@@upgames1313 to an extent. Matsuri is too honest for her own good. She broke down and started crying over how much she cares about Luna to the point where it is plain as day she's in love with her. Even when talking about her and her "love" for everyone else: "I love Fubuki, and I love Hoshikawa...but Luna...I love Luna in a different way...I want to hear her voice now..." Luna herself is a hard read though. She could just be playing along with Matsuri or could very well reciprocate, just not at the same level of intensity.
How quickly and easily Matsuri manages to twist the sword in the opposite direction. Luna can never keep up the offensive for long. I'm slowly learning that while Matsuri has 0 defense, she does have at least some points in evasion.
"But please collab with other members, too. Like Minecraft collab, and deepen your relation with other members. Wouldn't that be wonderful? At least I think so." tbh she often says this to new member, and this professionalism + kindness alone win my respect. In the end, she's a caring senpai for her kouhai.
And her advice and support really paid off already. Luna has been collabing with people almost non-stop for weeks now. She went on Tamaki's channel after Matsuri recommended it to her, she collabed with Marine and Subaru who she is now close to. She joined several bigger group collabs and really found her footing with her character. It seems she even invited Rushia to collab with her all on her own. That's some growth!
@@severedproxy Nah. He has made comments like that on several clips now and it's always about how he thinks Luna doesn't lose in vocal exchanges and keeps being dominant.
What really got to me was when she talked about her wish for Luna to collab with many people. It was Matsuri who helped Luna become this sociable and she is still watching over her even now. I am almost certain that when she heard that Luna barely chats with other people than her she got worried again. But she doesn't have to worry... Luna is having many collabs with all kinds of people these days and she has found her own voice on her channel. The fact that she is still so clingy with Matsuri isn't because she needs her support anymore, but because she really appreciates her that much.
It struck me a little odd as Luna was ranked rather highly on the sociability chart discussed by some members during the Holocomi event. She's probably more reserved due to her past. Then again, the chart is probably not a good indicator on this as some of the so-called introverts actively do more collabs than even Choco sensei, who is regarded as the biggest extrovert. Still, it's great to see that there's more interactions happening between members, "shy"er ones included, as well as with those outside the group.
@@lc-mx1ir Ah sure, just found it. The translated discussion clipped in 2 parts: - 1st: th-cam.com/video/VrGjlkuwdO4/w-d-xo.html , 2nd: th-cam.com/video/UH43GZH5ysQ/w-d-xo.html Luna is mentioned in the 2nd. Of course, it may just be the opinion of the members present but it's interesting how they view each other nonetheless.
@@MarsDCKC My theory based off of my own experience of being introverted it that when you actually manage to become friends with someone and actually have fun with them, you always want to be around them and talking to them, and since hololive inherently incentivizes its members to interact since they're a smaller group (at least compared to nijisanji) that the introverts really enjoy having that company while extroverts don't really crave that constant friendship since they're pretty natural in doing so maybe
Title : 6 minutes to understand Matsuri x luna Me after watching : You can add more 54 minutes and I'm still confuse what kind of relationship they currently have
From what I can gather, Luna REALLY likes Matsuri Matsuri also likes Luna, but seems to find her a little clingy. They're joking around about it, but it's clear that Luna wants a lot of her attention. Luna seems like the type of person to really latch on to one person, instead of having a big circle of friends.
@@KyokujiFGC I don't see it that way, mainly after seeing Matsuri crying of happiness from having Luna as a friend, and the fact that Luna gets along with a good chunk of hololive and has collabed with them quite a bit
Oh Matsuri. Always helping the lonely members, but when they've become accommodated, it's you who becomes alone. It's a vicious cycle born out of her selflessness, but somebody needs to do it. I respect that.
Luna : Okay, Then let me see your chat history! Matsuri : Sure, Which one do you wanna look at? Luna : ... Luna : I don't know, I never thought I would get this far...
conversation between luna and matsuri reminds me of this one comic where a 6yo girl talk to her 16yo onee-chan "i want to marry you" "yes, yes, when you get older". and then 10 years later the little girl has grown up still asking her oneechan to marry her and her onee-chan cant reject her because she still single.
Adding to everything that has already been said, I'd like to express my admiration for Luna's impeccable control over her facial expressions like the perfectly timed switch to her smiling face at 2:36. This is not done automatically by the software but is triggered by the user.
