Yes! Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!!! THIS is something I should be doing! Oversimplified tip from a trained classical singer who sometimes goes against everything he's supposed to be doing: High vocals or screaming = lots of sleep, a fuck-ton of water over a period of hours and make sure you've been awake for at least 6 hours before recording. EDIT: Also some kind of impactful physical exertion on the day. Enough to get the heart pumping. At a minimum, blow out all air, hold your breath, tense leg muscles and buttocks until you feel your diaphragm properly engaging. Any vocal teacher would probably think that's insane, but that's what I do if I've had to drive or sit for hours with no time to warm up before having to perform. But water and sleep in appropriate quantities will offsett almost any vocal self abuse (and drug abuse, excessive whoremongery, gluttony, etc.) Soft and/or worn vocals way below your natural fach = sleep deprivation and mild to severe dehydration; record as early in the day as possible (you will probably never be able to sing it in the evening). EDIT: Milk products or anything that thickens your mucus might work out. Haven't actively experimented with this Rob whatshisname, British TH-camr, guitarist and singer also has some great advice on rock vocals
When I got really serious about singing "properly" and went to a vocal coach, at first I was really excited because I learned all the proper techniques to go as high as I like without straining but after a while I felt that while I was singing more technically correct, I had lost some of the timbre (for thrashy pitched screaming I normally do in my band) that I liked about what I was doing before. Lately I've figured out how to get the rasp back without sacrificing any range or doing damage but if you have any extra tips or pointers I would appreciate it.
Aaron's vocal tip for heavy growls was to drink chocolate milk before the show... knowing the British humour, he may have been pulling the interviewer's leg. But perhaps not.
rude_mech makes sense. Milk thickens the mucus. The reason voices become higher the latter in the day it is, is that mucus generally becomes thinner and thinner during the day
wow this sounds amazing. I had a very goth gf once who showed me MDB and i instantly got into their sound. This is a very accurate representation of that original vibe to me.
BTW .. Personally I like the old 'shim' effect - It's provided hours of personal delusional grandeur when mucking around with the guitar in the lounge room :)
Another great video Owen. In my opinion your recent videos have been your best. I think more of your personality and humour is coming through. Particularly the type o vid. You could see your passion.
Great video Owen! I think deadsy would be a cool idea for a video. Not sure if they would be considered “goth” or not but there’s some elements of that in there I guess. Keep up the great work man!
I didn't really learn. I wing it to be honest. I was always hoarse from acid reflux and my broken nose etc so a year or so ago I was happy to hear my voice was doable once fixed. Things like clear pipes and choosing the right mic for the style is key too. I think my main plus is I think I make good stylistic choices. I hate it when people overdo vibrato, moving through scales etc. People also emphasize thier fav phonetics then phone in a word or two before belting out the last word. I like to stay consistent for the whole line, not just the interesting words or key part of the hook.
I've heard multiple times that most of their tone was a 5150 with Greenback speakers. They are lower wattage and have a quick breakup. Listen to "I cannot be loved" and the way it sustains at the first of the song. I tried that combo and it sounds very on point to it.
Mikael Akerfeldt, singer/guitarist of Opeth, can definitely attest in favor of the 'singing/recording in the midst of a cold' sentiment! For those who are aware or can recall when he spoke about the recording sessions for 'My Arms, Your Hearse' and how the vocal tracks were recorded while he was toughing out a cold! To his astonishment, he was quite pleased with the vocal tracks, and even commented that it sounded like a singer who actually knew how to sing. That record marked the first time he could approach singing with a fortified sense of confidence from that point on, due to how pleased he was with his vocals came out on 'My Arms, Your Hearse'!
Hamish has mentioned that the Blackstar Series One 200 is also all over A Map of All Our Failures. He no longer plays with MDB, he's doing Godthyrmm now, but he posts about his rig a fair bit and he's now using a lot of Orange gear among other things.
Funnily enough my dying bride are from my city and have friends who know them, was meant to be supporting them in my old band but left that band lol, but you didnt hear that from me...
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeeah... Strymon... I wanted to buy their echo thingy. Then I found out I could have a hooker for like twelve hours for that money.... Well, never mind :)
That morning vocal tip is exactly what Peter Gabriel did on a song when he was recording the SO album :D They mention it in the "Making of" if you're interested.
