My teen daughter Billie discovered her love for watchmaking at a young age. Because she has emotional problems we have her schooled at home. This is to great advantage because she spends nearly all her spare time studying and practising the craft, knowing one day she will be a watchmaker like you. We've bought her professional watchmaking tools like yours. Billie thanks you for all your videos and is a subscriber. Me? I work for an Air Ambulance and love your videos because they are sublimely relaxing. It is testament to you that my daughter is so bright. You have no idea the inspiration you have given my daughter, and I humbly thank you. Later this evening Billie will be joining your other site so she can learn more. All the very best and God bless, Wendi 🌻
Hi Wendy! What a lovely comment! Very pleased that you both are finding something helpful it my videos. I take my hat off to you as the Air Ambulance is a 'proper job' and we are all in your debt for sure! Richard
"You can't scare me. I held the flashlight while my dad worked on the car!" This quote is a bit of a joke for folks of my generation in the states. Glad to see you are far more civil with your apprentice! Great video and thanks for the micro lathe work. I watch Cutting Edge Engineering do lathe work on gigantic earth moving equipment. Amazing the range of work that can be done with one.
I also watch Cutting Edge Engineering... I gotta say: this little piece Richard made is probably smaller than a chip of metal from Cutting Edge channel.
This is pretty soft steel in comparison. Curtis deals with tool steel primarily ... very hard. I love seeing Curtis' hardened steel chips perfectly bluing themselves as they fall away from his workpiece. :)
Mark from long Island watch said that there are 2 different versions of these st1901 movements. The version sea-gull manufacturers and some that a separate factory in china manufacturers. The ones from seagull are excellent quality but the ones from the other factory are subpar. The issue is figuring out which version the watch builder or watchmaker is using.
Hi Rocco ... Yes, I think this is correct and figuring this out is probably not completely straight forward although the price is probably a starting point. Good point, thank you for making it. Richard
I’ve got a st1901 based watch that I bought new for £130. I’ve found that the chronograph hand resets to a different place each time the chrono is used. It’s only a second or two away from 0 but could be a way of telling which one you have?
@orbwheelsandwatches that sucks man. I own a couple st1901 based watches. The cheaper 1964 watches i stay away from because those seem to be the watches that have the most problems. I had an issue with mine and ive seen a lot of complaints about those watches. Idk who is assembling those, but it isn't sea-gull. I can attest to Sugess and Merkur watches. Mine have been flawless, and i haven't heard many complaints.
The swan neck regulator makes regulating the watch really difficult. You have to take the movement partially out of the case to access the adjustment screw, which is extremely tiny. And a false move with the screwdriver puts it right into balance spring.
Vine a los comentarios buscando quien hablara de esto, tengo ese movimiento y me gustaría afinarlo, pero no encuentro a nadie que lo haga en video. Por tu comentario veo que es mas complicado de lo que creía 😅. Saludos
Richard, I just picked up my first Swiss Automatic, a Tissot Gentleman. I have to thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience in watchmaking with us all. Cheers my friend.
Hi Wes good to hear from you. Can't go far wrong with Tissot. They hail from Locle in Switzerland where, for many years, a watchmaker called 'Perret' hung out with them! Nice one sir! Richard
Really enjoyed that Richard. Love how you used the digi scope on the lathe. Despite owning 2 of these movements I’ve still not built up the courage to tackle a service on one. Superb how your daughter is involved too. Nice camera angles too, I know from experience that can sometimes be quite tricky .
Hi Michael... Good to hear from you! The digiscope is a real blessing with the lathe. I have much respect for anyone cutting a staff squinting through a loupe. You should definitely do some chronographs... They are somehow really satisfying to work on. I did not cover the adjustment of the centrics in this video and its a goid idea to swat up a little on these before starting if you are not familiar. Also one of the springs on the st19 has a small shim underneath it which is easy to lose if you don't know it's there. Thanks again. Richard
Always appreciate the splined Chronograph pusher tubes and pushers. No rotation. Therefore the slot end of the pusher screw cannot rotate and line up with the movement pusher arm. Had a wakmann v72C which failed to start randomly. Upon disassembly I noticed the pusher tube and pusher had been replaced by a non splined version. It allowed the pusher to rotate and when the slot lined up with the pusher arm preventing the engagement of the pusher. The fix was to replace the pusher with a splined version. I bring this up as I noticed that the seagull case is not splined and that the pusher slot lined up with the pusher arm cam. As usual, wonderful video, editing and presentation. But the way, I have a couple of these seagulls from the seagull factory. I wish they made the 12 hour version.
Blown away with your lathe set up, what a great piece of kit. But what really shocks is the idea that you are holding the cutting tool free hand. Nerves of steel there Richard.. 😱.. This is on a different level.
I purchased a Sugess Chronograph for myself and a friend, and thus far I am extremely pleased. I have watches that are far more expensive and the bang for the buck with these is for real. Thanks for your content, subscribed. :)
Hi Scott... Thank you so much for mentioning this. I am convinced I just got unlucky and got the watch where tge assembler accidentally mixed up the pushers for the 38mm case with those for the 40mm case. Welcome aboard! Richard
@@richardperrettwatchmaker Interesting. I bought the 38mm "Panda" for myself and the 40mm Breitling Homage for my friend as a gift for completing airline training. I haven't spoke with him about his, but mine is running great and hasn't been off my wrist for the 2 or so months I have owned it. That said, I have an 1861 Speedmaster and the Sugess is certainly not as legible in low light as the Omega. As an aviator, the Speedy Pro is probably the handiest cockpit watch ever just because of the legibility. Still love my Seagull Chronograph though. Thanks again Richard! :).
