Just realized this but when Flynn got Amos’s name wrong the whole movie that was a tactic. Flynn was able to get Amos in a good mood and on his side immediately by calling him his real name.
And then when Amos does what Flynn wants and steps away, Flynn calls him Andy again. Showing that Flynn doesn’t care about Amos at all anymore, he’s just a pawn in Flynn’s game like all the others.
@@lucygarrett9785he is such an asshole and a weasel. Amos is such a sad and victimized and used character in this show. He’s the only good person except maybe the Hungarian ballerina.
@@lucygarrett9785 Flynn ‘forgets’ someone’s name to hint to them that they’re not important to him at that moment. He does the same with Roxie and calls her ‘Trixie’ when Kitty Baxter steals the attention from her
Probably because the people voting on the awards were heavily biased against musicals and at that time were extremely obsessed with Holocaust narratives. Not to say that Holocaust stories aren't important media, but that they were a golden ticket to Oscar success for about a 30 year period (of which this film was in the peak of that era).
He wasn’t even nominated for this performance. It would have been great if he was…then all 4 acting categories would have nominations for Chicago Renee Zellweger:Best Actress Catherine Zeta-Jones:Best Supporting Actress (won) Queen Latifah: Best Supporting Actress John C Reilly: Best Supporting Actor
@@jonathanbowers8964 Not true at all; one of the greatest Oscar snubs of the last forty years was Ralph Fiennes losing Best Supporting Actor for his role in Schindler's List to Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.
@@jonathanbowers8964 no idea where you're getting that from. Chicago won best picture and Zeta-Jones won best supporting actress that year. Hardly sounds like bias against musicals.
She really was. I feel bad for Amos more than almost anyone else in the movie. He was willing to do everything for her, lie for her, and what was his reward? Being treated like a chump and an inconvenience so she could be a star. She cheats on her husband for fun and because she wasn't living the life she wanted. Tries to badly lie to get away with killing a dude who was just a lying sack of shit but not much else. And not only gets away with murder but teams up to work with someone else just so they can use their murder cases to get into the limelight and perform
Fred Casely is played by the same guy who plays Prince Charles in the Crown so in all reality we should all be thanking Roxie for taking out King Chuck.
It's so frustrating because it would've worked so well, really showing how a courtroom can be a circus while also showing what Arthur see's. It makes so much sense.
Especially considering that his co-stars were all nominated: *Renée Zellweger* (Best Actress), *Catherine Zeta-Jones* (Supporting Actress), *Queen Latifah* (Supporting Actress), *John C. Reilly* (Supporting Actor). In total, *_Chicago_* (2002) received 13 *Oscar* nominations, including *Best Picture* and *Best Director.* Therefore, *Richard Gere* was totally snubbed! Furthermore, *Jerry Orbach* who played *'Billy Flynn'* in the original 1975 *Broadway* production was nominated for a *Tony,* as was *James Naughton* in the 1996 revival. Across the pond, *Ben Cross* was nominated for an *Olivier* for the 1979 *London* production, as was *Henry Goodman* in the 1997 revival.
He was testing her poor eyesight ("How many fingers am I holding up?") to discredit her as an eyewitness. She was Roxie's landlady who saw her bring Fred home and be flirty with him on the night of his murder, even though Roxie told the police that he was a random burglar whom she had shot in self-defense.
@@VinMar-m6w Huh, that explains it quite well. That confused me for the longest time. And rewatching it now, I noticed at least one of the showgirls (maybe more of them?) is holding up a different number of fingers than Billy and everyone else (holding up 2 when the rest are holding up 3). Wonder if that was intentional (to show how the witness is being screwed with), or if that one showgirl kinda whiffed it?
Yes, that 'finger' test is one of the oldest lawyer tricks in the book. Eyewitness testimony has been proven to be very unreliable compared to physical evidence and sadly, many innocent people have been convicted based on unreliable witness testimony. The job of the lawyer is to try and discredit witness testimony.
@@mahmamia5100Nice theory! I thought maybe they try to portray how the dizziness (which is from her short-eyesighted) was, By showing a few of Real and false Number fingers from the dancers and Billy Himself.
Oh Fosse...always the cynic. He's like the Machiavelli of movement, cutting through the moral pretentions to get to the ugly, visceral truth of the thing. They say in law school that if you don't have the facts, argue the law. And if you don't have the law, argue the facts. But what if you have neither? That's when you break out the Razzle Dazzle, the thing they don't teach you in law school, but that can win cases, nevertheless.
