Classic Style for Women: Is Timeless Ladies' Clothing Possible?
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- Today, we finally answer why we don't talk about classic style for women--and why there's no "Lady's Gazette!"
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00:00 Introduction
First of all, one of the reasons we love classic men's style is that it's just that -- classic. Now, classic, when refers to clothes, typically means a garment or design of an elegant style that is not greatly subject to changes in fashion. About three times a week we get asked if there is a Lady's Gazette, why we are not having one, and if we can point people in the right direction, and why we are not covering women's topic in the first place. Unfortunately, we can't and won't venture to oblige to you.
00:54 1. It's simply not our realm of expertise.
05:09 2. There was no true "golden era" of women's fashion.
06:20 3. Women's trends are generally more extreme than men's trends.
08:27 4. Today, women have a much broader and more varied wardrobe than they used to.
09:20 5. The average quality of womenswear is lower than that of menswear.
11:30 Channels to check out for classic (or modern) women's style
12:32 Book about classic women's style
13:13 Outfit Rundown
What are your thoughts on this topic? Share with us in the comments! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
If anyone is paying attention, Raphael is literally giving a blueprint to start a successful Ladies Gazette channel.
We'd be happy to guide people to it.
I am still looking for it here... but...
But you are missing his comment that classic women's clothing is not of the high quality to last years, nor does it have the 'CLASSIC' , basic style that lasts years either. Women's style, classic or not, has too many iterations to pin down over the decades. This was an in-depth analysis of WHY women's classic looks cannot be pinned down as succinctly as men's. BRILLIANT !
Design Organize Exactly. Every woman who keeps a "classic" constant style is at times called dated and hopeless, excentric.
I recently listened to a pod about among others Diane Keaton, who apparently has made a come back as a style icon, after being out in the cold., and ridiculed. Real classic women are at times 180 degrees wrong, and then back at 360 and zero, and absolutely right.
I love this. Love the classic ladies wear idea. I only wear skirt and dresses though
Thanks for the mention and for your generosity!
I believe both of our channels are about tailoring and shoe making & how wearing handmade items can create emotion.
I started wearing handcrafted classic clothing/shoes in order to know my subject. However, as a woman in business, it's been a shock to see how adopting quality classic style has helped me move forward, and made it easier to keep up with the guys (literally, when walking in my oxfords, instead of wobbling around in high heels on the cobbled streets of Europe). Cheers ! ~Sonya
Dear Sonya, please do consider making some videos showcasing your style and how you go about it as a woman/your philosophy/making sure the quality is right/where you might shop including women’s shoes and coats etc. This video made me realize that there must be plenty of women interested, just like me, and it is so hard to find sources online when it comes to menswear for women. All the best!
@@CupOfTees Of course I can do it, staying focused on "women's tailoring" and steering away from attitudes of why a woman would ever want to wear trousers in the first place (a question which stupefies me, as I guess if any man could be a woman for a year, he would want to wear trousers too).
Tailoring a feminine jacket is an art of which maybe 20 percent of the (many) tailors I've met across the world is even willing to try.
Thank you for your comment and if I may end with an excerpt from museeyslparis quoting Women's Wear Daily :
A year after the tuxedo, Yves Saint Laurent proposed his first pantsuit in his Spring-Summer 1967 collection. It was an unusual design for a suit, which was traditionally worn with a skirt. Just as he did for the tuxedo, Saint Laurent adapted the traditionally masculine suit for the female body. The sleeves were fitted and the waist belted, while the wide pants were flattering for the legs. He added typically female accessories, such as heels and jewelry, but still had his model wear a necktie and felt hat.
American women are going to want to burn all the clothes they have when they see this ... Saint Laurent's new Vastsuits in men's wear fabrics are the sensation of the Paris season ... What a show-it could have come right off Broadway.
Women’s Wear Daily, January 31, 1967.
Cheers, ~Sonya
SARTORIAL TALKS I have nth metres of a nice purple check in thickish silk i purchased from a nice expat brit fellow in HK when I went to his house near the old kaipat airport I've no idea what to do with. I'm not even sure its a good quality weave. Its just sitting here at my house.
@@SARTORIALTALKS This sounds like exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for!