I am lucky to own a few of these mvts in several different watch brands without any problems, they run perfectly for several years now. It is a wonderfull mvt . I love the skills you have on the lathe, great job. Thanks for sharing Richard, much appreciated.
nuts, ive got a coupla ST19s, both solid as a rock im glad to say. Venus were bought by Valjoux and the 7733 (which was sold to Russia lock stock and machine tools) was based on a Venus calibre and developed into the chronos we all use today, most all the Swatch ones anyway.
Those numbers for viewers are crazy 91% aren’t subscribed. Come on people subscribe. I have been following over a year. Keep up the great work Richard!!!!
Watching now. It's very welcome a video with such amount of detailing. I know this movements are derivated from Venus movements, but I'm not aware of its reliability, construction quality, etc. I intend to buy a watch with this movement soon! Thank you for this content, Richard!
DONT stop talking! Richard Attenborough ain’t got nothin on ya! Nothing more relaxing than watching you work and hearing your overdub. U must’ve been a very polite major….most I’ve known did not have voices I wanted to listen to whilst trying to sleep! 😂 keep it up!
Awesome video Richard... Love your work on the lathe and other technical tools. Great job on fixing this mvt and its pushers to make the work as they're supposed to .. Excellent. Thanks for the tour.......Kudos
Hi Rick... That was bad luck sir! Maybe we had pieces from the same batch. My wife has decided to 'borrow' mine now she has seen the video and so I don't have one either! Hey ho, worse things happen at sea I guess. Richard
Beautiful movement, that’s how I clean my parts with a soft artist brush with cut short bristles I don’t work on enough movements to warrant spending huge money on cleaning machines plus I think it adds to the experience of a full service and rebuild when you’ve lovingly wash every single part of the watch. I did find out the hard way not to rinse hairsprings in IPA as the shellac dissolves on the end stud that controls the beat error adjustment, it’s all a learning process but all recoverable with a little patience and perseverance. 👍🙏👏
Thanks for your service to the country and thanks also for the great video. As always, a great learning experience. The lathe work is highly educational and interesting.
Wow! I was holding my breath as you were tightening the screw while holding the blocking level against the spring. I guess it's just practice, practice, practice, but I seem to do so when placing springs of all types. Nice work!
This illustrates the problem with some of these micro brands that don't have a long track record in making watches. You shouldn't have had to re- make the pushers if they had been designed properly in the first place. I think people have to understand that you get what you pay for and these can't be regarded as quality movements but more of a novelty.
Well they have produced this movement in China since 1963, a pause in the 90’s I think. Not sure if it’s the same company that produce all of them, they might have factories producing them on a license.
@truxton1000 yes it would seem that the movements are made by many different factories with differing quality levels. I purchased a watch with one of these movements and the winding mechanism broke after 6 months. By the way if you look at one of these modern Chinese movements and then at original Venus movements there's no comparison particularly in the finish and quality.
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv Yes it's definately a difference in the original Venus, the question is what are these differences? Looking at a dismatled ST19 movement I got in my toolbox I can see that it's a difference in what the mainplate is made off, it seems like the Chinese use plated brass? Not sure. How precise the machining is might be pretty good, the other ST19 movement I got perform almost at good as any new Longines or Omega which is not chronometer certified, in terms of how precise it is, in all positions it runs between plus 3 to plus 10 seconds a day, beat error with dial up of down is 0.0, with crown up or down it's around 0.2-0.3, amplitude is around 300 or high 290's. The performance is also related to how well these movements are put together. Still I think when one buy one of these watches for £90 all included it's very very good value unless you get one with quality issues of course. Still it seems like most people are happy with them, I think they are (as the original venus one's also was ) a bit fragile for normal day to day use. I suspect mine will last for many years with careful use, not exposing it to huge differences in temperature/humidity, and making sure it's not dropped.
It is a shame they used the wrong size piece to hold the movement. It looks, to my eye, as though plastic would have been fine had it been the right size. Paying someone with your skills to fix that would not have been worth it. I love watching you work! Well done!
It would be a great watch if someone else was in charge of making sure there was decent quality control (and given the pushers, better design as well). I feel like we need someone to buy these, FIX them, and then sell them on as working watches (as opposed to what you might get normally). I loved watching you make the parts!
Hi David! Very good to hear from you! I have received your email and will respond very soon! My theory is the assembly guy got the pushers pot mixed up with the one meant for the 38mm case! Richard
You are a true craftsman and I implicitly trust your observations regarding quality and overall assembly with confidence. I love watching you work and narrate - it's a gift to be able to do both so well! You're also channeling MacGyver in this video with the fly-tying glue and the ballpoint pen! Lol. "Reassuringly Expensive Lubricants" - you're part comedian, too, sir. It's always nice to see the family+dog getting into watchmaking. Finally, I had never considered buying a Seagull movement watch but you've opened that door for me. Seeing how they are built changed my impression of them.
Hi Alex... Such a nice comment to receive! There's quite a lot of work goes into each video so it is great to receive feedback like yours. Thank you so much! Richard
Just got a speedy homage w/ st19 movement. My start stop pusher is too long, have to reattach column wheel lever if I push too hard. Will need to grind some off eventually.