I started playing dry direct into an amp about 5 years ago...tired of the overused delay and ambience too. Sometimes I kick on some tubescreamer, but that's it.
What about the guitar tone of Dimmu Borgir (Enthrone Darkness Triumphant album) ? Are you able to recreate their recipe for guitars ? I looked everywhere and could not find anything useful. Only thing I found was something that they are using ENGL Powerball or Fireball amps, but nothing more and I am not sure if this is actually truth. Do you have any information in regards to this ? I would really appreciate if you could investigate this topic.
Hehe. When it comes to a POD etc, you can't overlook the details. If you put a fizzy tone though an analog studio console plus record to tape etc (which mellows the fizz with natural harmonic distortions) it sounds good. And thanks for the thumbs up.
I own pod farm which came with my Line 6 UX1 unit. It has the worst guitar amp sims ever, but on the other hand, some of the effects are pretty good and usable. The tuner in pod farm is the best, most responsive tuner VST I ever tried. Version 2 gives you the ability to load all the effects into the DAW as independent VSTs, so you can use only the decent ones if you want to. You should have just torrented it because fuck Line 6 for selling decade old, outdated technology at such high prices.
Owen, I am very stoked that you are loosening up on your anti-VST stance. Toontrack makes some pretty excellent products. I use EZ Mix and EZ Drummer. They are both very user friendly and makes the creative process run smooth. Come on over to our side. It's not as wierd as you think? =}
I want Megadeth's early sound, especially Chris Poland's. His tone was KILLER, rounded and full but heavy, his jazz sensibility still applied to thrash. Mustaine's tone was shitty in comparison, thin, fizzy and very nails on chalkboard but somehow it worked well being balanced against Chris's....
I still have my pod 2.0 in the basement. I can get some good sounds out of it but it's a lot harder than my Kemper or just turning my Marshall head on.
Yep. Horses for courses. I think Mesa amp with Mesa cab is bloat on bloat. But mesa head with a more boxyish Marshall cab turns the bloat into something more manageable. The opposite is true too.
I guess a lot of my favorite tones come from digital or solid state amps. To me it doesn't matter. I'm a Helix guy. It's more convenient and cheaper than tube setups and sounds great. This goes to show you can get great tones with a lot of gear tube snobs like to sneer at. Side note I like that you had to use vst with EMG pickups lolol. For some people that's like double krypronite
The guitar on "Bliss" by Muse sounds really heavy and is pretty much clean. I'm not entirely sure what's going on with it: I think it might be just compressed as fuck.
Hilarious! Really! And I did not know that. And since I have no money, space, time to use real gear I use(d) the good old GX with Riffworks. Nice Ibanez BTW. Cheers!
Broke your nose in a moshpit!? RESPECT! Dude, you're my fave dude by far doing rock / metal breakdowns on youtube. Take a tip from me: you could be the authentic well researched street rocker guy taking on that mainstream buffoon Rick Beato. Don't get me wrong, I like Rick, he's smart and talented, but his vanilla mainstream palette annoys me. People will like you more if you're a bit more FORCEFUL and ENERGETIC with your presentations and choose subjects every now and then that will appeal to the masses. You know your stuff, now just confidently get in people's face a bit more with your hard won knowledge like he does.....oh, and also please do Chris Poland's tone from Megadeth. That guy's tone was KILLER! I mean seriously, early Megadeth as a three piece would have just been Dave's shrill, thin shrieky tone and erratic, scrappy lead playing....
