I was already wondering how the Westerlands could have so many soldiers, when they are neither a big land, nor have they that much fertile soil. The country is filles with hills and mountains. Not as much as Vale of Arryn but more than the Riverlands or the North. So where do all the people come from?
@@O.G.H. It's not suprising. Westerlands are quite big, and they have good climate there, unlike in the North. Take into account, we don't know if Westerlands are able to marshall more troops than Riverlands. What we know is that Wersterland's troops were grouped into 2, and then 1 big army (plus new army crushed at Oxcross), when Riverlands forces were widely spread due to the fact that war was taking place on their soil, so they needed to garrison several castles. Also, Riverlander's took severe casualties at the very beginning of the war, since Golden Tooth to Wispering Wood, which makes us readers never see those troops, when Robb arrives. Lastly, huge amount of Riverlanders were murdered at the Red Wedding.
I guess the population is richer and can specialized in other things than growing crops and they can sustain it by buying food to the nearby riverlands and reach with all the gold
House Farmen has a massive history that you kinda missed. They are a family that produced a girl that discovered land in the sunset sea and has a massive amount of conspiracy around her
I wonder if GRRM sat down and worked out each area in Westeros and Essos individually, one at a time, building the myth of each on its own and then tying them in together one at a time. All of these frigging houses for EVERY area and a rich history for each house. Tolkien would have been proud!
Eh, yesn’t. Looking at Westeros itself, it’s clear it’s just a large Britain, the Lannisters are the Lancasters, the Starks are the Yorks, the north as a whole is Scotland, and there’s even a Hadrian’s Wall.
To be completely fair most of the houses in Westeros are there to fill the page. Quite a few do have substantial history, but even more have essentially nothing written about them besides a name and sigil.
you forgot Elisa Farman...legendary explorer and badass girl from House Farman of Fair Isle...Elisa is the first person to sail west of Westeros.. Its said that years later when Corlys Velaryon was on one his famous voyages...He spotted her ship docked in Asshai apparently abandoned....This would mean that like Earth the world of ASOIAF is also round.
Untrue. Brandon the Shipwright, an ancient stark king sailed west of westeros and his son burned the stark fleet in his sadness over his father leaving.
Sweet, I hoped this one would be next! I’m doing a ASOIAF based D&D that the players chose to be in the westerlands, so I’m showing this to the less knowledgeable ones. Thanks mate, good quality content as usual!
I'm obsessed with the world of game of thrones and I love the iconography of the Lannisters, I made a polymer clay, glass and styrofoam Lannisport and CasterlyRock rock based on that first picture you showed for my hallway, i'm extremely happy with the results "hear me roar" 🦁🏰🥰
The Crownlands don't border the Westerlands at all; the Riverlands border to the east, Reach to the South, Ironman's bay to the North and the Sunset sea to the West.
@@deleteduser9672 Where did you hear that? Perhaps they might be a branch of the Payne family with a Castle in the Crownlands. Those Payne's probably reside near the Capital because they work with the Lannisters and Royal Family. It isn't uncommon for Houses to Branch off: Baratheons of: Storms EndKing's Landing and Dragonstone Lannisters of: Casterly Rock and Lannisport Fossoways of: Cider Hall and New Barrel Daynes of: Starfall and High Hermitage
What kind of maps are you guys look at. The Crownlands are very thin compared to the other regions, only boarded by the Riverlands and Reach to the West and the Stormlands to the south. The Westerlands do not stretch from Fair Isle and Casterly Rock to the Crownlands.
When Robb married Jeyne the Spicers were roped into lawfully, they had no loyalty to Robb. Greywind proves this with his constant distrust of them. So Tywin gifting them the ruins of Castamere is a message, dont make the lannisters question their loyalty again.
Lancel was serving him wine 3 times the strength of normal wine, instructed by Cersei. Robert was plotted on and murdered. Cersei actually planned for him to die at the tournament.
