Again, great tips. Having been bent over a drawing board 9-5 and then freelancing on the weekends and later on standing painting I can relate! For a time, I was also a fitness trainer so I know how important it is to take care of one's body..the "temple of the soul"! Yoga is great as well as any PT stretching. Artists need to keep Arnica on hand which is for muscle strains and pulls and is great for lightening bruises. Also take epsom salt baths which is magnesium which is great for de-stressing and for pain! Also Cal-Mags with Zinc...Calcium/Magnesium supplements which doctors recommend for people who stand on their feet a lot...calcium for your bones and magnesium for one's muscles. The Zinc helps the body to absorb it all! Take care , you only have one body and take care of your eyes and hands as well. I went partially blind in one eye from too high blood pressure in my early 60s and also have a mild form of MS despite taking care of myself physically. Never take your health or body parts for granted!!
Even as a professional artist I could never do it full time 24/7! I had to do other things some just as important like being married for 42 years until death did us part and raising three daughters and having to partially raise my oldest granddaughter. I'm also a composer and composed a full length folk opera plus other pieces for piano. My art teacher in junior high always said to " get away from your work" to gain a better perspective. I took him at his word! I also asked him "how do you become famous?" He told me, "you have to make a name for yourself"! Haven't done that and don't think I want to go quite that route. Maybe it will happen after I'm dead and gone like Van Gogh! lol Thanks for sharing the downside of which unfortunately, there are quite a few! The upside is that by doing other things besides art, one becomes a more interesting person! "Variety is the spice of life" like they say!
I worked as a cashier and I developed shoulder problems, mostly in my left shoulder because I'm left handed. A doctor told me to take gelatin. You just buy bulk gelatin. You stir in a teaspoon of gelatin in a cup of coffee. It dissolves in hot drinks. It is pretty much tasteless but you coffee will turn to a jello like consistency if it gets cold. It contains ingredients that make up the cartilage in your joints and it really helps to rebuild and maintain that. If you do this three times per day for 90 days, it will really improve your shoulders and the rest of the joints in your body. It really improved my shoulders. I take it now once per day for maintenance. It also improved my knee joints. At one point, I could barely bend my one knee. Three months of this gelatin treatment and my knees completely recovered. My shoulder will still bother me from time to time when I over stress it, like painting for 10 hours in a day. I guess any part of your body might start complaining if you push it that hard so it's mostly tiredness at this point. I hope this works for you.
One of my tutors told me ages ago something that I never forgot; Turning your hobby into your job sounds ideal, but it has one huge disadvantage, you loose your hobby in the process. He meant, doing the thing you love for money ( and that is the kind of money you need to live on), instead of doing it for fun changes things. A lot. To the point that it is not really (as much) fun anymore.
That's true, I enjoyed creating work in the past but when it became a business I realised I just didn't enjoy it anymore and it became stressful. It sounds like a great idea, people say do what you love, but it doesn't always just work out like that.
I experienced this when I was younger and it was a shocking revelation. On one hand, I was lucky to do something I loved for a living, on the other, I lost my passion for it because it felt like “work”. I was a bit depressed about it because I thought I would be happier doing something I loved as a way to earn a living. In my case, it felt like I had lost something that had brought me joy. So my solution was to instead focus on making my living by doing the second thing I loved most. That way I could still have my main muse and not have it be “tainted”. So far, this has worked out and I’m much happier.
When you starting thinking your prior love is now work.....consider the alternative (whatever you did before focusing on art). I think you'll soon start loving it again.
Absolutely but that's because of this tendency most have to overwork ourselves, artists minds already have this predisposition to feeling pressured onto creating and so when our hobby becomes a gruelling tasks, it's mostly because of added pressure we put on ourselves to perform a particular way. if we can do as guided and switch things up to be fully in alignment with our health and wealth as one, then when your hobby becomes your job, you'll never work a day in your life. Find a way to keep he inner child alive and the magic that artists gravitate towards can always be seen 😊🤙🏼
I actually experienced a lot of back/neck strain and wrist problems at my old job as a programmer, so I learned from that to take constant breaks when I became a self-employed artist. In fact, that's one of the reasons I wanted to work for myself, because then I wouldn't feel guilty or stressed about taking a break outside the designated break times at work.
OMG!!! I just thought I was a recluse and home body. I also have been working home alone for YEARS!! I painted tile backsplashes for about 20 years and then jewelry and now I'm painting animals with acrylics and just discovered alcohol ink and now that"s all I want to do! I talk to my dogs all day. LOI Also, I love your work!!! Thank you for sharing. :)
I just found you and I have been binge watching your videos. Thank you thank you thank you! I have been feeling so guilty about everything that you said and it makes me so happy that others feel the same way. And also with your other videos about selling originals and all of the advice you wish you hadn't taken. You have just made me so happy to know I am not alone! Bless you for being so open, honest, and vulnerable 💗
Oh Ellen, you're so lovely! Agree with all of these points. Getting a dog has been good for keeping social and leaving the house! Yoga and weights is a must for looking after muscles and joints. Posture is a big issue since going freelance :/ having your studio at home is a double edged sword - it's convenient, with no commute or expense, however, it's very hard to switch off from work when you need to, and at the same time, it's difficult not to get distracted by chores and housey things. In order to stay more organised and on top of things, as am definitely prone to being chaotic and disorganised, I have only just jumped on the bullet journal train. I hope this will help me feel more in control of things. Phew! It's great being freelance, but not all kittens and rainbows :D Thanks for sharing your experience!
Laura Brett i’m so glad for your comment here! Oh my goodness, getting distracted by house chores is a big issue of mine! I will wander out of my studio to grab a cup of tea and before I know it an hour has passed because I’ve been distracted by the likes of laundry! 😂
Thank you so much for this video I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one who had all these thoughts. I do a weekly market just to get out the house and have a social life. Found it really helped with the feeling of isolation. Exercise is important too, my back went after a day of doing French knots on a large piece without a break! I was out of action for weeks! Who knew French knots were so dangerous :) Thank you for the videos xx
I am glad I stumbled onto your video on the cons of being an artist. I recently went into retirement and decided to once again take up sketching and painting. I’ve been told much of what I do could be sold so I started turning out the work. First I discovered my hobby was becoming work and that was a downer. I am discovering my neck and upper arm and shoulder are constantly locked up and that area of my body is in pain and it feels as if the area is ‘buzzing’ or trembling all the time. Lately, I find there are times my fingers do not respond as they should. I think I need to take some time off from retirement and go back to work in order to get a rest. Great video. Great advice. I am glad I stumbled onto your presentation. I hope and trust you are doing well and following much of the advice you have passed out.
Robert, thank you for taking the time to leave your comment here. I'm glad you've found a new post-retirement career, but yes - I can see where you might need to find a job just so you can rest a bit! lol! We're so used to working nonstop at jobs we dislike, no one talks much about the need to treat our bodies equally well when we're enjoying what we do. Many breaks and stretching sounds like something you definitely could benefit from. I take many breaks throughout the day now, whether I want to or not - cause if I don't, my body sure sends up that red flag! haha Take care!
Just before you said it, I was thinking, "there is no perfect job". Every dream job definitely has its headaches, even though people salivate over them. I spent many months working from home (just mundane office work) and loved it, no more traveling with grumpy people on public transport during the rush hour was the best feeling ever. But yep, it can be potentially negative; I stayed locked up in the house doing work most days. I function perfectly well like that, but even I used to have to go to the coffee shop just to be around people every now and again to prevent me becoming a total hermit.
I agree with all of this. I’ve had studios both in my home and in a separate location. The latter definitely provides a healthier balance for me, but I’m lucky enough to live in a city with safe and affordable commercial spaces downtown, a 35 minute walk/15 minute cycle from home. The movement of the commute helps with both mind and body! Thanks for these videos. I’ve passed them along to artists newer in their journeys, often to have someone else reiterate advice I’ve given them.
thank you for your kind comment, Ellen. How wonderful it is that you're not only able to leave your work at your studio, but you're also able to get in some exercise (and the added bonus of mentally preparing yourself for your day along the way). Love that! Many thanks for finding my videos useful enough to share with others; greatly appreciate that :)
I really appreciate you posting about the loneliness and isolation - This is very true. I get up and make up my bed and get ready in the morning and I have coffee - iced coffee or iced tea in the morning - shower or bathe at night - I get ready - I don't sit around in my pajamas. I make sure to go outside for a few hours every mid-morning to not get isolated.
