Thanks so much for including the dump into the sink! That level of humility shows a deeper level of confidence that makes me want to try harder to do the things I fear to fail at. thanks
That wouldn’t have happened if I had not been trying to operate the camera and perform the task at the same time. Some of the hazards of shooting video.
This right here has been my little secret for years to getting gold on the very cheap. There is a specific manufacturer of gold plated silver jewelry, specifically necklaces, that I always buy and can get for usually less than half the spot price of silver, that is always heavily plated with gold. It has such a thick plating of gold on it, it’s damn near gold filled. One necklace (usually an 18”) that I can usually find and pay between $10-$20 for has roughly .3 grams of gold plating and of course I also get the silver too, upwards of 28 grams. The only problem is I can’t find these necklaces as often enough as I would like but I have added quite a bit of gold to my gold collection over the years from this one specific source type. That being said, I’m glad to finally see you run a batch of gold plated silver and am excited to see your results with this material you have here.
That’s pretty close to the same yield I get from a batch of ordinary gold plated jewelry. Around 0.4%-0.5%. The “special” necklaces I spoke of in my above comment get ran separately in their own batches once I collect enough of them although the last one I got I ran by itself out of curiosity to get the exact amount of gold recovered from one necklace.
What you should also consider is the fact that the silver in the solution has a higher value than the gold. As always, a very informative video. Thank you for that.
Thanks to you, I already know how to do this. But I can't resist watching whatever you put up, as I always learn something new. Today it was the ratio of Nitric to silver. Cheers and thanks.
I remember you demonstrating a few times how little gold there really is in gold plated jewelry, so I just assumed you were really going after the silver to feed that hungry sliver cell of yours 😄 I'm guessing if this was not gold plated silver, but say gold plated copper, the recovery wouldn't be quite as worthwhile. Very cool video - and another great demonstration of just how adept you are at all of this. Years of experience actually count for something! 😂👍
@@nooneimportant779 I think he said he vents into his attic? I hate to think what any protruding nail tips look like, or any plywood/pinewood sheet/nail staples in there too. Even if he has a riser pipe above his roof ridge on muggy days or during the evening while the dew falls that NO2 will fall as nitric acid. Most asphalt shingle roofs can take it, for a while, clay works better but the gutter and drain pipes will brighten and shed whatever makes them up slowly and surely. But we don't really know what method he uses to either vent into a water bath or direct into air. Both methods have pros and cons. The fume hoods I used in college were also unknown to my understanding. Only person I worked with after school used additional air scavengers through a deep water trap in the stainless tank and then a mister to protect the plastic filter, carbon filter, and grounded zinc test sampler in the vacuum air handler. Daily checks and remedy as needed was the order of the day for him. Glad I never had to hand change the nitric laden water though, he had a plastic pipe directed to a holding tank and would scavenge that for the low mole nitric acid after settling, and used a filler feed with auto shutoff since he could not visually see into the trap/s to replenish the trap water. He designed the system on paper and bought/cobbled the materials to fit. I never saw a finished drawing come to think on it.
Imagine what them fumes would do to your lungs! Hence the fume hood and mask Sreetips has, and the point of his warnings ⚠️ at the start! Crazy ain't it!
Gooooood evening from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great night! Lucked out and only had the power out for 12 hours with the hurricane. Prayers to those that got the brunt of it.
Hello my friend. Hope you ar safe after the hurricane 🙏 It is morning here in Norway. I saw the news from USA. Many people have died. Sad. God bless you❤ Arne
It's amazing that a thin little micron thick layer of gold can be recovered separately if you're willing to make the effort! Always am interesting twist!
Thanks for sharing another video of this fascinating refining process. And good on you for taking the initiative and doing your part to clean your street. Recently a storm hit my parents neighborhood, knocking down trees and branches etc. I went down with my truck and chainsaw to help. ( get Free firewood) All the young people weren't doing anything. Standing around in their flip-flops talking about FEMA And various government agencies that come do everything for them. My parents in their 70s, My DAV USMC Ret. father & mom a Ret. Nurse; Were doing what they could do to clear the roads. Just a few downed trees that if everyone would help they couldn't have gotten it all cut up out of the way in a few hours. Wasn't even from a tornado or hurricane just A Microburst had knocked down trees in a few neighborhoods.