Landed Knights are not Lords. Landed Knights will have a keep and some lands from which to collect taxes and enforce ruling over, however those lands are not large and they cannot hold court or pass a Lords Judgement and must still defer to the Lords who have given them the land to preside over.
Love your work on these maps Whycreate.. Beautifully done.. Never did read all the books, but the Maps help place where the hell you are in the shows and makes for good History and understanding of their lore and such.
Ah, the Westerlands. Prosperous, beautiful and reasonably hospitable. Judging by the sheer might and glory of Casterly Rock, and the history of House Lannister's reign over the West, they should be the royal house of Westeros, and the Rock, not King's Landing the capital. George Martin has said himself that the Lannisters kept the West safe and full of plenty and peace even in the most turbulent times of Westeros. And it is the Westerlands who put Westeros on the map in the known world with the "golden city" of Lannisport and the Rock known and admired as far as Asshai. Yes they've had some truly awful representatives as all houses have, but all in all they far outdo the supposed grandeur of the dragon kings who contributed nothing but a cesspool of corruption, poverty and power-grabbing for a capital, a squat, ugly looking fortification on Dragonstone, depressive. And the worst civil wars in history, Maegor's wars, the Dance of Dragons, Blackfyre rebellions, Robert's Rebellion, for which the Mad King was responsible. I just wish the show had done better by the Westerlands and certainly the Rock. And I'm not at all biased just because I'd certainly be a Lanniser myself with my blonde hair and green eyes. Hear me Roar!
THREE TIMES taller than The Wall??? OKAY George, calm down! 😂 I’ve been to the Grand Canyon and that’s one of those things so large that you can feel your brain struggling a bit to comprehend what it’s seeing. I can’t imagine how a layperson would’ve reacted to seeing something like Casterly Rock for the first time…
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The Herrock Kenning horn. Herrock. Kenning. Herring. George mate. Stop it.
Interesting how Tywin contradicts himself when he says to Joffrey that a king must learn to forgive the people who surrendered and bent the knee, when he himself obliterated two houses, that surrendered, from the surface of Westeros. Joffrey is just a young Tywin, thirsty for revenge and blood.
Nonsense, joffrey is in the highest position of power, giving mercy will earn him love and respect, and the opposite would earn him only hate. tywin was in a time when his house was ridiculed and laughed at, mercy would have been a sign of weakness, he also needed to make an example and build a reputation.
@@gebreknefekalmoradiss3785 He butchered countless of innocent civilians, is responsible for the brutalizing of Elia Martell and her kids. Where was the mercy in that?
@@O.G.H. this is completely unrelated to my answer, can you read English? Tywin didn't have mercy because he deemed it less beneficial than ruthlessness, joffrey wasn't ruthless, he was just mad and enjoyed people's suffering. Tywin killed countless innocents, and so did Robert baratheon and eddard stark and the thousands of men they led, armies always went on rampages during wars and the smallfolk suffered, the sack of Kingslanding would have happened to any other city if it was on the end of a medieval army and it's the result of a heavy lack of discipline not the commander's orders, elia and her children's fate was a political move to be in the good graces of robert baratheon, the new king who hated anyone related to the targaryens, it also proved that he wasn't supporting the targaryens despite having been hand of the king for a long time, and it did work since robert agreed to take his daughter as a wife and queen. Tywin was a pragmatic man and ruthlessness brought him so much, What would he have gained from mercy?
You forgot to mention the most famous Farman - Elissa, who stole 3 dragon eggs that most likely ended up with Dany. Also, Jayne Westerling's mother was a Spicer, which would explain her proficiency with anti fertility potions she fed to Jayne - if she's descendant from Maggi the Frog. Another interesting tidbit about the Crakehalls is that Jaime Lannister squired for Lord Crakehall and protecting his master knight was part of the heroics that got him knighted - he protected Lord Crakehall from the Smiling Knight until Arthur Dayne arrived to take over.
