I'm not particularly an expert on Plymouth but most of those old engines that set for a long time lose compression like that, if you put a couple of teaspoons of gear oil in each piston it should give you enough compression to start it up, once you do that and run it through a few heat cycles you should get your rings back and have compression again.
I love the car, definitely do more vidéos on it, it deserves to run and drive again, big finned cars got the style to stand out in the crowd, it commands attention.
@@WONtothaG , so? At least he will not be an envirotard that ironically ruins the environment more than the people that drive classic vehicles like this one.
I'm for keeping patina on cars if there's enough restored already. Yeah, they're pretty looking like they're new, but some of them I feel get their life erased when restored. Fix the rot, interior and everything else, but I say leave the patina.
Dang, the 58 Plymouth Savoy/Belvedere/Fury is my dream car. I also fell in love after reading Christine. Excellent find! Would love to see you bring this one back to life! It will be well worth it when all is said and done.
Rip it down to the frame restore each part, media blast the frame and weld where needed . Order new front end and up date rear from summit and re assemble the glass can be made or maybe a swap find . Remake and retro mod the interior incl under dash AC. Yes that is about 20k invest but a show car when done.
@@davecharles5212 or clean the existing paint and clear coat it to keep the patina, swap in a modern drive train from a 5,7 hemi car. That would be awesome too.
@@mraycgz if you put a hemi in why would you not do body work and paint ? I guess nobody knows how too paint cars anymore ? I hate the patina ! Call it what it is if your going too do that ( rust bucket)
would rec: add some marvel into the top of each cylinder and sit for a few days. a new starter may be needed because being a 12v car it should crank much faster, I would like to see the flathead 6 stay in the car. could also use a leak down tester to try to see if rings or valves or head gasket . keep going and best regards
@@arthurroosa9197 It started the first time, so it did have some compression. The second time, it sounded at times as if it was firing too soon, trying to drive the engine backwards. That tells me the cam timing jumped - if the cam timing jumps, ignition timing will also be off, as the distributor is driven by the oil pump, which is driven by the camshaft.
When she fired up and was idling, she sounded so much like "Christine" it was frightening and had I not watched it with my own eyes, I never would've believed it was a 6 cylinder engine. Always a pleasure to watch your content, Dylan.
I have watched every video about this 58 plymouth. the reason why I like your "will it run?" videos more than other guys who do this, is because you care about the appearance of the mechanics areas you work on. like painting everything before putting it back together. I do the same thing. when the hood of my 67 ranchero is opened you better be wearing sun glasses! haha.
It only takes about a spoon full of gas to prime the engine. Any more and you flood it. The low compression may because the excess gas washed the cylinders. Oil the cylinders and see if the compression improves.
You would never get an old engine like that to fire on a spoonful of gas. Been wrenching on engines 50 years. Have a 58 cadillac, and 68 Mustang. A tablespoon of gas to them is nothing.
Dripple the gas while you turn the engine over or the gas just drops to the bottom . ya did it wrong . And ya washed the bores clean , they need residual oil . Try it again proper .
Glad to hear you're a fellow Christine fan! I love how this car gave you some love by firing right up and idiling then deciding to be tempermental....eerily like Christine would. haha Thanks for sharing and god bless!
@@chloedevereaux1801 Partially right... If you read into the history on Christine you'll learn 14+ Plymouths were used including both 1957-59 Savoy and Fury's. But in the movie Christine is supposed to be a 1958 Plymouth Fury. A simple google of ''What is the car in Christine'' gives you multiple answers. Now I want to watch it again...
Mid-late 50s Plymouth are so gorgeous, even in an abandoned state/ dilapidated state. You can tell that back in those days that "The Designer is King"!
Not gonna lie you're slowly becoming one of my favorite TH-camrs. Love the content I'm slowly watching all the different series you have. You make me wanna try n fix up an old car instead of a truck
Had a 48’ dodge deluxe with this exact engine do this, pulled the head and it had a couple sticky valves. Some pb blaster and a rubber hammer I got them free. Ran great after!
That Is the way to go before giving up on the 6! They would run 65-75+ on the highway! Most of the 6s', especially the 3spd manual ones, had a 3:77 rear gear set. I changed mine out with a rear end out of a '65 Chrysler, which gave me a Really good Emergency Brake as well as 3:23s !!!
@@bensonsspeedshop1191 mine had a 3spd fluid drive, was such a cool experience driving it. Ultimately I sold it to a good friend of mine to pursue other projects. But dang do I miss it! And yes, it would cruise 70 with no issue at all!
This one is going to be a good one to fix up and there were a some cool cars around it in the building. With those headlights you have Christin's cousin. I am looking forward to see more.
Check with Josh at Sleeperdude. He had the same issue with a low compression engine. Hooked up dual inline 12v batteries and got the engine cranking super fast and the engine started. He let it run for quite awhile and now it starts every time. Apparently needed to get the rings loosened up.
I am speechless: I always thought that a car starting that easily after many years of neglect was a Chevy thing. I saw now, that a mopar can also come back to life very easily. I think it is more likely to happen with a simple straight six.
Chevy's in my experience either start straight up quite easily or they are hell on earth. Had a '65 C10 283 that sat for 30 years, started up after new points, rotor plugs and was great. Then I had a '63 Impala SS 327 that sat for 25, did all the same stuff, it even had more compression, but the sucker is still fighting me after a month. I know they are near identical engines, but the 327's always give me a hard time for whatever reason.
@@josephg41 I own a 63 Belair and a 63 Impala both with a straight six. Once I started the Belair after more than six years in storage. The only thing I did: Put a battery and checked the oil. It just started up and ran fine.
@@beatglauser9444 Yeah I've had better luck with the 6 cylinder Chevy's. I have had several vehicles with the 235 six and others with the later 230, 250, 292 series. Good motors, hard to kill especially the 235
I got genuinely excited to see this car. I read Christine as a teenager. I'd love to see a movie car build but I know realistically it deserves to be restored.
