Hoi4 Impossible Armored Cars Challenge? The WORST IN THE GAME
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The irony is recon doesn't rubber for it's tires, but a float plane needs rubber
It's German engineering don't question it
Float planes can have wheels, the pby 5 has variants with wheels.
There is landing gear inside the floats
The point is a vehicle with at least four tires uses no rubber, a float plane may or may not have wheels but still cost rubber.
Didn’t you know its not for the tires but the band that spins the props? 😂
Pretty sure the best nation to do this with is Italy. Cos I'm 95% sure they have a production bonus to armored cars via focus tree.
Yeah, they have a focus that gives them -10% production cost, +5% reliability, as well as 2x75% cost reductions for mobile warfare, and a 150% research bonus to armoured cars.
I'm just curious if there is a scenario where you would pick motorized+cars instead of motorized+lighttanks?
Like you say, maaaybe with Italy the lower production cost/resource requirement and the slightly higher speed later on could be worth it?
But yeah just raw cars is a meme, worse than artillery only xD
@@acey195 Oh yeah, early game their actually kind of good. If you do it late game with a semi chunky light tank template in the recon role you can actually manage enough armour to not be terrible, and you'll usually melt tank divisions.
@@acey195No. Armored cars are terrible.
italy may have some pretty good bonuses for it, but even with 10% cost reduction and 5% reliability bonuses, it is still realy bad.
trust me, when BBA came in a saw these bonuses and whent full on armored cars replacement for tanks, seeing if would do anything, and it did not whent well...
My truck needs more ARMOR!!!
Yes
give it a GUN to!!!
Trujlk
Truak
*truck*
Here's the thing, if I'm not mistaken, you can use the tank designer to give wheels to tanks. That turns them into armored cars/trucks, right? *even though it'll still say that they're tanks in the game.
Tank with wheels are a things, they are used on light tank because they are easier to maintain, eat less oil and have higher max speed.
The French AMX 10 RC is a good exemple. (and yes ti's a tank, it's called a tank by their army and it's in every aspect a tank)
AMX-10 RC is a tank destroyer as the Italian Centauro, not an actual tank, it is capable of dealing against tanks, but it can't do what a tank can do, plus, for a vehicle to be classified as a tank, it needs to have tracks, no rubber wheels (Lorrain 40t still have tracks if you want to put it as an example of "wheeled tank")
Don't those still have tracks?
I used armoured cars in the RoN mod in the 1900 start date, and honestly had a similar experience. At first it goes kinda well because they act like light tanks but as soon as the enemy can peirce you you get screwed.
1900 do you mean a mod if so the mod i remenber with that start date is the rise of nations and when i played the ai was bugged and couldnt make planes and tank nor piercing units in other start dates where the ai starts with planes and tanks researched they started using them by the way in 1900start date i was able to conquer the world by 1920s with just armored cars and planes.
@@dbriner-jo5tv pretty much, except I played as Japan and Germany kinda took over the world while I was busy with Russia (I have a YT series on it) so I’m kinda fighting for existence 😅
Challenge: mechanized only
The only infantry you can use is mechanized infantry and amphtracks because they are basically mechanized marines.
You can use artillery tanks and other stuff like that bonus challenge: do it as France.
i mean u really cant get mechanized till like 38-39 so unless u literally dont plan to go to war till 41-42 its a pretty pointless challenge, similar to rocket artilliery you dont get it so late that its just a bad challenge
@@snekkie117 Since Mechanized is pretty much an upgrade to Motorized, maybe they could allow Motorized to be used until 39' rolls around?
what gabe said, mot. only till you unlock mech, then only that onwards
There are plenty of countrys with research bonus for mech so you could get it in like 38 and if you switch full production on it it would be ready in 1940@@snekkie117
Ahhh yes, the Armored car, introduced in LR for anti-partisan duties, but ultimatly outclassed by WW1 machinegun-lawnmowers after NSB introduced the tank designer.
duties*
lawnmowers*
@@AidanKim-rc7kd done
@@Robyn_Bank gg
its still very useful against partisans
The best "Armored Car" you can do is just take a Light Tank and slap wheels on it instead of tracks.