It's be vool if GRRM gave us any geographical explanation as to why lions can only be found on the Westernlands and nowhere else in Westeros, seeing as they're not particularly isolated.
there's literally nothing much interesting about the imp. everything you need to know about him is known by everybody, he's like the most mainstream character ever.
So Castelry Rock is sometimes referred as just the rock And the sigil of house Lannister is a lion Castelry rock is famous for its old mines and a Lannister inside the castle or the mines could be called the lion under the rock. The Lion under the rock… The Lion… Lion El’Johnson???? The Lannisters are fucking dark angels!!!!
Some major Westerland houses were left out this. House Marbrand, Swyft, Banefort, Payne, Brax etc... Cmon these are too important to go without mention.
1:48 "if the story is to *be* believed" Its insulting. If you're gonna be a youtuber, and not have a real job, please, listen to *and* edit your final copy.
Wish we saw Lannisport in the show.
They completely ignored it when they showed Casterly Rock.
And Casterley Rock was a joke there.
At least it looked like a castle... unlike Highgarden
It wasn't part of the storyline if I remember correctly
@@jakobschoning7355 It looked like highgarden should have looked which is the most baffling part
@@jakobschoning7355 castlerly rock isn’t supposed to look like a castle. It’s a rock, with some lions statues around it.
Even in the books, the gold mines are running out, not Casterly Rock but several bannermans mines are running less gold.
I was already wondering how the Westerlands could have so many soldiers, when they are neither a big land, nor have they that much fertile soil. The country is filles with hills and mountains. Not as much as Vale of Arryn but more than the Riverlands or the North. So where do all the people come from?
@@O.G.H. mostly likely lannisport due to its size and towns around the goldmines
@@O.G.H. 2 Words, Gold Rush
@@O.G.H. It's not suprising. Westerlands are quite big, and they have good climate there, unlike in the North. Take into account, we don't know if Westerlands are able to marshall more troops than Riverlands. What we know is that Wersterland's troops were grouped into 2, and then 1 big army (plus new army crushed at Oxcross), when Riverlands forces were widely spread due to the fact that war was taking place on their soil, so they needed to garrison several castles. Also, Riverlander's took severe casualties at the very beginning of the war, since Golden Tooth to Wispering Wood, which makes us readers never see those troops, when Robb arrives. Lastly, huge amount of Riverlanders were murdered at the Red Wedding.
I guess the population is richer and can specialized in other things than growing crops and they can sustain it by buying food to the nearby riverlands and reach with all the gold
House Farmen has a massive history that you kinda missed. They are a family that produced a girl that discovered land in the sunset sea and has a massive amount of conspiracy around her
I loved that part in Fire And Blood, and Elissa is such an interesting character!
Cuz he doesn’t read the books just goes on the wikis
How far Cait could have gone if she had simply grabbed the knife instead of slapping Roose.
Not far. The weeding would still have happened.
I wonder if GRRM sat down and worked out each area in Westeros and Essos individually, one at a time, building the myth of each on its own and then tying them in together one at a time. All of these frigging houses for EVERY area and a rich history for each house. Tolkien would have been proud!
Eh, yesn’t. Looking at Westeros itself, it’s clear it’s just a large Britain, the Lannisters are the Lancasters, the Starks are the Yorks, the north as a whole is Scotland, and there’s even a Hadrian’s Wall.
To be completely fair most of the houses in Westeros are there to fill the page. Quite a few do have substantial history, but even more have essentially nothing written about them besides a name and sigil.
@@Slender_Man_186Scottish people are undead hordes confirmed.