I love Rick's vast knowledge and enthusiasm but he TOTALLY marginalises the influence and creative genius of thrash / early punk. He'll do a show on how great Blink 182 are but he refuses to acknowledge the real innovators. i think because I had a lot of respect for him in most areas that pisses me off. He left Cliff Burton off his list of great bass players, when we all complained in the comments he wrote "thrash bassists just play along with the guitarists riff..." What a douchy thing to say! Thrash was the last great innovative development in western music, we should celebrate it, not relegate it to "outsider" status @@CIRCLEOFTONE
I use VST's all the time, but then again, I'm an experimental, industrial guy. I have a ton of hardware stuff too, but the VST's are very much a tool in my belt. Not a replacement. A tool. I certainly wouldn't say that I could be anti-VST because that would take away a musician's ability to experiment with a new form of sound. I think your issue might be that not enough musicians "experiment" and just use the VST stuff as a replacement for the hardware instead of as something new and as something they could do something new with. There are still many areas in music that VST's are not a replacement for. Try to do something strange and out of the ordinary with VST's, like Power Noise, for instance. You will never, ever get it to work. Getting feedback loops to work? Nope. They sound awful. Anything really experimental? Relatively easy to hook up analog. Digital with VST's? Either you have to bend over backward, and do 10000 work arounds to get it to work, it won't sound good, most of the time, or the software won't even allow it and it will break down. The programmers design their software to prevent misuse, when a large part of music making is misusing equipment to make music or even for certain rock bands to get their unique sounds.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I was huge into the scene in the 80's. When the 90's hit, I started noticing a serious change in things. All my favorite industrial and experimental bands either broke up, or started changing their sound to this more.. analog.. thumpy.. club music kind of sound, or they went kind of.. metal. And the bands all started sounding.. similar. And the new bands that started coming out were all sounding the same as well. They got rid of the real drum sounds and the rythm sounds that sounded like metal smashing into each other for this.. analog 4/4 thump (while there are exceptions, of course). Other bands got more.. mellow and lost their edge. It was like so many of these bands decided to stop experimenting and lean more.. mainstream. The industrial scene just.. never recovered from then. It's nowhere near as diverse or interesting sounding as it was in the 80's. I think one of the main reasons is that now, everyone is doing everything with the same equipment and recording stuff digitally. Everything is snipped together perfectly with loops. Everything became loops and analog synths. You don't hear a lot of "Found Sound" in what they call industrial any more. Back then, they used tapes and mics and recording was often done by hand in crap studios or garages even, by some of those bands, having to sync tapes by ear. There's little variances in timing that make the tapes pop, that are missing in the era of precise digital recording and I hear it. Industrial suffers a LOT because of it. I really like that.. imprecision and more.. chaotic sound and recording style.
What? The Light at the End of the World is a fucking POD? For real? I'd never think. I mean, It does sound a bit thin, but I always thought it's just worse recorded 5150. Jesus.
A more recent album: th-cam.com/video/IfL91QVhhBYr/w-d-xo.html; and Martin Powell played violin on Like gods of the sun and other albums before that Yeah... Also he is known for playing on Anathema's Alternative 4 album. On the otherhand on a more less condescending note it would be fine to know how the lead guitar has setup in the above link... I love how it sounds
Stop being a metal purist, I just realized today that even Metallica who where shitting on everything synth related in the 80 where using a Roland VG-8 on almost every damn solo on Ride the lighting and Master of puppets...at least Maiden weren't hiding the fact that they where using synths on Somewhere and Seventh son...
If this is a joke then fine... but you listen to only one song? These guys are one of heaviest and visceral bands out there. Ang they are not goth although they have some influences of it. They kind of always were doom/death Have a look here th-cam.com/video/6tT0LDJTOSM/w-d-xo.html
My favorite band getting some love. Good shit!!!
Flag you liked it!
I did that almost immediately lol
Lol. I typed glad but autocorrect turned it into flag.
Yes! Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!!! THIS is something I should be doing!
Oversimplified tip from a trained classical singer who sometimes goes against everything he's supposed to be doing: High vocals or screaming = lots of sleep, a fuck-ton of water over a period of hours and make sure you've been awake for at least 6 hours before recording.
EDIT: Also some kind of impactful physical exertion on the day. Enough to get the heart pumping. At a minimum, blow out all air, hold your breath, tense leg muscles and buttocks until you feel your diaphragm properly engaging. Any vocal teacher would probably think that's insane, but that's what I do if I've had to drive or sit for hours with no time to warm up before having to perform. But water and sleep in appropriate quantities will offsett almost any vocal self abuse (and drug abuse, excessive whoremongery, gluttony, etc.)
Soft and/or worn vocals way below your natural fach = sleep deprivation and mild to severe dehydration; record as early in the day as possible (you will probably never be able to sing it in the evening).
EDIT: Milk products or anything that thickens your mucus might work out. Haven't actively experimented with this
Rob whatshisname, British TH-camr, guitarist and singer also has some great advice on rock vocals
Great tips. That makes sense.
