The side quest where Arthur teaches a widow up in Willard's Rest to hunt a jackrabbit and skin it by pulling it apart makes me wonder. Of course, in the end RDR2 is a game. If it goes too deep into realism, Arthur will take awhile to skin an animal. I miss hunting Legendary Grizzly with Hosea. :(
That's actually one of the bests traits in all time periods: always be cautious & aware of the strangers around you while preparing for the worst. As a survivalist knows more then anyone always trust your gut/ instincts & surroundings!
When it comes to Arthur doing things quickly, you gotta factor in the fact that a minute is an hour to him. Still remarkably fast, but not as impossible. And we don’t see everything as well, unless Arthur just wears a diaper all game
With the basic needs mod you really have to make him pee and stock up on water and make your horse drink, and if you don't dress to the climate you're in you die a lot quicker. A lot! But I alsp feel that we just don't see everything and while sleeping and loading in the game he did some things first to not have to use a diaper... And use of no water is explainable he's an alcoholic and drinks coffee instead off water.
Question for any hunters I the us dies hunting over there have the same benefits that deer hunting and pheasant and pigeon shooting has here in the UK that is that its good conservation and both keeps the numbers at an eco friendly amount and helps prevent in breeding here we shoot wild deer to keep their numbers down as we wiped all the wild wolves out in the middle ages
the skinning is good enough tbh its an outlaw game after all who the hell would want to wait that long just for a single hide in a game that literally req lots of different ones for its sachel clothes and decor to camp lol
Greetings Donny. I lived and worked as a Park Ranger in South Africa for many years. I know what it`s like to shoot a charging animal Thankfully didn`t happen often. Better to read the warning signals it is telling you Once you have realised it isn`t a mock charge though you have seconds to decide. We spent ages practicing speed shooting with our rifles. I learnt a lot about different plants and what uses and medicine they provide also as well as tracking.
If I’m hunting a bison I use the rare sniper and aim for the head that’s how you get 3* pelts for most animals using the right caliber and weapon does have its ways of giving you a better pelt. Also the trinket does help
With the bear and the bison he’s not actually stabbing into its guts. He’s actually bashing it with his shoulder to position it better to start skinning. It’s just a mix of poor angles and maybe a bit of animation jank. But he is just shoving it a bit.
Yep foxes or coyotes you use repeaters. The rest you'll have to use rifles/appropriate arrows. Or better yet have that trinket which improves your chances in getting perfect pelts. Real handy when I was doing those tedious hunting requests.
One of my most memorable experiences was this: I rode up unexpectedly on an entire herd of bison. Immediately switched on dead eye and took out the entire herd of like 20 bison. Needless to say, could not harvest everything, so I went back to sell the things I had, came back, and angry Native Americans were like "You son of a bitch!!!!" and then started shooting me. Immediately thought "yeah, I deserved that."
So I've noticed with any other hunting game nothing compared to the level of skinning like RDR2. Some day we'll get a game with more realistic skinning and everything else.
I did that up in the Grizzlies. The huge bear growling while its fur matted with blood (it was devouring a deer) and Arthur just stands there smoking a cigar.
He's the trapper!
S H O R E
he kinda looks like rick grimes lmao
True
Its all about knowing the land
Did he also once track an ill-tempered Moose across the ice just to eat a square meal?
Experts should be provided some context about the game, such as:
-Arthur is a total amateur hunter and fisherman
-Even if then animation is not shown, the parts of the body like meat, fat, horns, antlers etc are harvested
-Most carcasses can be given to trappers, butchers and out camp cook for further use
- Not all carcasses can be picked up or carried by horse
and once again they need better game play that's not just an intern playing the game, like the tomahawk clip is not something that should of been included and most of the kills is just spur of the moment kills not anything that properly displays how hunter works in rdr2.
arthur isn’t a _total_ amateur hunter. he’s more than an amateur. fishing however….
@@enthusiasticallydry listen to the conversation between Charles and Arthur in chapter one and between Hosea and Arthur in the chapter 2 mission when they go to hunting.
@@JaguarBST yes, but that’s compared to hosea and charles. also, hosea says “if i remember correctly you blew it to pieces with a shotgun.” but if hosea has known arthur since he was 15, that could be anytime from last week to 21 years ago.