Hi Sreetips Great video as always😊. A question: -When you started the AR-process, I noticed that you added a few ml of sulfuric acid before you started the nitric addition. Please tell me what the minor sulfuric acid does in this case, is it for solve eventual lead in the material? Thanks 😊
I learned to do that from one of mentors on the goldrefiningforum.com it hurts nothing, costs almost nothing, and provides a big benefit. The sulfuric will combine with any lead that may be present, in solution, and form lead sulfate that can be easily filtered out. Lead, in just trace amounts, ruins the ductility and malleability of the gold.
That’s what I’ve used it for in the past. I saved it specifically so that I could make a good recovery video. Otherwise, I’d use it to inquart and get the gold that way. It’s the most logical way to use it.
Great stuff again. I'm the guy from Scotland that's allways got a few questions or observations of you great videos over the years. So here it is. 1. How did the bubbling buckets outside do in the storm. 2. It just shows that you can pay no more than about 50% sterling price for that stuff. Effort and cost to refine is not worth it overuse. 3. Curious how much you get for the stones, is there a decent value in them. Do you collect them up and then take to a diamond/stone dealer . Is it worth it, and it would be great if you did a video on this process and what you get o them. Observations : as the years have gone by I notice how your less stressed over a bit of spillage or getting 100% of the refine. This obviously makes sense, grabbing the last few bits gets tedious and repetitive as time goes on and also seems pointless. So I notice you collect a lot more for a future refine when before you would add it all in to get an exact amount. Anyone would do the same just an observation. Another observation: I don't know how it is in the usa, but here in uk I'd say its getting harder to find decent gold. People just don't have stuff like before. The old spoons and forks from the 1900s are long taken as is the brooches and stuff people used to wear. So less stuff around. The old teapots and snuff boxes and trays long gone. People just ain't wearing or using gold or silver like they used to. Have you ever bought from in person auction houses, I'd think they would be one of the last places over here that stuff might be obtainable, I could walk around a flea market/bootsale/fare all day and I doubt I would find any decent finds. Everyone knows the value of everything now. Best wishes
The buckets were fine. We buy stuff at estate sales and yard sales. We don’t go to auctions because there the prices are going up. The scrap is getting harder to find. But we are doing ok.
Instead of selling it, could you have run the sterling silver scrap as is through a dedicated silver cell, and then disposed of all the springs/stones/etc left in the filter? Then refined the sterling crystals? Is that route not possible or not efficient time wise, or resource wise, or just no interest in doing it? Love your videos.
Good question, the gold plating would likely make that a problem since silver nitrate will not consume it due to the, well, gold plating protecting what it is plating. Even if you chew up or mechanically chop the plated material the gold will not get clean enough to process without additional acid striping so it might not be feasible to do this to the pieces first, or last, or at all. Sound like it is a thought experiment with a null result, this time.
Yes, run it as a “parting cell”. But I’ve never tried it. It would be best to throw it in a large clay-graphite crucible and get all the junk to come out then pour into water to make 925 shot. Use that as feed stock for a parting-cell, or just use it to inquart karat gold and run it through like that.
Dang buddy I figured them gloves ain't that expensive 😅 I thought you would at least use new ones for a new video naaa I'm messing with ya I'm sure you were working with the other scrap gold befor the video 😅 I really like the content you give us man I'm just funnin ya I have really learned so much from you it's crazy
@23:30 What are those little pink and blue stones in that filterpaper ? Ordinary glass or some silicon dioxide crystals (because they survived the low temperature oven incineration)? Thank you for your fantastic videos, and I hope, that the hurricane didn´t hit your place that hard.
The dollar tree, and many grocery stores, sell wire drain baskets that will cover the sink drain. The rim of the basket rests on the sink surface and the basket neatly fits down in the drain basket. Only costs $1.25 at the Dollar Store. Might be worth the small investment for the future.
I remember an older video for plated where you did electro stripping with copper basket and acid (I think sulfuric)... which process do you think is better? Less prone to yield loss or yield delay (until filter paper or waste beaker processing)
The sulfur acid stripping cell works best with gold plate over junk metal. This is gold plated over sterling silver. Two different processes for two different types of material. I would not run GP silver in the sulfuric acid stripping cell. Nor would this process, in this video, work for GP junk jewelry.
Can you precipitate hold with magnesium sulfate? It's easier to dissolve then feso4. Mg would be easier to clean off then Fe. And it seems the reaction you're looking for is an ion replacement in solution with SO4.
@@sreetips Might be worth a try on a small batch - whats' the worst that can happen? Put it in the logbook as a fail if that turns out to be the case, re-run the refine, and call it a learning experience :)
I think you would have been severely burned anyways as it may have stuck to the rubber glove and burned through it very quickly. At those temperatures a fraction of a second is all it needs.