Nice to see this. I have several of this movment. At the moment I'm wearing My favourite a San Martin 62 mas chronograph. Touch wood it's been working like... Clockwork 😅
I loved this vlog. My son and I bought a Seagull movement two years ago to fit in to a case. It is wonderful, only our incompetence has prevented it doing its job. Criticism? If Seagull focussed more on the 'finer' finishing of the movements then they would certainly be competing with the Swiss. My son and I eventually found a German made case with an ETA 2892 A1 movement for 'no money' and it is 'absolutely perfect'. Would I use a Seagull movement again, yes. Would I wear it with 'pride' no - quality is certainly in the detail. Great vlog. My thanks.
Interesting. I have a Sugess 1963 38mm and just checked it out. It doesn't have any extensions or movement holder probably because of the smaller diameter case. The chrono on mine works well enough but the hand doesn't always centre on reset. The main issue I have with mine is the power reserve is about 10 hours below the specified 40ish hours. I bought from a UK seller and had a replacement but that was more or less the same. I've heard others have this issue as well.
Merci infiniment pour ce partage. Je suis passionné d'horlogerie , habitant Chamonix juste à coté de la Suisse, et votre travail partagé, est tellement agréable à regarder. Encore merci ! Je découvre votre chaine youtube et je m'abonne immédiatement !
I don't feel guilty at all. 😁 Subscribed since I saw the first of your videos. The greatest watch channel on TH-cam if you'd ask me. Thanks for your great work.
Wonderfully detailed video with running commentary. You have inspired me to have a go at watch repairs myself - so thank you. Good to see you are involving your daughter in the business!
Absolutely amazing! How you can fabricate these pieces and fix this and make it usable again is astounding to me. I wonder how many people have bought this watch and have thrown it in the garbage when the same malfunction happened to them and they didn't feel like spending hundreds of dollars (or pounds) to get it fixed. So sad that a piece that could have been made correctly probably caused many watches to fail. Anyway, thank you for the video. I'm sure that your daughter will become an expert watchmaker having both a father and teacher in you.
Absolutely correct. Unfortunately a lot of reviews make out these watches are the bees knees. I bought a watch with this movement and the winding mechanism broke after 6 months. Here he's had a problem with the column wheel and the pushers are not designed well. I think these watches could be better with improved qc.
@@richardperrettwatchmaker Everything good this end thank you Richard. Strange isn't it, those movements appear to be getting very fair reviews (price vs ability) but then ruined by some shoddy mounting 😉 I keep getting tempted by another Chronomat...I think I'd better take my name off the mailing list 😂😂😂
Hi Jake.... Good to hear that your 1963 is running OK... I think I just got unlucky. I do love the st19 and it will probably serve yoy well sir! Thanks for the feedback. Richard
Great video. I'd love to hear an explanation of what each part of this movement does. Furthermore, I'm interested in learning watch servicing and repair. What's the best way to go about it?
Hi Culture Vulture ... It isn't in the same room for that very reason ... it is banished with the other dust creating machines! Good point sir! Richard
Nice video! I have a couple of these movements, and I’m quite happy with them. Mainplate finish is not good and one of the cannon pinions is very tight, but what can you expect from a column wheel chronograph with this price tag?
Automatic day date is the limit of my skill, I have not tried my hand at a chronograph yet and I need to find one that is pretty simple for a beginner. Do you have any suggestions Richard? Thank.
Hi All Things M3, honesty I would start with one of these ST19 movements... They are really not very complex and plentiful. Failing that a pocket watch chronograph might suit. Everything is a bit bigger which can be helpful for a first chronograph service. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
This has always been my question with this movement, how reliable are they. I have purchased six watches with this movement in them over the past two years. I have a large collection so I have barely worn them. When I do wear them, I really don't use the chronograph. I would assume that as infrequently as I wear them they will hopefully last awhile. Do you think this flaw in the pushers is a design characteristic of the movement or does it have to do with what type of pushers the manufacturer, in this case Sugess put in the movement. Sugess is one of the biggest companies using this movement in their watches.
Well I think I just answered my own question. I just checked one of my Phylida's and I see the pushers are different. They are larger on the outside on the Phylida. I can't tell though if there is a difference in length. The pushers are also much harder to push in on the Phylida versus the Sugess. The Sugess feels much nicer.
I have one of these ST1901s, but there's an issue on mine where when I press the top pusher the chronograph seconds hand sometimes flies back 1 or 3 seconds before the mechanism starts, and thus also advances the minute counter. This seems to happen especially often if I'm in a position where my watch is tilted to the left a bit compared to gravity. How might I go about fixing this? Bit of a cheap watch, so I'd rather fix the issue myself.
Hi MrCarGuy ... It certainly is. Definitely worth spending a lot of time with the movement just to understand the basics of chronograph design and implementation without having to worry about the movement as spares (in the form of whole movements!) are very plentiful. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
Nice work, Richard. As usual. The problem I have with mine is that when I press the top pusher, The second hand moves to the 4 second mark before starting the chronograph. I'm tempted to just leave it as it is, but it is a pity. Is there an "easy" fix, please?
Ah, the video you watched from the Chinese watchmaker must be Nanjing Siyuan watch repairing company. They do own a lot of professional equipment and can even restore some really rare pieces :) And they are among some of the rare ones that also applies Epilame on critical bearings & parts too.
A very nice video from you (as usual) -- many thanks. But your project brings up a question: this watch failed after three months, the movement was installed improperly in the case, it had defective pushers, and other problems, and you still call it a "very attractive chronograph?"