@@Slender_Man_186 Idc still awesome
Tarbeck Hall is located south of Casterly Rock, half way between it and Crakehall.
true
I would love a video on house velaryon
you forgot Elisa Farman...legendary explorer and badass girl from House Farman of Fair Isle...Elisa is the first person to sail west of Westeros.. Its said that years later when Corlys Velaryon was on one his famous voyages...He spotted her ship docked in Asshai apparently abandoned....This would mean that like Earth the world of ASOIAF is also round.
he did a other video on her
The masters already know the world is round
Untrue. Brandon the Shipwright, an ancient stark king sailed west of westeros and his son burned the stark fleet in his sadness over his father leaving.
@@dylan__dog Nope, they just theorized. They didn't even know much about Essos.
Sweet, I hoped this one would be next! I’m doing a ASOIAF based D&D that the players chose to be in the westerlands, so I’m showing this to the less knowledgeable ones. Thanks mate, good quality content as usual!
House Payne?
Podrick fucking Payne
Can you please do a video about landmarks north of the wall? Love this series keep it up!
its in the works!
I'm obsessed with the world of game of thrones and I love the iconography of the Lannisters, I made a polymer clay, glass and styrofoam Lannisport and CasterlyRock rock based on that first picture you showed for my hallway, i'm extremely happy with the results "hear me roar" 🦁🏰🥰
The Crownlands don't border the Westerlands at all; the Riverlands border to the east, Reach to the South, Ironman's bay to the North and the Sunset sea to the West.
Actually am pretty sure the lands of the paynes border those of house thorne in the crownlands
They do
No they don't , where did you guys get that from? 😂
@@deleteduser9672 Where did you hear that? Perhaps they might be a branch of the Payne family with a Castle in the Crownlands. Those Payne's probably reside near the Capital because they work with the Lannisters and Royal Family. It isn't uncommon for Houses to Branch off:
Baratheons of: Storms EndKing's Landing and Dragonstone
Lannisters of: Casterly Rock and Lannisport
Fossoways of: Cider Hall and New Barrel
Daynes of: Starfall and High Hermitage
What kind of maps are you guys look at. The Crownlands are very thin compared to the other regions, only boarded by the Riverlands and Reach to the West and the Stormlands to the south. The Westerlands do not stretch from Fair Isle and Casterly Rock to the Crownlands.
Arya: whats west of westroros
Everyone else: the westerlands.
When Robb married Jeyne the Spicers were roped into lawfully, they had no loyalty to Robb. Greywind proves this with his constant distrust of them.
So Tywin gifting them the ruins of Castamere is a message, dont make the lannisters question their loyalty again.
No Tywin gifted the castemare because Tywin and Sybell Spicer where working together to weaken Robbs army.
cleganes' keep is in the interior not in the cost, where you said is cleganes' keep is the location of the tarbecks...
G.R.R Martin: How do I make this kingdom a big deal? I'll put gold mines everywhere
Crake the Boarkiller so u know these guys are tough...
at least tougher than Robert Baratheon xD
Lancel was serving him wine 3 times the strength of normal wine, instructed by Cersei. Robert was plotted on and murdered. Cersei actually planned for him to die at the tournament.
Hey, you dunt saay that.
It wasnt roberts weak fighting ability that killed him it was his drunkness.
But Robert Baratheon did kill the boar.
@@thegreekdeal4747 but it was lord stark’s mercy that killed the king
Landed Knights are not Lords. Landed Knights will have a keep and some lands from which to collect taxes and enforce ruling over, however those lands are not large and they cannot hold court or pass a Lords Judgement and must still defer to the Lords who have given them the land to preside over.
Yeah he actually says that in the video. Quote 'House Clegane is a new house of Landed Knights, so they aren't considered lords.'
I wish we could've meet the other lords of the Westerlands.
Love your work on these maps Whycreate.. Beautifully done.. Never did read all the books, but the Maps help place where the hell you are in the shows and makes for good History and understanding of their lore and such.
Great series! Can’t wait for The Reach.