Love that 58! Wanted one since I was a kid and mised getting my parents in ' 68. By then itwas so badly rusted the seat was going through the floorboards. It went to the junkyard and I got their '59 Ambassador instead 3 years later. Still have the Rambler but always wanted a 58 plymouth. Good luck withyours!
I’d throw in a new starter right off the bat. That old one sounds pretty tired. I’d love to see this one kept original as possible aside from some bodywork and paint. If the engine is salvageable? A potential rebuild, cleaning and a good rattle can job at the least. Bringing that body back and maybe a respray of it’s original color would be amazing
I've owned only 2 Mopars, a '67 Dodge stepside p/u with a 225 s6 and a '91 Dodge Ram long wheel base king cab with a 318 . They're like most Mopars, starter sounds like it's at the end of it's life! You know it's a Mopar the instant the key turns to start!
I'd love to see more of this car. Personally, I'd really like to see it run on the original engine (or at least that engine your buddy left for you). So many people just swap a 350 or LS into these old cars. I know they perform better, but it's neat seeing the original stuff. I went to a vintage car show a couple months ago and only saw 2 GM straight six in the whole show.
The Savoy is my favourite model for 57 and 58, I can’t wait to see future videos with the beast. Please keep her stock, those L-heads are tough to kill and they sound so cool when you get em running. Cheers from Ontario
Definitely need more on this car. Let it sit with marvel mystery in the cylinders. Either way it would probably need a redbuild. I'd either do stock or make it another challenger series. Very cool car. Can't wait for more content
Yeah she just screams 50s, love that front end it’s just so unique. It seems like the little 6 cylinders are usually the ones that will fire up after years of sitting and just refuse to die. The old 300 fords were the same way, gutless but you couldn’t hardly kill them
Definitely want to see more of the 58 Plymouth. In my limited knowledge, I agree with the people who say the rings need to be refreshed. The drop in compression makes me think the rings were a little sticky and when you turned it over by hand, you broke them loose. But after it shut down, the rings got stuck again.
Wow these old old cars are growing on me so much I love them this is probably already one of my favorite rescues on your channel , juuust try to not leave it unattended once it’s fully mobile again … who knows what it’s up to … 😄😈
I have a 56 Packard with a push button transmission. Hope you have good luck with it like I have had with mine. Lubing the gear selector I’ve learned is key to working on these.
Now we're talking! Finally a '58 Plymouth, the only classic american car I know quite well. Looking forward to watch that beauty come back to life. By the way: That's a 2dr Sedan, not a hardtop. It has a 2-speed powerflite automatic transmission, there was a 3-speed automatic available as well, called torqueflite + the basic 3-speed manual transmission. With that golden "V" in the grille she usually should be a 318cui V8 (or the V has been added at some point). Watch out, at some point she might even try to kill or hurt you...and I know what I'm talking about. Looks like she's a factory radio delete so at least you won't be surprised by a radio that will suddenly turn on and play music from the 50s. 😂 PS: Check out some of my older videos to see one of these. 😊
Maybe that's why the radio was deleted. I'd be sure there are no speakers of any kind. He also is doing the restoration wrong. All he has to do is step back and say "Show me" 😬
@@tammylott921 actually she was a mix of a Belvedere and a fury. They used both in different situations. And I believe that the coupe never came in red. So, technically, “Christine”, as a certain model, didn’t even exist. We can imagine this as Christine all we want. You aren’t the imagination police, lol.
@@tammylott921 Stephen King often used cars that didn’t actually exist in his stories. If I remember right, there was also, “From a Buick 8”. The way he describes that car as the specific year and model, it didn’t exist at the time.
I want to see more of it! Try some thick oil down the cylinders to help bump the compression up and try again. If it starts let it run and blow the cob webs away. It should help and free up the rings after a while. And keep it original! Love this car!
Definitely want to see more of the Savoy. Really hope that original 6 cylinder can be spruced up and stay in there. Clean her up and try to keep her as original as possible.
Oh man, that growling starter brought back memories when I first started up my 58 Plymouth. I had this very similar situation, ran great and let it sit for months. No start. These don’t like sitting for long periods of time. Marvel mystery oil down the holes, clean and relube the starter (helps get more rpm’s out of it) and dribble in 2 cycle mixed fuel down the carb for starting, any mix is fine. Straight gas will just wash out your cylinders. Once it does run, try to get some heat cycles into it to help loosen/seal up the rings. Also might want to look into replacing that carb with the correct unit. The one currently in your car is off an early 1950’s Plymouth. It’ll work, but it’s not correct for the later model 230 flatty. Love the car as much as mine. Hope to see more of yours! Parts wise, Big M and Dave are the way to go! As well as the 1958 Plymouth FINatics group.
Hey @DylanMcCool,I've been watching you since I was 16 or 17 years old,and I'm 21 now. I love your videos. I don't know really anything about vehicles,but your stuff makes me feel like I do. And I pick up a thing or two from them. Keep up the great work man
Last year me and my dad pulled a 1957 Chevy 210 out of the bush that had been sitting since about 1980 and it fired right up and idle after filing the points.
when you flooded it what little remaining oil in the cylinders/ valves got washed away put a small amount of oil in each cylinder to bump compression then hit it with a snort of starting fluid followed by a squirter of gas down the carb to keep it running
Yep, and pull it into the garage and let it dry out some. I’d like to see it get washed and waxed. And then since the lights work put a tire or two and brakes and at least drive to the ice cream stand with your buddy’s Plymouth. It’s a hot summer.
its a christine for sure! love the car, and cant wait to see it run again! just be sure to never leave your hand on the core support when the hood is up and look away! lol,,,,,
@@DylanMcCoolVideo bout damn time....C bodies rule!!!! If you want a course or methods of fixing it.... check coldwar motors! He's just finishing his 60 fury and he has .... 59 fury 57 new Yorker 53 Meadowbrook limo And a 73 Newport
Pop the head off. Pretty easy to do. Or pull the side cover. I think you might have some sticky valves that are slow to return. Funny it ran fine the day before however. I did the same thing on a 1957 Plymouth wagon in one of my videos. Ended up breaking a valve off and having to redo all the valves in the second video. Great cars! Good luck!