Hi H Lebo... You raise a good point. From an engineering perspective there were obviously some pretty significant shortcomings with the wztch I received. I think the pushers probably got mixed up with ones intended for a smaller case. But most folks will probably not encounter this. Aesthetically the watch is 'very attractive' I think. I really like the look of it. I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say. Richard
I don't know if people are always lucky and get a working, reliable watch or if I am just very unlucky ! My latest purchase, a brand new Addiesdive AD2112 must be the most inconsistently inaccurate watch even when kept fully wound and in a stationary position. It is a great pity as it is an extremely nice looking watch. It was my first, and probably last, Aliexpress purchase. It brings home the problems that occur when you want to return something to China. My luck really must have been out that day as they then released a quartz VH31 version which is much cheaper and will be more accurate over 1 or 2 months than the NH38 will be over a single day (or a couple of hours in my case....).
Come on folks just hit the subscribe button it’s free and you won’t have to do anything other than enjoy Mr. P’s excellent videos. The man is truly an artist the way he treats a $200 Chinese watch with the same care and precision as he would on a $15.000 Rolex! Keep up the good work Mr. P! Cheers.
Every watch is valued by its owner. Therefore it should indeed be treated with respect by others as well. The only junk is YOUR junk. Other people never own junk. That's how I see things anyway.
I agree they are good 👍 but as any chronos ... could need a "small to full" service (all chronos are in this category) ⚠ ♻ i search-buy these ST19 chrono (Sugess Alpha Seagull 1963) as non working for repair / parts ♻ ... very good for a beginner (but no spare parts 😪 ... only stem could be found in detail, ¿ even dial / set of hands ? any advice other than alpha-watches ? 🤔)
I have a Seagull 1963 (from Long Island Watch) that won’t wind. When I try as soon as I let go of the crown it spins backwards. So far two watchmakers say they can’t fix it. Ugh! - Aaron
Hi Aaron... Ironically., given your TH-cam 'handle' the symptom you describe is consistent with a defective 'click mechanism'.... If so, and of course it might be something else, it should be reasonably easy to fix. Hope you can get it sorted. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
mine one stops when in a certain angle, its good enough to use as fashion but i am never able to trust it, its the sugess breitling bo1 premier homage, its so pretty so its a shame, sound like the balance starts rubbing against something at that angle and if you hold it long enough it stops
Watching all those expensive oils and greases being applied reminded me of a quick hack I would use in my watch building days. I would first dismantle the watch, clean it and rebuild it dry. Then - when fully assembled I would give it a thorough soaking in WD 40, leave it a couple of hours, then blow all the excess oil out with a high preasure air nozzle. Saved ages! TBH I only rebuilt one stopwatch that got ruined when the dive supervisor fell in the 'ogin! But it was a very succesful rebuild .... when I finished that stopwatch could do an hour in about 25 minutes! RESULT!!
My teen daughter Billie discovered her love for watchmaking at a young age. Because she has emotional problems we have her schooled at home. This is to great advantage because she spends nearly all her spare time studying and practising the craft, knowing one day she will be a watchmaker like you. We've bought her professional watchmaking tools like yours. Billie thanks you for all your videos and is a subscriber. Me? I work for an Air Ambulance and love your videos because they are sublimely relaxing. It is testament to you that my daughter is so bright.
You have no idea the inspiration you have given my daughter, and I humbly thank you. Later this evening Billie will be joining your other site so she can learn more. All the very best and God bless, Wendi 🌻
Hi Wendy! What a lovely comment! Very pleased that you both are finding something helpful it my videos. I take my hat off to you as the Air Ambulance is a 'proper job' and we are all in your debt for sure! Richard
@@richardperrettwatchmaker That means such a lot to me. Thank you also for such a wonderful video of that Chronograph. Wendi.
"You can't scare me. I held the flashlight while my dad worked on the car!" This quote is a bit of a joke for folks of my generation in the states. Glad to see you are far more civil with your apprentice! Great video and thanks for the micro lathe work. I watch Cutting Edge Engineering do lathe work on gigantic earth moving equipment. Amazing the range of work that can be done with one.
I also watch Cutting Edge Engineering... I gotta say: this little piece Richard made is probably smaller than a chip of metal from Cutting Edge channel.
This is pretty soft steel in comparison. Curtis deals with tool steel primarily ... very hard. I love seeing Curtis' hardened steel chips perfectly bluing themselves as they fall away from his workpiece. :)
Mark from long Island watch said that there are 2 different versions of these st1901 movements. The version sea-gull manufacturers and some that a separate factory in china manufacturers. The ones from seagull are excellent quality but the ones from the other factory are subpar. The issue is figuring out which version the watch builder or watchmaker is using.
Hi Rocco ... Yes, I think this is correct and figuring this out is probably not completely straight forward although the price is probably a starting point. Good point, thank you for making it. Richard
I watched that same video and thought the same thing. How can you tell which one you’re getting?
I’ve got a st1901 based watch that I bought new for £130. I’ve found that the chronograph hand resets to a different place each time the chrono is used. It’s only a second or two away from 0 but could be a way of telling which one you have?
@orbwheelsandwatches that sucks man. I own a couple st1901 based watches. The cheaper 1964 watches i stay away from because those seem to be the watches that have the most problems. I had an issue with mine and ive seen a lot of complaints about those watches. Idk who is assembling those, but it isn't sea-gull. I can attest to Sugess and Merkur watches. Mine have been flawless, and i haven't heard many complaints.