Heres a fun challenge: Do the "Not One Step Back" Achievement, but start in the 1939 scenario. I've tried it and its quite hard, but not impossible.
if you did treaty with the soviets you could've gotten 2x 100% research bonus for armor, which curiously counts armored cars too and get those Pumas earlier. also you can increase it's stats with "create variant" just like you would with mechanized but at a cost to production.
Send this as a disaster save to Bittersteel and see what he can do with it!
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Painful to watch 😂 but still entertaining ❤
Thanks for your hard work
I mean you can just upgrade the armored cars in the edit template thingy. They can become quite strong actually, but it’s costly…
Idea: hoi4 but all focuses are chosen by an AI
Yes.
AI in game, or a spinning wheel with all of the focuses he could possibly do on them?
Type ai human an con
JaythePotato actually did a challenge for the Armored Cars. And it went as well as you thought it would.
Fighting with these probably looks like that Dodge Challenger advert where they chase away the British in the cars
Bro, the general rule has been allowing all support companies. And you can use any units to complete any unit count related focus. Please redo
My challenge to you is you can only use the weapons you get at the start of the game. No weapon research allowed 😂
im sure making a proper division with mech and armored cars would prob be a good cheap alternative to tanks and might actually work
Maybe the true armored cars were the friends we made along the way
maybe try again but you can use support-units and/or when you create a Division, the last slot of a line can be what ever you want, so you can boost your armored cars wit other units at a heavy cost
Episode 2 of asking stakuyi to play as germany in kaisserredux
The French spy: “Yeah for some fucking reason the Germans have just built a bunch of cars”
Video #32 of requesting stakuyi to play Magna Europa
Armored car rework when? Any predictions?
imo with NSB they should have folded armoured cars into the light tanks, with the stats that go well, and with the caveat for them that they need to use the wheel or half track suspension, so that at least you would be able to make something decent to use as a line btn of your divisions, and as an incentive to design those, well, give the supression bonus for the role and maybe make it so a line AC btn gives recon bonus at the cost of hardness (or something)
also with armoured cars you can create variants where you increase (some of) their stats, tho you can only touch armour, gun, engine and reliability, at the cost of a lot of army XP (400 total to max an AC tech level) and production cost (IC go brrrrr)
Well, you managed to increase Organization through the focus tree by more then 100%. That's good, 20 Org is bad, but it's not "German looses against Poland" bad. The real problem was that HP were still virtually nonexistant, no buffs there are the cars took so much damage. But yeah, Armored cars are the most useless.
Navy only no air or army; objective SURVIVE
Step on the gas gas gas
Wait no germany not what I ment
The AC can be used for garrisons if you care more about saving manpower than industrial efficiency.
Obscure note on the lack of rubber for the armoured cars. Before synthetic rubber production took off, countries with a lack of ready access to natural rubber experimented with all sorts of different wheels and tyres. Because it was blockaded, Germany already experimented with steel tyres in World War I.
I'm pretty sure there are mods that would make this possible
Episode 2 of asking Stak to play austria and reforming the holy roman empire in r56
Why no support companies? Support artillery could change everything for you
Demented hell we can create inside of the comment section? Sure thing!
Artillery only.
You should form the great chilian empire and conquer every coastal state in the Americas as chile (and only the coastal states. You can puppet the rest)
would armored cars still be as bad if you could use them like space marines or add motorized infantry to the template? Tanks are really good but if you built a tank only division it would be pretty bad.
I've tried it, it's a solid eh. It gets to be ok if you max the armour on them, and on mechanized then make a mechanized+armoured car division, but even then it's not great. The cars are only really good for garrisons and recon companies.
Their okay with motorized being the bulk of the division being them. In fact, I use them instead of light tanks to save on production.
So the more realistic option is to do Light SP Artillery only, and you have to use wheeled suspension. At that point it's basically an armored car that doesn't suck as bad.