I can do some amazing things with a computer and biology, but you're a wizard. lol @ "may have a power outage pouring this stuff it's the middle of a hurricane, no worries"
I know its not part of your channel but that is a beautiful watch in the background, would you restore it and maybe do something to it to stop the rust from forming on it?
Question: What is the difference in theory when dissolving silver, and base metals from karat scrap compared to dissolving from gold filled, or gold plated silver? Karat scrap you use multiple small nitric boils, compared to using one large nitric boil for gold filled, and gold plated silver!
Silver, brass (copper zinc alloy) copper, are all soluble in hot dilute nitric. Karat gold is not. The nitric pulls the soluble metals and leaves the gold untouched.
on the bright side, at least for the material that was lost down the drain, you know EXACTLY where how much of it was lost and when and why, unlike the losses from the refining processes
There goes all your gold down the drainpipe Mr Sreetips. I dumped all mine out in a five gallon bucket of Nitric, H2O2. Fe2(SO4)3, HCN, SMB, and some other stuff which I forget, (kidding)
Mr sreetips...this happens alot when i cleaning my jewely 🎉same idear sometimes will get to much then take alittle break and go on...sniping gold in my city down town the centre i looking for gold or silver on the grond and in a surten way you can find little grams gold yesterday i found a onder russian silver/platinum ring for the wax seals for envolops posting stamps red wax! Greetings from the Netherlands mr Sreetips
We just got rain and a little wind. That thing did just as much damage inland as it did on the coast. Part of I-40 between Asheville and Knoxville is washed away. Unbelievable.
Sr Chief, I have a question. I know that you have stated in previous videos, that recovering pure Silver from silver plated material is not worth it. But, I have about 365 troy ounces of silver plated material. What yield would you say could be refined?
I honestly don’t know because I’ve no experience recovering silver from silver plated material. Except once, I had a plate and I recovered the silver. But it was much thicker than normal. That’s why I chose to do it. I have a video of it posted. Method for recovering silver from silver plate, or something like that.
@@sreetips yeah, some of the stuff is pretty thick and heavy, so it may have a thicker coating. But I’m not sure I might see if I can just sell it to elemental up in Charlotte.
Next time on SREETIPS, P-trap mining. 😅 I thought there would be a few more grams than that in the end but what do I know about it all. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
That seems lije alot more than refinibgb gold plate off base metal.. I just sold a sikver cel to local fellow who watches you. Gratitide. I need to find more customers!
So this is Gold plated over Silver which would result in Our lowest tier yield? Would the acid ratios be the same if this were Vermeil? I have been setting aside Vermeil just as you have done with this lot and now I have about 500-550g and was preparing to refine.
Sreetips I’m not telling you how to do what your very good at sir however I am a bench jeweler base off of my experience, at 7:25 when you are using the touch to burn off the combustible material, most all the gold plate on the silver jewelry is burning off thus leading towards a lesser pure gold yield. What do you think? Thank you,
I don’t think the gold will burn off. If I get it too hot then the thin coating of gold could melt and alloy with the silver and make the gold recovery a little more challenging.
Thank you for the reply sir, yes if anything the torch is just causing discoloration. Just for measures maybe next time use the same gram weight of silver g.p material try not to use the torch to burn off the combustible material, and skip right to the nitric boils. To see if you’ll yield a couple 100 grams (we can wish right) 🤣 haha love your videos stay safe & good luck.
Check the P-Trap under the sink. It's worth it since the metal is just sitting there. I thought ur handle was Street (Tips) but it's not, but should be.
@@sreetips I figured so. You, sir are a wealth of knowledge that we are all very fortunate you are so willing to share. Without your videos, i might never have gotten into PM refining. Thanks!
I got to ask, have you ever dumped a gold in solution by accident and spill your gold all over the place or down the drain like the material in this video?
Sreetips! You are the master Alchemist 🎉 I on the other hand have recovered plenty of gold but I'm having the hardest time trying to get any gold to drop out of solution? I've tried everything SMB, aluminum, copper, citric acid... I don't want to give up but I guess the Gold Gods do! lol
That weight calculation would be all fine and dandy if it was pure, but it's not, so that information doesn't help much... I very much enjoyed the rest of the video though. Thanks.
At least you got a bigger yield of silver than that crappy little button of gold. But 3 g of gold is still not bad always something to pay the bills with.
