Shop Made Quick Change Toolpost
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2017
- I made a quick change toolpost for the Schaublin 102. It is a scaled down design of Metal Lathe Accessories' MLA-23 toolpost with some other changes. It is a great size for 8" and smaller lathes, including the mini lathe. Move over 0XA import!
This build also features the shaper cutting dovetails. If you don't have a shaper don't worry - you can use a dovetail cutter. I recommend Randy Richard's: • How To Make an Insert ...
If you would like drawings send me an email and we will work something out.
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Very good video, showing every aspect of the build. Ive used the same ball turner attachment for years. Even makes the job easier. Thanks
Ahh, The pleasure of watching extreme craftsmanship combined with art. Thank you
Great job. I like that design, the tapered wedge to expand the dovetail. You can rotate it 360 degrees as well brilliant.
I'm not a machinist, but I definitely can appreciate the amount of work that went into this project and the video. Nicely done
Thanks Phil!
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Nice Richard. I built one similar to yours about 2 years ago and what an improvement much nicer to work with. I made the Nut from a scrape of aluminum I had laying around it worked out fine. I did however make my handle straight but into a whole I drilled on the drill press in a vice with an adjustable angle. The angle is a little steeper than that of the tool lock lever. This is I think the best improvement I've made to the lathe because every time I use the lathe I use it! Thank you!
Thanks for your support and comments!
I bought the plans last month. Watching your work with them close to hand is perfect. Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for watching! It is a really nice design - wish I could take credit for it!
Great idea and very nicely machined. I'm in the process of making one for my emomat 7 lathe/mill. But I'm using my existing tool holders.
Loved your ball turning attachment!
As a newbie to your channel on catch-up... after hearing your talk of "I *NEED* a toolpost" and "spares for this are imposible to find and cost a fortune"... I've been expecting this one.
Really enjoying your channel. Hope to see plenty more.
Beautiful piece of work. Thanks for sharing.
Mr, that is some impressive videowork and machining! And you use the shaper, so I had to thumb up anyway ;)
Thanks Stefan. When I've impressed the German I know I've done something right :). You need to do more shaper stuff. I have a lot I need to learn!
thecogwheel very nice work. And it came out looking so beautiful!! Wondering. If I was to say over shoot on the threads of the draw nut. And the handle tightens up in the wrong place. Can I just add a machined spacer in between the top nut/handle nut and the cone so it tightens up sooner? I’m building my version of this right now. Thanks
Sehr gut.
Top notch machine work and video editing...impressive ~ Richard
Great job. Thanks for sharing. I like your tools and equipments , nice stuff.
Thanks Mohammad!
Beeindruckende Arbeit, beeindruckendes Werkzeug und beeindruckende Videos! PERFEKT
Very nice design and mill work. The polished ball shapes a pleasing to the hand and eye!
You put so much work into the video. It is really great.
The toolpost is even better!
Thanks John!
WHAT !! UTTER !! CRAP !! THAT !! IS !!!
Excellent video and very informative, lots of tips for people who are new to machining, nice to see the shaper in action, Regards Doc Cox.
Thanks!
This is the first of your videos I've seen. WOW! Production quality is top notch, information given is top notch, details and camera shots are all top notch. Well done sir. I have seen many different content creators videos and yours are definitely up there!
the only thing i would change is volume levels. having to struggle to hear him talk only to get blasted by the baseline was a little unnerving.
Nice work! Enjoyed seeing the various use of 123 and v-blocks for your layout.
Thanks!
You are skilled. Great work! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Very cool and great video,,,very professionally done, liked how you made the ball on the end of the handle.
USELESS !! BALL !! END !!
Very excellent video. I really enjoyed it. Great machining lesson. I have a Schaublin 102 and use an Aloris AXA QCTP.
Thanks Lawrence. Appreciate it.
Awesome work!!
That came out wonderfully! It's a very clever design. Well produced video!
Thanks! I've used it now for about a week and I like it even more. Going to be making up a batch of holders over the next few weeks.
Perfect work, perfect video. You show the finished work at the beginning of the video, thats very importend, so I know what you'r doing. I'm missing this point in almost all other videos!
Thanks
Ce montage est absolument génial !!!!
Bravo monsieur !
This montage is absolutely great !!!!
Well done sir!
Thanks Georges!
WOW! I bet the video editing took as long as the build. Amazing work.
Great work on the tool post, and the video! :)
Thanks Max! Lots of time into editing this one. And using the shaper :). You know what they say about shapers ....