From everything I have seen, I have understood that Luna is in a relationship of dependency towards matsuri And Matsuri is worried about her and that's why she asks her to collaborate with others besides her.
And to Fubuki. Aqua aswell. There was PPteshi's. I still love towa-sama. She wore band aid for a whole day. Almost got her PE teacher fired. That's the Matsuri I know.
I like the way how mastsuri be gentle and think for others. She wants Luna to collab to other members to deepen relation,that means she hopes Luna can be better than now. Matsuri is really really gentle to girls.
I feel like Luna is one of the person Matsuri felt like not tainting with her degeneracy. Its nice to see it this way though, the way she acts too formally is refreshing for some reason. Although I always love her for what she is. 😂😊
Man, one can only wish their relationship is genuine, and that they are really good friends off stream too. I don't know why but I feel like Matsuri IRL has some kind of problem that Hololive's companionship is mending. Same for Luna, we all know she hasn't had a nice enough career yet, but she's starting to build a stable flooring here in Hololive. I really hope to see more of them, they are way too wholesome together...
I’m sorry but there love for one another is just way to much to take in I’ve always seen Matsuri as the swearing breaking things kind of girl wile Luna is just the shy timid girl who is always sleepy and clingy and I mean that in a good way this was way to cute and the music was perfect
Waifu Luna: I know you say "I love you" to others and you lie alot but I know you mean it when you say it to me M: I don't say it that much with others as I do with you Waifu Luna: LEMME SEE YOUR CHAT HISTORY M: Sure go ahead Waifu Luna: LOOK AT ALL OF THESE "I LOVE YOUS" M: Luna....guess what. I LOVE YOU x100 Waifu Luna: >.> Well Played.
There is no such thing. They don't get "assigned" to anything or anyone. Matsuri is just like this, she always helps out her kouhai. She also did this for Haato of the same generation. It's in her nature to help out those who have trouble collabing. They ended up becoming good friends because of this, so that's why they still hang out a lot.
Luna has the biggest lore. You see. Her character has so much development. She’s a troubled princess wanted the warmth and love from others. Recognition to the fullest! I’m waiting for the part where she goes full yandere and kills all the other Hololive members. 😏
The flirting is played up, but they are really good friends offline as well. I think it helped that Matsuri reached out to Luna when she just joined Hololive and consistently collabed with her for quite a bit.
![Sena Slams Her Desk When Matsuri Proposes to Hoshikawa [VSPO/Hololive/Nijisanji]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aN-zuTzKnes/mqdefault.jpg)
Luna's angry face is so extremely funny to me but I can't even tell why
Same energy as the the stuffed bear putting on angry eyes by slamming down into sticky note eyebrows.
its the same as pissing off a 4 year old
Gives me Luna had never seen such bullshit before vibes
The same way >:( might be funny
It’s just... unexplainable
Nice profile pic
11 days later : *unfaithful girlfriend was blown up by local princess*
Witnesses reported that said unfaithful girlfriend was last seen screaming before death a particular name.
u got that wrong masturi is *god*
Fetus*
@@xenzorYT deletus
Luna sounds like a girl in a bad relationship. "She lies to me a lot, but I know her love is real nanora"
everyone is so cheerful for their teetee while this keeps bothering me tbh
@@foxflox Dont believe everything on the internet...
@@foxflox they're playing characters it's not a problem
A boy*
@@upgames1313 to an extent. Matsuri is too honest for her own good. She broke down and started crying over how much she cares about Luna to the point where it is plain as day she's in love with her. Even when talking about her and her "love" for everyone else: "I love Fubuki, and I love Hoshikawa...but Luna...I love Luna in a different way...I want to hear her voice now..."
Luna herself is a hard read though. She could just be playing along with Matsuri or could very well reciprocate, just not at the same level of intensity.
2:24 love the glimpse of panic from Luna's face lol
That was funny as hell, lol
How quickly and easily Matsuri manages to twist the sword in the opposite direction. Luna can never keep up the offensive for long. I'm slowly learning that while Matsuri has 0 defense, she does have at least some points in evasion.
>:( to >:o
That expression is hilarious.
What's running through her head: Oh no! I have nanora~
"But please collab with other members, too. Like Minecraft collab, and deepen your relation with other members. Wouldn't that be wonderful? At least I think so."
tbh she often says this to new member, and this professionalism + kindness alone win my respect. In the end, she's a caring senpai for her kouhai.
