@@SwordQuake2it would never end in the sense that letting people board late sets a precedent that you can get away with being late on future flights, and more and more people are going to cut it close. Airlines rely on most passengers arriving at the boarding time to stay on schedule. Not having a penalty for being late simply encourages that behavior
My daughter and I were flying to Boston for a quick-turn-less-than-36-hour trip, and because I thought we could park in the garage at the terminal I didn’t make a Plan B for parking and that, along with the slowest security day ever at Hartsfield had us in a dead sprint to our gate, which of course was all the way at the end of the concourse. They had already shut the doors and we stood there catching our breath as the plane pushed back. We got on standby for the next flight (90 minutes later) and we were the last two on board. We didn’t get to sit together but we made it on. Lessons learned. That was the first and hopefully last time I ever miss a flight.
Thanks for sharing and glad it worked well in the end for you. If I may ask, did you end up paying a penalty for being late and for the rebooking? Or the airline put you on the next flight free of charge?
@@Mostafaa747 Delta put us standby for the next flight, with the understanding that if we couldn’t get on then we could standby the flight after that, then we’d have to rebook and pay the difference in fare. Fortunately we got on the first standby, and that was at no additional charge. Thank you, Delta.
I prefer to take the train to the airport. Less stressful than taking a wrong turn or being stuck in traffic, and if there are delays you can take a taxi as a backup (though I've never had to).
This week, I'm working in Eastern Europe, and where i am working is 10km from the airport. My home in the UK is just 6 miles from the airport. There are only 2 flights a week between the two airports. I'm not going to be late for my flight!
Can't say I've ever been that late for a flight...but this is NOT because am a "perfect passenger"...it's because I find the entire process of getting to an airport and boarding a flight to be very stressful, and the only way I've found to handle the stress is to get to the airport very early so I can get baggage checks and security out the way so that I can then sit calmly in the waiting area listening to music and/or reading a book until boarding starts....I envy seasoned travelers who calmly navigate airports and never get stressed!
I get there about 1hr - 40mins before the flight leaves. Which most people feel like it’s rushing but I’m relaxed. I check my bags which shouldn’t take long. I have TSA precheck and Clear so I pass TSA in less than 5 minutes. Then I’m at my gate just in time to not wait long.
All well and good, but the biggest risk of missing a flight is not being able to get to an airport because of rail or road problems. I allow many hours, but one time a lorry had overturned on the motorway leading to the airport. There were massive delays. I had to run like crazy once I arrived and only just made it. Others weren't so lucky.
I live near a huge but very efficient airport where you can go from drop off to boarding a plane in about 10 minutes some times. The relief in efficiency is countered by being screamed at by TSA for not understanding their inconsistent instructions on shoes or devices in bags.
Yeah I've missed a connection. My first flight got delayed and I missed my connecting flight. You just talk to them about your situation and they're pretty nice about it. They'll book you on the next flight.
It used to be that way, nowadays it seems airlines are doing what land transport has done for the last 20 years as well, provide "best effort" single point to point travel, where you are responsible if they get deleyed. Sure, you might get your ticket for the delayed trip refunded, but nothing more.
Glad I've never actually missed a flight so far, but came to close to it in 2022 when a) my train connections to the airport were heavily affected by construction works and b) the security employee suddenly took it very meticulously with checking the double-sewed pockets of my jeans. Had to undress in a separé and my gate was at the end of the concourse. Already saw myself waving after my flight but made it in the end.
One factor that's often forgotten is luggage transfer. If you're on a delayed flight that causes you to have to run to make your connecting flight, don't expect your luggage to make it onto your connecting flight.
I was late few minutes and the plane was not pushed back yet. Without checked luggage, the captain allowed the crew to open the door and let me in. Really gratelful.
My most recent flight I boarded a plane at SFO, only to realize that I left the food I purchased at the gate. The Flight Attendant was kind and understanding and let me go back to the gate to get it, but the Gate Agent was visibly annoyed and irritated at my request since he already had closed the doors. In the moment I didn't understand what the big deal was, but in hindsight, I'm grateful he let me get my breakfast bowl instead of saying "tough luck" and abandoning my food for some measly snack onboard the flight.
@@TheLikeys Yeahhh I felt really awkward walking up to the front of the plane and dipping out for a minute, but I paid almost $20 for the food and was starving 😂
Through a combination of heavy traffic, delays returning a rental car, extremely long security lines in Orlando, and a long way to the gate, I came within one minute of missing my flight. When I got there the door was open and I asked the attendant if I could board. She said yes and that I was the last passenger they were waiting for. I got down to the end of the ramp just as the final passengers were about to step onto the plane. If I had been one minute later I probably would have missed the flight. I breathed a sigh of relief when I sat down in my seat.
I was on my way back home and just landed after a 12h leg, and waiting at the gate for my last 2h stretch, when I run into a friend who also was flying the same route. Both tired after previous long flights, we started talking about our trips. We totally lost time and awareness, missing both gate closing announcements as well as personal calls. The seating we had where shared across several gates, so seats around us where never empty. When we realised that we where late, we started running towards the gate, only to see the green light change to red. We where sooo close to making it, but they did not let us board. They had already unloaded our baggage they said.
I once lost a flight, I could still see the queue at the other side of the door in the terminal so they could have actually let me in as people were still boarding, but they were dealing with a Karen that was overbooked and kept insulting everybody, including me, because "she couldn't take my seat because I already passed security before the flight closed". I also had the completely opposite experience, they knew that I was already in the airport and when I arrived to the gate with no hope because there were nobody around except the ground crew and the screen said "CLOSED", I asked them if I had lost my flight and they smiled back and said, "no, don't worry, we were waiting for you". They asked me to wait because I had to be escorted to the plane as the finger was apparently already configured in an insecure way that could have allowed me to go into areas not allowed for me or something like that.
In general being late is a major pet peeve of mine. If I can be on-time, you can be on-time. I do understand unforeseen circumstances, but in general in life, be on time all the time! Thats why im always 2 hrs minimum before my flight and i always choose flights that are not during peak times where and when possible. Overnight flights from South Africa tend to have early morning connections in Europe and America which is very busy, but we always book to have at least a 4 hr layover. Thank heavens i dont travel for work anymore, but even then flights in SA were usually very much on time and easy to plan for. In Europe, Asia and America i think this gets more tricky.
Missed a flight once because my brother was late picking me up for the airport. I normally was picked up by work, but he offered to pick me up. I dropped my bro and relied on work transport and was never late again. I have missed some connecting flights due to mechanical issues on an flight, not fun. On one such instance there were several passengers whose flights were also cancelled leading to a lot of passengers who needed to connect to the same destination from the same airport, with limited but somehow fully booked onward flights. It was a nightmare trying to find a flight. I arrived in the early morning around 6 am at the last connecting airport and only found a seat on the last flight at 8 pm!
One time I had a flight connection taking me home that was booked by my work, but on that day I was intending to fly somewhere else. The connection was rather short, and when I walked up to the gate to let them know I would not be boarding, they were just about ready to close it and told me I could still get on. The agent thanked me for informing them and closed the gate immediately.
Many years ago i was on a late flight and arrived at the connection check-in just as the gates closed. I said that my flight was delayed and fortunately the airline reopened the gate. While checking me in, another 20 passengers arrived from my previous flight and since the gate had re-opened they were all checked in for the flight. Just as well I was a very fast walker and very polite.
3:16 Better not to rest lorals on that and just arrive at the airport 2 hours before the flight's departure to eliminate the possibility of being late in the first place.
The plane runs for those that wait. It doesn't wait for those that run. My last flight kept the gate open as the Captain was late and there was no one else to fly it.