Good work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Excelente trabalho! Muito prático e rápido para troca de ferramentas!👏👏👏🙂👍
You are a very patient person to turn the balls on the end of your handles by hand. Looks awesome
PRETTY !! DARN !! STUPID !!! NO !! USE !! WHATSOEVER!! THAT !! DUMB !! IDEA !!!
Nice video!
Interesting, I made a similar style tool post a year ago, I thought I had invented something new! Apparently not
PS enjoying your podcast :)
I have the same lathe 2227 good work ,thanks you have inspired me to make one for the 2227 .
Loved the end
I very much enjoyed this video! I'll be building something similar soon.
Subscribed. It's good to see someone using hhs and not just carbide. Don't get me wrong I use carbide but I really like taking the time to grind my own tools bits and getting that prefect chip, because hay this is what I do for fun...I could never make any money because i take to long lol
Thanks Dave. I really prefer HSS for the home shop. I use carbide as well, but I find that insert based carbide is a bit of a black hole with all the different geometries. That and the price can add up quickly. I use the money I save for buying material and other shop things. HSS is still very productive as well.
Very very very accurate and precise so perfect
There are two systems of QCTPs the ones that push the holder away from the main body and second the ones that hold him towards the main body to clamp him like Multifix and all the pro' s ones...the second ones have the best repeatability...like yours.. If you think about it at the first way turning forces work all on the one stud behind the holder he can be as strong as he wants on the second way the forces divide on the whole main body and that's where the good rigidity comes from. I always look first when i see a QTPC which system he has and then i know how good his repeatability will be..
There are also good ones with dovetails...and that's one of the best i ever saw... very good work dude...👍👍👍
Nice design Justin. I see that 4 jaw getting some camera time !
bellissimo lavoro, good job
I really enjoy your "cartesian coordinate" ball-turning attachement. ;D
Thank you. Very high tech :)
That was nice to watch! Thanks.
thanks! It was fun to do.
I like the simplicity of that design. Not sure I'd be able to accomplish that with the tools at hand (certainly not as nice as that one lol) but I'm definitely willing to tackle it 😊
It's not that hard. Seriously. Most folks don't have a shaper but a dovetail cutter works (and probably is quicker because you know what they say about shapers ... you can make anything but money).
Amazing work ... thanks for share!
Nicely done! 🤙
Great video, impressive.
Top notch work in metal and video. Thanks for making and posting. Cheers!
Thanks for stopping by!
WITH !! ALL !! THAT !! HIGH !! END !! JUNK !! YOU COULD !! HAVE !! GONE !! AND !! BOUGHT !! TEN !! PLUS !!! Q.C !! POSTS !!!! AND ! HAD !! STILL !! HAD !! MISSERABLE !!! BRASS ;! IN !! YOUR !! POCKET !!!!
A work of art.
Wow ! Fabulous work. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!!!!
Really good effort!
Very nice work. Machining & camera. Subscribed
This follows my previous comment.
One way to detect conformity at the cone interface is by a blue ink test. Same ink we use in metal scraping. You will be the judge how much % contact area meets your satisfaction.
If we desired to keep the same concept design and time invested in making it, consider this.
Options:
1. Replace the inverted solid cone by a ER collet that fits the post bolt and the hollow cone. This way the flexibility in the collet can play a conformance role to better the conformity for stronger holding force.
2. Replace the inverted cone by a matching size metal ball. Ball with a hollow axle and without the northern hemisphere. So the half sphere is pinching against and expanding the hollow cone.
3. Replace the steel solid cone by an equal sized cone made of semi-fluid/solid material to catch up with the expansion of the hollow cone. Material can range from high hardness tire rubber trough lead and up to soft aluminum or soft copper (and not brass).
Caveat? down this path we may experience difficulty in releasing the tool holder. That is caused by cone surface friction, because of the soft material had dug into the micro striations on the hollowed cone. That can be entertained by grinding and followed by lapping.
4. Is further improvement on 1 thru 3 above. Yo make a horizontal mirror copy of the upper half cone system to the lower half.
Hope this helps.
Wow, and to think I was gonna buy a set. I may just give this a shot.
Wow ! I'm impressed with everything here. You put a lot of thought, work & time into the video presentation as well as the machining . Everything comes across beautifully. Thank you & I'm hoping you will do more. BTW, I'm finding a lot of use for the digital levels (inclinometers ?)