@@JaguarBST this is mainly coming from the fact that he CAN still hunt in game, and when he hunts with hamish he never talks about his ‘amateur’ hunting skills, unlike when he fishes
“Potential adversaries could be looking at you”
-shows Micah😂
I meann
Donny Dust is an awesome expert to have on the show, I hope we see more of him
Also you could have shown him the hunting outfits of the game, see what he thinks of them and which he would wear
Facts! That would be so cool
fck Anarchy
*what's this? A gameology video that isn't recycled footage? About time.*
pfp fits this comment perfectly
Hey where’s the big tiddy kevin 😢
@@paradise5973😂
This guy did a fantastic job on the video. Great summary of things and able to dumb it down for people like myself who has no idea about how to properly do any of this stuff.
Okay, whoever recorded this gameplay for him has never played red dead before recording. They did everything AWFUL. Can’t ride their horse, uses the wrong guns(including a tomahawk) and has un cared for weapons
I haven’t watched the full video yet, but most of the time they just showed him taking the hide and leaving the carcass there. I wish they would show him hunting and taking the carcass back to camp and bringing it to the camp chef because they always say it’s a waste of meat and all that but like on the main story, it’s definitely not you use that stuff. I’m not going to proofread this comment because I’m using talk to text so I rambled out a lot there
You have to pick up the carcass and load it onto your horse, then you can bring it to camp for the cook
If you look in the right corner, it shows what’s being taken. Nothing is left.
That’s just for animation purposes, you take a lot of meat from it. Plus you can always bring the carcass back if you want.
cheese burger
cheese burger
How did Our Big Cheesy boi get here from Far Cry 5 Montana?
@@lahen507he got the diabetes
LOL
Correct.
4:32
"Each time you spray a layer, let it dry. Once it's dry, do it again."
Sbill Fwift
This guy looks like Rick Grimes
You mean Ricky Dicky Doo-Dah Grimes?
Nah he is otis from devils rejects !
That was my first thought
Nah. Otis Driftwood from The devil's rejects.
holy shit he grew a beard since the heli took him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love Donny and his review of this game. Tho for me, I think the skinning animations in the game were more so to get the point across rather than trying to go for a super realistic approach. Cause if they did, the time it would take him to skin an animal would be way longer and more tedious. In my opinion, they did a good job with the skinning animations. Theres a lot of things that are accurate about them and a lot that aren't, but at the end of the day, it's a game 🤷👌
Right?! People playing the game would have been pissed if in order to get a hide, you had to set up a rack and stretch and dry the pelt for who knows how many days.
6:30 he did not puncture the animal, he just pushed the body, to make sure it was dead/just to push it into an easier position
Exactly. That push on most animals that plays during the very beginning of skinning animations is there to straighten the animal out so the animation can play properly.
Having grown up in Colorado one of the things that I really appreciated about the game was the bird sounds. Absolutely dead on. As you are walking, or hunting or riding slowly in the game, the bird sounds in my headphones reminded me of my childhood before phones or even walkman radios were constantly in my ears.
“They have gameplay during day and during night, and that’s accurate”
It was good to see an actual critique not just amazement at the features , donny was generous with his assessment I reckon
The gameplay was a bad showing though to. No tracking, using lever actions, pistols and tomahawk...
I'm cringing from a gameplay point of view that they're not even trying to give the best sides.
@@TheMonkeyEmperorit’s weird that the lever actions in game are considered “bad” for hunting, considering a shit load of hunting at this point in time would’ve been done with lever actions. It’s a deadly enough weapon to take just about anything you’d be hunting down.
@Just_Some_Clown I wouldn't actually know, but im betting a 9mm round wouldn't any more damage then a 308😅 orrr idk what the rifles use but point is probably still valid. Lever are using pistol size vs a rifle caliber... yuh know turkeys-deers would be fine
@TheMonkeyEmporer lever guns use a wide range of rounds, some common ones are .44 and 45-70 which both shoot a much larger slug then a 9mm. Some lever guns fire rifle ammo too such as 308 like you mentioned. It’s just a loading system, not a caliber
I'd say his assessments were wrong on every level in regards to "fun gameplay". He complained the skinning was done too fast so not accurate. Would it have been better if every time you butchered an animal you had to sit trough a 1-2 hour long cut scene? It would be more accurate but it would make for horrible gameplay. This guy might be an expert on survival but obviously completely oblivious to what makes good gameplay.
Good video! I do wish the experts would be given some basic info about the games they are shown..or at least some info on the way the footage is being played.
Otis from Devils Rejects is that you?