I was once let on board 3 minutes after gate closing with IndiGo, an airline obsessed with its on-time performance and who's gates close 25 minutes before departure. The gate agent called me and I told him I was a minute away and I am also a staff member of IndiGo, so he very luckily let me on board. I needed to catch this flight as I was supposed to go to work straight after.
I think people think airlines are like busses or trains where you can go in very last minute. But as always, if you miss your flight cuz of connecting problem, please be nice to the gate agent as they may be able to assist you in getting to another flight.
I had an experience with missing a flight this year. During summer this year, my SWISS flight from Manchester to Zurich was delayed due to a fault with the aircraft part. As a result, I've missed my connecting flight to Hong Kong. After arriving at Zurich, I stayed in the hotel for a night, and then took a SWISS flight to Hong Kong the next day.
@@JingJao yea especially if you’re at the airlines hub, or both your flights are with the same airline. it’s easy for them to just put you in a hotel till the next flight, with the rates they’d pay for a night it’s worth it to save the reputation loss
That’s kinda the whole point of booking a connecting flight all the way through on 1 airline. They’re responsible for getting you there, it’s why you should avoid mix & matching connections between different airlines that aren’t codeshares
Some decades ago (1970s) I flew on business regularly. One evening I was delayed by a slow rental car return at a small Southern airport and ended up getting to the to the gate as the aircraft was pushing back. I commented "Damn, I wont be able to tuck in my kids tonight" to the agent at the gate and he got on his hand-held radio and asked them to return, which took a few minutes. I boarded to a round of applause and grabbed my seat. After the obligatory safety presentation the Purser came down to my seat and asked if I would like to say anything. I asked her if I could stand and express my thanks and apology to everyone for delaying them which was granted to another round of applause. I have an affection to this day for Delta Airlines. Times have surely changed for the worse.
I do remember just missing a train at Newport last Saturday, the train was still there but "train doors will be locked shut up to 40 seconds prior to departure" and I couldn't get to the train doors in time and had to wait about *TEN* minutes for the next one.
I was travelling with a group of ~25 people and we barely missed our connecting flight due to the first one being delayed. We had to stay in the airport for nine hours and luckily we were all put on the same flight, a different one later that day.
There's been occasions where I've arrived at the gate, stood there for minutes and watched my plane pushes back without me. Those are the worst. I've also been in situations where the aircraft left early, so it's completely gone before I even arrive there. Nowadays I prefer to go to the airport early, especially when I have lounge access so I can relax before the flight.
I had a missed flight this summer, I got the notifications that it had been delayed 45 minutes due to mechanical issues so I arrived 45 minutes later than I originally planned. I was having trouble checking in on the app and then when I got to the airport I found that there was no kiosk or front desk agents (pre-security) to help me do the check in. They had already gone off duty as if the flight hadn't been delayed. I rebooked for a few days later and I already had a few more days off work anyway. I got to visit more with family in a cool different place. When I checked in on the app for that flight it was fine. Anyway it worked out great and I guess I was super lucky to get the deals I did on the last minute flight hotel and car. I could have flown out same or next day for $700, instead I flew out 3 days later and the new flight, hotel, and car were about $650 total. Not a terrible price for the lesson. In future I'll always check in on the app 24 hours ahead. If there's an error I'll go to the airport right away, a day ahead, to fix it in-person for tomorrow's flight.
@TreeStump-and-CheeseKetchupIT I have another good one. I purchased a trip on two different airlines, one domestic, one international. The idea was to fly from home to IAD on AA, then fly to Europe on TAP. The AA flight ended up arriving in DCA late, and by the time I collected my bag, the TAP check-in was closed. TSA allowed me to take my suitcase to the gate, but I had to discard all the prohibited items, like lotion, pocket knife, etc, so I was able to check in my suitcase at the gate and I made the flight. 🤣
I was once on a very short connection in FRA. Ran for my life only to find the jetbridge doors closed at my gate with no gate agent. The A340 was still at the gate. I simply pushed the doors and walked ran the jetbridge only to find the gate agent was at the aircraft door telling them that I hadn't made it and to unload my bags. She looked at me, confused, and said "oh! you are here?" after which the crew at the door welcomed me and immediately went to the PA system to announce "boarding complete". Was very stressful but felt like quite a triumph to make it.
I witnessed someone ELSE go through that at MDW once. I was nonrev, flying standby anyway, flight was full, no big deal. Picked up a USA Today newspaper and hear the gate agent paging a missing passenger, by name. Twice. Finally, too late, they closed the flight, plane is still sitting there, guy comes casually strolling up, ready to go. Agent explains no. Entire, predictable back-and-forth ensues, which I eavesdrop on. In exasperation he yells, "But my watch says I have two more minutes!" to which the calm, cool as a cucumber agent deadpanned, "Unfortunately neither you nor your watch were here when you needed to be.". And I just BURST OUT laughing behind the paper. He slinked away.
As someone that be held up too many times by very late people ranting with check-in thinking they were in some way "special". It was great to hear a little while back the EasyJet had changed their computer systems, so that if you were not there 30 minutes before the flight, the flight was not on the check in system. So no special cases, no I'm special, my aunt just died. There was zero chance that anyone could pull strings or make an exception. Brilliant
It didn't happen to me, but I did witness one guy who was only a few minutes late for check-in (so long before boarding). The airport was small, he didn't have checked luggage, security was quick to go through and there was no duty free trap to the gates (they were just behind passport control and security). But there was nothing they could do for him. They told him he missed his flight, even though the plane was taking off 40 minutes later, and boarding wouldn't start until about 10 minutes before departure (yeah, they like to stress us like that)
Once I ran across the full length of DEN to catch a flight after a weather delay. Go figure, my next flight finished boarding early and assumed I wasn't going to make it. When the gate agent came back in from outside and saw me, she said, "RUN!", and we ran outside down the steps and waved down the plane just as it was pushing back. They opened the door for me and let me on real quick, thankfully. I'm sure this wouldn't have worked out if it weren't a little regional jet.
Show up at the airport 3 hours or more. Layovers plan them 3 hours or more. Especially when clearing immigration and customs, should be 4 hours.Get global Entry or prefill ArriveCan’s customs declaration. Bring time. Be timely at the gate. Be friendly.
That's too much time! Imagine going to Ottawa or Edmonton 4 hours early, they're just too tiny. But maybe a good idea to give that kind of time if you've never been to a certain airport as a departure before... Or are new to flying, or scatterbrained, or a slow walker, or bad at navigation, or misbehave during the screenings, or recently handled ammunition or fertilizer, etc.
I've never missed a flight. But the last time I flew, the Ryanair flight was delayed. Had it not been, I might have missed boarding. You see, I waited at the departure gate given on the main departures display on entering the terminal. After the original flight due time (I had headphones on listening to music, oblivious to announcements) I noticed the screen at my departure gate still said Brussels. So I checked the departures screen to see that my new departure gate was downstairs. Thankfully I had an hour to make the ten minute walk. I also had a connection flight cancelled in the past. I came off a flight in Heathrow and changed terminals to get my connecting flight back to Dublin. But when I got to the other terminal my flight had been cancelled. Thankfully there was one last flight to Dublin that was far from full so it was easy to get my boarding pass changed. I remember I had not just the window seat, but the 3 seats on the left of that row all to myself so it worked out well and was a very comfortable flight.
Last fall on a delta trip from paris i got to the gate when the door was closed, jet bridge pulled back and pushback was ready to start. They undid all that and i was able to board. Bags were loaded also. Maybe my status got me lucky.
If you don't get to board a flight and you have checked in your luggage the luggage handlers have to find your luggage and remove it. Usually it's easier to just let you in than to spend the time to search the entire luggage hold especially if you are just in time. This applies more if your airport is a security at gate airport.
@Moonstone-Redux according to the app my bag was loaded and unloaded then loaded again. The pilot announced they need to do extra paper work before pushback.