Yes, so true. As deeply entertained as I was with Trump being found guilty of an election interference felony simply because he gifted his ex lover money to not disclose their affair when he was still a private citizen to the public. It's just that with Trump, it's Chicago in reverse!
Is it though? We all live in stories and narratives. If you can craft it and control it, you have some ability to persuaded others. Why would a law court be any better?
@@SiiriCressey What something should be on paper and what it is in reality are two different things. Would it be nice if courtrooms were places of honestly and finding the truth? Yes it would be, and it is something to aim for. But don't kid yourself that they are immune to such tactics.
Trump would be a case of life imitating art. The big bamboozlea and the old flim flam flummox. Who, in their right mind, would ever think that an ex president would be found guilty of an election interference felony simply because he gifted his ex lover money to not disclose their affair when he was still a private citizen to the public? It's just plain insanity!
thats only show playboy master richard gere most iconic show yes razzle dazzle girls crawl feet give one diamond second perfume here go darling razzle dazzle jury art lies charmmake judge grtaest event history actor can be shiny man diamond want girls fkynns clapdance party shes defend both hold gun crazy head make tricks free bird billy flyn advocate want win case must heff sth pro brillaint song realmagician billy flynn
Just realized this but when Flynn got Amos’s name wrong the whole movie that was a tactic. Flynn was able to get Amos in a good mood and on his side immediately by calling him his real name.
And then when Amos does what Flynn wants and steps away, Flynn calls him Andy again. Showing that Flynn doesn’t care about Amos at all anymore, he’s just a pawn in Flynn’s game like all the others.
@@lucygarrett9785he is such an asshole and a weasel. Amos is such a sad and victimized and used character in this show. He’s the only good person except maybe the Hungarian ballerina.
@@lucygarrett9785 Flynn ‘forgets’ someone’s name to hint to them that they’re not important to him at that moment. He does the same with Roxie and calls her ‘Trixie’ when Kitty Baxter steals the attention from her
That's so sick. 😂
I just PEEPED lmaoo 😭 he’s so manipulative
“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”
― W.C. Fields
And we how know how some jurors are more than willingly to buy and swallow the load of bullshit that defense lawyers cooked up for them.
Hahahaha! Good one!
My Mom always said that!
Kinda like politics today
He's not wrong, unfortunately.
2:32 The reverse cut to Amos with the dazzler lady appearing besides him is the funniest shot ever
All that effort on the costume and makeup for 1 second lmao
Kind of agree. Best detail of the song.
@@chainofheaven She was likely performing every other scene with the dancers
100% symbolism for the manipulation he does lol
It's my favorite moment in this scene 😂❤, thanks for the time stamp
The actor playing Amos is brilliant.
This was the first movie I saw John C. Reilly in. It did not prepare me for the rest of his filmography.
Hachiko is still waiting for him.
you have no idea about John C Riley yet
@@ryancox4498same. And I love him in everything I've seen from him since
@@ryancox4498 absolutely, same! Was really confused when i saw him in Tim and Eric years later ha ha
...and they "dazzled" us with the whole production!❤Awesome movie!!
Richard Gere is eye candy 😉, and he can sing too...Love it 😎👍.
And that sexy man learned how to tap dance for this film!!! 10/10!!!!
Eye candy?…..Even with that pesky gerbil rumor?😂
Seems I need to watch the movie
@@TheMissuz82 you realize that's an urban legend (i.e. untrue).
Love how the showgirls come through the Jury like jungle cats. " roar ROAR!"
How is it Richard Gere didn't win an Oscar for this performance?
Probably because the people voting on the awards were heavily biased against musicals and at that time were extremely obsessed with Holocaust narratives. Not to say that Holocaust stories aren't important media, but that they were a golden ticket to Oscar success for about a 30 year period (of which this film was in the peak of that era).
he spoke out against China's treatment of Tibet and was blacklisted. the academy didn't want to upset such a big market.
He wasn’t even nominated for this performance.
It would have been great if he was…then all 4 acting categories would have nominations for Chicago
Renee Zellweger:Best Actress
Catherine Zeta-Jones:Best Supporting Actress (won)
Queen Latifah: Best Supporting Actress
John C Reilly: Best Supporting Actor
@@jonathanbowers8964 Not true at all; one of the greatest Oscar snubs of the last forty years was Ralph Fiennes losing Best Supporting Actor for his role in Schindler's List to Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.