And her advice and support really paid off already. Luna has been collabing with people almost non-stop for weeks now. She went on Tamaki's channel after Matsuri recommended it to her, she collabed with Marine and Subaru who she is now close to. She joined several bigger group collabs and really found her footing with her character. It seems she even invited Rushia to collab with her all on her own. That's some growth!
She's both crude and caring, the most wholesome vtuber
Im veryy much glad she is doing collabs with other vtuber Matsuri is a epitome of a big caring sister
That pointless Luna lie lmfao, there was even a pause there.
im glad to see u again lol
Matsuri: "And what do you do when I'm out?
Luna: "Wait for you to come back"
Tamaki is the best bro, Hoshikawa is the major crush, Fubuki is the waifu. I still have no idea where to place Luna, even after watching this video.
That-one-clingy-girl-that-i-have-questionable-feelings-with category.
@@yvastel8153 that-one-girl-i-flirted-with-for-shits-and-giggles-and-is-now-head-over-heels-for-me
Luna is inevitable
*aijin*
Clingy kouhai
luna continues to surprise me as the one on top in the clips i watch
Yah, many people dislike her at first, but she has arguably the best clips and moments, which makes people eventually like her.
I wouldn't say Luna was really on top in this conversation. Matsuri controlled it quite well. Deflecting, poking and shifting however it suits her.
@@yoursonisold8743 I think he meant that Luna is the top vtuber that he watches clips of, not that she was on top of the conversation.
@@severedproxy Nah. He has made comments like that on several clips now and it's always about how he thinks Luna doesn't lose in vocal exchanges and keeps being dominant.
@@yoursonisold8743 I see, thanks for clearing that up. Didn't know he was posting it in a lot of clips. Anyhoo, have a good day.
It’s cool how everyone is getting along pretty well and a lot of collabs lately . Surprisingly Luna and Matsuri are TeTe~ but in a weird way.
If you've been following Luna recently, it's not really surprising tbh.
I need more Haatame!
MATSURI USING LUNA TO COPE WITH HER FEELINGS FROM HOSHIKAWA MAN
THESE TWO ARE HOPELESS
yeh, really fresh
What really got to me was when she talked about her wish for Luna to collab with many people. It was Matsuri who helped Luna become this sociable and she is still watching over her even now. I am almost certain that when she heard that Luna barely chats with other people than her she got worried again. But she doesn't have to worry... Luna is having many collabs with all kinds of people these days and she has found her own voice on her channel. The fact that she is still so clingy with Matsuri isn't because she needs her support anymore, but because she really appreciates her that much.
It struck me a little odd as Luna was ranked rather highly on the sociability chart discussed by some members during the Holocomi event. She's probably more reserved due to her past.
Then again, the chart is probably not a good indicator on this as some of the so-called introverts actively do more collabs than even Choco sensei, who is regarded as the biggest extrovert. Still, it's great to see that there's more interactions happening between members, "shy"er ones included, as well as with those outside the group.
@@MarsDCKC link for rank? I know pekora is pretty shy tho and korone
@@lc-mx1ir Ah sure, just found it. The translated discussion clipped in 2 parts: - 1st: th-cam.com/video/VrGjlkuwdO4/w-d-xo.html , 2nd: th-cam.com/video/UH43GZH5ysQ/w-d-xo.html
Luna is mentioned in the 2nd.
Of course, it may just be the opinion of the members present but it's interesting how they view each other nonetheless.
@@MarsDCKC My theory based off of my own experience of being introverted it that when you actually manage to become friends with someone and actually have fun with them, you always want to be around them and talking to them, and since hololive inherently incentivizes its members to interact since they're a smaller group (at least compared to nijisanji) that the introverts really enjoy having that company while extroverts don't really crave that constant friendship since they're pretty natural in doing so maybe
@@MarsDCKC thank you very much brother
Was promised 6 minutes, only received 5:56, I demand compensation
In the form of more Luna x Matsuri videos
Title : 6 minutes to understand Matsuri x luna
Me after watching : You can add more 54 minutes and I'm still confuse what kind of relationship they currently have
From what I can gather, Luna REALLY likes Matsuri
Matsuri also likes Luna, but seems to find her a little clingy. They're joking around about it, but it's clear that Luna wants a lot of her attention.
Luna seems like the type of person to really latch on to one person, instead of having a big circle of friends.