Wait. If push back was already started, you're saying they pulled the plane back to the gate and reextended the jet bridge? Just for you? I find that hard to believe.
I almost learned the hard way. Was relaxing in the business class lounge, sipping a glass of wine and scrolling through instagram. I just about got to the gate on time! Thankfully there was a few other people in the same situation and we were delayed. Had it not been delayed, I’d have watched my plane leave without me!
I have personally experienced this but the outcome was different - boarded the flight and realised I left my iPad at the lounge - the air crew permitted me to retrieve the device. Upon my return the gates were closed with my luggage still on the flight. It is true this is often a one way operation, and no on airside could physically open the gate and they had to call ground security to reopen the doors
I had a good experience on missing a flight in Russia. It was 2014 and I lost track of time and the gate was closed. When I asked about my luggage the girl called someone and then told me they stopped the plane from moving and they will escort me through a backdoor and speedcar to the plane and they brought the stairs for my sake. I admire Russians for being flexible and their abillity to bending the rules.
Yes..I was booked for a flight from Schipol Airport to Delhi..I over slept..My boarding time was 0830 am...I made it to the Boarding gate by 0820 am...Initially I was refused.as they told me the Aerobridge was being removed..after some pleading ...they Staff exchanged messages by Walkie talkie...and I was thrilled they got me boarded too..Ofcourse I got a big welcome clap upon entry... However I must thank KLM...This was 2015...I always loved travelling KLM...Their fleet..crew..lounges.. bookings and services are world class...I be retired since then...
Same thing happened when I missed my first for the first time on Air France from Paris back to Birmingham back in 2022 because I got lost at the Airport.
I actually missed 1 flight this year (and it was close to becoming 2 missed flights). During August I was flying with Aegean from Rhodes to Thessaloniki via Athens with my aunt and the flight was delayed because it failed on the pre boarding check in Athens and we barely made it to our connecting flight wheh we arrived (I had just enough time to head the airport toilets and eat a sandwich before boarding). However my return flight got delayed to the point I missed my connecting fligh, once again due to high traffic in Athens. It wasn't just me who was unlucky, as there were other passengers on that flight that would miss their connecting flights.After arriving in Athens we stayed at a hotel close to the airport, however I only got to sleep for an hour before heading back as I was rebooked to the next flight which left first thing in the morning (around 4 or 5 am). By the time I finally got home it was 6am and the sun was rising
Once I was held on the plane for almost an hour after landing at Munich airport, due to not better specified “technical issues”, and then - after running through Transfers - I reached the gate to the connecting flight seconds after it closed. Gate agents asked the captain to reopen the doors for me, but the captain refused. Lufthansa paid me a hotel room and eventually reimbursed my ticket.
It hasn't happened yet. I always endeavor to be at/near the gate before the Boarding even starts. I usually arrive to airport quite early as I never what to have to run like a madman, especially through an airport.
I've missed a flight, entirely my own fault. I arrived at the airport later than I should have done, last minute remembered that I did not have a present for my cousin, my name was called out whilst I was in duty free, result, gate closed whilst I was yards away! Painful!
Have to correct you on the fuel: fuel uplift is calculated based on preliminary information, such as booking figures or "checkin closed" figures. Not all airlines permit fueling with passengers on board (and those who do must have and adhere to safety routines), so all that typically happens when boarding is closed, as far as fuel is concerned, is verifying fuel on board against final numbers. Regarding reopening boarding: as you say, it can be done. Whether it will be done depends on factors such as airline rules, time available, progress in finalising documentation (wheight and balance sheet, +++), your behaviour, and why you were late to the gate in the first place. If you're just tardy and behave like an a**, expect to have the book thrown at you. If we think you have a good reason and that we are able to accommodate you without causing additional delays, we're often happy to help. The most memorable moment I remember of reopening boarding was for two passengers from a delayed inbound flight. We later calculated that they had covered slightly over 1km from gate to gate in less than 5 minutes. 😎
That's untrue! I had a door reopened for me in Europe. I got there early but the airport was one that did not make announcements. I enquired why I hadn't been hearing my gate to discover it had closed. Luckily there was evidence I had checked I very early (without hold luggage) so they reopened and let me board.
Rubbish, the boarding gate might have been closed, but they will not reopen a cabin door for a late pax ..in 15 years and 1000's of flights it has never happened
@@Tukadmunggabaliutarahave seen it twice! Most recent time was delayed flight still at gate but door closed small group showed up and they all coordinated to get them on
@@767kevin ..not on an International flight they wouldn't...APP , which is the information sent to the destination and ADC..visa checks etc, this all takes too long, then load sheet..maybe on a domestic or charter flight but an aircraft door would not be reopened on International flights.
Oslo International Airport (OSL) is one of those quiet airports. No terminal wide announcements or final calls. Boarding is only announced on speakers near the gate. It's your responsibility to be at the gate on time.
Well i feel it depends on airlines, nearly missed my fight at HKG - DOH , where I was escorted by a crew and was taken through a special security for crew, and I was last person to board! Second time was indigo flight from Hyderabad and we could just see the bus outside and. The gate agent said the caption said no, I wish we had our bags checked as they would have had to offload the bags and it’s easy to just let us in rather than removing our bags!
Back in 2021 me and my brother missed our flight home from MCO to PHL when we missed placed a bag at the tsa check. Then we had to wait from 1:00 to 10:30 at night, after the 8:00 flight was full. After all I like plane spotting so I was fine with it my brother was annoyed he had to wait so long
Saw someone whose wife was in the plane but he was a few minutes late. He wasn't allowed to board even though the plane had not pushed back. The gate agent was explaining that she had his wife call him but he didn't pick up.
It’s definitely not a hard rule. I was on an Emirates flight out of DXB about 2 years ago, and 2 passengers boarded the flight 40 minutes after the stated closing time. The airline announced to us that they were looking for missing passengers. We departed around 90 minutes late. On another flight out of Istanbul, a passenger was not allowed to return to pick up something she dropped on the bridge. The door was still open and they said the item would be recovered and shipped to her.
There was a lot of talk about not being able to re-open the *aircraft* *door*, but what does that have to do with re-opening the gate? Surely the gate closes before the aircraft door is closed.
I’ve only missed my flight once and, funny enough, it was with and because of Delta Airlines. I was supposed to fly from NY (I think it was JFK) to Madrid with a direct flight. The night before my flight, I received an email from Delta informing me of a gate change. So I went to the security control in the terminal where that gate was. Only to find out that the actual gate was the “original” one and it was in another terminal! I run like I had never run before! But I also had to take a shuttle to get there! On that bus I found out I was not the only one to have received that infamous email! Of course, when I got to the gate it was already closed and my luggage was there waiting for me! I think that the flight was overbooked and so Delta decided to play this little “trick”. Needless to say I’ve never flown with Delta again.
3:21 "Missing a flight because the gate was closed minutes or seconds before" No, this is wrong. The culprit is not the gate, it's the passengers being late It should be phrased as "Missing a flight because you are minutes or seconds late"
Airlines can and do reopen the doors, even after push back has started. I've been on a flight which lost a dozen or so pax being bused from another terminal. Plane was pushed back into place and the airbridge reconnected.
You mean because my connection was late I can't hold up a multi million dollar flight and delay hundreds of other people???? I guess I need to go buy a Gukfstream and do it my way
there was once on sq35 from lax to Singapore we were already taxing to the runway when the suddenly turned back to gate due to some logistical issue, followed by some passengers boarding, specifically at a busy airport at lax when we were mid taxi? Happened on 15 dec 2023 night time local iinw it should still be registered on flight radar 24 that we turned back
I've never missed a flight by this close of a margin (I missed one or two in my lifetime but more than a couple mins). However, I have caught a flight just as they were about to close the door. That was a hair raiser. My bud and I ran through the airport as fast as we could and it paid off. Thankfully I keep a stick of deodorant in my carryon because I was a sweaty mess after.
denied a couple of times at the last minute, but also allowed on board at least 5-6 times whilst late. universally they were cheap/unimportant flights, under £50.