I can't wait for Sreetips next video: How to recover gold from PVC pipes. ;o)
Can't wait to see the sequel
If anyone could, he can
@@jakesmerth1919he’s a chemist not a plumber! But maybe he’s a plumbist
Just needs to remove the p-trap. It's in there.
I been wondering for years because the water is also poured off on silver and gold shot melts
Thanks so much for including the dump into the sink! That level of humility shows a deeper level of confidence that makes me want to try harder to do the things I fear to fail at. thanks
That wouldn’t have happened if I had not been trying to operate the camera and perform the task at the same time. Some of the hazards of shooting video.
Thank goodness sinks have p traps
This right here has been my little secret for years to getting gold on the very cheap. There is a specific manufacturer of gold plated silver jewelry, specifically necklaces, that I always buy and can get for usually less than half the spot price of silver, that is always heavily plated with gold. It has such a thick plating of gold on it, it’s damn near gold filled. One necklace (usually an 18”) that I can usually find and pay between $10-$20 for has roughly .3 grams of gold plating and of course I also get the silver too, upwards of 28 grams. The only problem is I can’t find these necklaces as often enough as I would like but I have added quite a bit of gold to my gold collection over the years from this one specific source type. That being said, I’m glad to finally see you run a batch of gold plated silver and am excited to see your results with this material you have here.
That’s pretty close to the same yield I get from a batch of ordinary gold plated jewelry. Around 0.4%-0.5%. The “special” necklaces I spoke of in my above comment get ran separately in their own batches once I collect enough of them although the last one I got I ran by itself out of curiosity to get the exact amount of gold recovered from one necklace.
I found some chains like that once. Had a good bit of gold.
What you should also consider is the fact that the silver in the solution has a higher value than the gold.
As always, a very informative video.
Thank you for that.
Thanks to you, I already know how to do this.
But I can't resist watching whatever you put up, as I always learn something new.
Today it was the ratio of Nitric to silver.
Cheers and thanks.
Stay safe down there. Can't wait for your filter paper recovery. Those are always fun.
I remember you demonstrating a few times how little gold there really is in gold plated jewelry, so I just assumed you were really going after the silver to feed that hungry sliver cell of yours 😄 I'm guessing if this was not gold plated silver, but say gold plated copper, the recovery wouldn't be quite as worthwhile. Very cool video - and another great demonstration of just how adept you are at all of this. Years of experience actually count for something! 😂👍
It's been interesting watching the bezel of the watch corrode over time from the fumes of the refinings.
@@nooneimportant779 I think he said he vents into his attic? I hate to think what any protruding nail tips look like, or any plywood/pinewood sheet/nail staples in there too.
Even if he has a riser pipe above his roof ridge on muggy days or during the evening while the dew falls that NO2 will fall as nitric acid. Most asphalt shingle roofs can take it, for a while, clay works better but the gutter and drain pipes will brighten and shed whatever makes them up slowly and surely. But we don't really know what method he uses to either vent into a water bath or direct into air. Both methods have pros and cons. The fume hoods I used in college were also unknown to my understanding. Only person I worked with after school used additional air scavengers through a deep water trap in the stainless tank and then a mister to protect the plastic filter, carbon filter, and grounded zinc test sampler in the vacuum air handler. Daily checks and remedy as needed was the order of the day for him. Glad I never had to hand change the nitric laden water though, he had a plastic pipe directed to a holding tank and would scavenge that for the low mole nitric acid after settling, and used a filler feed with auto shutoff since he could not visually see into the trap/s to replenish the trap water. He designed the system on paper and bought/cobbled the materials to fit. I never saw a finished drawing come to think on it.
i've been watching his poor shirt. 😆
@@MrPetrion that shirt belongs in the Smithsonian. I told him that a couple of years ago. That shirt has character it hasn't even seen.
Imagine what them fumes would do to your lungs! Hence the fume hood and mask Sreetips has, and the point of his warnings ⚠️ at the start! Crazy ain't it!
I guess everybody wants to see episode "how to recover gold from the drain" PLEASE DO IT :)
Gooooood evening from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great night! Lucked out and only had the power out for 12 hours with the hurricane. Prayers to those that got the brunt of it.
Glad you’re okay. The video I’ve seen is just awful.
Hello my friend. Hope you ar safe after the hurricane 🙏 It is morning here in Norway. I saw the news from USA. Many people have died. Sad. God bless you❤ Arne
AMEN❤ MANY NEED OUR PRAY AND LOVE RIGHT NOW. GOD BLESS YOU🙏
Goooood evening! (It’s really morning now). I always look for your comment. Thank you for your interest.