@@jonathanbowers8964 no idea where you're getting that from. Chicago won best picture and Zeta-Jones won best supporting actress that year. Hardly sounds like bias against musicals.
Death Battle: Saul Goodman vs. Billy Flynn
Nah, I'd rather see an ERB lol
But make it Dangonrompa style
The jury could not handle the power of these two arguing against each other
@@ethanlivemere1162the courtroom would just explode with both of those drama queens inside
Razzle dazzle and mr cellophane were the stars of this movie
i love the use of aerial artist in this. as a aerialist myself i love to see how we are involved in big productions like this
No one really talks about this, but in all seriousness... Roxie was an awful person 😂
She really was. I feel bad for Amos more than almost anyone else in the movie. He was willing to do everything for her, lie for her, and what was his reward? Being treated like a chump and an inconvenience so she could be a star.
She cheats on her husband for fun and because she wasn't living the life she wanted. Tries to badly lie to get away with killing a dude who was just a lying sack of shit but not much else. And not only gets away with murder but teams up to work with someone else just so they can use their murder cases to get into the limelight and perform
@@jefferycrouse4652I'm guessing the one you feel worst for is the Hungarian woman
@@roymackenzie-jy4lr Yeah, I felt awful for her.
@artemis2520 and my mother is Hungarian, so it's worse
It kind of goes without saying, she was a murderer
I love his sparkly suit
I totally agree. His best performance ever.
Richard Gere is fabby in fact they all are❤life lesson give en the ole razzle Dazzle😅
A perfect picture of our court of law in reality.
Just look at what happened in the Simpson trial, and many more.
@@TheXmeimei Billy Flynn is the master of the Chewbacca defence
The American legal system was not created to be fair. It was setup for what you can afford.
That’s what Joker 2 needed to be. A real trial/musical.
There is Hanyak woman with bandage over her eyes, representing and performig the Blind Justice😂
Omg I love this film and never caught that! Brillaint
What does "hanyak woman" mean?
@@ania99993 They mean 'Hunyak'. That's the nickname of the Hungarian woman who gets falsely convicted and hanged
*The problem is that Society decided that this wasn't entertainment, this was a how-to instructional video!*
I'm pretty sure this was based on actual issues in the system in the 20s. Maybe even an actual case.
Gentleman and a soldier
Fred Casely is played by the same guy who plays Prince Charles in the Crown so in all reality we should all be thanking Roxie for taking out King Chuck.
He was also McNulty on The wire
Lol Joker 2 want so bad to be this
It's so frustrating because it would've worked so well, really showing how a courtroom can be a circus while also showing what Arthur see's. It makes so much sense.
Wanted to be mr cellophane but failed miserably😂
Trial of the decade coming up, watching this again in preparation
Richard Gere not being at the very least nominated for an Oscar for this is one of biggest snubs ever.
Especially considering that his co-stars were all nominated: *Renée Zellweger* (Best Actress), *Catherine Zeta-Jones* (Supporting Actress), *Queen Latifah* (Supporting Actress), *John C. Reilly* (Supporting Actor). In total, *_Chicago_* (2002) received 13 *Oscar* nominations, including *Best Picture* and *Best Director.* Therefore, *Richard Gere* was totally snubbed!
Furthermore, *Jerry Orbach* who played *'Billy Flynn'* in the original 1975 *Broadway* production was nominated for a *Tony,* as was *James Naughton* in the 1996 revival. Across the pond, *Ben Cross* was nominated for an *Olivier* for the 1979 *London* production, as was *Henry Goodman* in the 1997 revival.
Gere was not liked for his political views. Hence the snub. That's been going on in Hollywood since the 1930's.
Him along with john c reilly
Love this film. 1 of my favourites. ❤👏👏😊
Richard Gere is amazing
0:43 and why is this so friking funny?!
It's amazing choreo.
Retail workers UNITE!!! hahahaha And I don't on commission, just make them laugh!
Some of Richard Gears best work
Can someone please explain the 0:56 hand sign?
He was testing her poor eyesight ("How many fingers am I holding up?") to discredit her as an eyewitness. She was Roxie's landlady who saw her bring Fred home and be flirty with him on the night of his murder, even though Roxie told the police that he was a random burglar whom she had shot in self-defense.
Oh Never thought of it. Thank you very much!
@@VinMar-m6w Huh, that explains it quite well. That confused me for the longest time.