What is the situation when a passenger has checked in and left there luggage, but doe not show at the gate. I was told that they have to go in a remove their bags for security reasons. That must take some time as well. I guess this does not happen very often. It would seem that the more common situation is the passenger not arriving at the airport in adequate time.
“Just arrive early” That’s impossible When an Airline has late service on your connection flight then close your connection flight door early and leaves you over night. That’s happened to me several times. It doesn’t seem to help to ask agents to phone ahead then make the sprint to the next gate. I’ve never missed flight one.
I missed a flight because they closed the gate EARLY. Alot of time its because of the 2nd reason. They reallocate your seat to a standby passenger and the standby passenger is someone they know so they do it prematurely and then hurry up and close the gate to ensure that person doesnt get pulled cause if they do then the gate agent gets in trouble for dong that.
Also people may not understand how annoying late passengers is to the operation. Ik sometimes it’s out of your control. For example say passengers arrive late when bin doors are already closed & what not & that passenger has gate check bags, ramp crews have to reposition equipment & open back the doors. Usually if the boarding gate is locked but plane is still open u more than likely will get through. Unless u piss off the gate agent or something. If the aircraft is closed then u definitely need some luck. Opening back the door is not like opening the door of your car. Procedures are triggered & everything is sent back to base.
Closed is an administrative function.. it means the manifest is “closed” and baggage is being reconciled. The aircraft doors are closed when everyone is seated, with permission of the Captain.
Had that with Emirates on a delayed flight out of london with 40 connecting passengers. Got to the gate whilst rushing through only for them to switch to flight closed. The jet bridge didn't get disconnected until 35 minutes later, with the staff saying "oh, that flight was empty too!" Cue 40 pissed off passengers having to be redeployed onto a packed flight 12 hours later to Jakarta. I've made tighter connections at SIN with SQ. The lack of coherent communcation within EK is a reason why i don't fly with them, given that there's no connection times greater than 90 minutes. Not impressed, given that we asked the purser if there was any chance of us getting ushered by ground staff at Dubai, noting that half the passengers were elderly. T2 Dubai is massive. Admittedly, the flight was delayed because we needed to get deiced. Also, we were one of the last flights out before the Christmas week and before LHR started experiencing heavy delayes due to snow. I get there's procedural compliance etc, but the tactfulness and disrespect shown by the smarmy gate agent was a bit cuntish.
How about about don't book tickets so close together. Good thing you weren't allowed on. Just because the bridge was still connected doesnt mean they can let you back on
@@jonathandpg6115 Go on you cockwomble of wisdom! A 90 minute transfer time is clearly recommended and achieveable on international flights. Please do tell me which middle eastern and far estern hubs you've had the pleasure or misfortune of travelling through. Loads and balances would and should have been calculated by the despatcher accordingly and the ground staff would and should have briefed all connecting passengers. If SQ, Garuda are able to get connecting passengers on rush transfers, then why would a supposed global leaderin air travel be any different? There was zero accountability, empathy or recompense by Emirates. So Good, I hope when your next flight gets cancelled and you have to shell out another £1000 on onward travel some miserable cunt will have the same empathy as you. Selamat jalan kontol!
@@jonathandpg6115 I love your insightful knowledge of Emirate's flight routes and scheduling. Please do tell me when you last flew internationally and transitted at middle eastern or far estern hubs. Enlighten me with your experience? Perhaps some miserable sod will share the same dim view as you when you and your fellow passengers have to shell out and extra £1000 or so on missed connections a few days before Christmas. Zero accountability, empathy or recompense from Emirates - particularly more so for the elderly passengers. If SQ and Garuda are able to facilitate rush transfers in less than 60 minutes, then the despatchers should have had the wherewithall to inform transitting passengers of the situation, rather than leaving them in the dark and feel condescended upon by emirati folk. In mean what would you expect from the "World's best airline" - Soft product, hard product? nah, no product.
Well I can tell you that I got to the gate for an Air Portugal flight mnay years ago and the airbridge had been retracted and font door had been closed but the gate staff contacted the flight crew and they let me board the plane.
That is the question we always ask Ramp will tell us a timeframe to find the bags..given gate staff do not know when the missing pax will turn up.Normally , once the offload commences, even if the pax turns up, it will continue.The new load sheet would have been released or an LMC done They wouldn't reverse it again
This is exactly what allowed me to board a flight even though it was ‘closed’. I was connecting from a Qantas to QantasLink flight in Brisbane and my arriving aircraft was late. I ran to the gate but it was closed and there was no gate agent (but the plane was still there). I found a Qantas customer service agent who started booking me into a hotel (it was the final flight to my destination that day) but on speaking to the QantasLink team, they realised my suitcase had been loaded … so they decided it was easier to get me onboard than to try and find my luggage in the hold. So I ran back to the gate and they let me on. 😅
A common "rule" I've noticed if the passenger has bags is that if the ramp crew locates the bag(s) before the passenger shows up, the crew "wins" and the passenger is left behind. For container loaded aircraft, this is sometimes adjusted to when they pull the container with the bag out of the hold. And yes, assuming no human error, we know which container to look through... 😉 This is obviously not always the case, but at least it was not uncommon when I worked at the gate.
Also, where does it end? "I'm only 60 seconds late!", "I'm only two minutes late!" "I'm only three minutes late!" It would never end.
It would end with the last passenger. It's not like 10s of people miss each flight...
Yes. Just get there early. Its not rocket surgery.
@@AnotherPointOfView944 it’s not even brain science.
@@SwordQuake2it would never end in the sense that letting people board late sets a precedent that you can get away with being late on future flights, and more and more people are going to cut it close. Airlines rely on most passengers arriving at the boarding time to stay on schedule. Not having a penalty for being late simply encourages that behavior
@@AnotherPointOfView944Rocket surgery…
My daughter and I were flying to Boston for a quick-turn-less-than-36-hour trip, and because I thought we could park in the garage at the terminal I didn’t make a Plan B for parking and that, along with the slowest security day ever at Hartsfield had us in a dead sprint to our gate, which of course was all the way at the end of the concourse. They had already shut the doors and we stood there catching our breath as the plane pushed back. We got on standby for the next flight (90 minutes later) and we were the last two on board. We didn’t get to sit together but we made it on. Lessons learned. That was the first and hopefully last time I ever miss a flight.
Thanks for sharing and glad it worked well in the end for you. If I may ask, did you end up paying a penalty for being late and for the rebooking? Or the airline put you on the next flight free of charge?
@@Mostafaa747 Delta put us standby for the next flight, with the understanding that if we couldn’t get on then we could standby the flight after that, then we’d have to rebook and pay the difference in fare. Fortunately we got on the first standby, and that was at no additional charge. Thank you, Delta.
I prefer to take the train to the airport. Less stressful than taking a wrong turn or being stuck in traffic, and if there are delays you can take a taxi as a backup (though I've never had to).
This week, I'm working in Eastern Europe, and where i am working is 10km from the airport. My home in the UK is just 6 miles from the airport. There are only 2 flights a week between the two airports. I'm not going to be late for my flight!
You working on an American base in Poland?? Wars a lucrative business, know a lot of mates being paid silly money as heavy dispel mechanics out there
Poland is Central Europe. @@d.b.cooper1
Can't say I've ever been that late for a flight...but this is NOT because am a "perfect passenger"...it's because I find the entire process of getting to an airport and boarding a flight to be very stressful, and the only way I've found to handle the stress is to get to the airport very early so I can get baggage checks and security out the way so that I can then sit calmly in the waiting area listening to music and/or reading a book until boarding starts....I envy seasoned travelers who calmly navigate airports and never get stressed!
i feel sorry for you, ihave not experience being at an Airport stressful because i love planes and i also find the airport stuff easy to get through.