@@sreetips Sir..The clock know is 16:08🙂 in after noon 🙂
Oh, and I just want to say, I really appreciate that there is no music in the videos. Thank you for that.
I can’t stand mindless music in the background either. Unless I composed, recorded, and add it myself.
Thank you sreetips. I was wondering what the yield would be for this type of material.
Interesting to see how little gold is on gold plated jewelry. Those silver nitrate crystals looked so neat. 👍🏻
Those crystals after the first cook looked pretty neat. Chemistry has so many different reactions to it, which makes it very interesting.
It's amazing that a thin little micron thick layer of gold can be recovered separately if you're willing to make the effort! Always am interesting twist!
Thanks for the vid.. Loved to see the process for this type. Hope you all weather the storm safe. Be well.
Awesome idea Chief - filter papers on the bonfire! That's really making the most of a tough situation. Can't wait to see what comes out of that one.
Thanks for sharing another video of this fascinating refining process.
And good on you for taking the initiative and doing your part to clean your street.
Recently a storm hit my parents neighborhood, knocking down trees and branches etc. I went down with my truck and chainsaw to help. ( get Free firewood)
All the young people weren't doing anything. Standing around in their flip-flops talking about FEMA And various government agencies that come do everything for them.
My parents in their 70s, My DAV USMC Ret. father & mom a Ret. Nurse; Were doing what they could do to clear the roads.
Just a few downed trees that if everyone would help they couldn't have gotten it all cut up out of the way in a few hours.
Wasn't even from a tornado or hurricane just A Microburst had knocked down trees in a few neighborhoods.
Some of those microbursts can be powerful, and lengthy.
Love watching u, keep the amazing work going we all learn so much from your channel.
Congratulations on 300,000 subscribers
Thank you!
Watching this with no power here in Florida.
God bless you🙏
That's a decent recovery but the winner is the silver for the beast thank you sir for sharing this very enjoyable video with us six stars
I was expecting him to start recovering gold from hurricane debris.
Hi Sreetips
Great video as always😊. A question:
-When you started the AR-process, I noticed that you added a few ml of sulfuric acid before you started the nitric addition.
Please tell me what the minor sulfuric acid does in this case, is it for solve eventual lead in the material? Thanks 😊
I learned to do that from one of mentors on the goldrefiningforum.com it hurts nothing, costs almost nothing, and provides a big benefit. The sulfuric will combine with any lead that may be present, in solution, and form lead sulfate that can be easily filtered out. Lead, in just trace amounts, ruins the ductility and malleability of the gold.
I hope you and yours are safe where you are. Great vid as always.
What a chad, recovering gold in the middle of a hurricane
It looks like the best use for gold-plated silver jewellery is for inquartation.
Minus any junk, of course. Nice of Sreetips to show us how little gold there is in gold-plated jewelry.
That’s what I’ve used it for in the past. I saved it specifically so that I could make a good recovery video. Otherwise, I’d use it to inquart and get the gold that way. It’s the most logical way to use it.
Great stuff again. I'm the guy from Scotland that's allways got a few questions or observations of you great videos over the years. So here it is.
1. How did the bubbling buckets outside do in the storm.
2. It just shows that you can pay no more than about 50% sterling price for that stuff. Effort and cost to refine is not worth it overuse.
3. Curious how much you get for the stones, is there a decent value in them. Do you collect them up and then take to a diamond/stone dealer . Is it worth it, and it would be great if you did a video on this process and what you get o them.
Observations : as the years have gone by I notice how your less stressed over a bit of spillage or getting 100% of the refine. This obviously makes sense, grabbing the last few bits gets tedious and repetitive as time goes on and also seems pointless. So I notice you collect a lot more for a future refine when before you would add it all in to get an exact amount. Anyone would do the same just an observation.
Another observation: I don't know how it is in the usa, but here in uk I'd say its getting harder to find decent gold. People just don't have stuff like before. The old spoons and forks from the 1900s are long taken as is the brooches and stuff people used to wear. So less stuff around. The old teapots and snuff boxes and trays long gone. People just ain't wearing or using gold or silver like they used to.
Have you ever bought from in person auction houses, I'd think they would be one of the last places over here that stuff might be obtainable, I could walk around a flea market/bootsale/fare all day and I doubt I would find any decent finds. Everyone knows the value of everything now.