When I got really serious about singing "properly" and went to a vocal coach, at first I was really excited because I learned all the proper techniques to go as high as I like without straining but after a while I felt that while I was singing more technically correct, I had lost some of the timbre (for thrashy pitched screaming I normally do in my band) that I liked about what I was doing before. Lately I've figured out how to get the rasp back without sacrificing any range or doing damage but if you have any extra tips or pointers I would appreciate it.
Aaron's vocal tip for heavy growls was to drink chocolate milk before the show... knowing the British humour, he may have been pulling the interviewer's leg. But perhaps not.
rude_mech makes sense. Milk thickens the mucus. The reason voices become higher the latter in the day it is, is that mucus generally becomes thinner and thinner during the day
My Chocolate Milk in Silence.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE xD
Absolutely epic
Well played, sir. Excellent video as always. Really dug the vocals
Thanks Ron.
I'd be happy with you performing vocals in your future band recreations.
Thanks Matt.
wow this sounds amazing. I had a very goth gf once who showed me MDB and i instantly got into their sound. This is a very accurate representation of that original vibe to me.
Aaron from MDB here. This is ace :)
Whhhat! Glad you like it man.
The correct pronunciation of "Pod Farm" has a silent "D".
And the last letters pronunciation is "k"
I heard it pronounced as "Pon farr".
Po fam, the new fragrance.... From Bradford.
Lmfao!!!!
My Wine In Silence kicks in and BOOM. Instant Goosebumps....
Thanks man
I love this !!
Really interesting mix of content on the vid - The singing adds context. Thoroughly enjoyed.Thanks.
BTW .. Personally I like the old 'shim' effect - It's provided hours of personal delusional grandeur when mucking around with the guitar in the lounge room :)
hey I loved it. you nailed both the guitar and the voice.
Thanks Petre
Great Video, Nice tone on the guitars, really cool vocals
Thanks Steve.
Great video! Good insight and hilarious with the poking fun at vst
Another great video Owen.
In my opinion your recent videos have been your best. I think more of your personality and humour is coming through. Particularly the type o vid. You could see your passion.
LOL!! Awesome video mate! I absolutely love your channel.
Glad you like it
Great video Owen! I think deadsy would be a cool idea for a video. Not sure if they would be considered “goth” or not but there’s some elements of that in there I guess. Keep up the great work man!
Good shout
The fact that you can sing so many different styles is Very impressive. can you teach us how you learnt to sing?
I didn't really learn. I wing it to be honest. I was always hoarse from acid reflux and my broken nose etc so a year or so ago I was happy to hear my voice was doable once fixed. Things like clear pipes and choosing the right mic for the style is key too.
I think my main plus is I think I make good stylistic choices. I hate it when people overdo vibrato, moving through scales etc. People also emphasize thier fav phonetics then phone in a word or two before belting out the last word. I like to stay consistent for the whole line, not just the interesting words or key part of the hook.
I've heard multiple times that most of their tone was a 5150 with Greenback speakers. They are lower wattage and have a quick breakup. Listen to "I cannot be loved" and the way it sustains at the first of the song. I tried that combo and it sounds very on point to it.
''Owen, You've done it again, you've chosen another one of My favourites. Keep on keeping on buddy. I love This.'' Iain North UK.
Thanks Iain!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Sweet! x
MDB
Mikael Akerfeldt, singer/guitarist of Opeth, can definitely attest in favor of the 'singing/recording in the midst of a cold' sentiment! For those who are aware or can recall when he spoke about the recording sessions for 'My Arms, Your Hearse' and how the vocal tracks were recorded while he was toughing out a cold! To his astonishment, he was quite pleased with the vocal tracks, and even commented that it sounded like a singer who actually knew how to sing. That record marked the first time he could approach singing with a fortified sense of confidence from that point on, due to how pleased he was with his vocals came out on 'My Arms, Your Hearse'!
Good to know. Great band.
Killer job Owen. About time for some Katatonia or Moonspell mate 👌🏻
Thanks.
Love the porg. I'll repeat myself now... you kick ass dude. If only I could support you in a way... I feel guilty
Just commenting helps. Thanks man.
Hamish has mentioned that the Blackstar Series One 200 is also all over A Map of All Our Failures. He no longer plays with MDB, he's doing Godthyrmm now, but he posts about his rig a fair bit and he's now using a lot of Orange gear among other things.
Good info. Thanks.
How about Kings X? Both the guitar and bass tones are legendary and mysterious.
Awesome suggestion. I kinda need to sell out for a bit with bigger bands because my channel is dying.