@@MortskeRepair seriously man. I have learned so much from your channel. And I have been wrenching for over 30 yrs. Keep up the good work. BTW 2hrs is a bit much for a revival.
I agree with everyone else, add a little oil, Marvel, something to help seal the rings to get it started and then let it get up to temp. Get a few heat cycles into the motor and put her around the yard to get those rings moving again. I would like to see more on her and start getting those parts on the car like a brake booster and a new window.
Needs a Golden Commando 350 installed if you can find one for it, even though it's a Sedan and not a Hardtop it's for sure a car worthy of restoration.
This bring back memories. I had a friend back in the late 60's who had a 1959 dodge that looked a lot like this car given to him. The car was perfect it was just like new and he took it out in the field and totally destroyed it. Pretty sad.
Very cool Plymouth. Looks like its got the powerflite trans. Our neighbor had a brand new 58 Fury. Had the 318 with two 4 barrel carbs. Rode in it a few times and it had awesome power for the day.
It’s amazing this the first thing I thought of is Christine. I think it would be brilliant if you can get the original running again. It showed so much promise initially.
Yes, do that. That engine wouldn’t have fired and run as well as it did if it had 40psi compression. I think it has been washed out with fuel. Or, maybe a combination of that, and the ignition timing being out.
I would recommend checking your points again and make sure they aren't fried. When you tried to shut down the engine and it kept running. That tells me that even when the car is not running and the ignition is in the off position, the ignition system "thinks" the key is in the on position and is constantly getting power up to the points (anytime the battery is connected). If this is true, then your brand new points are shot and you'll have no spark. Worth looking into! Good luck
I'd love to see more. I'm betting a bit of trans fluid in the cylinders to up the compression and a new starter and she'd fire again. I'd also love to see some content on that caddy parked next to it!
Absolutely love this car! I'd love to see it run on it's original engine but a swap is also interesting. I've always wondered though with these videos where cars have been sitting for 15 years or more, shouldn't you prep the cylinders? Change the oil? The engine would be bone dry wouldn't it? Change the fuel? Flush the fuel lines etc? I would never think of starting a car that's not been turned over for 15+ years off the bat.
Get it running again, leave the body as it is. If I had to guess, I'd say the low compression is probably the valves- either stuck or carboned up so they don't seal shut. Either way, a healthy 360/727 would be a welcome improvement.
Nice find! Just to fill you in on a few things, it’s not a hardtop, it’s a 2 door sedan. The hardtop roof is shorter and lower. This shares the same roof skin with a 4dr sedan. The pushbutton trans is a standard feature on every Chrysler product from 1956-64 unless it’s a manual car, or starting in the 60s, had a console shifter. Looking forward to the progress! Someone added the V to the grill which signifies a V8. Also added Belvedere roof trim
I find these videos very interesting. The styling on the Plymouth Fury is bold, yet elegant. Maybe you should paint it candy apple red and just say “show me”. It could come in handy too if you have some troublesome neighbors!
Fine barn find. Seems to have great potential. Great line and length.... memories and this model I had 2 in New Zealand, 4 doors though. RHD. Side valve and one day, station wagon Plymouth, same year, heading up country, filled her with diesel, still started no problem, smoky, kept going....ran it out. No shortage of Savoy's in New Zealand, for a while.
My father brought an orange 1959 Plymouth Savoy to New Zealand aboard the P&O liner Canberra in 1960. He switched it over from left hand drive to right hand drive. I was very young but I’m sure it was an in-line six with a manual in the tree shifter. We lived in Petone and my father sold the car before we returned to Canada. Often wondered what happened to the car?!
@@Ed_Cairns Fabulous Ed. Petone was Todd Motors on the foreshore, and Chrysler products were assembled by Todd Motors. Was your fathers green, two tone green was popular for sure. 3 on the tree also, or auto on the dash, a lever, no park, 2 stage autos if memory serves me right. Todd Motors would have had the RHD dash obviously, so your Dad possibly purchased from Todd Motors. Misread-Orange your fathers, and I never recall seeing one in that color. That side valve engine went on to become a widely used industry engine in all sorts of factory vehicles-airport, Wellington, baggage carriers well into 70's.....many converted to LPG or CNG as well. Low compression long stroke....
Simon, I’m not sure where my father purchased the items for the right hand conversion - but you may well be correct. I remember the car had two columns for a while - he drove the car while in the process of converting it! The paint was a monotone orange colour! Big back fins. Rear view mirror mounted on the dash….
Another great video, Dylan. You can't just give up. You've got to persevere with this old car. I don't know why you guys in the States never seem to want to use jump leads? If you pulled your truck alongside and jumped the battery from your truck battery (while it's running) it will spin plenty fast and give you lots of ignition sparkles and (at least some) compression.
The top engine for these cars was a 392 Gen 1 HEMI, so running a Gen 3 392 Apache would be awesome. Also, the push button was an option a lot of the MOPARs, so seeing one survive 64 years is pretty impressive. I hope you do keep going, even if you end up dropping a LA 318 into it just to get it going under it's own power.
Actually, the top engine for a Plymouth was the 350 with a 2 4bbl intake and 3spd Torque Flite. '59 was the 383, then they went up from there in the 60s.
Sounds like you know a bit about these cars. Perhaps you'll enjoy following along as I get mine back on the road. th-cam.com/play/PLMaLPwPr28mlkzzgNSuLCdVyCnJmZ2Pf2.html
@@bensonsspeedshop1191 Still, the idea of putting a Gen III into that body style would be interesting. Graveyard Cars ran a Hellcat in their Christine clone.
I usually prefer early 50's over late 50's sedans, but that is a beautiful car. Consider me jealous! The way all those electrics worked properly, the way it idled after just a little bit of electrical work. I think she likes you!
When you were loading the car , once the front wheels were on the ramps , all you had to do is pull forward and the back wheels will line up with the trailer , works every time , nice project.