Thanks Len. Really appreciate it. It was a fun build. More stuff is coming. Yes those digital levels are handy things. I keep forgetting about it sitting in my toolbox.
Good work mate!
Thank you!
Very nice idea. Now I will build my own. I don't need drawings because I have a CAD program. I will however add another cone. Thanks for the idea. These things are very expensive in my country (South Africa) - even the imported Chinese junk. I don't have a milling machine, but I do have a lathe. I converted it to do milling as well, and drilling, besides drilling thru the center of a bar!
Awesome Video...very informative...thanks
this is a good alternative to the lantern tool post & modern alternative . Replacement one can make on the lathe
Bella idea,grande.
Отличная работа!
Good job, If I ever built one like so, I would add a spring under the cone.
It works great without it!
awesome video great work there... i love it.
thanks Steven!
Cool. I have one tip: spin those tool clamping setscrews in a pipe in the chuck, face them off and then file the end to as flat as you can by hand. The filed surface is superior to turned or rough in preserving the surface of your tools; it only leaves surface marks on aluminum and doesn't wipe off the finish on black tools. The screws clamp quicker because the flat surface isn't springy.
My other suggestion would be to add a spring under the brass cone so help keep it from binding inside the toolpost.
Thanks - good tip! Regarding the spring I've never had the toolpost bind yet so it seems that one isn't required.
Cool video man
very nice work.
Thanks for watching.
I have been looking for a smaller QCTP for my 7x10 mini lathe. You design is slick with the cone in the center to expand the dovetail. Thanks for the video.
Thanks! I think it would be great for a mini lathe!
thecogwheel I would like drawings if you have them.
My email address is pete_mclaughlin_93555@yahoo.com
Thanks
Pete
THE Q.C POST !! COSTS !! MORE !! THAN !! THE !! LATHE !!! HOW !! WONDERFUL !! THAT !! IS !!
I enjoyed your presentation very much! I have also read many comments before I choose to ad a few things to the discussion and will hope I do not offend others.
1 The music I was not bothered by as I was intent on learning your method of obtaining the objective!
2 The use of the Shaper for the dovetails is for a home workshop, apart from being relaxing if I remember correctly is also a huge amount cheaper than buying a Dovetail Cutter even with a Mill. To add to this the cutter as shown can be sharpened in the home workshop.
3 The last thought I have is to do with the question of repeatability, that is to with tool post position. With your setup I think it may be possible to set up a stop of some form in the tee slots. Perhaps also include some form of dowel for standard tool angles.
Okay my thoughts are done and welcome better ideas as I am here to learn. Cheers from John, Australia.
Sweet!
Still using it. Working great.
Very cool and great video!!! From Russia with Love!!!
I have the same lathe b2227 good work .
Отличная работа! Вопрос сжатия ластохвоста под нагрузкой остается открытым. По статистике ютуба новую резцедержку точат обычно те, кто купил себе кассетную резцедержку с отжимным поршнем, хотя всей этой истории можно было бы избежать, доплатив всего 10% и взяв резцедержку с клином ;)
Good work
Thank you!
I see many many many hours of editing and one very nice toolpost :)
ps/ Whats that green lathe called? I think I have the same machine. Mine is called hbm bb25-3
Thank you. It is a B2227L from Busy Bee Tools (Canada). I've seen it in various paint colours, including one with a longer bed (Australia I think).
I´ve googled the bussy bee and it seems to be a shorter version of my lathe. I suspect they both come from the same factory in China.
Probably. It is an unique design. Overall I like it, but there are a few minor things that are terrible. It is a very capable machine. Around here the price of them have at least doubled over the last 3 - 4 years.
I had to view this silent as the "musick" drowns out your voice over. Excellent video quality and detail. I would like to build one.
Thanks Scott. "Musick" can be tricky subject. What is good for some isn't others. I thought about leaving it with no soundtrack but that doesn't work either. That and you can't just put any music - you need permission and copyright and all that.
Music's just fine...
THAT !! DOPES !! GOT !! TONNES !! OF !! JUNK !! STEEL !! LYING !! AROUND !! EVERYWHERE !!! THATS !! WHY!! HE !! COULD !! MAKE !! ONE !! FOR !! IDIOTS !! LIKE !! YOU !! TO !! SHOW !!!! ON !! CRAPPY !! YOU !!! TUBE !!!