I bought a Seagull 1963 from Marc at Long Island watches. Seems to work great so far. $300 so I hope it’s the higher end assembly 😅
The swan neck regulator makes regulating the watch really difficult. You have to take the movement partially out of the case to access the adjustment screw, which is extremely tiny. And a false move with the screwdriver puts it right into balance spring.
Vine a los comentarios buscando quien hablara de esto, tengo ese movimiento y me gustaría afinarlo, pero no encuentro a nadie que lo haga en video. Por tu comentario veo que es mas complicado de lo que creía 😅. Saludos
Richard, I just picked up my first Swiss Automatic, a Tissot Gentleman. I have to thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience in watchmaking with us all. Cheers my friend.
Hi Wes good to hear from you. Can't go far wrong with Tissot. They hail from Locle in Switzerland where, for many years, a watchmaker called 'Perret' hung out with them! Nice one sir! Richard
Really enjoyed that Richard. Love how you used the digi scope on the lathe.
Despite owning 2 of these movements I’ve still not built up the courage to tackle a service on one.
Superb how your daughter is involved too.
Nice camera angles too, I know from experience that can sometimes be quite tricky .
Hi Michael... Good to hear from you! The digiscope is a real blessing with the lathe. I have much respect for anyone cutting a staff squinting through a loupe. You should definitely do some chronographs... They are somehow really satisfying to work on. I did not cover the adjustment of the centrics in this video and its a goid idea to swat up a little on these before starting if you are not familiar. Also one of the springs on the st19 has a small shim underneath it which is easy to lose if you don't know it's there. Thanks again. Richard
I'm always amazed by your ability and resourcefulness to manufacture parts that you need, such as the pushers in this video. Incredible.
Always appreciate the splined Chronograph pusher tubes and pushers. No rotation. Therefore the slot end of the pusher screw cannot rotate and line up with the movement pusher arm. Had a wakmann v72C which failed to start randomly. Upon disassembly I noticed the pusher tube and pusher had been replaced by a non splined version. It allowed the pusher to rotate and when the slot lined up with the pusher arm preventing the engagement of the pusher. The fix was to replace the pusher with a splined version.
I bring this up as I noticed that the seagull case is not splined and that the pusher slot lined up with the pusher arm cam.
As usual, wonderful video, editing and presentation. But the way, I have a couple of these seagulls from the seagull factory. I wish they made the 12 hour version.
Love how you treated this watch like a £20.000 pound watch, great stuff.
Great video ! Thanks for sharing Mr. Richard !!
Brilliant, as ever! Thanks again Major Richard!
Blown away with your lathe set up, what a great piece of kit.
But what really shocks is the idea that you are holding the cutting tool free hand.
Nerves of steel there Richard.. 😱..
This is on a different level.
Glad to see the master passing his wisdom down to his kids good on you
27:00 My st1901 has that skip as well. Do you have a video on readjusting the centric? Fantastic video and narration, btw.
I purchased a Sugess Chronograph for myself and a friend, and thus far I am extremely pleased. I have watches that are far more expensive and the bang for the buck with these is for real. Thanks for your content, subscribed. :)
Hi Scott... Thank you so much for mentioning this. I am convinced I just got unlucky and got the watch where tge assembler accidentally mixed up the pushers for the 38mm case with those for the 40mm case. Welcome aboard! Richard
@@richardperrettwatchmaker Interesting. I bought the 38mm "Panda" for myself and the 40mm Breitling Homage for my friend as a gift for completing airline training. I haven't spoke with him about his, but mine is running great and hasn't been off my wrist for the 2 or so months I have owned it. That said, I have an 1861 Speedmaster and the Sugess is certainly not as legible in low light as the Omega. As an aviator, the Speedy Pro is probably the handiest cockpit watch ever just because of the legibility. Still love my Seagull Chronograph though. Thanks again Richard! :).
I am lucky to own a few of these mvts in several different watch brands without any problems, they run perfectly for several years now. It is a wonderfull mvt . I love the skills you have on the lathe, great job. Thanks for sharing Richard, much appreciated.
how much was service cost ?
nuts, ive got a coupla ST19s, both solid as a rock im glad to say. Venus were bought by Valjoux and the 7733 (which was sold to Russia lock stock and machine tools) was based on a Venus calibre and developed into the chronos we all use today, most all the Swatch ones anyway.
I have the Seagull 1963 , gladly there is no plastic ring inside and it works and runs perfectly now for more than 5 years .
Those numbers for viewers are crazy 91% aren’t subscribed. Come on people subscribe. I have been following over a year. Keep up the great work Richard!!!!
Watching now. It's very welcome a video with such amount of detailing. I know this movements are derivated from Venus movements, but I'm not aware of its reliability, construction quality, etc. I intend to buy a watch with this movement soon! Thank you for this content, Richard!
Voice-activated spare hands... crucial some days! 👍😃
DONT stop talking! Richard Attenborough ain’t got nothin on ya! Nothing more relaxing than watching you work and hearing your overdub. U must’ve been a very polite major….most I’ve known did not have voices I wanted to listen to whilst trying to sleep! 😂 keep it up!
Awesome video Richard... Love your work on the lathe and other technical tools. Great job on fixing this mvt and its pushers to make the work as they're supposed to .. Excellent. Thanks for the tour.......Kudos
Thanks so much Thomas! Richard
My watch lasted 3 days. I used the pushers about three times and it seized up. I got my money back, but I really wanted the watch.