Best wishes
The buckets were fine. We buy stuff at estate sales and yard sales. We don’t go to auctions because there the prices are going up. The scrap is getting harder to find. But we are doing ok.
The plated is always surprising. The foils look so substantial until they get melted down!
So glad you’re safe
Awesome video, I can't wait till I start recovering my gold from scrap circuit board and chips.
Glad you made it through the blow okay, thanks for the video!
Helene's makin' it rain on Hopkinsville, KY too. Take care of yourself n the family, neighbour.
I had no idea how much devastation happened far inland away from the coast. The earth is a dangerous place to live.
@@sreetips Storm systems are packing more power these days because the accumulated additional atmospheric energy. Thermodynamics...
Instead of selling it, could you have run the sterling silver scrap as is through a dedicated silver cell, and then disposed of all the springs/stones/etc left in the filter? Then refined the sterling crystals? Is that route not possible or not efficient time wise, or resource wise, or just no interest in doing it? Love your videos.
Good question, the gold plating would likely make that a problem since silver nitrate will not consume it due to the, well, gold plating protecting what it is plating. Even if you chew up or mechanically chop the plated material the gold will not get clean enough to process without additional acid striping so it might not be feasible to do this to the pieces first, or last, or at all. Sound like it is a thought experiment with a null result, this time.
Yes, run it as a “parting cell”. But I’ve never tried it. It would be best to throw it in a large clay-graphite crucible and get all the junk to come out then pour into water to make 925 shot. Use that as feed stock for a parting-cell, or just use it to inquart karat gold and run it through like that.
I think they were talking about the stuff that I offered for sale.
Dang buddy I figured them gloves ain't that expensive 😅 I thought you would at least use new ones for a new video naaa I'm messing with ya I'm sure you were working with the other scrap gold befor the video 😅 I really like the content you give us man I'm just funnin ya I have really learned so much from you it's crazy
The day I thought would never come: Sreetips pours gold down the drain!! 😜
I hope you and your family stayed safe through the hurricane!
We are quite well, thankfully.
For a second I thought you were going to drop that almost glowing gold button on your glove.
The thought crossed my mind as well
@23:30 What are those little pink and blue stones in that filterpaper ? Ordinary glass or some silicon dioxide crystals (because they survived the low temperature oven incineration)? Thank you for your fantastic videos, and I hope, that the hurricane didn´t hit your place that hard.
They are some small gem stones that were set in some pieces of jewelry.
The dollar tree, and many grocery stores, sell wire drain baskets that will cover the sink drain. The rim of the basket rests on the sink surface and the basket neatly fits down in the drain basket. Only costs $1.25 at the Dollar Store. Might be worth the small investment for the future.
I have a rubber plug, just forgot to install it.
@@sreetips Let us know how many little pieces you get out of the drain trap.
Those silver nitrate crystals are a thing of beauty - Said W.W.
Great video!!!! Love the result.
I may be a dick, but I still hope everyone is staying safe through this year's hurricane season.
I remember an older video for plated where you did electro stripping with copper basket and acid (I think sulfuric)... which process do you think is better? Less prone to yield loss or yield delay (until filter paper or waste beaker processing)
The sulfur acid stripping cell works best with gold plate over junk metal. This is gold plated over sterling silver. Two different processes for two different types of material. I would not run GP silver in the sulfuric acid stripping cell. Nor would this process, in this video, work for GP junk jewelry.
@@sreetips are there markings to look for to distinguish between GP over SS vs GP over junk?
@ryanlewis3581 yes, the GP silver will be marked; 925
Gold plated will not.
Can you precipitate hold with magnesium sulfate? It's easier to dissolve then feso4. Mg would be easier to clean off then Fe. And it seems the reaction you're looking for is an ion replacement in solution with SO4.
I don’t know, I’ve never tried it. None of the pro refiners that I learned from ever used magnesium sulfate.
@@sreetips Might be worth a try on a small batch - whats' the worst that can happen? Put it in the logbook as a fail if that turns out to be the case, re-run the refine, and call it a learning experience :)
Safety first! Sorry to see you risking a severe burn if that button dropped out of the tweezers. :(
Don’t think that didn’t cross my mind. Plus I would have flicked it across the room and probably lost it.
I think you would have been severely burned anyways as it may have stuck to the rubber glove and burned through it very quickly. At those temperatures a fraction of a second is all it needs.
I can do some amazing things with a computer and biology, but you're a wizard. lol @ "may have a power outage pouring this stuff it's the middle of a hurricane, no worries"
Where do you get your embossed acid bottles? BTW great video and glad to hear that you made it through the hurricane.