Love the 58 Plymouth, my thoughts are flat heads are very tricky after they’ve sat, it’s a low compression motor to start with, my thoughts are find a solid 360 or maybe even a big block 383, the issue is I have no idea what cross member it has and Mopars can be tricky, but maybe if you want to have something find a fifty’s era hemi
What a sweet find this is! If the engine has to come out, I'd love to see it swapped over to a 1958 or later Dodge/Chrysler/ Plymouth OHV V-8 while keeping it period-correct. Also, I had no idea that Chrysler was still using flathead I-6 engines as late as 1958.
Fix it. Dump some mystery oil in the cylinders to loosen up the rings and valves . Chances are on that first run the cylinders were dry and the rings tightened up in the pistons and valves sticking a bit so compression is low. Also get the starter rebuilt. It sounds like it's dragging and not spinning fast enough. It also could have sucked some dirt into it while it was running and sticking the valve seats so valves aren't closing good . Use some penetrating oil in the spark plug holes on the valves. Hope this helps .
The availability of classic old cars like this would be about the only reason I would want to move to the US. I would love to be able to find and restore old classics like this and the other cars you and Junkyard Digs and the rest of you find and get running, and in your case, restore. I hope that you can get it running :D
It ran, it sounded reasonable so I see no reason why with a good strong battery, some decent fuel and a quick clean through the carb she shouldn't fire up again. Don't upset it though - her sister had a nasty temper when upset :P
That starter sounds too slow. It needs to be rebuilt or replaced. EDIT: I am also sure once you let it run for a while and heat up to the point the radiator is in use, the compression should go back to normal instead of being that low
I reckon I’d check to see if the exhaust got plugged with mouse nests…an engine is an air pump after all…timing sounds way advanced too….Those old body on frame Plymouths are really cool!!! Maybe a modest small block Chrysler swap
Keep it going. Bang an 50s era hemi in it bring it back to life. I know paint is not your thing but the blue and white even quickly done would sure lift that beauty.
Definitely want to see more. Keep it stock, running and driving. She's too rare of a car to hot rod. But absolutely get her back on the road
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I'm not particularly an expert on Plymouth but most of those old engines that set for a long time lose compression like that, if you put a couple of teaspoons of gear oil in each piston it should give you enough compression to start it up, once you do that and run it through a few heat cycles you should get your rings back and have compression again.
very true :o)
Well he knows all about that .. pretty sure everyone watching these videos know too .. cleary you haven’t been watching these long..
@@matthewwilson7951 gatekeepers do not help the hobby bro
@@mraycgz just being honest bro 😎
I love the car, definitely do more vidéos on it, it deserves to run and drive again, big finned cars got the style to stand out in the crowd, it commands attention.
that car deserves a complete restoration, it clearly wants to keep going, it just needs some love
It’ll cost a fortune
@@WONtothaG Not when you have skillz like mr mccool. It will cost a fortune in time, though.
@@WONtothaG , so? At least he will not be an envirotard that ironically ruins the environment more than the people that drive classic vehicles like this one.
I'm for keeping patina on cars if there's enough restored already. Yeah, they're pretty looking like they're new, but some of them I feel get their life erased when restored.
Fix the rot, interior and everything else, but I say leave the patina.
@@GetDougDimmadomed that’s true, patina tells the history of car :).
You just found a content gold mine. We all love Christine.
Dang, the 58 Plymouth Savoy/Belvedere/Fury is my dream car. I also fell in love after reading Christine. Excellent find! Would love to see you bring this one back to life! It will be well worth it when all is said and done.
and Plaza ;) shes the oldest ;)
@@scootyroddom1391 ew no shes worst then the savoy if im gonna get a 58 plymouth it has to be a belvedere or a fury
Love 58 Plymouths. Can't wait to follow this car and what you're plans are.
Rip it down to the frame restore each part, media blast the frame and weld where needed . Order new front end and up date rear from summit and re assemble the glass can be made or maybe a swap find . Remake and retro mod the interior incl under dash AC. Yes that is about 20k invest but a show car when done.
Perhaps you might enjoy following the work I do on mine getting it back on the road.
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@@davecharles5212 or clean the existing paint and clear coat it to keep the patina, swap in a modern drive train from a 5,7 hemi car. That would be awesome too.
@@mraycgz if you put a hemi in why would you not do body work and paint ? I guess nobody knows how too paint cars anymore ? I hate the patina ! Call it what it is if your going too do that ( rust bucket)
would rec: add some marvel into the top of each cylinder and sit for a few days. a new starter may be needed because being a 12v car it should crank much faster, I would like to see the flathead 6 stay in the car. could also use a leak down tester to try to see if rings or valves or head gasket . keep going and best regards
Proof that 12 volts does not result in better cranking, only cost savings in copper.
Marvel mystery oil will help. Will soften up the crap out/in the ring grooves.
@@arthurroosa9197 It started the first time, so it did have some compression. The second time, it sounded at times as if it was firing too soon, trying to drive the engine backwards. That tells me the cam timing jumped - if the cam timing jumps, ignition timing will also be off, as the distributor is driven by the oil pump, which is driven by the camshaft.
When she fired up and was idling, she sounded so much like "Christine" it was frightening and had I not watched it with my own eyes, I never would've believed it was a 6 cylinder engine. Always a pleasure to watch your content, Dylan.
i would love to see the 58 restored to its former glory, i think it deserves it, one of the best looking cars of its time ever made in my opinion.
I have watched every video about this 58 plymouth. the reason why I like your "will it run?" videos more than other guys who do this, is because you care about the appearance of the mechanics areas you work on. like painting everything before putting it back together. I do the same thing. when the hood of my 67 ranchero is opened you better be wearing sun glasses! haha.
It only takes about a spoon full of gas to prime the engine. Any more and you flood it. The low compression may because the excess gas washed the cylinders. Oil the cylinders and see if the compression improves.
Yes me watching him poor that much fuel down the carburetor triggered me lol
Maybe do like a few other restorers do and use 2-cycle mix so you get some upper cylinder lube.
@@greendryerlint full of them dinosaurs and minerals these old blocks like!