My shoulders both didn't hurt until about 1 week after I cut 45' off my sister's metal roof with my new angle grinder while reaching and doing it on top of a ladder. I should have been smarter at age 67. Then my shoulder muscles gave me the worst pulling pain I didn't realize a human could experience! Only deep massage across (not down the length) my shoulder muscles gave me relief. Ice helped too. It still hurts but is diminishing gradually. It put me in bed many times, but it hurt there too. It's a good reminder... I am not 10 anymore!
Totally agree with all your very valid points👌 I currently have to work for another company full time to pay the rent etc..... but I also work around the clock in my spare time to produce art and when I’m in the zone - I literally can become obsessed because my creative time is sooooo precious to me . I am going to take on board all your tips and experience . I have people comment to me regularly saying I should be doing my art full time ..... and that’s my goal,!! But transitioning to full time artist is risky and needs to be done in stages..... plus ... I recognise that as you say ... the business side of things is at least 50% ... and most full time artist I follow put in around 100 hours a week to succeed as a financially profitable artist .... most people don’t recognise how much extra work goes on behind scenes. Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏼💕
Hi Ellen, thank you for sharing such an important eye openers. All you are talking about, not only from this video but the formal videos as well is so true. I’ve experienced all of it. I am one of the lucky people to have a studio outside. That was the change. If you have room enough, it might be helpful to tackle loneliness by other artists renting a workplace in your studio. Be careful, make sure you will keep at least two days a week for your self. An artist needs to have days to be alone, in order to be able to focus. Thank you again Ellen.
Thank you so much for being you, being honest and transparent about the business of art. You are so right, not many people are as honest and open about the pros, cons, virtues, joys and hardships. Many do not share their keys to success ( albeit it comes with many trial and errors) . A lot of people are guard full of sharing. I so love your unfiltered honesty. Love you, keep on shinning. You are a beacon of light ( at least to one person - ME) I’m sure there are many to whom you have helped. Keep following this path. God IS using you for good. Hope you are filled with great blessings. -
Hi Ellen, thank you so much for your advices. I have started since a few months and I have been working 7 days on top of my other "serious job"". With painting, putting my web site and shop, working on social medias, making promotion, and basically building my business in french and english, I definitly have to make my schedule more disciplined. The fact you are talking about your shoulder problems makes me realize that I have to take this seriously, especially that as an artist, most of the time, we don't have any insurance to cover this kind of event. I discovered your channel and I am so glad that you offer that kind of quality information with us. You are an inspiration and your work is great! Thanks again
I didn't know about the icing part and as someone who has a lot of muscle pain as is, that was really helpful. I will start icing my wrist after long painting sessions and remember to stretch more. I truly appreciate this advice and your youtube content.
It is great from you showing and speaking of the struggling to keep up, Some people thinks it is like wonderland, people doesnt know how bad it could get if we are not taking care of yourself. Thanks for sharing. You are doing a great service to all the artists speaking your mind, you know?
😊I’m looking forward to the tranquility of being by myself asa retire and dedicate my time to art. Not going to miss people in the office, customers, commuters or lots people around me.
1) CON - Good practice can be to keep your studio separate from your home. The trip from home to the studio can also "inspire" you by seeing people and things. 2) CON - Contrary to the "romantic" idea that artists are worms who never do any physical activity apart from drinking and smoking, you have instead to go out as much as you can and keep your fitness at high level. Some of the artists I know are in tip top physical conditions being very sporty 3) CON - See 1) CON - If possible get a studio away from home. Doesn't need to be uncomfortably away but set the time to go there and once done, it's done. go back home, or to gym (better!), or out with friends. 4) CON That applies for all self-employments.
Absolutely agree- being social is part of brain health Successful people have routines - marketing and office work has to be part of the routine, as does being in your studio, eating healthy, working out and having fun.
Yes, take breaks. Set goals for yourself...like, after I finish this section I'm going to treat myself for--whatever. This can be anything that you like/love other from your art. Even a walk or stretch. It is a lonely business and communicating with anyone on-line is great. Thanks for your insight!
I don't mind working in my home studio alone. I enjoy it. I recently started my art business 2 years ago. I don't miss commuting to work and being around a bunch of people all day, they exhaust me and stressed me out more. Also, I like doing my own thing. I talk to my cats. My personality type is an ISFP, also known as the true artist. So being a full time artist suits me. I do suffer from chronic pain in my neck, right hand and left shoulder. I know its from creating. I didn't know there was surgery to fix it. Been suffering 5 years, hope they can still fix it.
I have been wanting to start full time and always thought having a room at home to make as my shop would be ideal but you make some solid points I hadn't thought of...thanks for your wisdom 💖🙏
Hi Ellen, I am a full time artist, for about four years now. Prior to that I was working full time as an architect for 22 years, and painting on the side. I was used to working with 6 or more people in an office, with phone calls from clients, contractors, meetings, group planning, lots of interaction. The shift to working for myself and being alone all day was definitely the hardest thing, much more difficult than I imagined. My studio at first was in my house, and I felt very much cooped up, like I never got away from my business. I paint plein air a lot, or on location outside, so that helps a bunch. I meet people who walk up to me while I'm painting. Anyhow, I relate to all your points. Balancing out the marketing and office time with painting time is the next hardest. When I paint, I'm in a much different mindset than when I'm posting images on Facebook for example. I have been painting in the mornings as a routine, and doing marketing in the afternoons. I haven't tried the all day marketing approach on Tuesdays, etc., because I think I would get too tired of being on the computer all day. I try to plan out each day, either the night before, or first thing, actually writing down what I'll do that day and in what time slots. That helps me focus. Even if I don't stick to it exactly, it gives me direction. I try to limit my list to 3-5 things primary things to do per day. Here's some of my paintings: matthewleestudio.com Thanks!
Speaking of health risks, many artists die early because they're slowly poisoning themselves without realizing it. People, keep the paint off your hands and skin, also you need ventilation.
Hi, I paint from out of my basement, not much ventilation. There is sn air extractor in one window,,, Do you have any thoughts what I can do to have clean air etc?
I've been painting full time for 18 years. No friends and little contact with family. I've become so isolated that i even dread going out to buy food. Very true what you say. Also my back and shoulders are messed up for good. Would I choose this career again? Yes, but i would do it differently......more balanced.
I'm lucky in that I have found a very small studio in an artists' co-operative. We all have our separate spaces but can visit each other too. Sometimes I am desperate to talk to someone so it is great to have other people coming and going! The expense of a separate space can be daunting but I simply don't have room at home. I've considered building a studio in the back yard but I think for my mental health what I have now is better. It also connects me to other art events going on in the community, which is good for my career.
Karina, thank you for your comment on this topic. I'm very happy to know that you have found a happy medium and that it works well for you! There are certainly pros and cons to having studio space at home - and the same holds true anywhere, really! lol. Best of luck to you!
I just found your channel. Your content is unique and helpful. I have an upstairs studio. For breaks, I am happy to have household chores to do downstairs. It's relaxing for me. It also gives me time for a step back from a painting I'm working on so that I have a fresh look after my break. I no longer use solvents. If I need it at all I use just a tiny bit. It's turpenoid natural, which is supposed to be non-toxic. I believe that it is, but I ventilate if I use it, for my health and b/c it has a very strong smell and I'm very sensitive to smells. I also turn on my TH-cam playlists on my TV and walk in place and exercise, which I do even if not doing art b/c I enjoy that. It helps on painting days b/c as you've said taking care of our bodies instead of sitting or standing all the time is important.