Funnily enough my dying bride are from my city and have friends who know them, was meant to be supporting them in my old band but left that band lol, but you didnt hear that from me...
Cool. I opened for Xentrix and Skyclad back in the day. British goodness
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Oooh nice!
'Cause I'm VST, POD Farm Lite
VST, and I don't sound right
VST
, watch me load
VST, there's bugs in my code
Disclosure: I do use some Line 6 gear :)
Hehe. Funnily enough I'm pretty sure people behind Line 6 started Strymon.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeeah... Strymon... I wanted to buy their echo thingy. Then I found out I could have a hooker for like twelve hours for that money.... Well, never mind :)
My Dying Bride... FUCK YES!!!!.... its like my personal shopping list recently... KATATONIA Next pretty please!!!!!!
Thanks Dave.
That morning vocal tip is exactly what Peter Gabriel did on a song when he was recording the SO album :D They mention it in the "Making of" if you're interested.
Very cool.
Brilliant!
Thanks man.
I started playing dry direct into an amp about 5 years ago...tired of the overused delay and ambience too. Sometimes I kick on some tubescreamer, but that's it.
Yep. It's so annoying.
Last video was a tease. Would love to see you do Faith No More.
This one sounds good 👍
What about the guitar tone of Dimmu Borgir (Enthrone Darkness Triumphant album) ? Are you able to recreate their recipe for guitars ? I looked everywhere and could not find anything useful. Only thing I found was something that they are using ENGL Powerball or Fireball amps, but nothing more and I am not sure if this is actually truth. Do you have any information in regards to this ? I would really appreciate if you could investigate this topic.
I'm not sure but if anyone is reading this and they have quotes let me know.
best cover ever !!!
Thanks man. That means a lot.
Whatever works, man. Don't diss non-fancy gear that does the job ;)
Also, upvote just for the theatrics haha.
Hehe. When it comes to a POD etc, you can't overlook the details. If you put a fizzy tone though an analog studio console plus record to tape etc (which mellows the fizz with natural harmonic distortions) it sounds good. And thanks for the thumbs up.
Could you try to recreate SOAD self titled/toxicity/steal this album guitar tone please :D
One of my fav productions. I tried and failed in the past. It's so hard to get the whole package right. The drums are immense.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I know your pain. Have you seen Sylvia Massy drawing of gear setup that was used in recording of self titled album? (She recorded it)
No. I'm a fan of her early stuff. Do you have Link?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE www.gearslutz.com/board/q-a-with-sylvia-massy/901957-system-downs-raw-guitar-bass-sound.html
Nice tone...wait no tubes?? Wow who would have thought??😎😎
Plus emg cleans, haha.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE 😎😎 Emgs are sick🤑
The tears dont fall reference is really good😂
I know deep down that any trad goths watching this will get wound up by the suggestion that bullet from my valentine is goth.
Oh GOD a computer it burns my eyes!! 😭... 🤔 *realizes he is using a computer to view video*
Lol. If you watch it in candlelight that counts.
Any tips for The Angel & the Dark River ?
I own pod farm which came with my Line 6 UX1 unit. It has the worst guitar amp sims ever, but on the other hand, some of the effects are pretty good and usable. The tuner in pod farm is the best, most responsive tuner VST I ever tried. Version 2 gives you the ability to load all the effects into the DAW as independent VSTs, so you can use only the decent ones if you want to.
You should have just torrented it because fuck Line 6 for selling decade old, outdated technology at such high prices.
Haha. Yep pod farm is starting to creak compared to free guitar vst's out there.
bummer about the cold, we seem to have one thats going away n coming back too. its a pain
Yep. I think it's time to go to the docs. I have some other stuff going on too.
lol I had the flu vaccination, didn't help much
best go though if you got other stuff
Hi thanks for your video, any other detail for another album and what do u meanLight at The End of the World:
Pod pro direct (no power amp or cab)?
Basically you use the output of the POD and put it directly into the mixing board.
Should've gone as a Line6 pod for Halloween.
I have cakewalk. I'll have to start messing with it instead of Reaper, if I can get some plugins on the cheap.
Check out my VST vid. There are a ton of free great plugins in the top comment.