You would never get an old engine like that to fire on a spoonful of gas. Been wrenching on engines 50 years. Have a 58 cadillac, and 68 Mustang. A tablespoon of gas to them is nothing.
Dripple the gas while you turn the engine over or the gas just drops to the bottom . ya did it wrong . And ya washed the bores clean , they need residual oil . Try it again proper .
Glad to hear you're a fellow Christine fan! I love how this car gave you some love by firing right up and idiling then deciding to be tempermental....eerily like
Christine would. haha Thanks for sharing and god bless!
christine was a plymouth fury not savoy...
@@chloedevereaux1801 Partially right... If you read into the history on Christine you'll learn 14+ Plymouths were used including both 1957-59 Savoy and Fury's. But in the movie Christine is supposed to be a 1958 Plymouth Fury. A simple google of ''What is the car in Christine'' gives you multiple answers. Now I want to watch it again...
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I would love to see this one all original. Even if I had to rebuild the engine, I would give it a shot. LOVE THIS CAR!!!
Mid-late 50s Plymouth are so gorgeous, even in an abandoned state/ dilapidated state. You can tell that back in those days that "The Designer is King"!
Not gonna lie you're slowly becoming one of my favorite TH-camrs. Love the content I'm slowly watching all the different series you have. You make me wanna try n fix up an old car instead of a truck
Had a 48’ dodge deluxe with this exact engine do this, pulled the head and it had a couple sticky valves. Some pb blaster and a rubber hammer I got them free. Ran great after!
I agree. Before deciding to quit on this engine....pull the head, see if the valves are closing properly or maybe hanging up.
That Is the way to go before giving up on the 6!
They would run 65-75+ on the highway! Most of the 6s', especially the 3spd manual ones, had a 3:77 rear gear set.
I changed mine out with a rear end out of a '65 Chrysler, which gave me a Really good Emergency Brake as well as 3:23s !!!
@@bensonsspeedshop1191 mine had a 3spd fluid drive, was such a cool experience driving it. Ultimately I sold it to a good friend of mine to pursue other projects. But dang do I miss it! And yes, it would cruise 70 with no issue at all!
This one is going to be a good one to fix up and there were a some cool cars around it in the building. With those headlights you have Christin's cousin. I am looking forward to see more.
The next time Dylan went to work on the Plymouth, he remembered thinking to himself “hmm, when did I replace that window?” 😂
If he wears a back brace while working on it I'm just going to freak out completely..
Blue is a more friendly color, maybe it won’t be evil? Hey, if he’s nice to it it’ll restore itself! 😂
Don’t worry it won’t turn evil, it’s not a Belvedere.
@@jack_YT101andmore bumping a 2 year old comment, cool story bro… 🤦♂️
I’d love to see more of this Plymouth. It’s so strange that it’s lost compression!
The cool part about these is if you show em enough love, they will fix themselves.
Check with Josh at Sleeperdude. He had the same issue with a low compression engine. Hooked up dual inline 12v batteries and got the engine cranking super fast and the engine started. He let it run for quite awhile and now it starts every time. Apparently needed to get the rings loosened up.
Sleeperdude is a great show.
Agreed, josh and family, Rocky included, are a hoot!
Hell yeah, another Plymouth. I need more Plymouth's in my life.
I am restoring a very, very rare Plymouth. Can you guess? Yep, it's a Cricket!
That's a sweet '62 Fairlane sitting next to it, too. I had a '63 and I miss it a lot.
I have a 63 fairlane, 2 door hardtop. It's got issues but I love it.
I am speechless: I always thought that a car starting that easily after many years of neglect was a Chevy thing. I saw now, that a mopar can also come back to life very easily. I think it is more likely to happen with a simple straight six.
Chevy's in my experience either start straight up quite easily or they are hell on earth. Had a '65 C10 283 that sat for 30 years, started up after new points, rotor plugs and was great. Then I had a '63 Impala SS 327 that sat for 25, did all the same stuff, it even had more compression, but the sucker is still fighting me after a month. I know they are near identical engines, but the 327's always give me a hard time for whatever reason.
@@josephg41 I own a 63 Belair and a 63 Impala both with a straight six. Once I started the Belair after more than six years in storage. The only thing I did: Put a battery and checked the oil. It just started up and ran fine.
@@beatglauser9444 Yeah I've had better luck with the 6 cylinder Chevy's. I have had several vehicles with the 235 six and others with the later 230, 250, 292 series. Good motors, hard to kill especially the 235
This car is a true classic please get it completely restored and running it wants to be back on the roads again
Thank you for posting and
God bless🙏🙏
Or as a derelict!
I got genuinely excited to see this car. I read Christine as a teenager. I'd love to see a movie car build but I know realistically it deserves to be restored.
Christine was a Fury not a Savoy but they look very similar.
@@ladamurni yes and the belvedere. Dodge got thier use out of body panels.
Love that 58! Wanted one since I was a kid and mised getting my parents in ' 68. By then itwas so badly rusted the seat was going through the floorboards. It went to the junkyard and I got their '59 Ambassador instead 3 years later. Still have the Rambler but always wanted a 58 plymouth. Good luck withyours!
I’d throw in a new starter right off the bat. That old one sounds pretty tired. I’d love to see this one kept original as possible aside from some bodywork and paint. If the engine is salvageable? A potential rebuild, cleaning and a good rattle can job at the least.
Bringing that body back and maybe a respray of it’s original color would be amazing
Starter sounds just like mine. 😉
@@dans_Learning_Curve like it’s trying to wake up after a 30 year nap 🤣👍🏼
Sounds like a normal old Mopar starter to me.
All old mopar starters sound like that. My 58 desoto with a 361 sounds the same.
I've owned only 2 Mopars, a '67 Dodge stepside p/u with a 225 s6 and a '91 Dodge Ram long wheel base king cab with a 318 . They're like most Mopars, starter sounds like it's at the end of it's life! You know it's a Mopar the instant the key turns to start!
In my modest opinion, one of the beautiful models of the 50's. It's deserve a detailed restoration process!
Love seeing your smile after you got her running! This is an amazing find! Congratulations!
