I'm glad you like my videos. Yes indeed, foilers are very tricky to sail and all that just for a little bit of extra speed. It takes o much practice to have the boat somewhat under control and even then the conditions that I would consider fun are limited. If you are not willing to spend most of your days in a wetsuit trying to tame the beast you'r better off with an F18. If you are a mixed team, dreaming the olympic dream, Nacra 17 it is.
@@born2sail I'm 63 now and too old for that. Although I'd give anything to crew for an afternoon on one....provided the skipper knew what he was doing! I've already taken too many trips around the forestay! Being on the wire while foiling must be an astonishing ride. Much smoother than a traditional cat, I assume. I think at this point I'd be fine simply sailing the Prindle 18 off the beach. Keep it simple yet, still fast.
At some point you have to learn it. Most capsizes are from our first year of foiling. It's not comparable with normal sailing. What boat are you sailing?
@@born2sail Well I agree, it would take a lot of skill. I sail (usually single-handed) an old boring Hobie 18 (really not that boring, but not a foiler). But that's one reason I'm saying, why use the spinnaker when you're learning, and it;s just billowing all over the place not, efficient, and giving you too much of a bow-down attitude, but also pulling you over instead of driving you forward? I used to rail against all the dumb Hobie 16 and 18 videos that would show people heeling way up high or plowing through the water with 2 people out on the trapeze. In both cases, the boat is plowing and going like crap, not anywhere near it's performance ability. Some people seem to think that's impressive or how you sail a cat (not saying you do).
@@windwardpro Thank you for your comment. I have asked you the question of which boat you are sailing, not to challenge your competence, but to understand why you think that way. Now that I know that you sail a boat with straight boards it does make sense. A foiler does behave completely different from your boat. If have sailed an F18 and a C-board Nacra before I switched to the foiler. I had not one single capsize in the 200+ sailing days before the first day on the foiler. In fact the whole video is about me figuring out the different behavior when a boat starts to lift out of the water. Let me tell you, not pulling the kite is no real option. The speed without it on a reach is insane. You need well developed reflexes to try it, but you will exceed 30+ knots and if things gor wrong it does hurt. On a foiler you don't have a safety option. Most of the capsizes above are because I tried to slow down the boat by bearing away, just slightly but enough that boat heels over to windward. Centrifugal forces are quite intense and it needs practice to "sever" your arm from the rest of the body if you know what I mean. After a while you are getting used to it and then you know that bearing away to loose pressure is not a good option. A good friend of mine once told me: " A foiler does make some strange things, just learn to deal with it." His name was Mitch Booth. Please also consider, that I had to learn how to sail the boat properly to be competitive, doesn't look good in the beginning but it made me finish in the top 10 at Kieler Week. And capsizes are fun to watch 😉 You can also watch part 2 for more "advanced" capsizes. (But some of them are still very dumb, but such things happen...) th-cam.com/video/UYH7d2fLUG8/w-d-xo.html
@@born2sail That's interesting. So your saying the jib would be faster than the kite? I guess that makes sense with the efficiency and how the jib creates a slot.
@@windwardpro With the kite you sail a much lower angle and you have a better VMG. But in absolute digits sailing without it is faster. I had this enlightenment when I once was in the RIB following an MK1 Nacra. Downwind feels faster than it is. Ok it's a bit different with foiling but as long as you have the feeling that you have control over the boat it's okay.
More speed, more capsizes and better quality! Here is Part 2: th-cam.com/video/UYH7d2fLUG8/w-d-xo.html
Wow, you're super! Video montage huge respect!
Thank you very much! You can find part 2 here: th-cam.com/video/UYH7d2fLUG8/w-d-xo.html
4:40 ah that's where I left it 😂
Schöne Dinger bei!!
Super!!!
I will upload a new Capsizes | Fails | Impacts Video if this Video gets 5000 Views. Keep watching! You are awesome!
I've owned 4 cats and sailed another 10. But never one with foils. From this video, they appear to be very finicky!
I'm glad you like my videos. Yes indeed, foilers are very tricky to sail and all that just for a little bit of extra speed. It takes o much practice to have the boat somewhat under control and even then the conditions that I would consider fun are limited. If you are not willing to spend most of your days in a wetsuit trying to tame the beast you'r better off with an F18. If you are a mixed team, dreaming the olympic dream, Nacra 17 it is.
@@born2sail I'm 63 now and too old for that. Although I'd give anything to crew for an afternoon on one....provided the skipper knew what he was doing! I've already taken too many trips around the forestay! Being on the wire while foiling must be an astonishing ride. Much smoother than a traditional cat, I assume. I think at this point I'd be fine simply sailing the Prindle 18 off the beach. Keep it simple yet, still fast.
toll, dass ihr Fehler auch zeigt, schaut schon gefährlich aus...
Bis jetzt ist zum Glück nichts passiert und je länger wir segeln desto weniger oft gibt es auch "Fails".
@@born2sail ja gottseidank 👍
This is dumb. Looks like they'd be way better off with a jib. Not much stable sailing going on there.
At some point you have to learn it. Most capsizes are from our first year of foiling. It's not comparable with normal sailing. What boat are you sailing?
@@born2sail Well I agree, it would take a lot of skill. I sail (usually single-handed) an old boring Hobie 18 (really not that boring, but not a foiler).
But that's one reason I'm saying, why use the spinnaker when you're learning, and it;s just billowing all over the place not, efficient, and giving you too much of a bow-down attitude, but also pulling you over instead of driving you forward?
I used to rail against all the dumb Hobie 16 and 18 videos that would show people heeling way up high or plowing through the water with 2 people out on the trapeze.
In both cases, the boat is plowing and going like crap, not anywhere near it's performance ability. Some people seem to think that's impressive or how you sail a cat (not saying you do).
@@windwardpro Thank you for your comment. I have asked you the question of which boat you are sailing, not to challenge your competence, but to understand why you think that way. Now that I know that you sail a boat with straight boards it does make sense. A foiler does behave completely different from your boat. If have sailed an F18 and a C-board Nacra before I switched to the foiler. I had not one single capsize in the 200+ sailing days before the first day on the foiler. In fact the whole video is about me figuring out the different behavior when a boat starts to lift out of the water.
Let me tell you, not pulling the kite is no real option. The speed without it on a reach is insane. You need well developed reflexes to try it, but you will exceed 30+ knots and if things gor wrong it does hurt. On a foiler you don't have a safety option. Most of the capsizes above are because I tried to slow down the boat by bearing away, just slightly but enough that boat heels over to windward. Centrifugal forces are quite intense and it needs practice to "sever" your arm from the rest of the body if you know what I mean. After a while you are getting used to it and then you know that bearing away to loose pressure is not a good option. A good friend of mine once told me: " A foiler does make some strange things, just learn to deal with it." His name was Mitch Booth.
Please also consider, that I had to learn how to sail the boat properly to be competitive, doesn't look good in the beginning but it made me finish in the top 10 at Kieler Week. And capsizes are fun to watch 😉 You can also watch part 2 for more "advanced" capsizes. (But some of them are still very dumb, but such things happen...) th-cam.com/video/UYH7d2fLUG8/w-d-xo.html
@@born2sail That's interesting. So your saying the jib would be faster than the kite? I guess that makes sense with the efficiency and how the jib creates a slot.
@@windwardpro With the kite you sail a much lower angle and you have a better VMG. But in absolute digits sailing without it is faster. I had this enlightenment when I once was in the RIB following an MK1 Nacra. Downwind feels faster than it is. Ok it's a bit different with foiling but as long as you have the feeling that you have control over the boat it's okay.