Not even finished with the video yet but need to say that this is a phenomenal perspective and advice! I’m a young artist and really appreciate the acknowledgment of these issues xD It’s so hard because we’re small business owners BUT we also make all of our products! We do advertising and processing as well. It’s a crazy job but I love it so much
It sounds to me, like you're very often in danger to get depressed. Or to let yourself go. And like you said, ones body gets sick. I have a big pile of firewood to saw and hack, I need a warm studio in winter 😏. And a dog to go out, he can't be left to care of himself. I couldn't stand it a year only working on drawings and paintings. Not to forget: I'm getting inspiration by being out in nature, walking and breathing fresh air. I think, it's easier, if one has some things around to force him to do more than hanging in the studio too much time. Greetings from Bavaria.
So true! Especially the inspiration part. Walking (plus daily calisthenics or yoga) is a great way to not only stay in shape but renew the spirit. One of our cats usually goes on walks with my wife and me, which we do at least once daily. But even if I'm alone, communing with nature is an absolute necessity. If I lived in a city, as I used to when I had to work for a living, then I'd be getting stimulated by the excitement of the madding crowd and general bustle.
I have tried some days where I just unplug from technology and books (I read a lot to stay up on art theory/philosophy/contemporary practice. I have not been able to make my creative project a full-time endeavor but I feel like I have connected with it being a thing that I do regardless of how I make money and so on and that seems to be a positive. I appreciated seeing your note about viewers seeing a physician. I am also starting to give out lifestyle encouragement and conceptualization to folks via my creative project mostly by blog right now and I want to make sure to let them know that my degree is in the arts. I am not a licensed physician or therapist. I really appreciated hearing about what it has been like for you in the trenches. I am no longer really a conventional artist. I believe everyone is an artist, sort of like Joseph Beuys, not that everyone can paint but that everyone can be creative in the employment of there daily life. I have a ton more to say! Peace and gratitude.
I really appreciate this video As a Artist I thought it was just me I really appreciate the fact t bgg at #1 was it can be lonely. Along of people don't realize that you have to be able to have the flow to grab the image in your head an be able to put in on caves or whatever you work with.
Another great video, thanks! Yes, I'm known to wake up and fall into creativity without changing, showering or even eating. I went over a day once not eating because I was so engrossed in what I was doing.
Agree with all you say Ellen, thanks for this video. I always think its just myself that struggles with working from home! the isolation is difficult also I find interaction with others (especially fellow artists) really inspires and motivates me to focus on my work more. My studio is a converted garage attached to my house but would prefer it to be a seperate working space. My dog places her balls and toys at my feet whilst I work and looks up at me pleadingly adding some guilt into the mix! lol
Thank you for your comment, Heather. Oh my, how I LONG for a separate work space. While I love the concept of working from home I never feel like I'm away from work because I can't just close up shop, turn the lights off and go home for the day....I'm always here and that is problematic for me. Oh your sweet pup; how adorable! She knows when it's time for you to take a break; smart little one!
My art teacher, Margaret Baumgaertner, has us set a timer for 45 minutes. when the bell goes off, we take a 15 minute break. i try to use this method when painting at home too. it helps me not feel so overwhelmed by art and everything else that needs doing.
I am so glad you mentioned the loneliness!! I paint all day every day and I feel like there is only so much company an audiobook, TH-cam & Pandora can give! There are times when I do feel lonely.. my studio is just off from my husband and my bedroom which I love.. I prefer to work from home with coffee and jammies that is the best! I have a chiropractor for my body as I do get arm ache sometimes and yeah the business side of the Art isn’t easy.. I am in a gallery but I feel like I need to do a lot of social media stuff too which I don’t really enjoy
Lucy Magee thanks so much for your comment here. I’m sorry to learn that you struggle with loneliness also, but glad to know I’m not the only one who suffers from this. It’s so important to get out and participate in the real world once in a while. All the best to you and your art business!
Oh Ellen....if only I’d had this video at least four years ago!!! I am a full time artist, running two Etsy shops, art and cards in three Galleries, and doing occasional shows....it is a lot!! Plus...always taking new ecourses to learn new techniques...always feeling behind...and overwhelmed. My main issue at present...is that four years ago I was in excellent shape, even though I have Multiple Sclerosis; and at the time was 54 years old, I had a well toned body, flat stomach, and defined arm muscles. I never realized that sitting for 8 plus hours a day, neglecting my exercise routine, and better eating habits, would result in the decline of my physical (and mental) self. I’m currently trying to reach a better balance...and looking after myself better...but I must say, with now being 58; and MS getting more difficult...it is harder to get back into shape. The neck pain, hand pain, etc., is definitely a result of my long days in the studio; and lack of self care. Also...I often put off lunch dates...feeling I have too much art that needs to get done...but when I do go out...I’m so happy for the break, the fresh air...and feel new inspiration by just being outside my own four walls. I too dislike the tech aspect of my “job”, and the paper work...I tease my husband, that when he retires, he can take over that part of things (but who am I kidding...I know I will still have to do it...as I’m sure like you are...you feel if YOU don’t do it...it won’t get done right!!) Thank you so much for this video Ellen...It is so good to feel I am not alone xoxox. Barbara
Barbara thank you so much for contributing to this discussion with your story. Wow, we have MUCH in common it sounds like! This is the blessing/curse of doing what we love. It so often comes at a cost....something I never saw in my future as a child dreaming of this. I do hope you continue to find a balance so you can have the best of both worlds because that is TRULY what it boils down to: balance. Words I have to remind myself every day as well. Best of luck to you!! 💕
Waw, @5.12 am , 101% Truth! You're talking about me. I used my arms all my life; sewing, painting etc, now my shoulders are killung ne, saitica pains now am doing venetian plastering, furniture painting and more. Loneliness was part of my life, now I work and I enjoy the comradry if ny coworkers and the customers, but my heart is my iwn art business,, I will go back to my art business but in a less demanding way.. Thank you for this eye opener
As always, wonderful information and excellent delivery! Thank you. I'm making my signs now! LOL...yes, take more breaks, stretch, get out and socialize ...balance...so so important. I've started intentionally pursuing the path toward "More-Time Artist" with thoughts of becoming full-time...but, I'm also a family entertainer so now, as I've ramped up the art business to "More Time"...and have felt much of what you describe here...boy, am I so glad that I'm still doing my shows to help balance things. Yes, I like the part you mention about being intentional to get out, take breaks, etc or it just gets harder to do! That is so true. Also, I've really had to force myself to even get out and walk more (especially when the creative fire is so intoxicating! ...Clarissa Estes Pinkola (sp?) said something along the lines that the creative fire can easily burn us or words to that effect. And so, I'm actually starting to see that I want to have more freedom to create art without getting bogged down by all the cons you mention and having cash coming in from doing my other job as a clown magician takes the pressure off financially and helps me (or is helping me) to not feel as if my fledgling, albeit pretty successful at this early stage (starting year 3)...is not a grind...or threatening to become a grind. Anyway, I'm rambling a bit, but you've really helped me to see how I can basically enjoy art more by being more balanced with self care etc. Thank you so very much! ps...having my dog helps inspire me to walk more!
I'm so glad you found this helpful, Dave. And yes, dogs make a huge difference, don't they? Mine has started figuring out when I'm past due for breakfast, lunch, etc and will actually try to herd me to the kitchen! 😂
Thank you for this, I could add on that I had to start reminding myself not to under sell or sell my art for a "cheaper" price than I deserve. I had to remind myself that I put in the time and effort and hard work to create this painting, it is worth my time and energy, not a "steal" at a big box store.
As far as being isolated, you are right that it can be an issue. I happen to have a best friend who is an artist and I have her over once a week to play art with me. Sometimes we do major works at the same time and other times it's just coffee and gelliplate fun. Thank you for the video. My shoulders always hurt. I used to ice them. I'm going to start again. God bless you. I'm enjoying your videos.
i feel you, really, it's very lonely but also very burdening. So much work goes into promoting your art, on social media, interacting with 'possible clients', being alone all day long, it;s really lonely yes.... and i do sometimes feel like i want to give up, but i love being creative and making art, but it's very stressful.... on the other hand, i don't see myself having a regular 9 to 5 job.