Beautiful work. You must have practiced those ball plunges not to go too deep, but then they could be accent rings. Peter
Thanks Peter. Really appreciate it!
Excellent presentation, enjoy every second of it.
Did we notice the hollow and solid cones only match each other seamlessly when both are not pinched against one another? Any pinching force induce a displacement can cause distortion in the hollow cone. All the pinching stress will shift towards the (inverted) base of each cone, result in localized expanding force and not spread over the cone body. Do you agree?
thanks cogwheel great vid
Thanks!
show seu trabalho, inscrito!
I recommend you use a guard to prevent chips flying into your lathe motor. Its a pain in the ass when that happens
Pretty much guaranteed it's a TEFC motor and a chip hitting the cooling fan is like me swatting at a fly with my hand.
Love your ball making tool. If anyone wants to make one of those, Clickspring shows the full process!
bravo beau travail
Absolute masterpiece! Cutting that slot on a band saw must have took some balls, especially after all the hours of work with the shaper. Speaking of balls, is there any way you can show us step by step on your manual ball turning technique? Or do you have a video on that?
Very nice can we see the drawings more often.
Hey man cool project I may have to move one of those for my old south bend
Thanks Chris! I can't recommend the project enough. A great learning experience!
thecogwheel I just about have my b&s horizontal ready to run . You might be interested in my channel. I'm into old flat belt machines.
Very nicely done, makes my production quality look like crap!
ATB, Robin
It's not perfect (nothing is - your measuring tools just don't have the precision :) ). I have a long way to go to even approach your skill. But the compliment is appreciated!
I was referring to the video production quality :)
LOL it makes sense now - had manufacturing engineer on the brain and when I read production ..... I thought it was an exceptionally gracious comment ... You work to at least one, more likely 2, orders of magnitude more precise than I do.
Отличная резцедержка!!! Класс!!!
Снизу конуса не хватает.
thecogwheel: Thanks for your elegantly simple but sturdy design. If there was a way to make this design angular repeatable it would be as useful as Aloris, less expensive to build and more suitable for smaller lathes.
Thanks! There is room in the base for a locking pin or you could graduate the base with angular divisions. I was going to do this but the lack of repeatability doesn't really factor into the work I do.
Nice to know there's a way to do this. Repeatability is essential to me for multiple operations on same part such as turning, knurling, threading and parting off without changing angular position.
Мне понравилось спокойно без спешки всё подробно и понятно и мастерская хорошая удачи коллега
Just a suggestion, but on a small setup like that if you make your toolholders a bit longer you wouldn't have so much "stick out" on your cutting tools. Better to have more toolholder, it's more rigid than that little piece of HSS sticking out. Looking at your threading tool especially, you only need 1-2cm at most, cutting tools the same.
WOW! That’s such a simple design but can do some serious cuts!!!! I always looked at those QCTP’s and thought there might be a simpler way to design them, and this is a super awesome idea! You mention it belongs to another engineer and you just made some improvements to it, right? Wish I could scale that down to a Sherline lathe but not sure it would be able to cut it that nice. That shaper can be slow but sure it is a nice machine!!!! Could you tell us the total time it took you to make it? And a guesstimate on how long it would shorten the time by using a mill VS the shaper ? Thank you for sharing this project!
Subscribed, good video
Good fob!!! What is the angle of the inner cone? Tanks
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I made my own tool post for my antique sheldon and some holders but I copied the aloris I like this one better are there any prints available also like your shaper what brand is it I had a Cincinnati about the same size and loved it nice work I'm a retired machinist now but still play in my garage with my old Bridgeport and my old sheldon lathe and a few others yes 12L14 is like butter use it ever chance I get it has the same tensile strength as 1018 just don't weld good thanks great work
Nice job. Subbed.
Thanks Bill. It was a rewarding project.
7:35 what is that bit of equipment you are using on the right there / where's it from? Looks handy dandy. Expensive? Voted up and subbed, great vid
This is the best thing I've seen on TH-cam!!! Please send me the drawing. I would very much like to use the metric system. I have a mini taig machine. Your link sends you to a website that offers to buy an air ticket and take a loan:)
I understand how the slit expands with the downward pressure of the cone, but what keeps the tool post from rotating?
might try 17-4 ss steel you can heat treat at home oven 450...500° for about 3 hrs and cool...ahh good winter project
Nice
FYI: The website domain for statecollegecentral.com has expired...
I don't have a shaper what size dove tail cutter would you use? Great video by the way.
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