I never expected GG to create a ladies channel, but hoped for a women's channel w/similar information, style and integrity. Now I know why! Sadly our clothes weren't made well enough to withstand the test of time. Even allowing for the fashion swings, there are still classic women's styles that can be worn today without looking like a costume. Justine's channel is a wonderful resource for current fashion! She speaks to quality, classic style & sustainability, which if our clothes had from the getgo, I've no doubt there would be a Ladie's Gazette! Absolutely love your channel and applaud you for taking the time to speak to so many of your female fans. Congratulations Preston on your recent marriage, I hope it's as enduring and beautiful as the fashion you represent.
We know a sizeable number of women comment and check out our channel so we wanted to address this question, answer it, and guide you to other women who cover things. Thanks for watching and spreading the word about us!
Quite a thoughtful comment.
I used to work in women's fashion in an upscale department store in my youth! LOL! The clothes were well made then. I guess that is why I have a hard time with clothing now. The fabrics and cuts are cheap. The help to show how clothes were to fit is no longer apart of the department store practices. So sad.
Fast fashion is horrible on so many levels
Ugh a *Lady's Gazette* would be amazing😍 but women's style is an entirely different ball game, but luckily there are people who speak on this!
I'm planning on starting a Lady's Gazette, but it'll be focused on Vietnamese fashion. If you're interested in a Lady's Gazette on Western fashion, perhaps you can search up some existing ones or even better, start your own!
@@thaothelazycat930 Super duper curious. Keep me posted?
@@SansAziza Sure
Don't feel like you need to talk about women's style and clothing!! Literally your channel is about menswear and that's what we are here for. Despite that some of your videos have been very helpful for me personally (especially your color theory video) and I make better choices when picking outfits for my dad and I feel so proud when my boyfriend gets complimented on the shirt that I chose for him!
Signed,
A 19yo female viewer who's been watching you since age 14-15. ☺️❤️ Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Cute!
Thanks for your comment Shaira, we just get this question so often, and we do care about our female audience as well, so we wanted to do this video. On top of that, now say "check out this video|" when we get that question...
Congratulations.
Few women can understand the literal theme of a channel or anything. Free of hate.
Your family and boyfriend must be so proud of you.
@@GFKCEG I don't think that alone is something to be proud of 😅 my boyfriend actually thinks I'm crazy. Can't blame him though I have an obnoxious jewelry collection and bought two pairs of high heels in less than a month recently. It's totally unnecessary 😂
Please stop infiltrating to India, you are not welcome ...
Almost all of the Gentleman's Gazette information can be applied to women. Some of us like to wear suits and follow the "men's" fashion rules too!
Yes and know. Concepts of quality, all the fabrics, and fit yet. Shoes to a certain extent, but we do not talk about handbags for example....
@@gentlemansgazette Well, if you carry a leather satchel or a tote bag, or anything really, you use the same principles of good taste as you would if you were buying the same thing for a woman
I love the parts about different fabrics and stitches ...
I get it, but I wish there were a channel like this for women. Women’s fashion is varied because it follows trends, but there are classic staples in women’s fashion.
There’s a lot of women fashion focused TH-cam channels on classic and vintage women’s style
Those are called "Try on Hauls"
@@GFKCEG No they aren't.
@@vintageenthusiast23 look it up
@Heiliger Katholik historically, petticoats and undergarments
I'm quite glad the Gentleman's Gazette decided to acknowledge and articulate their stance on this subject. I hope your video essay inspires people who would like to take your points as a launch pad into identifying what would define classic women's style. Great video! Never thought to ask this particular question but it is nonetheless a good one to have and answer because your channel is an excellent source of educational material for men so I do see why those interested in women's wear would seek your editorial approach and techniques.
Thank you for so eloquently stating what so many women of this channel would love to see!
Well, their stance wasnt that "surprising" or "revealing".
If you truly watch the channel you could be aware of his philosophy and area of expertise.
I mean, *"GENTLEMAN'S"* Gazette is named for something.
I adore Rachek Maksy and The Closet Historian. As a man, I always enjoy their videos because I can always learn domething about classic womens clothing which is as amazing and beautiful (maybe even more so than) classic menswear.
I like Rachel Maksy too, though her chosen vintage style does rather illustrate Raphael's point that women's clothing dates more than men's does over a shorter time! Someone else I've started watching recently who also does vintage clothing is Evelyn Wood, who takes more modern clothing (in natural fibres!) and alters them to a more vintage look.