Hi Rick... That was bad luck sir! Maybe we had pieces from the same batch. My wife has decided to 'borrow' mine now she has seen the video and so I don't have one either! Hey ho, worse things happen at sea I guess. Richard
Beautiful movement, that’s how I clean my parts with a soft artist brush with cut short bristles I don’t work on enough movements to warrant spending huge money on cleaning machines plus I think it adds to the experience of a full service and rebuild when you’ve lovingly wash every single part of the watch. I did find out the hard way not to rinse hairsprings in IPA as the shellac dissolves on the end stud that controls the beat error adjustment, it’s all a learning process but all recoverable with a little patience and perseverance. 👍🙏👏
Beautiful work. I'm also a watchmaker and a I learned a few techniques from you. Thanks.
Just love these videos ... amazing skills each and every time ... insanely talented!
Thanks for your service to the country and thanks also for the great video. As always, a great learning experience. The lathe work is highly educational and interesting.
Incredible work! Much love from the United States
Thank you so much sir! Richard
Wow! I was holding my breath as you were tightening the screw while holding the blocking level against the spring. I guess it's just practice, practice, practice, but I seem to do so when placing springs of all types. Nice work!
A very big congratulations on the 100k very well deserved.
Thanks so much David! It was nice to pass that threshold for sure! Onward! Richard
This illustrates the problem with some of these micro brands that don't have a long track record in making watches. You shouldn't have had to re- make the pushers if they had been designed properly in the first place. I think people have to understand that you get what you pay for and these can't be regarded as quality movements but more of a novelty.
Well they have produced this movement in China since 1963, a pause in the 90’s I think. Not sure if it’s the same company that produce all of them, they might have factories producing them on a license.
@truxton1000 yes it would seem that the movements are made by many different factories with differing quality levels. I purchased a watch with one of these movements and the winding mechanism broke after 6 months. By the way if you look at one of these modern Chinese movements and then at original Venus movements there's no comparison particularly in the finish and quality.
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv Yes it's definately a difference in the original Venus, the question is what are these differences? Looking at a dismatled ST19 movement I got in my toolbox I can see that it's a difference in what the mainplate is made off, it seems like the Chinese use plated brass? Not sure. How precise the machining is might be pretty good, the other ST19 movement I got perform almost at good as any new Longines or Omega which is not chronometer certified, in terms of how precise it is, in all positions it runs between plus 3 to plus 10 seconds a day, beat error with dial up of down is 0.0, with crown up or down it's around 0.2-0.3, amplitude is around 300 or high 290's. The performance is also related to how well these movements are put together. Still I think when one buy one of these watches for £90 all included it's very very good value unless you get one with quality issues of course. Still it seems like most people are happy with them, I think they are (as the original venus one's also was ) a bit fragile for normal day to day use. I suspect mine will last for many years with careful use, not exposing it to huge differences in temperature/humidity, and making sure it's not dropped.
It is a shame they used the wrong size piece to hold the movement. It looks, to my eye, as though plastic would have been fine had it been the right size. Paying someone with your skills to fix that would not have been worth it. I love watching you work! Well done!
It would be a great watch if someone else was in charge of making sure there was decent quality control (and given the pushers, better design as well). I feel like we need someone to buy these, FIX them, and then sell them on as working watches (as opposed to what you might get normally). I loved watching you make the parts!
Hi David! Very good to hear from you! I have received your email and will respond very soon! My theory is the assembly guy got the pushers pot mixed up with the one meant for the 38mm case! Richard
Thanks for your service in the military 🙏
You are a true craftsman and I implicitly trust your observations regarding quality and overall assembly with confidence. I love watching you work and narrate - it's a gift to be able to do both so well! You're also channeling MacGyver in this video with the fly-tying glue and the ballpoint pen! Lol. "Reassuringly Expensive Lubricants" - you're part comedian, too, sir. It's always nice to see the family+dog getting into watchmaking. Finally, I had never considered buying a Seagull movement watch but you've opened that door for me. Seeing how they are built changed my impression of them.
Hi Alex... Such a nice comment to receive! There's quite a lot of work goes into each video so it is great to receive feedback like yours. Thank you so much! Richard
Very nice to watch the master at work
Hi John ... Very pleased you appreciated this one! Richard
Thank you for the great videos. I very much enjoy them
Always enjoy your content. It's a very good looking watch!
Hi Dave ... Very pleased you enjoyed this sir! And yes I was attracted by the looks and the movement. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
Just got a speedy homage w/ st19 movement. My start stop pusher is too long, have to reattach column wheel lever if I push too hard. Will need to grind some off eventually.
Nice to see this. I have several of this movment. At the moment I'm wearing My favourite a San Martin 62 mas chronograph. Touch wood it's been working like... Clockwork 😅
Fine work fine filmed
beautiful work!
thank you so much. I watched a very good video.
I'm planning to start overhauling watches as a hobby, so your video is really great.
I loved this vlog. My son and I bought a Seagull movement two years ago to fit in to a case. It is wonderful, only our incompetence has prevented it doing its job. Criticism? If Seagull focussed more on the 'finer' finishing of the movements then they would certainly be competing with the Swiss. My son and I eventually found a German made case with an ETA 2892 A1 movement for 'no money' and it is 'absolutely perfect'. Would I use a Seagull movement again, yes. Would I wear it with 'pride' no - quality is certainly in the detail. Great vlog. My thanks.