Gotta say I am glad I take a lot of breaks and still get all my work done. I’m only 22 but I know so many people my age who already have drawing injuries! I’m glad I don’t! I think the icing is a good idea and I may start doing that as a precaution
So true about taking breaks. I've just learnt this one the hard way. Determined to finish a sketch in one sitting, I sat bent knee'd on my bed, propped up with pillows. I could feel my back complaining but I was on a mission. What an idiot. I've suffered for days because of it. So yes, thank you. That is great advice to set the alarm for stretch breaks
The beauty and beast that is online selling. I have to admit it, as a full time artist working from home those pesky covid restrictions really didn't change my lifestyle all that much.
I joined the YMCA and I started working out every afternoon four years ago. I went swimming every morning then worked out in the gym every afternoon. I keep doing my work outs and swimming every afternoon. I am a dancer/actor/author years before I started painting and drawing full time too. Fabulous true video. :) I'm listening to you. I don't "work on my art work" - I just do it. :)
I think you may be more productive in all areas if you have a routine, which means you are going to work - get up at close to the same time each day (go to bed doing the same), work out - some fitness, take a shower, do your hair on some days, eat breakfast and then go to work - your studio or office - meaning it is a business. You need to care for yourself - eating healthy and working out is very important for productivity and creativity - time management, too.
well most of cons you were discussing are come down to not being organised. I know full time artists who wake up early to do work out ,have breakfast and clean up then start working on their art ,also if you live with someone else it is not going to be as lonely. Most office jobs are dealing with constantly sitting ,at least with art you would enjoy what you do. I only started to try being a full time artist and only issue I have is that I am good enough at what I am doing! lol I am very slow as I don't have much experience with digital painting. I am hoping to find an apprenticeship so I can improve and make some money...
I know these aches well from being a special effects artist facing brutal 10 or more hour days. I stretch, then hit the gym before breakfast and then swim later in the day depending on scheduling. Lower back issues are no joke. Ice packs for the arm for too much airbrushing. Don't eat bread! It slows down the digestive tract and is now very likely GMO. Have water on hand and drink as you work. Your chats are great Ellen!
What do you think about using a "Mall stick" I made one but never use it because it's a bit awkward holding my paint brush. I'm motivated now to use the Mall stick to a avoid shoulder injury. Maybe some exercise to strengthen shoulder. Or.Maybe warm up exercise, arm stretching. It maybe too much to do all at once but I can't imagine how scared you were. You are so resilient you could use your toes to paint Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your comment :) I've never used a mall stick so I can't share an opinion on that but I think anything that relieves the joints from repetitive motion is worth considering.
I don't really think the cons you mentioned arent cons for me or my situation...coz being busy having a job and enjoying what you do is a great opportunity.i have hard time having or earning money with art...
I hurte my back and I had to the ER. Very painful problem with the sciatica and very expensive. I had this problem for sitting in the floor while painting and I am young to to have this issue. I finally got better but I am terrified to have it return because it sometimes bothers me. Now I am very careful to not sit long periods of time in wrong positions, etc.
Going to a pool helps a lot, floating in the deep side and letting your body float its incredible. The weight of your body stretches the joints etc., it is wonderful. You might want to ask your doctor first, it helped me.
I'm a public school art teacher and was also a stay at home mom for 14 years. I'm moving toward building an art business as my early retirement plan. I miss the days of being at home but I will say that when I was I rarely made art because of constant household chores nagging me. I think it would be hard being alone all the time and it would be best to have a routine for work and self-preservation type activities - exercise, socializing, etc. to help. I appreciate this video. Thank you.
Hey Ellen, If you've got scar tissue and joint issues, check out serrapeptase. It is an enzyme that can dissolve scar tissue. We had amazing help from it. There is also a natural salve called Traumeel that has herbs in it that really helped us with muscle fatigue and soreness. I order from iHerb, they have great prices. Hugs. I even put the traumeel on before I paint. I also see a chiropractor to keep my neck and shoulders in line...it makes a world of difference.
Hi Lady, not to be mean but you should not ice your joints or muscles. Athletes are a different matter and they don`t stay in their top shape over 35 (mostly men). Swelling is a natural reaction to stress and it happens for a good reason. Icing is artificially taking that mechanism out so that your body can heal less effectively. Warm your muscles up, blood flow. Move your joints before starting work for the fluids to flow and alignment to reset. Blood flow, like stimulating with short brakes during work will help you fatigue your body slower. A good diet is also important if you want to function well in doing your craft beyond your prime years. (see, lchf, carnivore and other non plant and grain based diets) Stretching ligaments and your faschia is terribly important, also a good chair with practiced good posture will keep you healthy. Breathing is critical also, how you do it during work and after. Listen to a book or some music if you like that during work and DO NOT ice inflammation.
I'm married and my wife handles a lot of the stuff you mention, although we trade responsibilities so it's never just all on her. Plus, we hire professional help as needed. So my advice is either find a spouse willing to help out or find help from people who are willing to do so on some sort of trade basis, if you're not making enough to pay them. Or join a co-op. Artists have always needed someone to take care of them while they had fun, fun, fun...ahem. When there's a will...
Con number #1 isn't a con for me... being alone is bliss! Plus I have my darling cats to keep me company 😊. But yeah I agree that the less you go out the less you want to go out and it is important that we remind ourselves to go out sometimes so that we don't become complete anti social hermits! I teach community yoga classes twice per week and more often than not I don't feel like it but I always end up feeling better for it. I can so relate to not being able to put your work down! I have been busy writing up a 28 page business plan for a startup business grant. I did this in my PJ's mostly, skipped meals and worked through all hours of the night. Spent a lot of time on creating overly thorough terms and conditions for my new Etsie shop also. I have written up a schedule which you also mention in your video, just to be clear on what needs to be done on what days and to get back in to a healthier work/life routine 🙂. It is so easy to lose track of time when you are passionate about something but we are doing ourselves and our work a favour by stopping to stretch and get some fresh air now and again. I will do my best to schedule in breaks. We are worth it and our art can wait now and again 😉.
@@EllenBrennemanStudio So true!! 😀 They are probably the only things that make me want to stop for breaks... never mind the food. Only joking. But it would be great to have a Jamie Oliver in the house 😉.
Thanks for your comment! I have two videos on that topic. The link to one is here: th-cam.com/video/jfd-gn4ZagU/w-d-xo.html and you can find the other link in the description box under that video. Hope it helps!
Hi Ellen, so appreciate your videos. I learn something useful from each one. In regards to scanning and printing your artwork, are you using a special non-fading ink cartridge? I’ve noticed that anything I have ever printed fades over time. I assume you must be using a special ink cartridge that doesn’t. Could you share this information. Thank you. Glenn
I just have a question: Do you ever feel as a full time artist that you go through times where you don’t feel creative or, you have an artist block from creativity? Maybe this should be another topic. I struggle to have a schedule to be creative on Mondays and Wednesday’s and do business on Tuesdays and Thursday or whatever schedule that it may be. I can’t seem to just turn myself on whenever like a light switch. Does anyone else have this issue?
Oh my gosh yes, I do feel this way. It comes in waves, generally. For me, however, I find that when I'm feeling this way it usually means I'm getting burned out - not so much that I can't be creative. I will say though, I have never been one for schedules, even though I know they are helpful. Thank you for your question! Hopefully someone else will offer an answer here as well :)
I have an allotment where i grow my veg and its nice to just pop up there and get fresh air and exercise. I dont know if you have this in the usa.. i temp too to try and get money in whilst im getting established. But i long to get back to art, illustration and graphic design when im there.xx
That's so nice, Sonia. SO important to get out for a stretch and reconnect with nature. We have something similar to this called a unity garden which is more for a community of people. Such terrific ideas :)
All solid points and advice! Like you said, forewarned is forearmed, and a lot of these can be solved with lifestyle management. One of the biggest challenges for me is the unstable/uncertain finances and future (which I imagine is the same for any independent business). Its very anxiety provoking to not know that I have a paycheck coming next week, and to not know whether all the effort and investment will actually come to a stable and fruitful career or not. Have you experienced this at all or not?