For more modern clothing inspiration, Use Less, Audrey Coyne, Justine Leconte, Alyssa Beltempo and Marie-Anne LeCoeur are all really good l.
I swear you’re every channel’s comment section 😂
@@ladydee4692 Not EVERY channel s but a lot of them, yeah.
@@Teverell Bernadette banner is quite interesting too
I think that’s something that many women would like to address. Some women really hate the way that “classic” is this often referred to moving target in women’s wear, difficult to define and even harder to hit. Every woman needs to navigate the expectations of how they’ll be perceived - we literally aren’t able to just put clothes on for work, for example, without taking every detail of social context into account. Do I look too aggressive? Am I sending the wrong message wearing a this knee length skirt? Do I look too soft? Too feminine? Too masculine? What color will the people in this meeting pay attention to, but not too much attention, but also not too little attention? Can I wear this again so soon? Women get a lot of conflicting messages about their clothes. (If a woman is already in a position where they don’t need to think about it, they’re honestly lucky.)
I’ve been researching tailoring to make myself a properly tailored jacket, I’ve been preparing to slow down and do a lot of the work by hand, and it’s like at some point someone arbitrarily made this decision that women’s blazers should just have less structure. One book I got my hands on even suggested that the amount of structure common in men’s suiting is “unflattering” on a woman. It’s a pain. Women want well-constructed clothing that lasts, too, it’s just an exceptionally difficult thing to find. I’ve only even begun to nail down my own definition of classic by making my own clothes.
Anyway, I landed on this channel because I have a general interest in tailoring, and I have no problem with these videos sticking to menswear as they’ve been interesting and informative on that front.
Very well said! It's the sartorial tightrope of assertive versus aggressive. Best of luck on your designing/tailoring : >
yeah if it is about details women have it so much harder. From the 1970 to mid 2000s you always had been safe with an overall suit combo for women be it the smaller clerk at the bank, middle management or the CEO. But the last years this look is considered more old fashioned and stiff expect you are an advocat and you have to wear more modern blazer and blouse cuts which are mostly more on the overized side and it is annyong for many.
Fashionistas maybe like all the possiblities but for people not so much interested in fashion it is pure stress. In fact I started looking fashion content on youtube for exact that reason.
I can see a lot of these points, but I'm at the age where I don't flipping care--my work clothes are my work clothes to be functional. But I had to change that paradigm slightly because now I moved up and don't work on the floor anymore. I have a desk job. I've completely cut casual wear out of wardrobe because I'm always in work clothes. Be it the fancy desk ones or the farm ones when I'm out of there. Which sucks in a way because they're tailored for men--the most durable coveralls chafe my thighs because crotch drop lol.
I am fan of gentlemen gazette because of your lifestyle videos. Anyway I was very happy about this video.... And yes you are right 30's and 40's ladies fashion is some kind of hobby for me but it draw more attention as I would like to
I like womans fashion from 1940's, especially those hats and turbans
Same!
@@QUARTERMASTEREMI6 ঘু
@唐三藏 trashbags for cultures who enslave women
I like the 20s for wemen’s clothes but that’s just me.
@@mateiaprozianu3289 in my opinion 1940's were superglamourous with fancy hats, gloves...
i think it's great how you focus on menswear, since every time i research about fashion it's basically centered on women's fashion so more information on men's fashion is really welcome
I was just thinking about this yesterday as I was browsing a thrift store😅
Check out Akil McLeod. He's a professional thrifter.
Women's sense of fashion is just too broad to categorize. Every piece of clothing/accessories is an endless mix and match, whereas men's has this kind of common ground
Correct. That’s what Raphael was referring to when he said there is no foundation on women’s clothing but there is for men (i.e. the suit).
@@eyeheartsushi2212 women used to wear dresses now they hardly do
@@thomaspatrickparker6648 Lots of women wear dresses i dont know where you live
@@MikuHatsune12 I live in America, the vast majority of women atleast my age wear a dress once or twice a year. It used to be considered crossdressing for a woman to wear pants lol
Women's fashion also has no real "rules". There's such a large variation in what they can get away with wearing and still look good. Men, not so much.
I forwarded this to my girl friend. She loved it
My second comment - one channel recommendation I suggest is Bernadette Banner: she is a dress historian on the TH-cam who sews clothing as a method of teaching, and I've learned a lot about quality indicators (since nearly any vintage clothing from over seventy years ago is likely to be much higher quality than your average garment today).