Interesting. I have a Sugess 1963 38mm and just checked it out. It doesn't have any extensions or movement holder probably because of the smaller diameter case. The chrono on mine works well enough but the hand doesn't always centre on reset. The main issue I have with mine is the power reserve is about 10 hours below the specified 40ish hours. I bought from a UK seller and had a replacement but that was more or less the same. I've heard others have this issue as well.
Great tutorial, thank you!!!!
Tu canal me gusta mucho sobretodo por los subtitulos
Impressive and inspiring work Richard, you have a new subscriber.
Hey thak you Marcelo! Welcome aboard sir! Richard
Merci infiniment pour ce partage. Je suis passionné d'horlogerie , habitant Chamonix juste à coté de la Suisse, et votre travail partagé, est tellement agréable à regarder. Encore merci ! Je découvre votre chaine youtube et je m'abonne immédiatement !
I don't feel guilty at all. 😁 Subscribed since I saw the first of your videos. The greatest watch channel on TH-cam if you'd ask me. Thanks for your great work.
Haha! Nice one! The world needs more men like Tobias R. for sure! Thanks fopr the support sir! Richard
Wonderfully detailed video with running commentary. You have inspired me to have a go at watch repairs myself - so thank you. Good to see you are involving your daughter in the business!
Absolutely amazing! How you can fabricate these pieces and fix this and make it usable again is astounding to me. I wonder how many people have bought this watch and have thrown it in the garbage when the same malfunction happened to them and they didn't feel like spending hundreds of dollars (or pounds) to get it fixed. So sad that a piece that could have been made correctly probably caused many watches to fail.
Anyway, thank you for the video. I'm sure that your daughter will become an expert watchmaker having both a father and teacher in you.
Absolutely correct. Unfortunately a lot of reviews make out these watches are the bees knees. I bought a watch with this movement and the winding mechanism broke after 6 months. Here he's had a problem with the column wheel and the pushers are not designed well. I think these watches could be better with improved qc.
Movement chucked in the case from 15feet 😂
Good fix there Richard 👍👍👍
Hi Kent ... Good to hear from you! And yes it was kind of satisfying to fix this one up! Hping all good with you. Richard
@@richardperrettwatchmaker Everything good this end thank you Richard.
Strange isn't it, those movements appear to be getting very fair reviews (price vs ability) but then ruined by some shoddy mounting 😉
I keep getting tempted by another Chronomat...I think I'd better take my name off the mailing list 😂😂😂
I have one of these 1963 model off ali express. Its running ok, but I just love to watch you dissect a watch...amsr.
Hi Jake.... Good to hear that your 1963 is running OK... I think I just got unlucky. I do love the st19 and it will probably serve yoy well sir! Thanks for the feedback. Richard
@@richardperrettwatchmaker Oh PS I guess Seagull make the movement and someone else cases it, hence the manky pushers...is that what you are thinking?
Lovely informative video. Keep up the excellent work. 👍🇬🇧
Thanks so much Philip! Richard
So fascinating! What a cool job.
Great video. I'd love to hear an explanation of what each part of this movement does. Furthermore, I'm interested in learning watch servicing and repair. What's the best way to go about it?
Is the lathe in the space as the watch work bench? Lots of shards of steel!
Hi Culture Vulture ... It isn't in the same room for that very reason ... it is banished with the other dust creating machines! Good point sir! Richard
Nice video! I have a couple of these movements, and I’m quite happy with them. Mainplate finish is not good and one of the cannon pinions is very tight, but what can you expect from a column wheel chronograph with this price tag?
Very pragmatic viewpoint Viktor and a tight cannon pinion is better than a loose one! Thanks for the feedback. Richard
Automatic day date is the limit of my skill, I have not tried my hand at a chronograph yet and I need to find one that is pretty simple for a beginner. Do you have any suggestions Richard? Thank.
Hi All Things M3, honesty I would start with one of these ST19 movements... They are really not very complex and plentiful. Failing that a pocket watch chronograph might suit. Everything is a bit bigger which can be helpful for a first chronograph service. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
This has always been my question with this movement, how reliable are they. I have purchased six watches with this movement in them over the past two years. I have a large collection so I have barely worn them. When I do wear them, I really don't use the chronograph. I would assume that as infrequently as I wear them they will hopefully last awhile. Do you think this flaw in the pushers is a design characteristic of the movement or does it have to do with what type of pushers the manufacturer, in this case Sugess put in the movement. Sugess is one of the biggest companies using this movement in their watches.
Well I think I just answered my own question. I just checked one of my Phylida's and I see the pushers are different. They are larger on the outside on the Phylida. I can't tell though if there is a difference in length. The pushers are also much harder to push in on the Phylida versus the Sugess. The Sugess feels much nicer.
That ST1901 is a beautiful movement. How does it compare to the Valjoux 7750?
it's why surgeons dont drink coffee
I have one of these ST1901s, but there's an issue on mine where when I press the top pusher the chronograph seconds hand sometimes flies back 1 or 3 seconds before the mechanism starts, and thus also advances the minute counter. This seems to happen especially often if I'm in a position where my watch is tilted to the left a bit compared to gravity. How might I go about fixing this?
Bit of a cheap watch, so I'd rather fix the issue myself.
Very nice job well done.
Love the Zenith like chronometer seconds hand.