I love those cars. Ever since I first seen the movie Christine I have always wanted one. Can’t wait to see what you do with it
Christine
was a 1958 plymouth Fury
It's very close to the Fury
My first car was a Plymouth Fury. Loved it
I'd love to see more of this car. Personally, I'd really like to see it run on the original engine (or at least that engine your buddy left for you). So many people just swap a 350 or LS into these old cars. I know they perform better, but it's neat seeing the original stuff. I went to a vintage car show a couple months ago and only saw 2 GM straight six in the whole show.
I agree. It’s more fun to have the original engine, it’s a flathead too so working on it will be easier than any other engine
Original is best
I name you Pauline! You got to keep 'er stock but whatever you do, don't give up. I have faith in you and that Plymouth.
The Savoy is my favourite model for 57 and 58, I can’t wait to see future videos with the beast. Please keep her stock, those L-heads are tough to kill and they sound so cool when you get em running.
Cheers from Ontario
Definitely need more on this car. Let it sit with marvel mystery in the cylinders. Either way it would probably need a redbuild. I'd either do stock or make it another challenger series. Very cool car. Can't wait for more content
absolutely surprised how good it sounds after sitting that long!!
Yeah she just screams 50s, love that front end it’s just so unique. It seems like the little 6 cylinders are usually the ones that will fire up after years of sitting and just refuse to die. The old 300 fords were the same way, gutless but you couldn’t hardly kill them
REAL SIMILAR TO THE 58 PLYMOUTH FURY ( CHRISTINE )
Definitely want to see more of the 58 Plymouth. In my limited knowledge, I agree with the people who say the rings need to be refreshed. The drop in compression makes me think the rings were a little sticky and when you turned it over by hand, you broke them loose. But after it shut down, the rings got stuck again.
Wow these old old cars are growing on me so much I love them this is probably already one of my favorite rescues on your channel , juuust try to not leave it unattended once it’s fully mobile again … who knows what it’s up to … 😄😈
I love watching your videos!! It's so neat to see what you can do with cars and fix them!! God bless you!
I have a 56 Packard with a push button transmission. Hope you have good luck with it like I have had with mine. Lubing the gear selector I’ve learned is key to working on these.
Our '49 Packard Deluxe 8 Coupe has the 3spd manual behind the 2500 mile 288!!!
Definitely yes on getting it back on the road. Sure would be cool to see it on Power Tour next year. It would draw some attention.
Would like to see this car running again keeping it all original, love your videos.
OH NO. I've seen where this goes. Run Dylan. Just run.
Now we're talking! Finally a '58 Plymouth, the only classic american car I know quite well. Looking forward to watch that beauty come back to life. By the way: That's a 2dr Sedan, not a hardtop. It has a 2-speed powerflite automatic transmission, there was a 3-speed automatic available as well, called torqueflite + the basic 3-speed manual transmission. With that golden "V" in the grille she usually should be a 318cui V8 (or the V has been added at some point). Watch out, at some point she might even try to kill or hurt you...and I know what I'm talking about. Looks like she's a factory radio delete so at least you won't be surprised by a radio that will suddenly turn on and play music from the 50s. 😂 PS: Check out some of my older videos to see one of these. 😊
Maybe that's why the radio was deleted. I'd be sure there are no speakers of any kind. He also is doing the restoration wrong. All he has to do is step back and say "Show me" 😬
Perhaps you'll enjoy following along as I get my 1958 Plymouth Suburban back on the road.
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CHRISTINE .....WAS A 58 PLYMOUTH FURY ...
@@tammylott921 actually she was a mix of a Belvedere and a fury. They used both in different situations. And I believe that the coupe never came in red. So, technically, “Christine”, as a certain model, didn’t even exist. We can imagine this as Christine all we want. You aren’t the imagination police, lol.
@@tammylott921 Stephen King often used cars that didn’t actually exist in his stories. If I remember right, there was also, “From a Buick 8”. The way he describes that car as the specific year and model, it didn’t exist at the time.
I want to see more of it!
Try some thick oil down the cylinders to help bump the compression up and try again. If it starts let it run and blow the cob webs away. It should help and free up the rings after a while.
And keep it original! Love this car!
Definitely want to see more of the Savoy. Really hope that original 6 cylinder can be spruced up and stay in there. Clean her up and try to keep her as original as possible.
Oh man, that growling starter brought back memories when I first started up my 58 Plymouth. I had this very similar situation, ran great and let it sit for months. No start. These don’t like sitting for long periods of time.
Marvel mystery oil down the holes, clean and relube the starter (helps get more rpm’s out of it) and dribble in 2 cycle mixed fuel down the carb for starting, any mix is fine. Straight gas will just wash out your cylinders.
Once it does run, try to get some heat cycles into it to help loosen/seal up the rings. Also might want to look into replacing that carb with the correct unit. The one currently in your car is off an early 1950’s Plymouth. It’ll work, but it’s not correct for the later model 230 flatty.
Love the car as much as mine. Hope to see more of yours! Parts wise, Big M and Dave are the way to go! As well as the 1958 Plymouth FINatics group.
Hey @DylanMcCool,I've been watching you since I was 16 or 17 years old,and I'm 21 now. I love your videos. I don't know really anything about vehicles,but your stuff makes me feel like I do. And I pick up a thing or two from them. Keep up the great work man
Last year me and my dad pulled a 1957 Chevy 210 out of the bush that had been sitting since about 1980 and it fired right up and idle after filing the points.
when you flooded it what little remaining oil in the cylinders/ valves got washed away put a small amount of oil in each cylinder to bump compression then hit it with a snort of starting fluid followed by a squirter of gas down the carb to keep it running
I’d love to see you do further as to what took the compression down. She’s a beautiful car
Yep, and pull it into the garage and let it dry out some.
I’d like to see it get washed and waxed. And then since the lights work put a tire or two and brakes and at least drive to the ice cream stand with your buddy’s Plymouth.
It’s a hot summer.
Aside from not being red it totally gives off that Christine vibe at first all the lights work after sitting so long it's a cool car
Oh Lord, yes please, don't give up! Thanks for sharing your journey!