Another thing that I have found crucial is owning a swatch book, and a fashion textbook. I have two: "Fabric for Fashion: The Swatch Book, 2nd edition" by Clive Hallett and Amanda Johnson, and "The Fashion Designer's Textile Directory," by Gail Baugh. Both are good companions to each (though they are fine on their own) and build a foundational understanding of the structure and textiles used in our clothes. The swatch book helps with understanding the feel of textiles, blends, and weaves so that you know what you're buying, and why it's like that.
I'd also suggest, fellow women, to look into any of the myriad seamstress channels that will give you a rundown of stitch types. This indicates the amount of minutes or hours that went into a garment (thus often a quality indicator), and it is well worth understanding the difference between a french seam and an overlocked edge.
Bernadette is not a classic womens clothing channel shes a historical garment seamstress and while the things you said are great to understand the technical side of clothing, they arent exactly the equivalent to this channel
Dont suggest "fellow women".
Women can look up and find anything they want.
Its not like women like to dress in line as any other "fellow woman".
Men wear uniforms.
Women wear what they want.
@@GFKCEG it certainly wasn't meant as anything rude, as you took it, nor was it advice to "wear a uniform." It referenced understanding garment construction via stitch types, which I personally find helpful to understand garment quality, regardless of the type of clothing worn. Cheers!
@@MikuHatsune12True, she isn't! I wouldn't consider Karolina a classic women's clothing channel either, also more of a historian, so that's why I suggested Bernadette. There isn't an equivalent to the Gentlemen's Gazette that I've found for women's clothing, unfortunately. I've learned a lot historical garment evolution, as well as what to look for in a wardrobe from Bernadette regarding clothing quality (which is my main gripe with women's clothing, if you couldn't tell :) ), as well as from many of the other channels suggested in the video, hence the suggestion.
the flipside of this is that women often have avenues of self-expression in their clothes that men dont. certain silhouettes and aesthetics are simply not at all available to men in the way they are to women, largely because theres no real demand for it i imagine.
Hm, I disagree on a few points. Yes, there absolutely are "foundational" pieces in womenswear! Every woman needs a "little black dress", a pencil skirt, a summer dress, a cocktail dress, a few cardigans, blouses, a wool overcoat and, possibly, a fur coat, and some nice shoes of various heel hight, as well as some elegant flat shoes. Those are the absolutely necessary pieces for a lady to dress for office or social events. Some women, obviously, live with only very casual clothing in their closets, just like many men don't own a single article of tailored clothing.
Speaking of a "golden age" of women's fashion, it absolutely corresponds with the "golden age" of men's fashion, and that is roughly the time period between the 1920's and the 1960's. Those decades still influence fashion today.
That being said, certain items of casual clothing that appeared during the "cultural revolution" of the 1960's and 70's have become true icons of western fashion -- blue jeans, t-shirt, mini skirts, white sneakers. All these casual items can certainly be worn in a tasteful and "classy" manner. An elegant lady today can absolutely seek inspiration in the fashions of the middle of the last century, without looking outdated.
It is a pity that there don't seem to be channels and blogs for women that are the equivalent of some of the most popular menswear blogs and channels. Many young women could learn a lot about how to dress and look appropriate.
You seem to be forgetting that not all women are western and are feminine.
@@agirlwithdreams15 what's your point? Not all man are masculine and western as well, so?
High five!
I can't wear heels and I own a sum total of one skirt which isn't a pencil skirt. I think the most important thing any woman can do is to find her own style and what she feels comfortable in that resonates with her. These days, I think that a nice pair of flat shoes and a good pair of evening trousers is just as acceptable as a dress at most evening events (probably not black tie, though - but how many of us attend formal black tie events anyway, and renting a dress for such an event is far more sustainable and better for the bank account than buying one that's just going to hang in the wardrobe for the next two years).
As I commented elsewhere, there are numerous channels on TH-cam for women of all ages who want to learn about style - Alyssa Beltempo, Audrey Coyne, Lauren McKinney, Use Less, Christie Ressel, Marie-Anne Lecoeur, Justine Leconte, Emily Wheatley, Emma Hill, Style at a Certain Age, Dressed For My Day - and those are just the ones I know of and watch.