David Puck - Artist Oh my gosh David, every day! You’re right, it is very anxiety provoking and I think the most difficult thing to manage is not knowing how to properly budget my finances. I’m going on seven years full-time now and can gauge when times will be slow but there are always exceptions to that rule, like when the economy is unstable; then all of that changes.
Thank you so much for sharing all these Ellen! love to paint and I participate to expositions every year at ZollStudio here in Maryland but Iam not a good seller sometimes, and I still would like to get a good part time job on retail or as secretary just because I need some income and have relations with other people. Even though, people say it is not good to do two or more things at a time, but only one, which I would choose painting. Do you think that is true? To have two part time jobs: painting and other job, for example?
Hi, Maria! Personally, if getting a part time job enhanced my life, provided less of a financial burden and gave me the opportunity to learn social skills needed to further my career, I wouldn't hesitate to get one as long as it still allowed me the time to paint. 😊
always paint what you like....make it jewel like...there is no such thing as abstract art....i'm watching this for the wrong reason I know but this lady is seriously good looking!
I take dance breaks. I make sure to dance half an hour every afternoon and I ride my bike for a good cardio work out - on sidewalks only to be safe. :)
I just remembered how to avoid a body that tends to get tired on a regular basis when you do art with that said I would suggest that you have a lots of fruits 🍉 🍇 🍈 it gives you tonnes of energy when you work drink milk avoid alcohol coke Pepsi have eggs it gives you calcium walk in the park for one hour go to the gym to increase bone density do yoga.
Not relevant at all lol but I love your hair ❤️ but I totally agree have been doing art full time for about 4 or 5 months and definitely different to a normal job! Absolutely love it! I though naively that I would have more time after leaving my job 50-60 hours and doing art but I live and breathe art, I find it very hard to put art down and schedule time off.
Aw, thank you! :) And congratulations for making the transition to doing art full time!! It's so exciting, especially in the beginning. Not wanting to stop is part of the problem for me - lol I have to force myself to take more breaks now even when I seriously don't want to.
Ellen Brenneman Studio lol I totally agree!! And thank you! I'm so happy! Feel like I'm always learning, I always tend to take on more then I can chew, hopefully I will get myself to slow down abit haha love your art ❤️❤️
Reena, hello! 😃 Mixed media is defined as using multiple mediums to create a single artwork. An example of this would be using watercolor, acrylic paint, pencil, collage, etc. to create a finished work. I hope this helps!
There are health hazards to all work, but I'd rather sit to paint than sit in a cubicle. Writers get sitting an typing problems. No matter what, stretching and breaks are important. I like that painting behind your head.
Thank you for the heads-up and for taking time to do this video. I found this really useful as i'm looking into doing art full-time soon.
Again, great tips. Having been bent over a drawing board 9-5 and then freelancing on the weekends and later on standing painting I can relate! For a time, I was also a fitness trainer so I know how important it is to take care of one's body..the "temple of the soul"! Yoga is great as well as any PT stretching. Artists need to keep Arnica on hand which is for muscle strains and pulls and is great for lightening bruises. Also take epsom salt baths which is magnesium which is great for de-stressing and for pain! Also Cal-Mags with Zinc...Calcium/Magnesium supplements which doctors recommend for people who stand on their feet a lot...calcium for your bones and magnesium for one's muscles. The Zinc helps the body to absorb it all! Take care , you only have one body and take care of your eyes and hands as well. I went partially blind in one eye from too high blood pressure in my early 60s and also have a mild form of MS despite taking care of myself physically. Never take your health or body parts for granted!!
Even as a professional artist I could never do it full time 24/7! I had to do other things some just as important like being married for 42 years until death did us part and raising three daughters and having to partially raise my oldest granddaughter. I'm also a composer and composed a full length folk opera plus other pieces for piano. My art teacher in junior high always said to " get away from your work" to gain a better perspective. I took him at his word! I also asked him "how do you become famous?" He told me, "you have to make a name for yourself"! Haven't done that and don't think I want to go quite that route. Maybe it will happen after I'm dead and gone like Van Gogh! lol Thanks for sharing the downside of which unfortunately, there are quite a few! The upside is that by doing other things besides art, one becomes a more interesting person! "Variety is the spice of life" like they say!
I LOVE THIS! " Icing down and taking care of your body"... This is GOLD!
I worked as a cashier and I developed shoulder problems, mostly in my left shoulder because I'm left handed. A doctor told me to take gelatin. You just buy bulk gelatin. You stir in a teaspoon of gelatin in a cup of coffee. It dissolves in hot drinks. It is pretty much tasteless but you coffee will turn to a jello like consistency if it gets cold. It contains ingredients that make up the cartilage in your joints and it really helps to rebuild and maintain that. If you do this three times per day for 90 days, it will really improve your shoulders and the rest of the joints in your body. It really improved my shoulders. I take it now once per day for maintenance. It also improved my knee joints. At one point, I could barely bend my one knee. Three months of this gelatin treatment and my knees completely recovered. My shoulder will still bother me from time to time when I over stress it, like painting for 10 hours in a day. I guess any part of your body might start complaining if you push it that hard so it's mostly tiredness at this point. I hope this works for you.
Thank you for your comment; I'm so glad it has helped you!
One of my tutors told me ages ago something that I never forgot; Turning your hobby into your job sounds ideal, but it has one huge disadvantage, you loose your hobby in the process.
He meant, doing the thing you love for money ( and that is the kind of money you need to live on), instead of doing it for fun changes things. A lot. To the point that it is not really (as much) fun anymore.
That's true, I enjoyed creating work in the past but when it became a business I realised I just didn't enjoy it anymore and it became stressful. It sounds like a great idea, people say do what you love, but it doesn't always just work out like that.
I experienced this when I was younger and it was a shocking revelation. On one hand, I was lucky to do something I loved for a living, on the other, I lost my passion for it because it felt like “work”. I was a bit depressed about it because I thought I would be happier doing something I loved as a way to earn a living. In my case, it felt like I had lost something that had brought me joy. So my solution was to instead focus on making my living by doing the second thing I loved most. That way I could still have my main muse and not have it be “tainted”. So far, this has worked out and I’m much happier.
When you starting thinking your prior love is now work.....consider the alternative (whatever you did before focusing on art). I think you'll soon start loving it again.
@@andrewfrank4063 Don't get me wrong, I don't say it is necessarily a bad idea. The point my tutor made is that things will change doing this.
Absolutely but that's because of this tendency most have to overwork ourselves, artists minds already have this predisposition to feeling pressured onto creating and so when our hobby becomes a gruelling tasks, it's mostly because of added pressure we put on ourselves to perform a particular way. if we can do as guided and switch things up to be fully in alignment with our health and wealth as one, then when your hobby becomes your job, you'll never work a day in your life. Find a way to keep he inner child alive and the magic that artists gravitate towards can always be seen 😊🤙🏼
I actually experienced a lot of back/neck strain and wrist problems at my old job as a programmer, so I learned from that to take constant breaks when I became a self-employed artist. In fact, that's one of the reasons I wanted to work for myself, because then I wouldn't feel guilty or stressed about taking a break outside the designated break times at work.
OMG!!! I just thought I was a recluse and home body. I also have been working home alone for YEARS!! I painted tile backsplashes for about 20 years and then jewelry and now I'm painting animals with acrylics and just discovered alcohol ink and now that"s all I want to do! I talk to my dogs all day. LOI Also, I love your work!!! Thank you for sharing. :)
LOL, Claudia! You are not alone, my friend!! ;)
I just found you and I have been binge watching your videos. Thank you thank you thank you! I have been feeling so guilty about everything that you said and it makes me so happy that others feel the same way. And also with your other videos about selling originals and all of the advice you wish you hadn't taken. You have just made me so happy to know I am not alone! Bless you for being so open, honest, and vulnerable 💗
Oh Ellen, you're so lovely!