Owen, I am very stoked that you are loosening up on your anti-VST stance. Toontrack makes some pretty excellent products. I use EZ Mix and EZ Drummer. They are both very user friendly and makes the creative process run smooth. Come on over to our side. It's not as wierd as you think? =}
Hehe. VST sound great on short clips. It's the long album worth of listening is when subtle digital artifacts starts to grate. Toontrack are awesome.
What guitar is that? I have an Ibanez ART300 which is that shape, but mine doesn't have Artist on the headstock. And mine is like an alligator orange.
goth broth... mmmm. (still waiting for Venom, and possibly Electric Wizard)
Hehe
I want Megadeth's early sound, especially Chris Poland's. His tone was KILLER, rounded and full but heavy, his jazz sensibility still applied to thrash. Mustaine's tone was shitty in comparison, thin, fizzy and very nails on chalkboard but somehow it worked well being balanced against Chris's....
You are so funny...thanks for the laugh..I needed that today in snowy Nova Scotia. Circle of Tone Bitch!
Thanks man.
I still have my pod 2.0 in the basement. I can get some good sounds out of it but it's a lot harder than my Kemper or just turning my Marshall head on.
Yep they mentioned that they had a killer console that the pod was going through so that's a lot tweakage plus the mellowing tape = goth broth.
Surprised at how many bands use Mesa amps through Marshall cabs. I like Marshall cabs and all but the Mesa cabs are of high quality as well.
Yep. Horses for courses. I think Mesa amp with Mesa cab is bloat on bloat. But mesa head with a more boxyish Marshall cab turns the bloat into something more manageable. The opposite is true too.
I guess a lot of my favorite tones come from digital or solid state amps. To me it doesn't matter. I'm a Helix guy. It's more convenient and cheaper than tube setups and sounds great. This goes to show you can get great tones with a lot of gear tube snobs like to sneer at.
Side note I like that you had to use vst with EMG pickups lolol. For some people that's like double krypronite
Yep. VSTears. Emg cleans ftw.
The guitar on "Bliss" by Muse sounds really heavy and is pretty much clean. I'm not entirely sure what's going on with it: I think it might be just compressed as fuck.
Do you know if that album was recorded to tape? That along with honking mixers and compression belts out the overtones.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I have no idea. The production on it is quite interesting, if a bit messy at points by today's standards.
Definitely MORE vocal stuff!
Still sounded good. If y'all have not watched it yet, watch the Carcass vid. Performance matters the most.
What carcass vid?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE th-cam.com/video/N98qiRTVXkM/w-d-xo.html not sure if the link will work. But your secret to the heartwork
Ah. I'm an idiot. Haha.
sir thank you
Cheers Chris
@@CIRCLEOFTONE very dry humor and a real guy ... keep up the great channel :)
VSTears. Thanks, I snorted into my breakfast coffee... 😂
Lol.
The true pioneers of the dirty reverb guitar sound in its current iteration were Sigur Ros, as early as 2002.
Yep. Good shout.
Idgaf about this band. I got a good laugh from the happy DI bassist. Good video.
Hehe.
Hilarious! Really! And I did not know that. And since I have no money, space, time to use real gear I use(d) the good old GX with Riffworks. Nice Ibanez BTW. Cheers!
Broke your nose in a moshpit!? RESPECT! Dude, you're my fave dude by far doing rock / metal breakdowns on youtube. Take a tip from me: you could be the authentic well researched street rocker guy taking on that mainstream buffoon Rick Beato. Don't get me wrong, I like Rick, he's smart and talented, but his vanilla mainstream palette annoys me. People will like you more if you're a bit more FORCEFUL and ENERGETIC with your presentations and choose subjects every now and then that will appeal to the masses. You know your stuff, now just confidently get in people's face a bit more with your hard won knowledge like he does.....oh, and also please do Chris Poland's tone from Megadeth. That guy's tone was KILLER! I mean seriously, early Megadeth as a three piece would have just been Dave's shrill, thin shrieky tone and erratic, scrappy lead playing....
Chris Poland is the MAN. I met him and was starstruck. Rick is great. I been a sub of his for ages.