I've thought about this many times, and my thoughts match your's. Another topic that might be covered by this channel, what styles in women's clothing best pair with men's classic styles? Maybe, 10 women's outfits that looks great when paired with a man wearing classic style.
If you make a historical men's clothing video, it becomes classic men's wear video.
But if you make a historical women's clothing video, it becomes a fashion history video.
That is what I understood from this video.
I've watched a lot of womenswear videos, and you're right, they're always more history oriented. However, they usually have a section on how to pull it off in the 21st century.
I agree ☝🏻 Women styles are too varied. I enjoy your videos because I sew 🧵 for a multitude of people. I find it informative and educational. No doubt, men’s classic fashion is historical.
I'm a woman, and I spent 2 weeks trying to figure out what clothes I wanted to wear. And I didn't. I decided to change my style from jeans and t-shirts to classic, elegant, chic clothes. But with Gentleman's Gazette, I knew what I needed in 3 days: colors, quality, it all was clear. I needed to make some adjustments with a tailor's help, but I knew all the basics. For that thank you very much. You gave me a simple foundation from which I can do whatever I want without any worries about: "Oh my gosh, what to wear?" I wear dove grey gloves with my black coat ;). Who taught me gloves? You did. Later I began to watch a few women's channels to learn about silk scarves, etc. Your channel has been very helpful and interesting for me.
0:32 Raphael and the boys going to town to teach those who have a pocket square matching their ties a lesson... In style, obviously!
Someone adapted a Gentleman's Gazette rap the other day, it's quite funny.
Carl Trotter Can you link it, or you mean it was in the Comments Section?
@@eyeheartsushi2212 It was in the comments section for one of TH-cam's new 'Story' things.
Carl Trotter Gotcha. Thanks.
Sonya from Satorial talks is an ANGEL, Mr. Hugo Jacomat made a fantastic choice
@Bernadette Banner is also worth checking out, though I'd characterize her channel as more 'historical' than 'classic'; she has a video that is the best explanation I've ever seen of how stitching shapes collars and lapels.
Yes, I'm a big fan (especially for the excellent editing in her videos), but it clearly shows the contradiction in women's clothing. As a man, you couldn't show yourself on the street in Victorian or Edwardian dress without being ridiculed, even having a hat will draw attention, and not always positive. A woman will stand out in vintage clothing, a lot, so it takes a strong sense of individual taste to overcome the allure of current fashion, but I feel it is more readily accepted.
Thank you for addressing this! I've been very interested and inspired by this channel since March of 2020 and have always been quite frustrated by the thought of not being able to incorporate elements of classic men's fashion into my wardrobe simply because I am a woman. I'm also happy to see that I'm not the only one here who feels this way, it's a very freeing feeling! Keep up the good work! ♡
I respect very much that you know where your interests and your expertise lie and where they don't. One of the reasons I like your channel is that you have such enthusiasm for your subject, and that enthusiasm clearly comes from the fact that you wear these clothes yourselves.
Women's fashion changes so much that it really is hard to make a staple
You say dated like it's a bad thing, but as a guy, I go out of my way to wear older/outdated looks, I never much cared to be 'in the trend'. Like stuff from the 30's and 40's. And as a guy, I like the 'dated' women's fashion. If I saw a lady around my age wearing a classic style from back then, I'd go out of my way to meet her, and that's coming from a shy teen!
There are definitely going women interested in vinage and historical dress.
10:08 "So that begs the question..."
No, it *raises* the question.
As a woman i love watching your channel.
Your information about materials made me deciding to stop buying fast fashion and go for taylor made.
Also your infomation for taking care of garments saved a lot them!!!
Keep up the good work! Love to see there are still man who doesn’t only wear sweats and T-shirts!!!!!
Why haven’t they started a lady’s gazette? Gee, because they’re men who enjoy classic men’s style. I don’t get why people ask that.
We didn't all ask that he start one, but if there was something he could recommend. The quality of content is amazing and such a wonderful resource! Women's classic fashion resources on the other hand... lol
I asked in GG few years ago because I have 3 very young daughters, and I wanted to properly educate and inspire the value of classic clothing as fashions are a bit crazy nowadays lol.