I bought those on eBay.
It is a pretty color button. I wonder what the make up of that alloy is on the top of the button
Contamination, not sure.
Hi Sreetips, is it possible to use the gold plated sterling silver in the inquartation process and recover the gold that way?😊
Yes
I know its not part of your channel but that is a beautiful watch in the background, would you restore it and maybe do something to it to stop the rust from forming on it?
I could spray it with clear coat.
Question: What is the difference in theory when dissolving silver, and base metals from karat scrap compared to dissolving from gold filled, or gold plated silver? Karat scrap you use multiple small nitric boils, compared to using one large nitric boil for gold filled, and gold plated silver!
Silver, brass (copper zinc alloy) copper, are all soluble in hot dilute nitric. Karat gold is not. The nitric pulls the soluble metals and leaves the gold untouched.
When I saw the button size I was guessing 3 grams. I was pretty close. Would love to see a weight guessing game giveaway one day.
Surprised you didnt do a stainus test before dumping the gold waste. Cheers
on the bright side, at least for the material that was lost down the drain, you know EXACTLY where how much of it was lost and when and why, unlike the losses from the refining processes
can gold plated silver be used as the sterling silver additive for inquartation of gold, adjusting for the tiny bit of extra gold plating maybe?
Yes, use it just like sterling. No need to adjust.
There goes all your gold down the drainpipe Mr Sreetips. I dumped all mine out in a five gallon bucket of Nitric, H2O2. Fe2(SO4)3, HCN, SMB, and some other stuff which I forget, (kidding)
When do you soap-clean your beakers and flasks?
After each use.
Here where I live in oGIGHo we got a tenth of an inch of rain from the hurricane, land really tames them down!
Cool silver nitrate crystals!
That watch case has seen better days. The innards are still going though!
Mr sreetips...this happens alot when i cleaning my jewely 🎉same idear sometimes will get to much then take alittle break and go on...sniping gold in my city down town the centre i looking for gold or silver on the grond and in a surten way you can find little grams gold yesterday i found a onder russian silver/platinum ring for the wax seals for envolops posting stamps red wax! Greetings from the Netherlands mr Sreetips
Greetings, nice finds.
LOL! Sreetips: “we lost 6 grams. That’s not a lot.” LOL! That $511.56. Love the videos Sreetips!
I'm glad you made it through the storm okay.
We just got rain and a little wind. That thing did just as much damage inland as it did on the coast. Part of I-40 between Asheville and Knoxville is washed away. Unbelievable.
Sr Chief, I have a question. I know that you have stated in previous videos, that recovering pure Silver from silver plated material is not worth it. But, I have about 365 troy ounces of silver plated material. What yield would you say could be refined?
I honestly don’t know because I’ve no experience recovering silver from silver plated material. Except once, I had a plate and I recovered the silver. But it was much thicker than normal. That’s why I chose to do it. I have a video of it posted. Method for recovering silver from silver plate, or something like that.
@@sreetips yeah, some of the stuff is pretty thick and heavy, so it may have a thicker coating. But I’m not sure I might see if I can just sell it to elemental up in Charlotte.
Next time on SREETIPS, P-trap mining. 😅 I thought there would be a few more grams than that in the end but what do I know about it all. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
Thanks for calculating yields
That seems lije alot more than refinibgb gold plate off base metal..
I just sold a sikver cel to local fellow who watches you.
Gratitide. I need to find more customers!
I hope Everyone in the path of Helene is ok.
Can that silver jewelry be placed in the silver cell and recovered?
Possibly, but the high copper content would quickly saturate the electrolyte with copper.
Curious to know how many other precious metals are in that J Trap, next video?
Probably not too much.
Great video nice gold button thanks for sharing sreetips
I see a sink drain screen in Sreetips' future. Stay safe with that storm blasting through there.
Got a rubber cover, forgot to install it.
@@sreetips Oops. We've all been there.
So this is Gold plated over Silver which would result in Our lowest tier yield? Would the acid ratios be the same if this were Vermeil? I have been setting aside Vermeil just as you have done with this lot and now I have about 500-550g and was preparing to refine.
That should go just like in this video.
did you buy an oven? What's it originally for? ceramics?
I bought the over for melting, and incinerating.
@@sreetips I got that, i meant what kind of oven is it?
It’s neycraft burn-out oven for lost wax casting.
Yep!
Ah ya beat me lol
How does the nitric get to the base metal underneath if it's entirely enclosed with gold?