Oi Richard Perret, como posso fazer pra mandar relógio pi você reparar !? Sempre assisto as tuas postagens. Obrigado, Grande Abraço.
Hi Richard, about how much would you charge for a full service on a new ST1901 watch?
veryprofessional job thank you
Well your video quality is spot on I think you deserve a battlefield commission how about colonel good job!
Now I want this watch, but in the corrected form
Good chrono movement to practice on if you don't want to damage anything valuable
Hi MrCarGuy ... It certainly is. Definitely worth spending a lot of time with the movement just to understand the basics of chronograph design and implementation without having to worry about the movement as spares (in the form of whole movements!) are very plentiful. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
How much if anything are these like the Val 7750’s?
The belt just tops it all off TGV 😊👍
Nice work, Richard. As usual. The problem I have with mine is that when I press the top pusher, The second hand moves to the 4 second mark before starting the chronograph.
I'm tempted to just leave it as it is, but it is a pity.
Is there an "easy" fix, please?
i knew it!!! SEAGULL not so good my MERKUR top hill series manual wind seems to be good so far
Ah, the video you watched from the Chinese watchmaker must be Nanjing Siyuan watch repairing company. They do own a lot of professional equipment and can even restore some really rare pieces :) And they are among some of the rare ones that also applies Epilame on critical bearings & parts too.
Did this not have an o-ring gasket on the case back?
How did you put the thread on ?
A very nice video from you (as usual) -- many thanks. But your project brings up a question: this watch failed after three months, the movement was installed improperly in the case, it had defective pushers, and other problems, and you still call it a "very attractive chronograph?"
Hi H Lebo... You raise a good point. From an engineering perspective there were obviously some pretty significant shortcomings with the wztch I received. I think the pushers probably got mixed up with ones intended for a smaller case. But most folks will probably not encounter this. Aesthetically the watch is 'very attractive' I think. I really like the look of it. I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say.
Richard
At least Bella just snored in response to your question instead of letting out a toot.
I don't know if people are always lucky and get a working, reliable watch or if I am just very unlucky !
My latest purchase, a brand new Addiesdive AD2112 must be the most inconsistently inaccurate watch even when kept fully wound and in a stationary position. It is a great pity as it is an extremely nice looking watch.
It was my first, and probably last, Aliexpress purchase. It brings home the problems that occur when you want to return something to China.
My luck really must have been out that day as they then released a quartz VH31 version which is much cheaper and will be more accurate over 1 or 2 months than the NH38 will be over a single day (or a couple of hours in my case....).
Beautiful dog
Had that same piece . Gave it ten slow winds and something snapped . I donated it to a tinkerer .
How much to service a watch like this?
Come on folks just hit the subscribe button it’s free and you won’t have to do anything other than enjoy Mr. P’s excellent videos. The man is truly an artist the way he treats a $200 Chinese watch with the same care and precision as he would on a $15.000 Rolex! Keep up the good work Mr. P! Cheers.
Every watch is valued by its owner. Therefore it should indeed be treated with respect by others as well. The only junk is YOUR junk. Other people never own junk. That's how I see things anyway.
I agree they are good 👍 but as any chronos ... could need a "small to full" service (all chronos are in this category)
⚠ ♻ i search-buy these ST19 chrono (Sugess Alpha Seagull 1963) as non working for repair / parts ♻ ...
very good for a beginner (but no spare parts 😪 ... only stem could be found in detail,
¿ even dial / set of hands ? any advice other than alpha-watches ? 🤔)
A nice one.
Thanks Sidewalk Astronomy Netherlands! Richard
11:00 for the math I am with you brother. thank you for your videos.
are these actually blued screws or just coloured?
I have a Seagull 1963 (from Long Island Watch) that won’t wind. When I try as soon as I let go of the crown it spins backwards. So far two watchmakers say they can’t fix it. Ugh! - Aaron
Hi Aaron... Ironically., given your TH-cam 'handle' the symptom you describe is consistent with a defective 'click mechanism'.... If so, and of course it might be something else, it should be reasonably easy to fix. Hope you can get it sorted. Thanks for the feedback. Richard
mine one stops when in a certain angle, its good enough to use as fashion but i am never able to trust it, its the sugess breitling bo1 premier homage, its so pretty so its a shame, sound like the balance starts rubbing against something at that angle and if you hold it long enough it stops
Watching all those expensive oils and greases being applied reminded me of a quick hack I would use in my watch building days. I would first dismantle the watch, clean it and rebuild it dry. Then - when fully assembled I would give it a thorough soaking in WD 40, leave it a couple of hours, then blow all the excess oil out with a high preasure air nozzle. Saved ages! TBH I only rebuilt one stopwatch that got ruined when the dive supervisor fell in the 'ogin! But it was a very succesful rebuild .... when I finished that stopwatch could do an hour in about 25 minutes! RESULT!!
Thanks 👍
Flot informativ video. Jeg skal lige høre. Er du dansker, men med en meget fin engelsk accent ?
Superb. Plz make next video and briefly define chronograph function and wheels i m waiting. I m new on your chanel i subscribed
Wearing my Seagull 1963 today funnily enough, been very lucky with mine, probably isn't a legit Seagull one as was an Ali Express jobby
Most of them are legitimate, especially if it's a real Seagull watch
What does Skoshi Musokashi mean?
少し難しい... a little bit difficult. Richard (リチャード)
Thanks for the great video! How long does that grease last you? 😂