@@redx603 . If my children ever dress inappropriate for the occasion I don't know what I would do. I get extremely angry (on the inside) when my parents dress incorrectly. best believe my kid is going to have all the suits to dress properly. Yet again I am going to be working in the finance field where it is necessary
Nowadays women are all about supporting women and looking for women owned shops, etc. I don't get why people would want Men to tell them how to dress and behave like older times all over again.
Thank you for sharing this content. You confirmed many of my thoughts on women’s fashion as compared to menswear. I loved learning about men’s fashion by shopping with my father. I grew to the place of picking out his outfits for events. It was delightful and a joyous time for us to share. I even have some of his special pieces in my closet. Thank you again for your thoughts and wisdom on fashion!
I am a woman and watch your channel as your tips helped me with shaving my legs as I always get cuts...thanks gentlemen
Thank you so much for pointing us to Sonya Glyn!! I can’t wait to check out all the Sartorial Talks content.
Glad you mentioned Karolina :)
I'd also recommend the Rachel Review
Interesting, thanks for sharing. We'll check it out
Best video from this channel yet!
Keep them coming!
So glad you guys mentioned Karolina Żebrowska, I thought of her as soon as I read the title of the video!
Thank you for the video and for the lady wear channel suggestions
Really good video and always admire how you combine outfits as it always looks very precise!
Also other honourable mentions I think for women's style is Audrey Coyne who concentrates on sustainable classic women's style and under same lines also Alyssa Beltempo who concentrates on sustainable classic yet eclectic style! For young audiences I highly recommend Freddie My Love and Fashion Mumbler who both concentrate on influencing classic sophisticated style for (typically younger girls)!
omg I literally watch all of those channels you reccomended!!
they're amazing :)
One of your best videos, Raphael. Bravo!
I LOVE Justine and Sonya! Great choices.
I've always wanted to ask if there was a channel similar to the Gentleman's Gazette for ladies. Thank you for this video! I really like the quality of this channel!
I dress mostly androgynously that’s why i like this channel
You might enjoy witnessing the men from Devil May Cry games. (Dante, Vergil, Nero.) They have interesting clothes.
@@SansAziza thank you! I will! I haven't played the game, but i just might
SansAziza SAME! I find that I get great tips for both my "womenswear" outfits and my "menswear" ones too
@@agirlwithdreams15 love the fact that we both have curly hair lol
Koko Jakes me too!
I think it’s proof positive of the difficulty and nuance in women’s fashion with how challenging it is to buy an article of clothing, with confidence, for a woman as a gift without her having to pick it out.
Short of small things like earrings, necklace or a scarf, it feels like a gamble.
Whereas for a man, one could gift a shirt, tie, pocket square, overcoat, gloves, etc - all a matter of what budget you’re into and with some degree of confidence if you generally know the guy’s style.
My personal favourite era for lady's fashion is most definitely the Edwardian era, as it is with men's fashion as well.
My Godness. I am addicted to this channel. I always recommend it to my brothers. 😍❤
Sonya at Sartorial Talks! Yes! She is wonderfully knowledgable, has a great eye, and talks beautifully about the joys of fashion. Absolutely women interested in using men’s suiting she view her videos! Also, men interested in men’s suiting should watch her videos! Anyone who wears any clothing at all should watch her videos!
Thanks! Anyway you give me a lot of advices for my palette color and for my wardro! 😍🥰 I love you guys!
So glad to see Justine LeConte mentioned in this video. Her videos are incredible.
Good video. Quite informative.
OMG FINALLY, I have been requesting this video for about 5 years.
Stick to what you do best and concentrate on that. Great channel, I’ve learned a lot about men’s fashion
Thank you for recommending these channels, sir. I was trying to find something about female clothes to learn about them and improve my English.
I myself have been trying to research women’s classic fashion, and Sven is correct, it’s extremely difficult to pin point just one thing. Women’s style ever changing, and it changes faster than men’s fashion. There are less rules too. Which can make things even more difficult. The closest you can get is just by following classic french women’s style. And taking a look at Coco Chanel’s classic garments.
This was really helpful! Thank you! :)
Great video as always. I would also mention Bernadette Banner. She is a very nice, sensitive and intelligent young woman making video about vintage clothing , especially inspired from late 19th century. I really love her style. It’s so classic but alternative at the same time. Actually the ideal look of women for me.