Add more 10 hours
@@KyokujiFGC I don't see it that way, mainly after seeing Matsuri crying of happiness from having Luna as a friend, and the fact that Luna gets along with a good chunk of hololive and has collabed with them quite a bit
I'm melting at how cute Luna is being, and Matsuri's worried responses trying to get her to make friends.
I love that when Matsuri says Hoshikawa at 1:57 or so, Luna just freezes.
Luna: *New target acquired*
Luna's face at 2:25
lmao
I've become a huge ChocoSubaLuna fan but I miss these days
Her : i love you
Me : *happy*
Also me : *realize she says that to everyone*
Me Again : *sad with deppression*
Oh Matsuri. Always helping the lonely members, but when they've become accommodated, it's you who becomes alone. It's a vicious cycle born out of her selflessness, but somebody needs to do it. I respect that.
Luna really love Matsuri didn't she
The first person ever who loves Matsuri and not waiting for Matsuri to attack first
i love the relationship of these two, great comedy value.
In the past month I've really started to like Luna a lot more. The whole Luna and Matsuri storyline is really entertaining.
it just hit me that Luna's playing Pachelbel's Canon as her stream BGM lol
Luna : Okay, Then let me see your chat history!
Matsuri : Sure, Which one do you wanna look at?
Luna : ...
Luna : I don't know, I never thought I would get this far...
can we just appreciate how he translated this part 2:15 - 2:24 I can't even hear her properly man
Lmao Luna-chan's avatar is so expressive
conversation between luna and matsuri reminds me of this one comic where a 6yo girl talk to her 16yo onee-chan "i want to marry you" "yes, yes, when you get older". and then 10 years later the little girl has grown up still asking her oneechan to marry her and her onee-chan cant reject her because she still single.
Sauce?
Its been 2 years,i still need the sauce
Give me same feeling when im talking online with some random dude who put on role-play on VR chat....very good fun time.
2:03 Luna's smile: Gone. Reduced to atoms.
Adding to everything that has already been said, I'd like to express my admiration for Luna's impeccable control over her facial expressions like the perfectly timed switch to her smiling face at 2:36. This is not done automatically by the software but is triggered by the user.
yeah, after atching many of her streams I'm still really impressed at how well timed her expressions are.
From everything I have seen, I have understood that Luna is in a relationship of dependency towards matsuri
And Matsuri is worried about her and that's why she asks her to collaborate with others besides her.
Wow, looking back at these videos. I can confidently say that Matsuri sure changed a lot. She became cuter
And to Fubuki. Aqua aswell. There was PPteshi's. I still love towa-sama. She wore band aid for a whole day. Almost got her PE teacher fired. That's the Matsuri I know.
2:25 Best part ever, just how smooth her expression can be changed.
*OUR WORLD OUR SERVER OUR MINECRAFT*
_USSR INTESIFE NOISE_
I really enjoy the clips of matsuri and Luna collabs, they have a little chemistry, those two
2:25 perfect moment jajaja
Matsuri’s being unusually chill. That scares me.
I really love seeing the fourth gen members flying with their own wings. Also, Matsuri and Luna collabs bring some needed freshness to hololive.
I think even if I understand Japanese, I will still not understand what Luna says.
Lmao 😂
yeh her lisp sounds very confusing to me
and I don't speak japanese either
I love how Luna was surprised how matsuri like yup check my history, right away without fighting it at all
I just realised that the bgm is Canon in D. One of my favorite Piano piece.
2:53 Haato on suicide watch
Luna is so precious
2:25 hahahahahahaha her face😂😂
Stand user: Luna
Stand name: Otari no World
4:58 can we talk about this, I had an actual LOL
I like the way how mastsuri be gentle and think for others.
She wants Luna to collab to other members to deepen relation,that means she hopes Luna can be better than now.
Matsuri is really really gentle to girls.
I feel like Luna is one of the person Matsuri felt like not tainting with her degeneracy. Its nice to see it this way though, the way she acts too formally is refreshing for some reason. Although I always love her for what she is. 😂😊
Is it possible to not ship something but still find the banter adorable?
Man, one can only wish their relationship is genuine, and that they are really good friends off stream too. I don't know why but I feel like Matsuri IRL has some kind of problem that Hololive's companionship is mending. Same for Luna, we all know she hasn't had a nice enough career yet, but she's starting to build a stable flooring here in Hololive.
I really hope to see more of them, they are way too wholesome together...
The dynamic between Matsuri and Luna never fails to entertain. Also, I'm not quite sure why, but I really like Luna's angry expression.