Ah, the Westerlands. Prosperous, beautiful and reasonably hospitable. Judging by the sheer might and glory of Casterly Rock, and the history of House Lannister's reign over the West, they should be the royal house of Westeros, and the Rock, not King's Landing the capital. George Martin has said himself that the Lannisters kept the West safe and full of plenty and peace even in the most turbulent times of Westeros. And it is the Westerlands who put Westeros on the map in the known world with the "golden city" of Lannisport and the Rock known and admired as far as Asshai. Yes they've had some truly awful representatives as all houses have, but all in all they far outdo the supposed grandeur of the dragon kings who contributed nothing but a cesspool of corruption, poverty and power-grabbing for a capital, a squat, ugly looking fortification on Dragonstone, depressive. And the worst civil wars in history, Maegor's wars, the Dance of Dragons, Blackfyre rebellions, Robert's Rebellion, for which the Mad King was responsible. I just wish the show had done better by the Westerlands and certainly the Rock.
And I'm not at all biased just because I'd certainly be a Lanniser myself with my blonde hair and green eyes. Hear me Roar!
Ok bro
Well true but unfortunately very little of consequence happened there. Maybe we get a shot in HOTD.
So we just going to forget about the Reach? Aight.
@@KumarAnshs Yup. We're gonna forget about it.
@@alexanderb5726 Yes my lord of Lannister. We shall eat gold ores and silver trinkets for supper.
THREE TIMES taller than The Wall???
OKAY George, calm down! 😂
I’ve been to the Grand Canyon and that’s one of those things so large that you can feel your brain struggling a bit to comprehend what it’s seeing.
I can’t imagine how a layperson would’ve reacted to seeing something like Casterly Rock for the first time…
The Herrock Kenning horn. Herrock. Kenning. Herring. George mate. Stop it.
Why did you use Pep Guardiola’s face for the thumbnail
Hahahahaha
Interesting how Tywin contradicts himself when he says to Joffrey that a king must learn to forgive the people who surrendered and bent the knee, when he himself obliterated two houses, that surrendered, from the surface of Westeros. Joffrey is just a young Tywin, thirsty for revenge and blood.
Nonsense, joffrey is in the highest position of power, giving mercy will earn him love and respect, and the opposite would earn him only hate. tywin was in a time when his house was ridiculed and laughed at, mercy would have been a sign of weakness, he also needed to make an example and build a reputation.
@@gebreknefekalmoradiss3785 He butchered countless of innocent civilians, is responsible for the brutalizing of Elia Martell and her kids. Where was the mercy in that?
@@O.G.H. this is completely unrelated to my answer, can you read English? Tywin didn't have mercy because he deemed it less beneficial than ruthlessness, joffrey wasn't ruthless, he was just mad and enjoyed people's suffering. Tywin killed countless innocents, and so did Robert baratheon and eddard stark and the thousands of men they led, armies always went on rampages during wars and the smallfolk suffered, the sack of Kingslanding would have happened to any other city if it was on the end of a medieval army and it's the result of a heavy lack of discipline not the commander's orders, elia and her children's fate was a political move to be in the good graces of robert baratheon, the new king who hated anyone related to the targaryens, it also proved that he wasn't supporting the targaryens despite having been hand of the king for a long time, and it did work since robert agreed to take his daughter as a wife and queen. Tywin was a pragmatic man and ruthlessness brought him so much, What would he have gained from mercy?
I wished we had seen Lannisport
Nice video :) love the details
Thanks!
Excellent stuff. As usual. 😊 Thank you for your research and hard work. Your content is thoroughly enjoyable. 👍
I wish we saw more of Casterly Rock, it reminds me of the hufflepuff common room, completely forgotten 😕
How about house Sarwyck an Westford from the videogame ? they are canon if i remember. And the story and game are quite nice.