The ones you mention are my favorite top TH-camr channels I enjoy watching. Except I was not aware of Karolina Zebrowska and SatorialTalks. Thanks for information. But I have watched your channel many times for guidance when I shop for my sons. And the Redboat fish sauce you suggested in one of your video’s is so good for my salmon.
What's timeless would be a wedding gown, especially the luxurious ones with jewelled ornaments, such as those that belong to the UK royal family.
This was a very tasteful and insightful video. I also agree with the notion of staying in one's own lane.
As much as I love classic menswear in my personal wardrobe, I love learning about women's fashion more than I do about menswear. Just as you said, the variety is just so much bigger now. Also the changes over time in history are interesting in comparison to what happened in the world. I don't recall who said it, but fashion is not an island, it's a response.
I been very curious my self on why I could not find a basic classic style for women. now knowing that it's much more complicated and more rapid now I understand why. Also it makes sense that a Channel called Gentleman's Gazette has men that just enjoy classic men outfits just has classic men style and things for gentlemen.
I absolutely love that Karolina and Justine are at the top of your rec list.
I will check out Sonja Glyn, because I'm hanging around this channel to pick up ideas for wearing men's classic style as a woman. I think finding a good alterations tailor is definitely in my future if I want to pull it off, but luckily I have little interest of looking feminine so needing things to be super fitted is unnecessary.
I liked this and I don’t see why you even needed to address this but tasteful done as expected x
Hi there. Absolutely love the content you share.
Waiting for a ladies gazette channel
Keep growing.
All the best
You stay doing what you do best only.
Polish names vs every other language... It's really amazing to see You trying to pronounce "Karolina Żebrowska" correctly. And You were very close to that, so - congratulations!
Im a woman, and I love this chanel for what it is. Much of the advice here can cross over and be applied to womans wear too.
Thank you!
I, as a men, can recommend men to get some insights into womens fashion and clothes.
-I learnt from women which colors go well together. Maybe because womens clothes are more colorful in general so they have to think more about combining colors.
-Justin leconte has some nice videos about capsule wardrobe. (The thing that Antonio RealMenRealStyle recommends) In her videos she's talking about combining pants, shirts and sweaters (not skirts or dresses), so as a man you could easily adapt this to your own wardrobe. I'd like to see some cooperation.
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I am personally very glad he addressed it. He's very honest. I did wish he would earlier but he's being very logical about it. I personally dislike trends and love clothing that withstand time. Things that are timelessly elegant. And Theresa is his wife ?! They look so good together. Perfectly matched ! Why didn't I know this ?
For me the epitome of elegance. Nr 1 is Audrey Hepburn with her Givenchy clothes. Of course superb elegance you will see from the English royalty and gentry. The problem for woman is they cannot have a micro wardrobe like men as in one of your videos. They cannot have 3 dresses and combine them with vests and accessories and get a new attire out of it. They need new dresses every day and they wear one dress maybe 1 or 2 a month especially that woman remember very well all the dresses of their likes therefore no woman like to be perceived as 'look at her! she is wearing that same dress again' . So their wardrobe is easily 5x larger then men's. And yes there are some timeless elegant clothes with quality BUT they will need to visit the houses of Chanel Fendi Dior Valentino and the like where $1000 is where all begins with sky being the limit (poor chap will need a limitless credit card). By the way for men's style I go as much as possible with classic English. Think about David Niven and others. Keep your great work Gents. I learned so much and improved a lot.
A number of women TH-camrs (such as Jennifer L. Scott over at The Daily Connoisseur) are showing us their _capsule wardrobes_ or 10 item wardrobes. ;-) We have to be wise... yes, people will remember that wildly patterned dress, or the one in a super bright color, or the one with the crazy avant-garde cut etc. So those should not be a core piece. Variety can be had with accent pieces such as scarves. It can be done.
I think classic women's fashion would be around 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s with less extreme variations of 70s and 80s. Karolina Zebrowska is perfect example that some items she wears are brand new but still look period, yet can be worn today even by an ordinary person. 30s silky gowns, 40s skirts and jackets, 50s dresses and pants, 60s dresses and pants. Trends since 2000s seem to simply draw inspiration from the past decades. A gentleman in a suit still stands out from a man who wears a tee and ripped jeans. Same with women who like elegant and timeless styles, they look different from jeans and tee wearing women.
Thank you for clarification. I already know and love Karolina's channel as she is really an expert on women's fashion history.
