@@bag3lmonst3r72 th-cam.com/video/d_CGVUcvYQs/w-d-xo.html This is “Lisztian-Romantic”. These pieces are an irony of the form, with impressionist/modern colourings of harmony. Your comment is like saying, ‘This forward-thinking Beethoven Pathetique Sonata sounds soooo Beethoven-classical’, when in fact it is edging strongly into Romanticism. You’re entitled to have this opinion, but the facts are different.
Keep coming back to this video Andrei - as soon as Liszt finished the first Valzer, I’m sure he knew he was onto something amazing and magical, almost numinous!
Maintenant que je le connais un peu plus, je me rends compte que Liszt est à la racine de presque tous les courants de la musique moderne : inspirateur des inventions orchestrales et harmoniques de Wagner et de toute la tradition romantique qui en procède, inventeur du poème symphonique, de la forme cyclique, précurseur de l'impressionnisme au piano, des recherches modales de Bartok et de l'aventure atonale. C'est énorme pour un seul homme !
I was listening to this section sitting on grass in a sunny day thinking how it remembers me of the character of this Villa Lobos piece th-cam.com/video/WoRklWA_L1U/w-d-xo.html quite warm indeed
@@fredericchopin7538 Henle give it a difficulty rating of 7 out of 9. Liszt have many simpler pieces, check out the book Twenty-one Short Piano Pieces by ABRSM Signature.
Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the dissemination of Liszt's prodigious musical output! Endlessly fascinating stuff. Your notes are most helpful as well.
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Quelle interprétation ! Il aurait été fier ou heureux. Merci.
I think these are some of Liszt's finest miniatures. I think Stravinsky's opinion about the Grosse Fuge applies to this music as well, these waltzes too are "forever contemporary." The performance is lovely of course. However there are indications that Filipec overshot the tempo in a few places. For example in No.2 4:35 (and in later corresponding passages) you can't hear a distinction between the sixteenth and eight note motifs. In No.3 10:54 the repeated octaves in eighths become quarter notes. Maybe Filipec used a different edition where it is actually written as quarter notes, I don't know... but I have always heard those played with repeated eighth notes.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed, on the octaves part I'm sure it was personal choice but for No. 2 I wonder if it was at all intentional.
No. 2 has an unexpectedly very typical late 19th century (Belle Époque) salon-like feel to it. Charming, but it's a sound that I wouldn't expect from Liszt.
@@DottoreSMWhy so? To me the piece sounds more like the lines of what Reynaldo Hahn - or even what Moszkowski would've written. As a side note, I'd dare also say that the piece sounds borderline Fauréan, actually. Basically, it doesn't sound out of place from the period Liszt composed it. Something I find quite interesting. Compare the piece to his other outputs from the same period (or even periods before), or other composers who most often failed to adapt through evolving musical landscapes (e.g., Saint-Saëns, who for the most part stayed consistent even with changing times).
Ces valses ne sont pas que des pièces de salon d’ailleurs fort inaccessibles pour la plupart des pianistes mais de véritables pépite pianistique et préfigure le piano du XX s .
Hi, I wonder if I could get the sheets for the last piece Petite Valse S695e? Also I’ve subcribed to your channel for a time now and I just wanna say thank you for having introduced me to so many magnificent pieces (that are little known by most people)
For me it reminded a bit of Mephisto Waltz No. 3 (and maybe, just maybe, Maurice Ravel might've stolen that chordal 'quaver+minim' idea in the middle for his set of Valses Nobles Et Sentimentales)
Liszt's impressionistic period ! That must influenced Debussy and Ravel quite much ! 😄
It is like we are listening to a totally new composer!
I don't know man, the first waltz sounds pretty Lisztian-Romantic to me
@@bag3lmonst3r72 You are wrong. Deal with it.
@@TheModicaLiszt Go shove your condescending attitude where the sun doesn't shine, pal. I'm entitled to my opinion. Deal with it. 😎
@@bag3lmonst3r72 th-cam.com/video/d_CGVUcvYQs/w-d-xo.html This is “Lisztian-Romantic”. These pieces are an irony of the form, with impressionist/modern colourings of harmony. Your comment is like saying, ‘This forward-thinking Beethoven Pathetique Sonata sounds soooo Beethoven-classical’, when in fact it is edging strongly into Romanticism. You’re entitled to have this opinion, but the facts are different.
Liszt toujours surprenant, ces valses sont un plaisir à écouter jouées par l' excellent Goran Filipec
The harmonies are incredible as with all Liszt
Keep coming back to this video Andrei - as soon as Liszt finished the first Valzer, I’m sure he knew he was onto something amazing and magical, almost numinous!
Maintenant que je le connais un peu plus, je me rends compte que Liszt est à la racine de presque tous les courants de la musique moderne : inspirateur des inventions orchestrales et harmoniques de Wagner et de toute la tradition romantique qui en procède, inventeur du poème symphonique, de la forme cyclique, précurseur de l'impressionnisme au piano, des recherches modales de Bartok et de l'aventure atonale. C'est énorme pour un seul homme !
En effet
Exactement
Oh my gosh the fourth one (13:24) is truly divine. This is the first time i've heard it, and i am surprised that it looks easy on the score.
It reminds me very heavily of his 3rd Mephisto Waltz
This side of Liszt never fails to comfort me
11:18 Such a magical moment, like a fairy tail. Out of nowhere some beauty after all the tension. So gorgeous.