Agree with all of these points. Getting a dog has been good for keeping social and leaving the house! Yoga and weights is a must for looking after muscles and joints. Posture is a big issue since going freelance :/ having your studio at home is a double edged sword - it's convenient, with no commute or expense, however, it's very hard to switch off from work when you need to, and at the same time, it's difficult not to get distracted by chores and housey things. In order to stay more organised and on top of things, as am definitely prone to being chaotic and disorganised, I have only just jumped on the bullet journal train. I hope this will help me feel more in control of things. Phew! It's great being freelance, but not all kittens and rainbows :D
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Laura Brett i’m so glad for your comment here! Oh my goodness, getting distracted by house chores is a big issue of mine! I will wander out of my studio to grab a cup of tea and before I know it an hour has passed because I’ve been distracted by the likes of laundry! 😂
Thank you so much for this video I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one who had all these thoughts. I do a weekly market just to get out the house and have a social life. Found it really helped with the feeling of isolation. Exercise is important too, my back went after a day of doing French knots on a large piece without a break! I was out of action for weeks! Who knew French knots were so dangerous :) Thank you for the videos xx
I am glad I stumbled onto your video on the cons of being an artist. I recently went into retirement and decided to once again take up sketching and painting. I’ve been told much of what I do could be sold so I started turning out the work. First I discovered my hobby was becoming work and that was a downer. I am discovering my neck and upper arm and shoulder are constantly locked up and that area of my body is in pain and it feels as if the area is ‘buzzing’ or trembling all the time. Lately, I find there are times my fingers do not respond as they should. I think I need to take some time off from retirement and go back to work in order to get a rest. Great video. Great advice. I am glad I stumbled onto your presentation. I hope and trust you are doing well and following much of the advice you have passed out.
Robert, thank you for taking the time to leave your comment here. I'm glad you've found a new post-retirement career, but yes - I can see where you might need to find a job just so you can rest a bit! lol! We're so used to working nonstop at jobs we dislike, no one talks much about the need to treat our bodies equally well when we're enjoying what we do. Many breaks and stretching sounds like something you definitely could benefit from. I take many breaks throughout the day now, whether I want to or not - cause if I don't, my body sure sends up that red flag! haha
Take care!
Just before you said it, I was thinking, "there is no perfect job". Every dream job definitely has its headaches, even though people salivate over them. I spent many months working from home (just mundane office work) and loved it, no more traveling with grumpy people on public transport during the rush hour was the best feeling ever. But yep, it can be potentially negative; I stayed locked up in the house doing work most days. I function perfectly well like that, but even I used to have to go to the coffee shop just to be around people every now and again to prevent me becoming a total hermit.
Glad to see there are others like me out there. Thank you for your comment!
I agree with all of this. I’ve had studios both in my home and in a separate location. The latter definitely provides a healthier balance for me, but I’m lucky enough to live in a city with safe and affordable commercial spaces downtown, a 35 minute walk/15 minute cycle from home. The movement of the commute helps with both mind and body! Thanks for these videos. I’ve passed them along to artists newer in their journeys, often to have someone else reiterate advice I’ve given them.
thank you for your kind comment, Ellen. How wonderful it is that you're not only able to leave your work at your studio, but you're also able to get in some exercise (and the added bonus of mentally preparing yourself for your day along the way). Love that! Many thanks for finding my videos useful enough to share with others; greatly appreciate that :)
SO true...Taking care of yourself is everything. Ergonomic work space, stretching, doing shoulder strengthening exercises...
Kristy Guenther all very good points! Thanks so much for your comment here! 😊
Hi Ellen. I'd recommend you see an osteopath or a cranial-sacral therapist.
I really appreciate you posting about the loneliness and isolation - This is very true. I get up and make up my bed and get ready in the morning and I have coffee - iced coffee or iced tea in the morning - shower or bathe at night - I get ready - I don't sit around in my pajamas. I make sure to go outside for a few hours every mid-morning to not get isolated.
My shoulders both didn't hurt until about 1 week after I cut 45' off my sister's metal roof with my new angle grinder while reaching and doing it on top of a ladder. I should have been smarter at age 67. Then my shoulder muscles gave me the worst pulling pain I didn't realize a human could experience! Only deep massage across (not down the length) my shoulder muscles gave me relief. Ice helped too. It still hurts but is diminishing gradually. It put me in bed many times, but it hurt there too. It's a good reminder... I am not 10 anymore!
Totally agree with all your very valid points👌 I currently have to work for another company full time to pay the rent etc..... but I also work around the clock in my spare time to produce art and when I’m in the zone - I literally can become obsessed because my creative time is sooooo precious to me . I am going to take on board all your tips and experience .
I have people comment to me regularly saying I should be doing my art full time ..... and that’s my goal,!!
But transitioning to full time artist is risky and needs to be done in stages..... plus ... I recognise that as you say ... the business side of things is at least 50% ... and most full time artist I follow put in around 100 hours a week to succeed as a financially profitable artist .... most people don’t recognise how much extra work goes on behind scenes.
Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏼💕
Hi Ellen, thank you for sharing such an important eye openers. All you are talking about, not only from this video but the formal videos as well is so true. I’ve experienced all of it. I am one of the lucky people to have a studio outside. That was the change. If you have room enough, it might be helpful to tackle loneliness by other artists renting a workplace in your studio. Be careful, make sure you will keep at least two days a week for your self. An artist needs to have days to be alone, in order to be able to focus. Thank you again Ellen.
Thank you so much for being you, being honest and transparent about the business of art. You are so right, not many people are as honest and open about the pros, cons, virtues, joys and hardships. Many do not share their keys to success ( albeit it comes with many trial and errors) . A lot of people are guard full of sharing. I so love your unfiltered honesty. Love you, keep on shinning. You are a beacon of light ( at least to one person - ME) I’m sure there are many to whom you have helped. Keep following this path. God IS using you for good. Hope you are filled with great blessings. -
Thank you. You are so right. Avoid burn out.
Hi Ellen, thank you so much for your advices. I have started since a few months and I have been working 7 days on top of my other "serious job"". With painting, putting my web site and shop, working on social medias, making promotion, and basically building my business in french and english, I definitly have to make my schedule more disciplined. The fact you are talking about your shoulder problems makes me realize that I have to take this seriously, especially that as an artist, most of the time, we don't have any insurance to cover this kind of event. I discovered your channel and I am so glad that you offer that kind of quality information with us. You are an inspiration and your work is great! Thanks again
Thank you so much for your thoughts on this topic - very glad you found it helpful ! 😊
I didn't know about the icing part and as someone who has a lot of muscle pain as is, that was really helpful. I will start icing my wrist after long painting sessions and remember to stretch more. I truly appreciate this advice and your youtube content.
Thank you for your kind comment Maria - I hope it helps! :)
It is great from you showing and speaking of the struggling to keep up, Some people thinks it is like wonderland, people doesnt know how bad it could get if we are not taking care of yourself. Thanks for sharing. You are doing a great service to all the artists speaking your mind, you know?
This was a very useful video. Thanks for sharing your experience and advice.
😊I’m looking forward to the tranquility of being by myself asa retire and dedicate my time to art. Not going to miss people in the office, customers, commuters or lots people around me.
1) CON - Good practice can be to keep your studio separate from your home. The trip from home to the studio can also "inspire" you by seeing people and things. 2) CON - Contrary to the "romantic" idea that artists are worms who never do any physical activity apart from drinking and smoking, you have instead to go out as much as you can and keep your fitness at high level. Some of the artists I know are in tip top physical conditions being very sporty 3) CON - See 1) CON - If possible get a studio away from home. Doesn't need to be uncomfortably away but set the time to go there and once done, it's done. go back home, or to gym (better!), or out with friends. 4) CON That applies for all self-employments.