I get there about 1hr - 40mins before the flight leaves. Which most people feel like it’s rushing but I’m relaxed. I check my bags which shouldn’t take long. I have TSA precheck and Clear so I pass TSA in less than 5 minutes. Then I’m at my gate just in time to not wait long.
All well and good, but the biggest risk of missing a flight is not being able to get to an airport because of rail or road problems. I allow many hours, but one time a lorry had overturned on the motorway leading to the airport. There were massive delays. I had to run like crazy once I arrived and only just made it. Others weren't so lucky.
I live near a huge but very efficient airport where you can go from drop off to boarding a plane in about 10 minutes some times. The relief in efficiency is countered by being screamed at by TSA for not understanding their inconsistent instructions on shoes or devices in bags.
@@LadyVenVen That´s great, as long as you only fly in the USA with your TSA thing.
Yeah I've missed a connection. My first flight got delayed and I missed my connecting flight. You just talk to them about your situation and they're pretty nice about it. They'll book you on the next flight.
It used to be that way, nowadays it seems airlines are doing what land transport has done for the last 20 years as well, provide "best effort" single point to point travel, where you are responsible if they get deleyed. Sure, you might get your ticket for the delayed trip refunded, but nothing more.
@@57thorns: In many countries the airline has a legal duty to get you to your final destination.
Glad I've never actually missed a flight so far, but came to close to it in 2022 when a) my train connections to the airport were heavily affected by construction works and b) the security employee suddenly took it very meticulously with checking the double-sewed pockets of my jeans. Had to undress in a separé and my gate was at the end of the concourse. Already saw myself waving after my flight but made it in the end.
One factor that's often forgotten is luggage transfer. If you're on a delayed flight that causes you to have to run to make your connecting flight, don't expect your luggage to make it onto your connecting flight.
I was late few minutes and the plane was not pushed back yet. Without checked luggage, the captain allowed the crew to open the door and let me in. Really gratelful.
My most recent flight I boarded a plane at SFO, only to realize that I left the food I purchased at the gate. The Flight Attendant was kind and understanding and let me go back to the gate to get it, but the Gate Agent was visibly annoyed and irritated at my request since he already had closed the doors. In the moment I didn't understand what the big deal was, but in hindsight, I'm grateful he let me get my breakfast bowl instead of saying "tough luck" and abandoning my food for some measly snack onboard the flight.
That’s I think really rare to happen. AFAIK leaving the aircraft after boarding to then get back on board is considered some kind of safety issue.
@@TheLikeys Yeahhh I felt really awkward walking up to the front of the plane and dipping out for a minute, but I paid almost $20 for the food and was starving 😂
Through a combination of heavy traffic, delays returning a rental car, extremely long security lines in Orlando, and a long way to the gate, I came within one minute of missing my flight. When I got there the door was open and I asked the attendant if I could board. She said yes and that I was the last passenger they were waiting for. I got down to the end of the ramp just as the final passengers were about to step onto the plane. If I had been one minute later I probably would have missed the flight. I breathed a sigh of relief when I sat down in my seat.
I was on my way back home and just landed after a 12h leg, and waiting at the gate for my last 2h stretch, when I run into a friend who also was flying the same route. Both tired after previous long flights, we started talking about our trips. We totally lost time and awareness, missing both gate closing announcements as well as personal calls. The seating we had where shared across several gates, so seats around us where never empty. When we realised that we where late, we started running towards the gate, only to see the green light change to red. We where sooo close to making it, but they did not let us board. They had already unloaded our baggage they said.
Were not where
I once lost a flight, I could still see the queue at the other side of the door in the terminal so they could have actually let me in as people were still boarding, but they were dealing with a Karen that was overbooked and kept insulting everybody, including me, because "she couldn't take my seat because I already passed security before the flight closed".
I also had the completely opposite experience, they knew that I was already in the airport and when I arrived to the gate with no hope because there were nobody around except the ground crew and the screen said "CLOSED", I asked them if I had lost my flight and they smiled back and said, "no, don't worry, we were waiting for you". They asked me to wait because I had to be escorted to the plane as the finger was apparently already configured in an insecure way that could have allowed me to go into areas not allowed for me or something like that.
In general being late is a major pet peeve of mine. If I can be on-time, you can be on-time. I do understand unforeseen circumstances, but in general in life, be on time all the time! Thats why im always 2 hrs minimum before my flight and i always choose flights that are not during peak times where and when possible. Overnight flights from South Africa tend to have early morning connections in Europe and America which is very busy, but we always book to have at least a 4 hr layover. Thank heavens i dont travel for work anymore, but even then flights in SA were usually very much on time and easy to plan for. In Europe, Asia and America i think this gets more tricky.
The general rule is 2 hours flour domestic, and 3 hours for international.
Respect your gate agents!!
Missed a flight once because my brother was late picking me up for the airport. I normally was picked up by work, but he offered to pick me up. I dropped my bro and relied on work transport and was never late again.
I have missed some connecting flights due to mechanical issues on an flight, not fun. On one such instance there were several passengers whose flights were also cancelled leading to a lot of passengers who needed to connect to the same destination from the same airport, with limited but somehow fully booked onward flights. It was a nightmare trying to find a flight. I arrived in the early morning around 6 am at the last connecting airport and only found a seat on the last flight at 8 pm!
My sister is like that, so I tell her that my flight is 1h earlier (or 30min for a train) than the real time. I never missed a flight/train since :)
One time I had a flight connection taking me home that was booked by my work, but on that day I was intending to fly somewhere else.
The connection was rather short, and when I walked up to the gate to let them know I would not be boarding, they were just about ready to close it and told me I could still get on.
The agent thanked me for informing them and closed the gate immediately.
Many years ago i was on a late flight and arrived at the connection check-in just as the gates closed. I said that my flight was delayed and fortunately the airline reopened the gate. While checking me in, another 20 passengers arrived from my previous flight and since the gate had re-opened they were all checked in for the flight. Just as well I was a very fast walker and very polite.
This remembers me some airplanes crashes that the late passanger would swear at the staff, and later they apologized for not entered the flight.
3:16 Better not to rest lorals on that and just arrive at the airport 2 hours before the flight's departure to eliminate the possibility of being late in the first place.
The plane runs for those that wait. It doesn't wait for those that run.
My last flight kept the gate open as the Captain was late and there was no one else to fly it.
I was once let on board 3 minutes after gate closing with IndiGo, an airline obsessed with its on-time performance and who's gates close 25 minutes before departure. The gate agent called me and I told him I was a minute away and I am also a staff member of IndiGo, so he very luckily let me on board. I needed to catch this flight as I was supposed to go to work straight after.
I think people think airlines are like busses or trains where you can go in very last minute. But as always, if you miss your flight cuz of connecting problem, please be nice to the gate agent as they may be able to assist you in getting to another flight.
I had an experience with missing a flight this year. During summer this year, my SWISS flight from Manchester to Zurich was delayed due to a fault with the aircraft part. As a result, I've missed my connecting flight to Hong Kong. After arriving at Zurich, I stayed in the hotel for a night, and then took a SWISS flight to Hong Kong the next day.
Usually if you miss a connection, they're pretty nice about it. they just book you on the next flight.
@@JingJao yea especially if you’re at the airlines hub, or both your flights are with the same airline. it’s easy for them to just put you in a hotel till the next flight, with the rates they’d pay for a night it’s worth it to save the reputation loss
maintenance
That’s kinda the whole point of booking a connecting flight all the way through on 1 airline. They’re responsible for getting you there, it’s why you should avoid mix & matching connections between different airlines that aren’t codeshares
@@d.b.cooper1 That's why I hate tight connections.