My heart just healing with this
Right off the bat Matsuri's AFK face kills me
I don´t know why but what I got from this is that Matsuri would be a great mother.
I honestly think so too !
04:35 in particular
I like how the shape of Matsuri's eyes make it look like she's permanently fed up with Luna.
1:54 as beautiful
Luna's face in 2:24 is priceless
I am convinced that matsuri is just a babysitter and doesn't give a fuck about the love of luna
I like how even at the beginning of the video, Matsuri's face is frozen on Lenny.
There was a very split second where I mistook the shield for a ravine and got anxiety. Got some Minecraft survival flashbacks right there
i'm slowly getting used to Luna's baby voice XD
I’m sorry but there love for one another is just way to much to take in I’ve always seen Matsuri as the swearing breaking things kind of girl wile Luna is just the shy timid girl who is always sleepy and clingy and I mean that in a good way this was way to cute and the music was perfect
Waifu Luna: I know you say "I love you" to others and you lie alot but I know you mean it when you say it to me
M: I don't say it that much with others as I do with you
Waifu Luna: LEMME SEE YOUR CHAT HISTORY
M: Sure go ahead
Waifu Luna: LOOK AT ALL OF THESE "I LOVE YOUS"
M: Luna....guess what. I LOVE YOU x100
Waifu Luna: >.> Well Played.
After this episode I can see why Matsuri is going to winning son bar often
2:03
5:00
Less than 30 seconds and I've got diabetes already.
this is the best ship after matsufubu
Looking back, i think their interaction is rather predator-prey
@stab_me_pls best matsuri ship I guess
The adorable princess of sweets and the high-cultured everygirl. It's like straight out of a yuri anime.
Later, Matsuri suffered divine punishment.
I laugh so hard when lunas get mad 😂
the thing that you probably here for 2:02
5:03
Luna: *>:c*
Matsuri: *:D*
Honestly I see this as matsuri is the big sis and luna is the little sis, however Luna has a sister complex.....
Eh I'm prob the only one
no I understand what you mean
Matsuri very much seems to be the mature one and Luna the clingy one always nagging her
i love her effort to confince matsuri that she didnt chat other women
Matsuri aka Luna Babysitter
she should've ask for superchat history instead.. lol
Well I think this ordeal will end in a nice boat.
ive been guessing this but im quite certain, matsuri is the mentor assigned to luna
There is no such thing. They don't get "assigned" to anything or anyone. Matsuri is just like this, she always helps out her kouhai. She also did this for Haato of the same generation. It's in her nature to help out those who have trouble collabing. They ended up becoming good friends because of this, so that's why they still hang out a lot.
That look doe
Luna has the biggest lore.
You see. Her character has so much development. She’s a troubled princess wanted the warmth and love from others. Recognition to the fullest!
I’m waiting for the part where she goes full yandere and kills all the other Hololive members. 😏
2:25 “shit, how did she find out nora?”
Man, those shaders are pretty
Luna rely on Matsuri too much, some people worry she can't stand on big stage by herself
If Matsuri wasn't Matsuri this could be the best wholesome couple ever
Matauri had put Luna in a friend zone.
I jus fell into hololive..what got me are these two & the rabbit comedian
I feel like Luna is a simp for Matsuri :
Matsuri the pimp of holo
Remember the one sided relationship of Matsuri and Hoshikawa? This feels the same.
Watching this feels like 2 couples fighting because both of them cheated on each other XD
She Can Jealous Too 🤣
Luna is Matsuri's unpaid child labourer
The Nnnaaaaaa KILLS MEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH XXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Matsuri looks high.
Is there any particular reason why Luna is so attached to Matsuri?
she did say matsuri is the best girlfriend candidate in her list, other than that i dont know
could be a case of Luna being a fan of her, Matsuri has been at it since 2018.
The flirting is played up, but they are really good friends offline as well. I think it helped that Matsuri reached out to Luna when she just joined Hololive and consistently collabed with her for quite a bit.
@@ying0878 Sure but wasn't Luna really happy that Matsuri kissed her? Then again, I guess it's normal for Matsuri...
@@freshwatershad i would agree with her
All a man wants is to pinch Luna's cheeks and buy her sweets. Brothers & Sisters how do I break this spell that Princess Hime has cast upon me.
The jealousy is strong in this one
4:58 :D
4:59 D:
I love you...
and all you guys
AWWW!! 😍😍😍💖💖💖