Would also love to see way more videos on this thing!
its a christine for sure! love the car, and cant wait to see it run again! just be sure to never leave your hand on the core support when the hood is up and look away! lol,,,,,
Love car names good sir,may I ask why Christine?
@@sultankuto8724 he’s referring to the movie Christine
@@hondanation9375 thanks for the insight
"Christine" was a Plymouth Fury (actually Belevdere) 2-door hardtop. The car in this video is a Savoy 2-door sedan.
Awesome it's good to see you again dylan McCool the best part of this video is it's my birthday today!
Happy birthday!
@@DylanMcCoolVideo thank you I'm 20 year old now
@@DylanMcCoolVideo bout damn time....C bodies rule!!!!
If you want a course or methods of fixing it.... check coldwar motors!
He's just finishing his 60 fury and he has ....
59 fury
57 new Yorker
53 Meadowbrook limo
And a 73 Newport
Pop the head off. Pretty easy to do. Or pull the side cover. I think you might have some sticky valves that are slow to return. Funny it ran fine the day before however. I did the same thing on a 1957 Plymouth wagon in one of my videos. Ended up breaking a valve off and having to redo all the valves in the second video. Great cars! Good luck!
You know about old cars!!!
@@danesderelicts I know nothing!
@@MortskeRepair seriously man. I have learned so much from your channel. And I have been wrenching for over 30 yrs. Keep up the good work. BTW 2hrs is a bit much for a revival.
@@danesderelicts Glad to hear it. I guess I'm not a fan of dragging a revival out for 5 episodes so we knock it out in one long one.
@@MortskeRepair couple of episodes would be cool. Plus easier to edit. Maybe??
I agree with everyone else, add a little oil, Marvel, something to help seal the rings to get it started and then let it get up to temp. Get a few heat cycles into the motor and put her around the yard to get those rings moving again. I would like to see more on her and start getting those parts on the car like a brake booster and a new window.
Needs a Golden Commando 350 installed if you can find one for it, even though it's a Sedan and not a Hardtop it's for sure a car worthy of restoration.
I was gonna mention it's a sedan, ya beat me to it.
Dylan I thank u have a vale stuck take the head off.or u might have a fuel pump went out
Please keep working on the 58 Plymouth, it deserves to be driven again. Great content as usual!🇨🇦👍
Just get it running and driving love these cars great video
awesome car Dylan, it's is so enjoyable to live vicariously through your projects and you getting a cool car collection.
Paint it red & white & name it Christine. Looks close enough to a Fury.
This bring back memories. I had a friend back in the late 60's who had a 1959 dodge that looked a lot like this car given to him. The car was perfect it was just like new and he took it out in the field and totally destroyed it. Pretty sad.
Hmm, very wasteful, thanks for interesting post.
Very cool Plymouth. Looks like its got the powerflite trans. Our neighbor had a brand new 58 Fury. Had the 318 with two 4 barrel carbs. Rode in it a few times and it had awesome power for the day.
Was the neighbors name Roland Lebay by any chance?
This is my dream car, I’ve wanted one of these since I was a little kid and I can’t tell you how jealous I am lol
Try adding a little oil to each cylinder to get more compression to make it fire up. Maybe some heat in it will bring the rings back around.
Words can't explain how much I want one of these
So glad you're putting it back on the road. It pleases me a lot. Good luck with it. I'd like to get a 1930 something Mopar to get running again.
It’s amazing this the first thing I thought of is Christine. I think it would be brilliant if you can get the original running again. It showed so much promise initially.
Might be able to dump a bit of oil into each cylinder to bump the compression up enough to run a little bit.
Yes, do that. That engine wouldn’t have fired and run as well as it did if it had 40psi compression. I think it has been washed out with fuel. Or, maybe a combination of that, and the ignition timing being out.
glad you finally posted, ive been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty :)
I would recommend checking your points again and make sure they aren't fried. When you tried to shut down the engine and it kept running. That tells me that even when the car is not running and the ignition is in the off position, the ignition system "thinks" the key is in the on position and is constantly getting power up to the points (anytime the battery is connected). If this is true, then your brand new points are shot and you'll have no spark. Worth looking into! Good luck
Bring it back to Glory my brother, it survived this long, it needs to be reborn my friend !!
I'd love to see more. I'm betting a bit of trans fluid in the cylinders to up the compression and a new starter and she'd fire again. I'd also love to see some content on that caddy parked next to it!
Absolutely love this car! I'd love to see it run on it's original engine but a swap is also interesting. I've always wondered though with these videos where cars have been sitting for 15 years or more, shouldn't you prep the cylinders? Change the oil? The engine would be bone dry wouldn't it? Change the fuel? Flush the fuel lines etc? I would never think of starting a car that's not been turned over for 15+ years off the bat.
Get it running again, leave the body as it is. If I had to guess, I'd say the low compression is probably the valves- either stuck or carboned up so they don't seal shut. Either way, a healthy 360/727 would be a welcome improvement.
Nice find! Just to fill you in on a few things, it’s not a hardtop, it’s a 2 door sedan. The hardtop roof is shorter and lower. This shares the same roof skin with a 4dr sedan. The pushbutton trans is a standard feature on every Chrysler product from 1956-64 unless it’s a manual car, or starting in the 60s, had a console shifter. Looking forward to the progress! Someone added the V to the grill which signifies a V8. Also added Belvedere roof trim
I find these videos very interesting. The styling on the Plymouth Fury is bold, yet elegant. Maybe you should paint it candy apple red and just say “show me”. It could come in handy too if you have some troublesome neighbors!
They must have built a bazillion of those Chrysler flathead 6 engines. Weird that most of them seemed to have disappeared.
Darnell's Tonight! 🤘
Fine barn find. Seems to have great potential. Great line and length.... memories and this model I had 2 in New Zealand, 4 doors though. RHD. Side valve and one day, station wagon Plymouth, same year, heading up country, filled her with diesel, still started no problem, smoky, kept going....ran it out. No shortage of Savoy's in New Zealand, for a while.