Some decades ago (1970s) I flew on business regularly. One evening I was delayed by a slow rental car return at a small Southern airport and ended up getting to the to the gate as the aircraft was pushing back. I commented "Damn, I wont be able to tuck in my kids tonight" to the agent at the gate and he got on his hand-held radio and asked them to return, which took a few minutes. I boarded to a round of applause and grabbed my seat. After the obligatory safety presentation the Purser came down to my seat and asked if I would like to say anything. I asked her if I could stand and express my thanks and apology to everyone for delaying them which was granted to another round of applause.
I have an affection to this day for Delta Airlines. Times have surely changed for the worse.
This is the kind of video I love. The title answers the question. I don't even have to watch it.
I do remember just missing a train at Newport last Saturday, the train was still there but "train doors will be locked shut up to 40 seconds prior to departure" and I couldn't get to the train doors in time and had to wait about *TEN* minutes for the next one.
I was travelling with a group of ~25 people and we barely missed our connecting flight due to the first one being delayed. We had to stay in the airport for nine hours and luckily we were all put on the same flight, a different one later that day.
There's been occasions where I've arrived at the gate, stood there for minutes and watched my plane pushes back without me. Those are the worst.
I've also been in situations where the aircraft left early, so it's completely gone before I even arrive there.
Nowadays I prefer to go to the airport early, especially when I have lounge access so I can relax before the flight.
I had a missed flight this summer, I got the notifications that it had been delayed 45 minutes due to mechanical issues so I arrived 45 minutes later than I originally planned.
I was having trouble checking in on the app and then when I got to the airport I found that there was no kiosk or front desk agents (pre-security) to help me do the check in. They had already gone off duty as if the flight hadn't been delayed.
I rebooked for a few days later and I already had a few more days off work anyway. I got to visit more with family in a cool different place. When I checked in on the app for that flight it was fine.
Anyway it worked out great and I guess I was super lucky to get the deals I did on the last minute flight hotel and car.
I could have flown out same or next day for $700, instead I flew out 3 days later and the new flight, hotel, and car were about $650 total. Not a terrible price for the lesson. In future I'll always check in on the app 24 hours ahead. If there's an error I'll go to the airport right away, a day ahead, to fix it in-person for tomorrow's flight.
@TreeStump-and-CheeseKetchupIT I have another good one. I purchased a trip on two different airlines, one domestic, one international. The idea was to fly from home to IAD on AA, then fly to Europe on TAP. The AA flight ended up arriving in DCA late, and by the time I collected my bag, the TAP check-in was closed.
TSA allowed me to take my suitcase to the gate, but I had to discard all the prohibited items, like lotion, pocket knife, etc, so I was able to check in my suitcase at the gate and I made the flight. 🤣
Yeah, I remember seeing my gate closing just as I was rushing towards it :)
I was once on a very short connection in FRA. Ran for my life only to find the jetbridge doors closed at my gate with no gate agent. The A340 was still at the gate. I simply pushed the doors and walked ran the jetbridge only to find the gate agent was at the aircraft door telling them that I hadn't made it and to unload my bags. She looked at me, confused, and said "oh! you are here?" after which the crew at the door welcomed me and immediately went to the PA system to announce "boarding complete". Was very stressful but felt like quite a triumph to make it.
I've never missed a flight, but have missed so many connecting flights!!!
Entitled people will never get their head wrapped around this.
I witnessed someone ELSE go through that at MDW once. I was nonrev, flying standby anyway, flight was full, no big deal. Picked up a USA Today newspaper and hear the gate agent paging a missing passenger, by name. Twice. Finally, too late, they closed the flight, plane is still sitting there, guy comes casually strolling up, ready to go. Agent explains no. Entire, predictable back-and-forth ensues, which I eavesdrop on. In exasperation he yells, "But my watch says I have two more minutes!" to which the calm, cool as a cucumber agent deadpanned, "Unfortunately neither you nor your watch were here when you needed to be.". And I just BURST OUT laughing behind the paper. He slinked away.
As someone that be held up too many times by very late people ranting with check-in thinking they were in some way "special". It was great to hear a little while back the EasyJet had changed their computer systems, so that if you were not there 30 minutes before the flight, the flight was not on the check in system. So no special cases, no I'm special, my aunt just died. There was zero chance that anyone could pull strings or make an exception. Brilliant
This is why I always arrive to the airport at least 2 hours early, 3 hours if I'm flying out of Atlanta.
It didn't happen to me, but I did witness one guy who was only a few minutes late for check-in (so long before boarding). The airport was small, he didn't have checked luggage, security was quick to go through and there was no duty free trap to the gates (they were just behind passport control and security). But there was nothing they could do for him. They told him he missed his flight, even though the plane was taking off 40 minutes later, and boarding wouldn't start until about 10 minutes before departure (yeah, they like to stress us like that)
Once I ran across the full length of DEN to catch a flight after a weather delay. Go figure, my next flight finished boarding early and assumed I wasn't going to make it. When the gate agent came back in from outside and saw me, she said, "RUN!", and we ran outside down the steps and waved down the plane just as it was pushing back. They opened the door for me and let me on real quick, thankfully. I'm sure this wouldn't have worked out if it weren't a little regional jet.
Show up at the airport 3 hours or more. Layovers plan them 3 hours or more. Especially when clearing immigration and customs, should be 4 hours.Get global Entry or prefill ArriveCan’s customs declaration.
Bring time. Be timely at the gate. Be friendly.
That's too much time! Imagine going to Ottawa or Edmonton 4 hours early, they're just too tiny.
But maybe a good idea to give that kind of time if you've never been to a certain airport as a departure before... Or are new to flying, or scatterbrained, or a slow walker, or bad at navigation, or misbehave during the screenings, or recently handled ammunition or fertilizer, etc.
I've never missed a flight. But the last time I flew, the Ryanair flight was delayed. Had it not been, I might have missed boarding. You see, I waited at the departure gate given on the main departures display on entering the terminal. After the original flight due time (I had headphones on listening to music, oblivious to announcements) I noticed the screen at my departure gate still said Brussels. So I checked the departures screen to see that my new departure gate was downstairs. Thankfully I had an hour to make the ten minute walk.
I also had a connection flight cancelled in the past. I came off a flight in Heathrow and changed terminals to get my connecting flight back to Dublin. But when I got to the other terminal my flight had been cancelled. Thankfully there was one last flight to Dublin that was far from full so it was easy to get my boarding pass changed. I remember I had not just the window seat, but the 3 seats on the left of that row all to myself so it worked out well and was a very comfortable flight.
Not enough people on the Ryanair flight had paid the “on-time departure fee”. That’s why you made it. 🤷🏻♂️
Last fall on a delta trip from paris i got to the gate when the door was closed, jet bridge pulled back and pushback was ready to start. They undid all that and i was able to board. Bags were loaded also. Maybe my status got me lucky.
no the Video isnt right, a gate agent can reopen a flight, I tell you that as a Rampagent
If you don't get to board a flight and you have checked in your luggage the luggage handlers have to find your luggage and remove it. Usually it's easier to just let you in than to spend the time to search the entire luggage hold especially if you are just in time. This applies more if your airport is a security at gate airport.
@Moonstone-Redux according to the app my bag was loaded and unloaded then loaded again. The pilot announced they need to do extra paper work before pushback.
I’m yet to hear of a full-fare paying first class passenger being denied boarding for being a little late…
Wait. If push back was already started, you're saying they pulled the plane back to the gate and reextended the jet bridge? Just for you? I find that hard to believe.