You forgot to mention the most famous Farman - Elissa, who stole 3 dragon eggs that most likely ended up with Dany. Also, Jayne Westerling's mother was a Spicer, which would explain her proficiency with anti fertility potions she fed to Jayne - if she's descendant from Maggi the Frog. Another interesting tidbit about the Crakehalls is that Jaime Lannister squired for Lord Crakehall and protecting his master knight was part of the heroics that got him knighted - he protected Lord Crakehall from the Smiling Knight until Arthur Dayne arrived to take over.
I still like Tyrion's theory for Lan the Clever
With house farman now they more notable then before. Elyise Farman and the sun chaser
I hope this isn't a stupid question but where do you find these awesome paintings?
reddit, foruns
The House of castamere is written Rain not reyne. (German translation is house Regen)
Es ist House Reyne, rain gesprochen...nicht rain geschrieben
Corlos? that name seems like it should be in Dorne...
Maybe a traveller
I like to think of the Westerlands as the wild west
Mines go boom and bust and leaving behind ghost towns that used to be prosperous
i enjoyed this so much! great work keep it up!
OMFG THE SONG OF CASTERMERE WAS WHAT CATELYN NOTICED AT THE RED WEDDING? WHO IS THE MASTERMIND WHO PLANNED THAT!?
Tywin
@@viorp5267 using the song
was Lame Lothar's idea
It's be vool if GRRM gave us any geographical explanation as to why lions can only be found on the Westernlands and nowhere else in Westeros, seeing as they're not particularly isolated.
there are mountian lions in the vale but yeah it is kinda weird
Can you do a full video on Tyrion?
there's literally nothing much interesting about the imp. everything you need to know about him is known by everybody, he's like the most mainstream character ever.
@@mr.10rupees43 fair enough
What is known about Ashmark?
Passionheart21 thanks dude
Dude why are you using the ck2 map the southwest part of the westerlands doesnt go nearly as close to the blackwater river
Neither does it have the crowlands to the east
Why create this video (great vid)
Thankyou so much for the maps cuz i dont have books yet😎
@whycreate Anything on The Vale ?? No content??
Working on the Riverlands right now, but the Vale is next!
Isnt Tarbeck hall south of Lannisport?
So Castelry Rock is sometimes referred as just the rock
And the sigil of house Lannister is a lion
Castelry rock is famous for its old mines and a Lannister inside the castle or the mines could be called the lion under the rock.
The Lion under the rock…
The Lion…
Lion El’Johnson????
The Lannisters are fucking dark angels!!!!
did clegane lose his leg or did tytos?
Why isn't "the" capitalized in your video titles?
so much lore 😮💨
Westerlands never got enough attention
Please do this for the lands beyond the Wall
Its coming up :o
whycreate Can't wait
Some major Westerland houses were left out this. House Marbrand, Swyft, Banefort, Payne, Brax etc... Cmon these are too important to go without mention.
Probs don't have definitive locations, yo.
House payne?
you forgot the banefort
More videos please!!!
Great video. Thanks :-)
I thought it was Victarion Greyjoy is who burned the Lannister fleet?
Victarion was following Euron's plans
You forgot the Msnticore keep
Tha first!
I always find the side lore so much more interesting than the story he is trying to tell which I find boring as hell
i dunno about that haha, the story is so interactively told and relates to the side lore in big ways, but yeah, I like the lore a lot too
The author made the Lannisters golden and strong. The rock is higher than the The Wall?? Really. He made the Stark's average with very little Allie's.
asoiaf>got
The Boar killer? In real life i come from the ancient Norse house of Boar ha ha :D
The Lannisters backstory more resembles a rat, not a lion
The Westerlands are California
wish GoT was around 14 seasons would have done it justice. was really upset when jon killed danaerys.
house lannister will FALL . . .
Anyone noticed how Westerlands is basically California?
- the liberal polices of california
Lannisters are the best rulers
riverlands
Second.
1:48 "if the story is to *be* believed"
Its insulting. If you're gonna be a youtuber, and not have a real job, please, listen to *and* edit your final copy.
What's wrong with you man? , relax
This gave all the worst information