It always finds a way. How? I don’t know. It just does.
Sreetips I’m not telling you how to do what your very good at sir however I am a bench jeweler base off of my experience, at 7:25 when you are using the touch to burn off the combustible material, most all the gold plate on the silver jewelry is burning off thus leading towards a lesser pure gold yield. What do you think? Thank you,
I don’t think the gold will burn off. If I get it too hot then the thin coating of gold could melt and alloy with the silver and make the gold recovery a little more challenging.
Thank you for the reply sir, yes if anything the torch is just causing discoloration. Just for measures maybe next time use the same gram weight of silver g.p material try not to use the torch to burn off the combustible material, and skip right to the nitric boils. To see if you’ll yield a couple 100 grams (we can wish right) 🤣 haha love your videos stay safe & good luck.
Check the P-Trap under the sink. It's worth it since the metal is just sitting there. I thought ur handle was Street (Tips) but it's not, but should be.
9 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 🤗
Looking forward to the "How much gold I recovered from my drain-pipe." episode. ☺
I use GP silver to inquart karat scrap.
Yes, I normally do that too. Until I started saving it so I could make a video about how much gold is on there.
@@sreetips I figured so. You, sir are a wealth of knowledge that we are all very fortunate you are so willing to share. Without your videos, i might never have gotten into PM refining. Thanks!
What do you do with the loose precious stones?? Can I buy them on eBay?
I don’t have any for sale right now
U forgot to tare the scale for weight of sterling for sale. Scale was reading -300g from where u weighed the GP sterling. It’s over 2000gs
No, it was reading -30.0 because the plastic container weighed 30.0 grams.
@sreetips ohhh I'm so sorry I misread the scale I thought it said 300, it was 30.0. My apologies
No worries
Bonfire Up in Smoke Yields Successfully !!! Future Watcher's Present!!!
Oh shit... she didn't see that, did she?
Its so cool. You need a mold for a necklace. Doesn't have to be large. That says streetips. Pour a few for ebay. Oh yea.
Is there a way to test purity of silver like gold karat?
I sent samples of some pure silver crystal off to have them analyses. They came back three nines fine via fire assay.
I got to ask, have you ever dumped a gold in solution by accident and spill your gold all over the place or down the drain like the material in this video?
Not so far. But I did break a beaker during stock pot one video number eight.
Don’t forget to get the gold out of the drain
No kidding! There might be something down in his kitchen sink peetrap.
That’s easy
Sreetips! You are the master Alchemist 🎉 I on the other hand have recovered plenty of gold but I'm having the hardest time trying to get any gold to drop out of solution? I've tried everything SMB, aluminum, copper, citric acid... I don't want to give up but I guess the Gold Gods do! lol
Sometimes it becomes baffling.
@@sreetips any tips Sreetips? Lol
Double check with stannous to confirm that you have gold in solution. If yes, then keep adding SMB until it drops. If no then there’s your answer.
@@sreetips anyway to DM you?
Unfortunately no, best to ask questions here. I try to read all the comments posted by my viewers
Now we can look forward to a "gold plate drain pipe trap recovery" series 😂
Would you settle for a filter paper recovery video instead? In progress as I write
We'll take what we can get. 😂🎉
Good work team
I knew someday that was going to happen. Did you call a plumber, or did you open up the pipe yourself?
I installed all the drain piping under my sink. It’s easy to take it apart, remove the bits of metal, then reassemble.
That weight calculation would be all fine and dandy if it was pure, but it's not, so that information doesn't help much... I very much enjoyed the rest of the video though. Thanks.
I'm surprised you don't have a mesh basket in that sink drain to catch stuff like this.
I have a plug, but it wasn’t in. That wouldn’t have happened if I wasn’t trying to operate the camera and perform the task at the same time.
Value of all that silver vs. the gold?
852 grams to start. 3.2 grams of gold. Should be about 750 grams of pure silver
@sreetips, so I'd imagine recovery from Au plated silver really is more about the silver?
Normally I’d just use it to inquart the karat gold. But I saved it up to make the video to show how much gold it contains.
@@sreetips Or "doesn't contain"...😆
Is it always brass, inside GF ? (other than that steel one)
Gold filled material is usually a thick coating of karat gold over a base metal, usually brass.
The most valuable p-trap in the country.
Just me again! Cool viddy! GOLD!!!
At least you got a bigger yield of silver than that crappy little button of gold. But 3 g of gold is still not bad always something to pay the bills with.