And rewatching it now, I noticed at least one of the showgirls (maybe more of them?) is holding up a different number of fingers than Billy and everyone else (holding up 2 when the rest are holding up 3). Wonder if that was intentional (to show how the witness is being screwed with), or if that one showgirl kinda whiffed it?
Yes, that 'finger' test is one of the oldest lawyer tricks in the book. Eyewitness testimony has been proven to be very unreliable compared to physical evidence and sadly, many innocent people have been convicted based on unreliable witness testimony.
The job of the lawyer is to try and discredit witness testimony.
@@mahmamia5100Nice theory! I thought maybe they try to portray how the dizziness (which is from her short-eyesighted) was, By showing a few of Real and false Number fingers from the dancers and Billy Himself.
Oh Fosse...always the cynic. He's like the Machiavelli of movement, cutting through the moral pretentions to get to the ugly, visceral truth of the thing. They say in law school that if you don't have the facts, argue the law. And if you don't have the law, argue the facts. But what if you have neither? That's when you break out the Razzle Dazzle, the thing they don't teach you in law school, but that can win cases, nevertheless.
Dazzle dazzle them
This song reminds me of my cat! You have to know him to see what im talking about!
"she does! she does!" i can't stop laughing
Everyone loves the bamboozler
Is it me, coulf billy flynn sport a moustache in this scene? to give it a more theatrical vibe?
Georges Clooney in a musical movie 👏🏽🎉
Deeply cynical. And SO true. Are you not entertained??
Yes, so true. As deeply entertained as I was with Trump being found guilty of an election interference felony simply because he gifted his ex lover money to not disclose their affair when he was still a private citizen to the public. It's just that with Trump, it's Chicago in reverse!
You know, I'm never one to say I told you so.
I’m still curious on what the sign he did at 2:34 meant 😅
I think that only meant the moment amos fell under his spell
Advice for life
He sounded like Lin for a bit at the start-
It’s Gere not geere
Sometimes Hollywood goes balls out with boooolshiiiiiiiit.
And this is a prime example of it
That's the point of the scene. Heck, it's the point of the whole show.
Is it though? We all live in stories and narratives. If you can craft it and control it, you have some ability to persuaded others. Why would a law court be any better?
@@queendumb Because it's supposed to not be like that. Not that malleable.
@@SiiriCressey What something should be on paper and what it is in reality are two different things. Would it be nice if courtrooms were places of honestly and finding the truth? Yes it would be, and it is something to aim for. But don't kid yourself that they are immune to such tactics.
@@queendumb Yup. Note the words "supposed to not be."
what is he doing with his eyebrows?
Who? What eyebrows? Where?
This movie is probably how Amber Heard's lawyers learned everything they know tbh.
Lol you mean depp
to be fair if I had a client like that there's not to much I can do
Lol, they weren't quite as slick as Billy Flynn.
Imagine even current day Britney doing Roxie……
❤😂😂😂
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maybe trump should hire this guy
This was the funniest comment I've seen all day dude
Drumpf IS this guy...
Trump would be a case of life imitating art. The big bamboozlea and the old flim flam flummox. Who, in their right mind, would ever think that an ex president would be found guilty of an election interference felony simply because he gifted his ex lover money to not disclose their affair when he was still a private citizen to the public? It's just plain insanity!
More like Kamala than Trump.
@@gregorygrothman3051 I agree.
Nefarious.
I object)
thats only show playboy master richard gere most iconic show yes razzle dazzle girls crawl feet give one diamond second perfume here go darling razzle dazzle jury art lies charmmake judge grtaest event history actor can be shiny man diamond want girls fkynns clapdance party shes defend both hold gun crazy head make tricks free bird billy flyn advocate want win case must heff sth pro brillaint song realmagician billy flynn
CAN YOU STOP DOING VIDEOS I AM DOING VENOM 2 FULL MOVIE
@@DustinalY what
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Theeeeee _fuck?_
@@lukeskywalker9060I’m guessing a bot or someone having an episode
Can someone help? Two people on Instagram and tik tok blocked me and I did nothing, I only wanted to be friends, like wtf is wrong with people
bro you asking this under a comment section of a musical song about a sleazy lawyer fooling the court
Ratio 🤡
You absolute weirdo 😂
Yeah no shit they’re blocking you…
It’s worse when you can tell this is a whole child.
Razzle dazzle them
And ya got a Romance!