Absolutely agree- being social is part of brain health Successful people have routines - marketing and office work has to be part of the routine, as does being in your studio, eating healthy, working out and having fun.
Yes, take breaks. Set goals for yourself...like, after I finish this section I'm going to treat myself for--whatever. This can be anything that you like/love other from your art. Even a walk or stretch. It is a lonely business and communicating with anyone on-line is great. Thanks for your insight!
all very good points, Bill - thank you for contributing to this conversation! ☺️
I don't mind working in my home studio alone. I enjoy it. I recently started my art business 2 years ago. I don't miss commuting to work and being around a bunch of people all day, they exhaust me and stressed me out more. Also, I like doing my own thing. I talk to my cats. My personality type is an ISFP, also known as the true artist. So being a full time artist suits me. I do suffer from chronic pain in my neck, right hand and left shoulder. I know its from creating. I didn't know there was surgery to fix it. Been suffering 5 years, hope they can still fix it.
I hope it can be fixed, too Rachael. Take good care of it!
I have been wanting to start full time and always thought having a room at home to make as my shop would be ideal but you make some solid points I hadn't thought of...thanks for your wisdom 💖🙏
Amy Surginer you are very welcome! 😊
Hi Ellen, I am a full time artist, for about four years now. Prior to that I was working full time as an architect for 22 years, and painting on the side. I was used to working with 6 or more people in an office, with phone calls from clients, contractors, meetings, group planning, lots of interaction. The shift to working for myself and being alone all day was definitely the hardest thing, much more difficult than I imagined. My studio at first was in my house, and I felt very much cooped up, like I never got away from my business. I paint plein air a lot, or on location outside, so that helps a bunch. I meet people who walk up to me while I'm painting. Anyhow, I relate to all your points. Balancing out the marketing and office time with painting time is the next hardest. When I paint, I'm in a much different mindset than when I'm posting images on Facebook for example. I have been painting in the mornings as a routine, and doing marketing in the afternoons. I haven't tried the all day marketing approach on Tuesdays, etc., because I think I would get too tired of being on the computer all day. I try to plan out each day, either the night before, or first thing, actually writing down what I'll do that day and in what time slots. That helps me focus. Even if I don't stick to it exactly, it gives me direction. I try to limit my list to 3-5 things primary things to do per day. Here's some of my paintings: matthewleestudio.com Thanks!
Matthew thank you for contributing to this conversation with your tips - all very helpful!!
Ellen Brenneman Studio you’re welcome😇
Speaking of health risks, many artists die early because they're slowly poisoning themselves without realizing it. People, keep the paint off your hands and skin, also you need ventilation.
This is a great reminder - thank you for bringing this up!
Drying acrylics release formaldehyde fumes. Keep ventilating while painting and drying.
Hi, I paint from out of my basement, not much ventilation. There is sn air extractor in one window,,, Do you have any thoughts what I can do to have clean air etc?
I work with oil paints and turpentine so, ventilation is important! You don’t realize it until you step outside.
I've been painting full time for 18 years. No friends and little contact with family. I've become so isolated that i even dread going out to buy food. Very true what you say. Also my back and shoulders are messed up for good. Would I choose this career again? Yes, but i would do it differently......more balanced.
I can relate to a lot of what you're saying, Tanya. It's like the saying, 'too much of a good thing...' So true.
I'm lucky in that I have found a very small studio in an artists' co-operative. We all have our separate spaces but can visit each other too. Sometimes I am desperate to talk to someone so it is great to have other people coming and going! The expense of a separate space can be daunting but I simply don't have room at home. I've considered building a studio in the back yard but I think for my mental health what I have now is better. It also connects me to other art events going on in the community, which is good for my career.
Karina, thank you for your comment on this topic. I'm very happy to know that you have found a happy medium and that it works well for you! There are certainly pros and cons to having studio space at home - and the same holds true anywhere, really! lol. Best of luck to you!
Thank you Ellen! I'm really enjoying your videos, I'm getting a lot out of them. You have a wonderfully relatable style!
I just found your channel. Your content is unique and helpful. I have an upstairs studio. For breaks, I am happy to have household chores to do downstairs. It's relaxing for me. It also gives me time for a step back from a painting I'm working on so that I have a fresh look after my break. I no longer use solvents. If I need it at all I use just a tiny bit. It's turpenoid natural, which is supposed to be non-toxic. I believe that it is, but I ventilate if I use it, for my health and b/c it has a very strong smell and I'm very sensitive to smells. I also turn on my TH-cam playlists on my TV and walk in place and exercise, which I do even if not doing art b/c I enjoy that. It helps on painting days b/c as you've said taking care of our bodies instead of sitting or standing all the time is important.
Glad to see you taking good care of yourself; thank you for your comment!
Not even finished with the video yet but need to say that this is a phenomenal perspective and advice! I’m a young artist and really appreciate the acknowledgment of these issues xD
It’s so hard because we’re small business owners BUT we also make all of our products! We do advertising and processing as well. It’s a crazy job but I love it so much
Thank you so much for your kind comment! BEST of luck to you in your art career! 😊
It sounds to me, like you're very often in danger to get depressed. Or to let yourself go. And like you said, ones body gets sick. I have a big pile of firewood to saw and hack, I need a warm studio in winter 😏. And a dog to go out, he can't be left to care of himself. I couldn't stand it a year only working on drawings and paintings.
Not to forget: I'm getting inspiration by being out in nature, walking and breathing fresh air.
I think, it's easier, if one has some things around to force him to do more than hanging in the studio too much time.
Greetings from Bavaria.
So true! Especially the inspiration part. Walking (plus daily calisthenics or yoga) is a great way to not only stay in shape but renew the spirit. One of our cats usually goes on walks with my wife and me, which we do at least once daily. But even if I'm alone, communing with nature is an absolute necessity. If I lived in a city, as I used to when I had to work for a living, then I'd be getting stimulated by the excitement of the madding crowd and general bustle.
Thank you for the good advice.
I have tried some days where I just unplug from technology and books (I read a lot to stay up on art theory/philosophy/contemporary practice. I have not been able to make my creative project a full-time endeavor but I feel like I have connected with it being a thing that I do regardless of how I make money and so on and that seems to be a positive. I appreciated seeing your note about viewers seeing a physician. I am also starting to give out lifestyle encouragement and conceptualization to folks via my creative project mostly by blog right now and I want to make sure to let them know that my degree is in the arts. I am not a licensed physician or therapist. I really appreciated hearing about what it has been like for you in the trenches. I am no longer really a conventional artist. I believe everyone is an artist, sort of like Joseph Beuys, not that everyone can paint but that everyone can be creative in the employment of there daily life. I have a ton more to say! Peace and gratitude.
Jon, my apologies in my lateness to respond to your comment. Thank you so much for contributing to this conversation! :)
I really appreciate this video As a Artist I thought it was just me I really appreciate the fact t bgg at #1 was it can be lonely. Along of people don't realize that you have to be able to have the flow to grab the image in your head an be able to put in on caves or whatever you work with.
Another great video, thanks!
Yes, I'm known to wake up and fall into creativity without changing, showering or even eating. I went over a day once not eating because I was so engrossed in what I was doing.
Bhodisatvas i’m glad I’m not the only one who does this! The important thing is that we do eventually shower, right? 😁😂
Agree with all you say Ellen, thanks for this video. I always think its just myself that struggles with working from home! the isolation is difficult also I find interaction with others (especially fellow artists) really inspires and motivates me to focus on my work more. My studio is a converted garage attached to my house but would prefer it to be a seperate working space. My dog places her balls and toys at my feet whilst I work and looks up at me pleadingly adding some guilt into the mix! lol
Thank you for your comment, Heather. Oh my, how I LONG for a separate work space. While I love the concept of working from home I never feel like I'm away from work because I can't just close up shop, turn the lights off and go home for the day....I'm always here and that is problematic for me. Oh your sweet pup; how adorable! She knows when it's time for you to take a break; smart little one!