Honestly, these are the greatest waltzes ever written
15:43 So warm 7th/9th chords...
I was listening to this section sitting on grass in a sunny day thinking how it remembers me of the character of this Villa Lobos piece th-cam.com/video/WoRklWA_L1U/w-d-xo.html
quite warm indeed
Waltz no. 2 must be the most Impressionistic waltz out there. Ahead of its time, too.
wow, Liszt doesn’t just write nearly impossible music! I like this style. I like Liszt overall but this is awesome.
The first one is so popular because it’s one of the few Liszt pieces that’s actually playable for an average amateur pianist
It is also a sweet, short piece that does not challenge the listener as much as Liszt's other works.
@@fredericchopin7538 Henle give it a difficulty rating of 7 out of 9. Liszt have many simpler pieces, check out the book Twenty-one Short Piano Pieces
by ABRSM Signature.
It's definitely not an amateur piece. Obviously it isn't crazy advanced, but it's advanced enough.
普通にコンクールに採用しても良いレベルです
Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the dissemination of Liszt's prodigious musical output! Endlessly fascinating stuff. Your notes are most helpful as well.
Quelle interprétation ! Il aurait été fier ou heureux. Merci.
Thanks for including Dr Howard's performance at the end. I think I might learn these walzes next they are seldom performed in public.
At 1:50 I could swear I was listening to Scriabin!!
Sounds like his 4th sonata and it’s also in the same key too, so Scriabin most likely took inspiration from this!
I think these are some of Liszt's finest miniatures. I think Stravinsky's opinion about the Grosse Fuge applies to this music as well, these waltzes too are "forever contemporary."
The performance is lovely of course. However there are indications that Filipec overshot the tempo in a few places. For example in No.2 4:35 (and in later corresponding passages) you can't hear a distinction between the sixteenth and eight note motifs. In No.3 10:54 the repeated octaves in eighths become quarter notes. Maybe Filipec used a different edition where it is actually written as quarter notes, I don't know... but I have always heard those played with repeated eighth notes.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed, on the octaves part I'm sure it was personal choice but for No. 2 I wonder if it was at all intentional.
Life and Death, the spirit, the Ghost, that "something else" lays beyond our dreams...
2:09 the harmony starting at bar 184 is so captivating... Though after all, I think that it's nothing more than a damn dominant!
It's an E# chord with 7 and #11 (right hand plays the major third of E#) while the bass maintains the F# tonic pedal
very charming!
I like No.2🥰
The fourth one is so gorgeous
Grande interpretazione
No. 2 has an unexpectedly very typical late 19th century (Belle Époque) salon-like feel to it. Charming, but it's a sound that I wouldn't expect from Liszt.
doesn't sound like it to me at all.
@@DottoreSMWhy so? To me the piece sounds more like the lines of what Reynaldo Hahn - or even what Moszkowski would've written. As a side note, I'd dare also say that the piece sounds borderline Fauréan, actually.
Basically, it doesn't sound out of place from the period Liszt composed it. Something I find quite interesting.
Compare the piece to his other outputs from the same period (or even periods before), or other composers who most often failed to adapt through evolving musical landscapes (e.g., Saint-Saëns, who for the most part stayed consistent even with changing times).
Ces valses ne sont pas que des pièces de salon d’ailleurs fort inaccessibles pour la plupart des pianistes mais de véritables pépite pianistique et préfigure le piano du XX s .
does 1:50 remind anyone else of scriabins 4th sonata?
Yes.
@@ValzainLumivix Alas.
Espressione di un prodigio naturale.
1:50 precursor of scriabin
no 1 in a minor is my number 1 is my favourite indeed
1:00
Sounds so familiar... This must be it!
Scriabin didn't forget
what do you mean
@@Latinosmassacre- get it? Scriabin got inspired by this possible, which is an ironic departure from this piece's title
@@snorefest1621 Oh!
If you think that Petite Valse, is easy try it to play without listen first!
Hi, I wonder if I could get the sheets for the last piece Petite Valse S695e? Also I’ve subcribed to your channel for a time now and I just wanna say thank you for having introduced me to so many magnificent pieces (that are little known by most people)
Sure thing, drop me an email at the email address in my channel description.
@@AndreiAnghelLiszt Hello, thank you for this discovery ! Can I get also the sheet for the last one please ?
Bravo
Yo crei que escuchaba una cumbia colombiana....que mal....escuche a Claudio Arrau li vava guiar porvel camino correcto....
ok no.2 is pretty epic,... but nobody is gonna talk about the third one?
They are all pretty epic h
For me it reminded a bit of Mephisto Waltz No. 3 (and maybe, just maybe, Maurice Ravel might've stolen that chordal 'quaver+minim' idea in the middle for his set of Valses Nobles Et Sentimentales)
Popular opinion but I like the first the most.
14:03 that Is very satisfying
15:47 the pedals haha
7:18
Scott Joplin opening
no 5haunting never knew there was a 5
I would rename them presque oubliees
the unfinished fifth seems guite finished to me.
It was finished by Leslie Howard.
This piece is cantabile, the virtuosims give to trash some pieces
What
A desappointing Liszt.
elaborate?
@@segmentsAndCurves Les mêmes formules d'une valse à l'autre, où Liszt se caricature.
There simply isn’t a disappointing piece Liszt wrote in the 1860s-1880s if you ask me
non capisci niente
Are your ears stuck up your ass?
4:11
7:35
9:07