Damn the fact that 2 armored car divisions cant even break a cav division. Its freaking horses man how are they worse then a car. They really need balance the cars more cause they really aren't even worth touching at all unless its modded to hell
unrealistic af armored cars are OP in company of heroes
Ok now try pre war equipment only, including air force and navy
Could you do a updated video on how to play HOI4 for beginners
imagine not using armored car recon, its purely why you lost clearly
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PLAY THE (not) STUPID PONY MOD!
Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. =^x^=
Millennium dawn Japan please do it already stop resisting
he forgot to put on victory or death and to modify the cars
As of today I only have about four more of your videos to watch. I find your gameplay to be both enlightening and amusing af.
Watched the 84' Red Dawn yesterday and was wondering if you could possibly pull off the invasion of the USA while keeping it as close to the movie as possible?
So challenge: As either Cuba, Nicaragua or Russia join a faction with the other two and lead an invasion into the USA while simultaneously fighting the Chinese
Super heavy tanks and armored train only next👀
I can't even build armored cars. What version are they in?
i have the challenge and its only using great war tank only
I wish PDX reworked those less used equipments into something actual usable. Stuff like rockets, recon planes, anything of reccon, signal company, strat/tat bombers and others. Most of these equipments are either worst than useless or you research them in like 1945 when the game is basically over.
I played hoi4 for 1000 hours and I never used signal companies, reccon or amphibious tanks just because they are simply not worth it. In multiplayer they may be significant but in singleplayer, its just waste of IC.
Ah yes, The Mustache Man and his Armoured Mercedes Vehicles 😂
Shovels only
Golf carts and motorcycles.
I’d be more curious about seeing a special forces video of using Marines, mountain infantry , and paratroopers
Bro could have Armor Car Recon 💀
Can you do arty only challenge?
I notice you didn't add points to your cars. I don't know if it would have made a difference, but you should be able to beef up their stats the way armor and air used to work before the designer was added.
Challenge idea for you:
-New World Order Run as any European country, United States, Canada, South Africa, Australia, or New Zealand.
-No matter what, you're not allowed to declare war on any of the countries listed above, with the exception of communist countries, but you can declare war on any other country except fascists regardless of who the target is aligned with.
-You may not join another country's faction, but you may start one of your own.
-Any country you conquer that isn't or cannot become your core territory must be puppeted and allowed to earn back its freedom, or in the case of an ongoing war, must be allowed to form a collaboration government. You may choose not to call puppets or allies into a war, however.
-If you choose Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy, you must keep historical mode on. However, you may go non-historical for any country that doesn't start fascist or if you choose to depose Benny to install either of the other fascist leaders.
-Bonus round, requires access to the console. Do you think you could pull off the challenge by starting off as Germany, choosing to oppose Hitler, and then taking command of the Reich after Himmler stages a coup? This would be an absolutely cursed run, but talking about deposing Mussolini got me thinking about that.
BTW, I'm not choosing arbitrary rules to trip you up. This is how I always play. Admittedly, I am a terrible player and have yet to complete the challenge before I cock everything up and turn it into an unmitigated disaster.
no techs or doctrines (really) effect Armour cars. they can´t really be boosted. even cavalry is better. also no General perks effect Armoured car, it is not Mot,cav, inf or armour.
I have a challenge for you can you conquer the entire world as Germany but you gotta use all the basic units
Can you do marines only please
Do it again, mass armoured cars, but if you get the Puma then you have a chance. Also get nukes.
Why Armored Cars suck in a noobs perspective:
-For Garrison, one single division of cavalry is better at doing that
-For speed, mechanized or motorised do the job better for less
-For armor, literally anything is better, there is no reason to grab this over a light tank
-For support, Light tank is better at giving armor
-For cost efficiency, you are better using light tanks or just Infantry and artillery
Some butterfly flapped its wings one extra time and created this incredibly cursed timeline. At least it saved Poland from Mr. Mustache. I wonder if the Soviet Union uses only snow shovels in this timeline?