Well explain, and yes years ago in Mexico, the hours before departure a hurricane hit,flooding the streets, we lost the plane, not sweet pie.
I almost learned the hard way. Was relaxing in the business class lounge, sipping a glass of wine and scrolling through instagram. I just about got to the gate on time! Thankfully there was a few other people in the same situation and we were delayed. Had it not been delayed, I’d have watched my plane leave without me!
I have personally experienced this but the outcome was different - boarded the flight and realised I left my iPad at the lounge - the air crew permitted me to retrieve the device. Upon my return the gates were closed with my luggage still on the flight. It is true this is often a one way operation, and no on airside could physically open the gate and they had to call ground security to reopen the doors
I had a good experience on missing a flight in Russia. It was 2014 and I lost track of time and the gate was closed. When I asked about my luggage the girl called someone and then told me they stopped the plane from moving and they will escort me through a backdoor and speedcar to the plane and they brought the stairs for my sake. I admire Russians for being flexible and their abillity to bending the rules.
Yes..I was booked for a flight from Schipol Airport to Delhi..I over slept..My boarding time was 0830 am...I made it to the Boarding gate by 0820 am...Initially I was refused.as they told me the Aerobridge was being removed..after some pleading ...they Staff exchanged messages by Walkie talkie...and I was thrilled they got me boarded too..Ofcourse I got a big welcome clap upon entry... However I must thank KLM...This was 2015...I always loved travelling KLM...Their fleet..crew..lounges.. bookings and services are world class...I be retired since then...
Once the load sheet is released, an LMC must be done This causes further delays.Rarely is an LMC done to accept a pax, normally just for an offload.
Same thing happened when I missed my first for the first time on Air France from Paris back to Birmingham back in 2022 because I got lost at the Airport.
I actually missed 1 flight this year (and it was close to becoming 2 missed flights). During August I was flying with Aegean from Rhodes to Thessaloniki via Athens with my aunt and the flight was delayed because it failed on the pre boarding check in Athens and we barely made it to our connecting flight wheh we arrived (I had just enough time to head the airport toilets and eat a sandwich before boarding). However my return flight got delayed to the point I missed my connecting fligh, once again due to high traffic in Athens. It wasn't just me who was unlucky, as there were other passengers on that flight that would miss their connecting flights.After arriving in Athens we stayed at a hotel close to the airport, however I only got to sleep for an hour before heading back as I was rebooked to the next flight which left first thing in the morning (around 4 or 5 am). By the time I finally got home it was 6am and the sun was rising
I work at ground handling this video should be shown to all passengers
Nearly missed my first flight to Singapore on Vietnam Airlines, gotten a little too close to door closing time.
Once I was held on the plane for almost an hour after landing at Munich airport, due to not better specified “technical issues”, and then - after running through Transfers - I reached the gate to the connecting flight seconds after it closed. Gate agents asked the captain to reopen the doors for me, but the captain refused.
Lufthansa paid me a hotel room and eventually reimbursed my ticket.
you know people are stupid when a video like this is needed
It hasn't happened yet. I always endeavor to be at/near the gate before the Boarding even starts. I usually arrive to airport quite early as I never what to have to run like a madman, especially through an airport.
I've missed a flight, entirely my own fault. I arrived at the airport later than I should have done, last minute remembered that I did not have a present for my cousin, my name was called out whilst I was in duty free, result, gate closed whilst I was yards away! Painful!
Have to correct you on the fuel: fuel uplift is calculated based on preliminary information, such as booking figures or "checkin closed" figures. Not all airlines permit fueling with passengers on board (and those who do must have and adhere to safety routines), so all that typically happens when boarding is closed, as far as fuel is concerned, is verifying fuel on board against final numbers.
Regarding reopening boarding: as you say, it can be done. Whether it will be done depends on factors such as airline rules, time available, progress in finalising documentation (wheight and balance sheet, +++), your behaviour, and why you were late to the gate in the first place.
If you're just tardy and behave like an a**, expect to have the book thrown at you. If we think you have a good reason and that we are able to accommodate you without causing additional delays, we're often happy to help.
The most memorable moment I remember of reopening boarding was for two passengers from a delayed inbound flight. We later calculated that they had covered slightly over 1km from gate to gate in less than 5 minutes. 😎
That's untrue! I had a door reopened for me in Europe. I got there early but the airport was one that did not make announcements. I enquired why I hadn't been hearing my gate to discover it had closed. Luckily there was evidence I had checked I very early (without hold luggage) so they reopened and let me board.
Rubbish, the boarding gate might have been closed, but they will not reopen a cabin door for a late pax ..in 15 years and 1000's of flights it has never happened
@@Tukadmunggabaliutarahave seen it twice! Most recent time was delayed flight still at gate but door closed small group showed up and they all coordinated to get them on
@@767kevin ..not on an International flight they wouldn't...APP , which is the information sent to the destination and ADC..visa checks etc, this all takes too long, then load sheet..maybe on a domestic or charter flight but an aircraft door would not be reopened on International flights.
Oslo International Airport (OSL) is one of those quiet airports. No terminal wide announcements or final calls. Boarding is only announced on speakers near the gate.
It's your responsibility to be at the gate on time.
@@Tukadmunggabaliutara prolly depends on the country
Well i feel it depends on airlines, nearly missed my fight at HKG - DOH , where I was escorted by a crew and was taken through a special security for crew, and I was last person to board! Second time was indigo flight from Hyderabad and we could just see the bus outside and. The gate agent said the caption said no, I wish we had our bags checked as they would have had to offload the bags and it’s easy to just let us in rather than removing our bags!
Back in 2021 me and my brother missed our flight home from MCO to PHL when we missed placed a bag at the tsa check. Then we had to wait from 1:00 to 10:30 at night, after the 8:00 flight was full. After all I like plane spotting so I was fine with it my brother was annoyed he had to wait so long
I missed a connecting flight due to my first flight's delay. I rushed up to the boarding gate and watched the flight depart in reverse
Saw someone whose wife was in the plane but he was a few minutes late. He wasn't allowed to board even though the plane had not pushed back. The gate agent was explaining that she had his wife call him but he didn't pick up.
It’s definitely not a hard rule.
I was on an Emirates flight out of DXB about 2 years ago, and 2 passengers boarded the flight 40 minutes after the stated closing time. The airline announced to us that they were looking for missing passengers. We departed around 90 minutes late.
On another flight out of Istanbul, a passenger was not allowed to return to pick up something she dropped on the bridge. The door was still open and they said the item would be recovered and shipped to her.
What usually happens to me is:
GATE CLOSING(sometimes even GATE CLOSED)
LONG ASS LINE OF PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN
There was a lot of talk about not being able to re-open the *aircraft* *door*, but what does that have to do with re-opening the gate? Surely the gate closes before the aircraft door is closed.
I’ve only missed my flight once and, funny enough, it was with and because of Delta Airlines. I was supposed to fly from NY (I think it was JFK) to Madrid with a direct flight. The night before my flight, I received an email from Delta informing me of a gate change. So I went to the security control in the terminal where that gate was. Only to find out that the actual gate was the “original” one and it was in another terminal! I run like I had never run before! But I also had to take a shuttle to get there! On that bus I found out I was not the only one to have received that infamous email!
Of course, when I got to the gate it was already closed and my luggage was there waiting for me!
I think that the flight was overbooked and so Delta decided to play this little “trick”. Needless to say I’ve never flown with Delta again.
3:21 "Missing a flight because the gate was closed minutes or seconds before"
No, this is wrong. The culprit is not the gate, it's the passengers being late
It should be phrased as "Missing a flight because you are minutes or seconds late"
Yes in Cairo Airport I missed my flight for Mumbai
Airlines can and do reopen the doors, even after push back has started. I've been on a flight which lost a dozen or so pax being bused from another terminal. Plane was pushed back into place and the airbridge reconnected.