My father brought an orange 1959 Plymouth Savoy to New Zealand aboard the P&O liner Canberra in 1960.
He switched it over from left hand drive to right hand drive. I was very young but I’m sure it was an in-line six with a manual in the tree shifter.
We lived in Petone and my father sold the car before we returned to Canada.
Often wondered what happened to the car?!
@@Ed_Cairns Fabulous Ed. Petone was Todd Motors on the foreshore, and Chrysler products were assembled by Todd Motors. Was your fathers green, two tone green was popular for sure. 3 on the tree also, or auto on the dash, a lever, no park, 2 stage autos if memory serves me right. Todd Motors would have had the RHD dash obviously, so your Dad possibly purchased from Todd Motors. Misread-Orange your fathers, and I never recall seeing one in that color. That side valve engine went on to become a widely used industry engine in all sorts of factory vehicles-airport, Wellington, baggage carriers well into 70's.....many converted to LPG or CNG as well. Low compression long stroke....
Simon, I’m not sure where my father purchased the items for the right hand conversion - but you may well be correct. I remember the car had two columns for a while - he drove the car while in the process of converting it! The paint was a monotone orange colour! Big back fins. Rear view mirror mounted on the dash….
@@wildcolonialman
My father taught at what was then called the Petone Institute of Technology. He left Canada after the Avro Arrow cancellation!
Wow! The only thing better than a '70s barn find or a '60s barn find is a '50s barn find!
Love the forward look plymouths, this will be a sweet series.
Another great video, Dylan. You can't just give up. You've got to persevere with this old car.
I don't know why you guys in the States never seem to want to use jump leads?
If you pulled your truck alongside and jumped the battery from your truck battery (while it's running) it will spin plenty fast and give you lots of ignition sparkles and (at least some) compression.
I was wondering the same thing... they never just direct jump from a running vehicle. Maybe I'm too amateur to know the reason if there's a good one
Absolutely I would love to see more videos on this particular car. Put in a 383 paint it gold, dual fours and she'd look just like the old 350.
Or hell, just a 318 and a 727 with a nice intake and exhaust, just to get it rumbling down the road with a proper sound coming from a reliable engine.
The top engine for these cars was a 392 Gen 1 HEMI, so running a Gen 3 392 Apache would be awesome. Also, the push button was an option a lot of the MOPARs, so seeing one survive 64 years is pretty impressive. I hope you do keep going, even if you end up dropping a LA 318 into it just to get it going under it's own power.
Actually, the top engine for a Plymouth was the 350 with a 2 4bbl intake and 3spd Torque Flite.
'59 was the 383, then they went up from there in the 60s.
Sounds like you know a bit about these cars. Perhaps you'll enjoy following along as I get mine back on the road.
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@@bensonsspeedshop1191 Ah... the 392's were in Chryslers and Imperials...
There was a 361 that was also available from 1958.
@@bryanhallman8183 Plymouth never got the Hemi until the 2nd gen.
But, their Poly heads made really good power for the day.
@@bensonsspeedshop1191 Still, the idea of putting a Gen III into that body style would be interesting. Graveyard Cars ran a Hellcat in their Christine clone.
I usually prefer early 50's over late 50's sedans, but that is a beautiful car. Consider me jealous! The way all those electrics worked properly, the way it idled after just a little bit of electrical work. I think she likes you!
When you were loading the car , once the front wheels were on the ramps , all you had to do is pull forward and the back wheels will line up with the trailer , works every time , nice project.
Love the 58 Plymouth, my thoughts are flat heads are very tricky after they’ve sat, it’s a low compression motor to start with, my thoughts are find a solid 360 or maybe even a big block 383, the issue is I have no idea what cross member it has and Mopars can be tricky, but maybe if you want to have something find a fifty’s era hemi
Yank the engine and drop a bigger one. I am not familiar with these. So, I'm not sure what that might be, but you should save this one. Great car.
What a sweet find this is! If the engine has to come out, I'd love to see it swapped over to a 1958 or later Dodge/Chrysler/ Plymouth OHV V-8 while keeping it period-correct. Also, I had no idea that Chrysler was still using flathead I-6 engines as late as 1958.
Flathead was used one more year after this, Then they came out with the Slant 6 in 1960
Through 1960 in 2WD trucks, 65 for 4WD trucks.
Fix it. Dump some mystery oil in the cylinders to loosen up the rings and valves . Chances are on that first run the cylinders were dry and the rings tightened up in the pistons and valves sticking a bit so compression is low. Also get the starter rebuilt. It sounds like it's dragging and not spinning fast enough. It also could have sucked some dirt into it while it was running and sticking the valve seats so valves aren't closing good . Use some penetrating oil in the spark plug holes on the valves. Hope this helps .
The availability of classic old cars like this would be about the only reason I would want to move to the US. I would love to be able to find and restore old classics like this and the other cars you and Junkyard Digs and the rest of you find and get running, and in your case, restore. I hope that you can get it running :D
Love this car I love the 50s style with the fins id love to see this with a big block in it fully restored
It ran, it sounded reasonable so I see no reason why with a good strong battery, some decent fuel and a quick clean through the carb she shouldn't fire up again. Don't upset it though - her sister had a nasty temper when upset :P
As soon as I saw that all four headlights and both taillights lit up, I knew that she wanted to run,a certain '58 may have helped with that
And a fresh starter. That one sounds pretty tired
@@Lumpygrits76 Yeah, especially when he spun it over when it had compression
Christine!!! LOL
That starter sounds too slow. It needs to be rebuilt or replaced. EDIT: I am also sure once you let it run for a while and heat up to the point the radiator is in use, the compression should go back to normal instead of being that low
I reckon I’d check to see if the exhaust got plugged with mouse nests…an engine is an air pump after all…timing sounds way advanced too….Those old body on frame Plymouths are really cool!!! Maybe a modest small block Chrysler swap
Keep it going. Bang an 50s era hemi in it bring it back to life. I know paint is not your thing but the blue and white even quickly done would sure lift that beauty.