Hey stakyui or however you spell your name, could you please do an alt-hist on what if Ronaldo and Messi caused WW2? I have this message sent to other alt-hist TH-camrs, so act quick!
It might not be as much of a challenge. However, I think this would be more doable where the challenge is only using cars in general. So motorized, infantry and towed and motorized artillery are allowed
I've used armored cars a couple of times and noticed no difference to light tanks
Form czechoslovenia (czechia) and yugoslovakia (yugoslavia) and have them in your own faction by 1939.
I'm a little disappointed wish you would have just built nothing but strait Armourd cars and you could have maybe knocked out Poland with numbers
Wait why not just use tank designer to make the armored cars? EDIT yea checked you can make a better "armored car" in the tank designer than what the game gives you
i mean they are used for recon not for assault so yea..this was bad
I'm waiting for the Soviet Union Men Only Challenge. No equipment than Stalin telling you to run to frontlines and fight the axis barehanded
Plus China as well 😂
Can pump out units without equipment. Plus, if they have zero, they die automatically.
Wouldn't Italy be even better then Germany for this due to the production and Org benefit Bandits War gives?
Why didn't you design an improvement for any of your cars? You do realize they use the old design system right?
Lore of Hoi4 Impossible Armored Cars Challenge? The WORST IN THE GAME momentum 100
You could have the best units in the world and the AI will find a way to have 200 defense and you only have 5 attack
Dumb idea! Do this exact thing with the country that made the attack scooter. (France I believe?)
I have a challenge just use infantry nothing else that means no Air Force no armor no motorization no nothing except infantry
Would love to see more Equestria at War, love the vids
Plays Germany for strength - locks himself out of the strongest part of the tree - ouch; But wait, he doesn't give up after that! Respect 🙂
Try to fight a nation with Max research?
Hmmm. Boats only Norway? Stop the Germans from ever landing on shore in the first place?
Maybe allow trucks and supplies in the divisions so you can have some support for the division?
Please do a Tanya the evil redux mod playthrough for hoi4. Please
Challenge idea: nabal heavy Turkey with a goal to kill UK, Jap and finally USA fleet
It's really funny that armoured car 1 is better than 2 or 3 because its cheaper and the stats dont matter
Stakuyi playing the game
His fuel stockpile:📉
I dont think Germany is the best country for Armored Cars....still funny though.
A challenge: as any nation other than Germany or the US, kill one billion enemy combatants.
Play as UK, no land units allowed in France, prevent France from capitulating.
You ignored the opportunity to say Mercedes n**s. You are a better man than I! 😅
Here's a challenge try to take all you know about Hoi4 and try to apply it to a game of Hoi3 and see if you can win.
Challange idea: As Germany abide by the Treaty of Versailles.
Army Restrictions 100k men in the field MAX (Bonus Points if its 7 infantry 3 Calvary), no airforce, no armored cars/tanks, Disarmed Nation Conscription
Navy Limits: 6 battleships/battlecruisers/Heavy Cruiser, 6 Light cruisers, 24 Destroyers
industrial Restrictions: No Lend Leasing to nations (Except to France, UK, USA), Free Trade, Civilian Economy
(you may temporarily Ignore the treaty if you civil war to become Democratic until the civil war ends)
Shoulda used light wheeled tanks, because c'mon - it's basically the same.
The sheer amount of wrong spelling and bad naming made my chromosomes disappear.
@stakuyi what nation is the best for my first ever campaign in your opinion?
Armored Cars - are Mech-Infantry....so next time Infantrytechtree????
umm, these challenges - do they not permit the use of any support companies?
Why are these in the game? Shouldn't armored cars be at least better than horses?!
My guy didn't realize he was 1940 barbing the whole time XD
You said there is no reason to utilize armored cars as garrisons but that is wrong. Armored Cars have more hardness than cavalry and the harder a division is the less manpower and equipment it will bleed to occupation.
More expensive to the point that it’s not really worth it. Suppression is not high enough relative to cost