I gotta ruuuun, to keep from hidin'
a lot of the cooler stuff in rdr2 hunting is from the crafting mechanics, making bait, our main character Arthur has 2 main friends that teach him to hunt, fish, and craft, Hosea, a man in his 50s who essentially raised Arthur with their friend Dutch and was born in the mountains hunting bears, and Charles, and half African, half Indian man who manages to make Arthur look weak in comparison to the stuff he does, Hosea is much better at taking down more gameish animals that you either take to sell or just for the fun of hunting, rabbits, bears, that kinda thing. Charles excels with animals that you'd hunt for quality food like deer or bison. They also show Arthur the different ways to hunt, Hosea shows off hunting with traditional weapons, rifles, repeaters, Charles shows him how to use a bow and how to apply more usually niche weapons like knives and such. Hosea introduces Arthur to legendary animals, massive unique 1 of a kind members of a species scattered around, 1000 pound grizzlies, 9 foot tall moose, god dang 15 feet long alligators. All sorts of cool stuff.
I'm glad that he talks about skinning the jackrabbit -- I always wondered if that's really the way to skin it.
The side quest where Arthur teaches a widow up in Willard's Rest to hunt a jackrabbit and skin it by pulling it apart makes me wonder.
Of course, in the end RDR2 is a game. If it goes too deep into realism, Arthur will take awhile to skin an animal.
I miss hunting Legendary Grizzly with Hosea. :(
10:12 “That’s where a lot of predators are active.” *cuts to Micah*
I love Red dead so many great memories with friends online I wish Rockstar would make DLC even if we had to pay for it it'll be worth it.
6:04 those cores tho
That's actually one of the bests traits in all time periods: always be cautious & aware of the strangers around you while preparing for the worst. As a survivalist knows more then anyone always trust your gut/ instincts & surroundings!
When he skins animals he isnt jabbing the knife into the cavity! he's slamming his body into it to get it to move so he can more easily skin it
When it comes to Arthur doing things quickly, you gotta factor in the fact that a minute is an hour to him. Still remarkably fast, but not as impossible.
And we don’t see everything as well, unless Arthur just wears a diaper all game
With the basic needs mod you really have to make him pee and stock up on water and make your horse drink, and if you don't dress to the climate you're in you die a lot quicker. A lot! But I alsp feel that we just don't see everything and while sleeping and loading in the game he did some things first to not have to use a diaper... And use of no water is explainable he's an alcoholic and drinks coffee instead off water.
he was checking if the bison was alive not just stabbing it
When I saw Donny the video started even before I've touched the screen :D
They used the worst hunting footage for this guy really a fkn tomahawk USE YOUR BOW
Thankfully it doesn't matter on the legendary animals. But the dude playing pretty much used the wrong type of gun on everything.
@@Killicon93 Even though it doesn't matter for legendary animals I always like hunting as accurately as I know how to it makes it more fun for me tbh
@@Jakeyisdead Agreed
For some reason they always do
Yeah especially as a fan of the game. You're capable of sending way better footage, don't embarrass me in front of Donny
the expert looks like he went into the woods one day and came out 6 months later as king of the forest
This guys hair and beard is legendary just had to say that
Question for any hunters I the us dies hunting over there have the same benefits that deer hunting and pheasant and pigeon shooting has here in the UK that is that its good conservation and both keeps the numbers at an eco friendly amount and helps prevent in breeding here we shoot wild deer to keep their numbers down as we wiped all the wild wolves out in the middle ages
one thing i noticed, arthur isnt stabbing the big animals hard, hes bumping them to ensure they are dead. then he skins them
"You do have the gameplay during day and during night, and that's pretty accurate"
Truer words have never been spoken before.
Wow thats awesome that they chose you to reflect Arthur morgan in rdr2, was kinda wondering the whos and ifs, wow awesome to see they based of you
I have been learning how to do taxidermy and have hunted all of my life and this is legit.
the skinning is good enough tbh its an outlaw game after all who the hell would want to wait that long just for a single hide in a game that literally req lots of different ones for its sachel clothes and decor to camp lol
Greetings Donny. I lived and worked as a Park Ranger in South Africa for many years. I know what it`s like to shoot a charging animal Thankfully didn`t happen often. Better to read the warning signals it is telling you Once you have realised it isn`t a mock charge though you have seconds to decide. We spent ages practicing speed shooting with our rifles. I learnt a lot about different plants and what uses and medicine they provide also as well as tracking.
If I’m hunting a bison I use the rare sniper and aim for the head that’s how you get 3* pelts for most animals using the right caliber and weapon does have its ways of giving you a better pelt. Also the trinket does help
That racoon over his left shoulder seems to still be moving
Thats grizzly jon’s hat from rdr2
Those clips were awful. Who recorded them? The intern? My god. And you should provide these people with more information about the game.
When he nudges the animal he’s not stabbing it (atleast not on purpose) he’s checking if it’s definitely dead
7:30 you can see this a lot done by npcs
Background music is so loud.