I love Rick's vast knowledge and enthusiasm but he TOTALLY marginalises the influence and creative genius of thrash / early punk. He'll do a show on how great Blink 182 are but he refuses to acknowledge the real innovators. i think because I had a lot of respect for him in most areas that pisses me off. He left Cliff Burton off his list of great bass players, when we all complained in the comments he wrote "thrash bassists just play along with the guitarists riff..." What a douchy thing to say! Thrash was the last great innovative development in western music, we should celebrate it, not relegate it to "outsider" status @@CIRCLEOFTONE
I use VST's all the time, but then again, I'm an experimental, industrial guy. I have a ton of hardware stuff too, but the VST's are very much a tool in my belt. Not a replacement. A tool. I certainly wouldn't say that I could be anti-VST because that would take away a musician's ability to experiment with a new form of sound. I think your issue might be that not enough musicians "experiment" and just use the VST stuff as a replacement for the hardware instead of as something new and as something they could do something new with. There are still many areas in music that VST's are not a replacement for. Try to do something strange and out of the ordinary with VST's, like Power Noise, for instance. You will never, ever get it to work. Getting feedback loops to work? Nope. They sound awful. Anything really experimental? Relatively easy to hook up analog. Digital with VST's? Either you have to bend over backward, and do 10000 work arounds to get it to work, it won't sound good, most of the time, or the software won't even allow it and it will break down. The programmers design their software to prevent misuse, when a large part of music making is misusing equipment to make music or even for certain rock bands to get their unique sounds.
Is perfect for industrial. I'm a bit confused as to why there isn't a huge cyber/Industrial scene.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I was huge into the scene in the 80's. When the 90's hit, I started noticing a serious change in things. All my favorite industrial and experimental bands either broke up, or started changing their sound to this more.. analog.. thumpy.. club music kind of sound, or they went kind of.. metal. And the bands all started sounding.. similar. And the new bands that started coming out were all sounding the same as well. They got rid of the real drum sounds and the rythm sounds that sounded like metal smashing into each other for this.. analog 4/4 thump (while there are exceptions, of course). Other bands got more.. mellow and lost their edge. It was like so many of these bands decided to stop experimenting and lean more.. mainstream. The industrial scene just.. never recovered from then. It's nowhere near as diverse or interesting sounding as it was in the 80's. I think one of the main reasons is that now, everyone is doing everything with the same equipment and recording stuff digitally. Everything is snipped together perfectly with loops. Everything became loops and analog synths. You don't hear a lot of "Found Sound" in what they call industrial any more. Back then, they used tapes and mics and recording was often done by hand in crap studios or garages even, by some of those bands, having to sync tapes by ear. There's little variances in timing that make the tapes pop, that are missing in the era of precise digital recording and I hear it. Industrial suffers a LOT because of it. I really like that.. imprecision and more.. chaotic sound and recording style.
It sounds really good ! Amps are dead for sure
The answer to this question can be found on several tracks from Jeff Buckley's Grace.
This is the most Emo video on TH-cam till date...
I am pain
What? The Light at the End of the World is a fucking POD? For real? I'd never think. I mean, It does sound a bit thin, but I always thought it's just worse recorded 5150. Jesus.
Who hurt you Owen, who hurt you?
(whispers) myself
Can clean guitars sound heavy?
The only real question here is, why do you have a porg?
Because my wife is lame.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE That's fine. They weren't the worst part of the movie at any rate.
Oh, and I'm impressed with your channeling of Aaron Stainthorpe.
Thanks man.
#VSTEARS
They crash around me.
VSTears
A more recent album: th-cam.com/video/IfL91QVhhBYr/w-d-xo.html; and Martin Powell played violin on Like gods of the sun and other albums before that Yeah... Also he is known for playing on Anathema's Alternative 4 album. On the otherhand on a more less condescending note it would be fine to know how the lead guitar has setup in the above link... I love how it sounds
“The AIDS”
It may also be ebola. Whatever gets me the most sympathy.
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omg..pod farm..
Yep. It has a silent d.
Honestly it don't sound that bad lol
Thanks man. I think it sounds adequate.
Stop being a metal purist, I just realized today that even Metallica who where shitting on everything synth related in the 80 where using a Roland VG-8 on almost every damn solo on Ride the lighting and Master of puppets...at least Maiden weren't hiding the fact that they where using synths on Somewhere and Seventh son...
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Cakewalk. Yikes.
If this is a joke then fine... but you listen to only one song? These guys are one of heaviest and visceral bands out there. Ang they are not goth although they have some influences of it. They kind of always were doom/death Have a look here th-cam.com/video/6tT0LDJTOSM/w-d-xo.html
Doi.