Suits are more on the classical side for women in my opinion as I probably could wear the one I wore for my school graduation and not feel dated... if I'd still fit into it!
Same with shoes. The more "masculine" the shoes, the more likely you can wear them through the ages. Well, besides plain, single color pumps. They are a true classic.
Dresses and blouses tend to go in periods and what's considered "hip style" today is half of the items I wore when I was a teen. Fabric the same... lace was considered extremely dated when I was young, but fortunately it came back in the 201xs.
I would also like to lament the lack of quality fabric in many women's items and I absolutely loathe the fast fashion trends...
And she's funny!
Wasn't there another video earlier? Keep up the good work always love the content!
It seems odd that women are asking men about women's fashion when there are countless TH-cam channels that focus on women's fashion.
Great video
I like this channel alottt
Great video. And regarding quality of clothing...my husband bought a t-shirt from Topman and the quality of fabric, cut and sewing are very good! For the same quality I would have to pay much more...and your channel is still informative and entertaining for women. I am a way better shopping companion for my husband now ;-)
My woman wears hats with veils and long gloves, both in many colors. She looks stunning when we go out, especially on the holidays.
5:06 I personally think that a prime era of women's "classic fashion" that corresponds with classic men's fashion was probably 1890s 1919, although I am fond of the 1970s and 1980s young adult fashion..
Bernadette Banner is a REALLY good TH-cam Channel for Woman’s Fashion and I like to watch Shirinatra too
Another great video as always, I hope you get to see this Raphael as I have been following your channel for quite a while and love the job you make in teaching us about man's fashion and other gentleman's subjects, but I have been wondering, have you ever considered opening a gentleman's gazette reddit? That way people can interact more and find others with similar taste in clothing and other subjects, also it would make it great for people to ask stuff they don't know about and create a community and, if there's already a community expand it.
We have found that user from reddit are not interested in our website content, emails or videos. Reddit is high on the drama and if you want to find useful information you have to dig through loads of off topic and unstructured information first.nsonno, I do not see us getting engaged in reddit anytime soon to be honest.
@@gentlemansgazette TH-cam never notified me of this reply, thank you so much for answering and well, I understand, it is indeed quite a shame, perhaps a facebook group so people can interact a bit more? I'm aware of the page you guys have there, but a group would make it even better, if it is not in your interest, would you mind if someone created a group that has Gentleman's Gazette on it?
FINALLY! TH-cam algorithm has been pushing me to watch GG videos for years now even though I'm a woman, and there is finally a video that concerns me. THANK YOU!
yeah Karolina!!!!
If someone could pioneer a timeless women's uniform, with a similar function to the suit, they would make a fortune.
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I don't know about foundational, but ladies suits can also be quite timeless. I am thinking of skirt suits from the 30s and 40s for example.
Good video. I find the presence of so much colour in women's style interesting, and even a bit counter-intuitive, as I would have expected men to be going for the peacock effect, rather than staying in such tight lanes lol. I find the only area where I stray from classic style is in terms of colour. Women get away with wearing a lot of colour, and just about any particular colour, whereas men are not given the same latitude in that respect. So I'll usually wear peculiar colours, but with otherwise classical style. I guess there is a risk of looking dated (e.g., with a dark purple suit, as opposed to a typical dark blue one), but not so much if what you wear otherwise adheres to the tenets of classic men's fashion.
Talbots is an example of classic women’s style today! Timeless trousers blazers blouses etc., all very well made. There are a slew of videos on You Tube for the classic 5 piece “French wardrobe” for women which in my view is essential timeless and classic.
6:23 call me outdated or old fashioned but I love those outfits. They are classy. There is this slim fit and cropped woman jeans epidemic on the streets of Chicago.
Waghman's fashion trends die faster than flies.
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I can agree with most of what was said, but I will argue that corsets/stays are functional. Recently, women have been wearing decorative items and calling them corsets, but corsets (and before that stays) were undergarments EXACTLY like bras. They had a use and were less relevant to fashion in their looks than in their use. That changed when corsets had a resurgence in the late 20th century, but it is more of a costume now for the majority of its history.
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I would suggest Audrey Coyne who works with classic style and quality garments.
🤗 I have the original Ladies book edition 2002 and it is one of my favorites books. If you recomended it I like it even more.
There are other channels that cover women's clothing.