I can hear him in the woods screaming for Carl
With the bear and the bison he’s not actually stabbing into its guts. He’s actually bashing it with his shoulder to position it better to start skinning. It’s just a mix of poor angles and maybe a bit of animation jank. But he is just shoving it a bit.
I love this guy I really learned a lot from him😊
Rockstar, if you are reading this comment section, put this man's model as the trapper in the next RDR game.
Donny Dust is a cool dude, he made the main characters knife from Far Cry Primal using flint and a coyote jaw bone. It’s pretty cool.
First time i see this guy is on wired channel on Twitter survivalist support
I love how Rick Grimes is talking about skinning animals here
There’s no way you getting that perfect pelt with a repeater in rdr2. Only fox pelt or coyote I believe.
Yep foxes or coyotes you use repeaters. The rest you'll have to use rifles/appropriate arrows.
Or better yet have that trinket which improves your chances in getting perfect pelts. Real handy when I was doing those tedious hunting requests.
One of my most memorable experiences was this: I rode up unexpectedly on an entire herd of bison. Immediately switched on dead eye and took out the entire herd of like 20 bison. Needless to say, could not harvest everything, so I went back to sell the things I had, came back, and angry Native Americans were like "You son of a bitch!!!!" and then started shooting me. Immediately thought "yeah, I deserved that."
This was RDR1?
@kiryu1366 It's not in the game what the guy describes.
Rick? Is that you?
CARL!
Really enjoyed this video. Donny has gained a follower and a pre order for his book “wild wisdom” coming august 15th in the UK.
can you turn the music up I could almost hear him talking
They didnt show him the dynamite arrow hunting technique, I guess Donny could learn something from that XD
A classmate of mine who is fifteen thinks he can kill a bear with his bare hands! 😂
His teddybear when he's not trying to make it pregnant maybe.
A real bear... No Rip for him😂
Yeah exacly RIP. Bro is gonna have ”Mauled by bear” on his grave! 🤣
Sounds just like Marston to
So I've noticed with any other hunting game nothing compared to the level of skinning like RDR2. Some day we'll get a game with more realistic skinning and everything else.
this is so interesting I wonder who is the first one to figure this stuff out
probably trial and error over time/generations
Real ones have known Donny for years
This is literally red dead 2 wolf man but if he achieved his dreams
During that time almost all bison were killed on horseback
Does he also use a Springfield rifle?
I think that raccoon up in the right corner is still alive, buddy
Props to the wild wisdom guide guy 💯🙏😎
That’s Rick Grimes
Bro giving me Otis Driftwood Vibes
Yo he looks like Rick Grimes from Walking dead
I love watching gamology but for the love of god please get better footage that accurately represents the systems in games
He mentions the "fast skinning" well yeah, it's a game and I've probably skinned 300 animals, imagine if it was more accurate to life lol
W vid, the vids of him skinning and stuff was pretty cool
Gamology, why don't you invite Grndpagaming to your channel?
Waiting for professional Martial artists to play shadow fight
Wish he would’ve seen Arthur pick up a deer and toss it on his shoulder 😂😂😂
Have someone look in to the exotic animals in red dead
this dude is literally the trapper from the game
The video I did not know I needed
Isn’t hunting illegal? The guy keeps talking about how many hides he’s collected. Just curious tho.
there’s certain times of the year certain animals are legal to hunt
This guy should be picking apart a game like The Forest. Get someone like Tuco the Ratt to review RDR
Bro, why’s the raccoon hanging behind you moving so much 😂
I imagine it's been commented a lot but I think if you stand your ground the bear does bluff charge you.
I did that up in the Grizzlies. The huge bear growling while its fur matted with blood (it was devouring a deer) and Arthur just stands there smoking a cigar.
they brought the trapper on camera
Josh Barnett is enjoying his MMA retirement.
0:20 sry mate, but you are based upon arthur morgan
Love this game
Don’t tell Charles Donny’s hunted bison
You gotta do far cry primal next time, its the perfect simulation of real life survival
Always bring a little bit of whisky
Are you this isnt older verison of rick grimes
Without the beard and hair he looks like rick
RDR2❤
Rick Grimes season 30
We have here an Skinner survivor 😮
We need bear grylls in one of the expert react episode
What would the subject be?
How to fool millions with a shitty TV show?
@@jaredjackson2013 perhaps
Rien a voir avec la video mais j ai trouvé le sosie de ce type 😂 il s apelle froggy il fait des vidéos sur dokkan battle ,il lui ressemble trop 🤣🤣
He literally looks like Rick Grimes
I don’t see it.
Not true the idea for Arthur Morgan, as a character was already thought of during RDR1
He was only a concept
Josiah?