You mean because my connection was late I can't hold up a multi million dollar flight and delay hundreds of other people???? I guess I need to go buy a Gukfstream and do it my way
Can you make a video why airlines crew force everyone to close their windows shortly after take off?
there was once on sq35 from lax to Singapore we were already taxing to the runway when the suddenly turned back to gate due to some logistical issue, followed by some passengers boarding, specifically at a busy airport at lax when we were mid taxi? Happened on 15 dec 2023 night time local iinw it should still be registered on flight radar 24 that we turned back
Half an hour before departure in SL
I get to the airport on time. Not a fool to miss a flight.
I've never missed a flight by this close of a margin (I missed one or two in my lifetime but more than a couple mins). However, I have caught a flight just as they were about to close the door. That was a hair raiser. My bud and I ran through the airport as fast as we could and it paid off. Thankfully I keep a stick of deodorant in my carryon because I was a sweaty mess after.
yes we did!
denied a couple of times at the last minute, but also allowed on board at least 5-6 times whilst late. universally they were cheap/unimportant flights, under £50.
What is the situation when a passenger has checked in and left there luggage, but doe not show at the gate. I was told that they have to go in a remove their bags for security reasons. That must take some time as well. I guess this does not happen very often. It would seem that the more common situation is the passenger not arriving at the airport in adequate time.
Only because we’re not that VIP passenger 😂
Oh and if I were to miss my flight ✈️ can I just board the next one browned for the same destination.
We live in a two tier world. Closed gates are deemed final only for the common class.
Ive arrived at gates twice after they closed and they allowed me to board . Once on Qatar, once in Dubai
Airlines are serious about this policy.They have a schedule that they have to go by.
Why do airport personell say "gates closed" when the gates actually open?
“Just arrive early”
That’s impossible When an Airline has late service on your connection flight then close your connection flight door early and leaves you over night. That’s happened to me several times. It doesn’t seem to help to ask agents to phone ahead then make the sprint to the next gate.
I’ve never missed flight one.
I learnt that it is not possible to board even 10 minutes before the gate closing time…
I missed a flight because they closed the gate EARLY. Alot of time its because of the 2nd reason. They reallocate your seat to a standby passenger and the standby passenger is someone they know so they do it prematurely and then hurry up and close the gate to ensure that person doesnt get pulled cause if they do then the gate agent gets in trouble for dong that.
It’s not a good idea to OPEN the aircraft doors after the doors have been closed. It can compromise safety in multiple ways
Also people may not understand how annoying late passengers is to the operation. Ik sometimes it’s out of your control.
For example say passengers arrive late when bin doors are already closed & what not & that passenger has gate check bags, ramp crews have to reposition equipment & open back the doors.
Usually if the boarding gate is locked but plane is still open u more than likely will get through. Unless u piss off the gate agent or something.
If the aircraft is closed then u definitely need some luck. Opening back the door is not like opening the door of your car. Procedures are triggered & everything is sent back to base.
Yes tha happened to me before
Don’t tell Rob and amber this with the amazing race
I thought they cant fuel plans with pax inside
I got a car crash blocking the highway and ended up stranding me in the airport and me paying a new ticket
I was declined because check in counter closed. The boarding hasn’t started yet
Closed is an administrative function.. it means the manifest is “closed” and baggage is being reconciled. The aircraft doors are closed when everyone is seated, with permission of the Captain.
And emergency evacuation slides are activated
Had that with Emirates on a delayed flight out of london with 40 connecting passengers. Got to the gate whilst rushing through only for them to switch to flight closed. The jet bridge didn't get disconnected until 35 minutes later, with the staff saying "oh, that flight was empty too!" Cue 40 pissed off passengers having to be redeployed onto a packed flight 12 hours later to Jakarta. I've made tighter connections at SIN with SQ. The lack of coherent communcation within EK is a reason why i don't fly with them, given that there's no connection times greater than 90 minutes. Not impressed, given that we asked the purser if there was any chance of us getting ushered by ground staff at Dubai, noting that half the passengers were elderly. T2 Dubai is massive. Admittedly, the flight was delayed because we needed to get deiced. Also, we were one of the last flights out before the Christmas week and before LHR started experiencing heavy delayes due to snow. I get there's procedural compliance etc, but the tactfulness and disrespect shown by the smarmy gate agent was a bit cuntish.
How about about don't book tickets so close together. Good thing you weren't allowed on. Just because the bridge was still connected doesnt mean they can let you back on
@@jonathandpg6115 Go on you cockwomble of wisdom! A 90 minute transfer time is clearly recommended and achieveable on international flights. Please do tell me which middle eastern and far estern hubs you've had the pleasure or misfortune of travelling through. Loads and balances would and should have been calculated by the despatcher accordingly and the ground staff would and should have briefed all connecting passengers. If SQ, Garuda are able to get connecting passengers on rush transfers, then why would a supposed global leaderin air travel be any different? There was zero accountability, empathy or recompense by Emirates. So Good, I hope when your next flight gets cancelled and you have to shell out another £1000 on onward travel some miserable cunt will have the same empathy as you. Selamat jalan kontol!
@@jonathandpg6115 I love your insightful knowledge of Emirate's flight routes and scheduling. Please do tell me when you last flew internationally and transitted at middle eastern or far estern hubs. Enlighten me with your experience? Perhaps some miserable sod will share the same dim view as you when you and your fellow passengers have to shell out and extra £1000 or so on missed connections a few days before Christmas. Zero accountability, empathy or recompense from Emirates - particularly more so for the elderly passengers. If SQ and Garuda are able to facilitate rush transfers in less than 60 minutes, then the despatchers should have had the wherewithall to inform transitting passengers of the situation, rather than leaving them in the dark and feel condescended upon by emirati folk. In mean what would you expect from the "World's best airline" - Soft product, hard product? nah, no product.
Well I can tell you that I got to the gate for an Air Portugal flight mnay years ago and the airbridge had been retracted and font door had been closed but the gate staff contacted the flight crew and they let me board the plane.
I've seen aircraft return to stand and get passengers, soooo...
That does not happen often.
Probably other reasons dude.
But what if my baggage is in the hold? Wouldn't it be quicker to let me on rather than offload my bag?
That is the question we always ask Ramp will tell us a timeframe to find the bags..given gate staff do not know when the missing pax will turn up.Normally , once the offload commences, even if the pax turns up, it will continue.The new load sheet would have been released or an LMC done They wouldn't reverse it again
This is exactly what allowed me to board a flight even though it was ‘closed’. I was connecting from a Qantas to QantasLink flight in Brisbane and my arriving aircraft was late. I ran to the gate but it was closed and there was no gate agent (but the plane was still there). I found a Qantas customer service agent who started booking me into a hotel (it was the final flight to my destination that day) but on speaking to the QantasLink team, they realised my suitcase had been loaded … so they decided it was easier to get me onboard than to try and find my luggage in the hold. So I ran back to the gate and they let me on. 😅
A common "rule" I've noticed if the passenger has bags is that if the ramp crew locates the bag(s) before the passenger shows up, the crew "wins" and the passenger is left behind.
For container loaded aircraft, this is sometimes adjusted to when they pull the container with the bag out of the hold. And yes, assuming no human error, we know which container to look through... 😉
This is obviously not always the case, but at least it was not uncommon when I worked at the gate.
Yes you can. I was allowed to board a plane in Acapulco after the jet bridge was even pulled back.
Luck more than anything.
Cannot? Really? No. They don't want to and that's okay but to say cannot? No.
I’m yet to hear a Full-Fare paying , First class person being denied boarding when arriving a little late….
Just because you don't hear about it does not mean it doesn't happen.... Be on time, problem sorted.
Do you have special hearing abilities?