My art teacher, Margaret Baumgaertner, has us set a timer for 45 minutes. when the bell goes off, we take a 15 minute break. i try to use this method when painting at home too. it helps me not feel so overwhelmed by art and everything else that needs doing.
I am so glad you mentioned the loneliness!! I paint all day every day and I feel like there is only so much company an audiobook, TH-cam & Pandora can give! There are times when I do feel lonely.. my studio is just off from my husband and my bedroom which I love.. I prefer to work from home with coffee and jammies that is the best! I have a chiropractor for my body as I do get arm ache sometimes and yeah the business side of the Art isn’t easy.. I am in a gallery but I feel like I need to do a lot of social media stuff too which I don’t really enjoy
Lucy Magee thanks so much for your comment here. I’m sorry to learn that you struggle with loneliness also, but glad to know I’m not the only one who suffers from this. It’s so important to get out and participate in the real world once in a while. All the best to you and your art business!
Oh Ellen....if only I’d had this video at least four years ago!!! I am a full time artist, running two Etsy shops, art and cards in three Galleries, and doing occasional shows....it is a lot!! Plus...always taking new ecourses to learn new techniques...always feeling behind...and overwhelmed. My main issue at present...is that four years ago I was in excellent shape, even though I have Multiple Sclerosis; and at the time was 54 years old, I had a well toned body, flat stomach, and defined arm muscles. I never realized that sitting for 8 plus hours a day, neglecting my exercise routine, and better eating habits, would result in the decline of my physical (and mental) self. I’m currently trying to reach a better balance...and looking after myself better...but I must say, with now being 58; and MS getting more difficult...it is harder to get back into shape. The neck pain, hand pain, etc., is definitely a result of my long days in the studio; and lack of self care. Also...I often put off lunch dates...feeling I have too much art that needs to get done...but when I do go out...I’m so happy for the break, the fresh air...and feel new inspiration by just being outside my own four walls. I too dislike the tech aspect of my “job”, and the paper work...I tease my husband, that when he retires, he can take over that part of things (but who am I kidding...I know I will still have to do it...as I’m sure like you are...you feel if YOU don’t do it...it won’t get done right!!) Thank you so much for this video Ellen...It is so good to feel I am not alone xoxox. Barbara
Barbara thank you so much for contributing to this discussion with your story. Wow, we have MUCH in common it sounds like! This is the blessing/curse of doing what we love. It so often comes at a cost....something I never saw in my future as a child dreaming of this. I do hope you continue to find a balance so you can have the best of both worlds because that is TRULY what it boils down to: balance. Words I have to remind myself every day as well. Best of luck to you!! 💕
Waw, @5.12 am , 101% Truth! You're talking about me. I used my arms all my life; sewing, painting etc, now my shoulders are killung ne, saitica pains now am doing venetian plastering, furniture painting and more.
Loneliness was part of my life, now I work and I enjoy the comradry if ny coworkers and the customers, but my heart is my iwn art business,, I will go back to my art business but in a less demanding way..
Thank you for this eye opener
Thank you so much for this video.
I understand fully what you are saying here , and it has reminded me what I need to be doing , thank you.
OMG! You totally described me. In PJ's all day , in my creative space all day , skip breakfast and lunch.
As always, wonderful information and excellent delivery! Thank you. I'm making my signs now! LOL...yes, take more breaks, stretch, get out and socialize ...balance...so so important. I've started intentionally pursuing the path toward "More-Time Artist" with thoughts of becoming full-time...but, I'm also a family entertainer so now, as I've ramped up the art business to "More Time"...and have felt much of what you describe here...boy, am I so glad that I'm still doing my shows to help balance things. Yes, I like the part you mention about being intentional to get out, take breaks, etc or it just gets harder to do! That is so true. Also, I've really had to force myself to even get out and walk more (especially when the creative fire is so intoxicating! ...Clarissa Estes Pinkola (sp?) said something along the lines that the creative fire can easily burn us or words to that effect. And so, I'm actually starting to see that I want to have more freedom to create art without getting bogged down by all the cons you mention and having cash coming in from doing my other job as a clown magician takes the pressure off financially and helps me (or is helping me) to not feel as if my fledgling, albeit pretty successful at this early stage (starting year 3)...is not a grind...or threatening to become a grind. Anyway, I'm rambling a bit, but you've really helped me to see how I can basically enjoy art more by being more balanced with self care etc. Thank you so very much! ps...having my dog helps inspire me to walk more!
I'm so glad you found this helpful, Dave. And yes, dogs make a huge difference, don't they? Mine has started figuring out when I'm past due for breakfast, lunch, etc and will actually try to herd me to the kitchen! 😂
@@EllenBrennemanStudio that is hilarious! My dog usually paws me LOL
Thank you for this, I could add on that I had to start reminding myself not to under sell or sell my art for a "cheaper" price than I deserve. I had to remind myself that I put in the time and effort and hard work to create this painting, it is worth my time and energy, not a "steal" at a big box store.
You are absolutely right, Chelsea- Thank you for contributing to this conversation with that very important point!
As far as being isolated, you are right that it can be an issue. I happen to have a best friend who is an artist and I have her over once a week to play art with me. Sometimes we do major works at the same time and other times it's just coffee and gelliplate fun.
Thank you for the video. My shoulders always hurt. I used to ice them. I'm going to start again. God bless you. I'm enjoying your videos.
such a great idea to do that with your friend 😊 Take care of those shoulders!
i feel you, really, it's very lonely but also very burdening. So much work goes into promoting your art, on social media, interacting with 'possible clients', being alone all day long, it;s really lonely yes.... and i do sometimes feel like i want to give up, but i love being creative and making art, but it's very stressful.... on the other hand, i don't see myself having a regular 9 to 5 job.
Gotta say I am glad I take a lot of breaks and still get all my work done. I’m only 22 but I know so many people my age who already have drawing injuries! I’m glad I don’t! I think the icing is a good idea and I may start doing that as a precaution
so glad to know you're taking lots of breaks. Something I wish I'd known to do early on - and icing does help!
So true about taking breaks. I've just learnt this one the hard way. Determined to finish a sketch in one sitting, I sat bent knee'd on my bed, propped up with pillows. I could feel my back complaining but I was on a mission. What an idiot. I've suffered for days because of it. So yes, thank you. That is great advice to set the alarm for stretch breaks
The beauty and beast that is online selling. I have to admit it, as a full time artist working from home those pesky covid restrictions really didn't change my lifestyle all that much.
I joined the YMCA and I started working out every afternoon four years ago. I went swimming every morning then worked out in the gym every afternoon. I keep doing my work outs and swimming every afternoon. I am a dancer/actor/author years before I started painting and drawing full time too. Fabulous true video. :) I'm listening to you. I don't "work on my art work" - I just do it. :)
"Con: I don't get out of my pajamas until 3pm"... so you mean "PRO" lol
We all need a little help.
I think you may be more productive in all areas if you have a routine, which means you are going to work - get up at close to the same time each day (go to bed doing the same), work out - some fitness, take a shower, do your hair on some days, eat breakfast and then go to work - your studio or office - meaning it is a business. You need to care for yourself - eating healthy and working out is very important for productivity and creativity - time management, too.
😂 😮 No, It means 365 days artist life. Studio art gallery stuff. 😮
Ellen you have such great advice! 😊 All of this resonates with me even when I'm not full time
Amanda, thank you for your kind comment! ☺️
so eyeopening. thankyou Ellen
Farha Akram you are very welcome!
Thanks a lot. I really need to take care of my body
well most of cons you were discussing are come down to not being organised. I know full time artists who wake up early to do work out ,have breakfast and clean up then start working on their art ,also if you live with someone else it is not going to be as lonely. Most office jobs are dealing with constantly sitting ,at least with art you would enjoy what you do. I only started to try being a full time artist and only issue I have is that I am good enough at what I am doing! lol I am very slow as I don't have much experience with digital painting. I am hoping to find an apprenticeship so I can improve and make some money...
Yea, you have to skedule and pace yourself. You could end up getting sick and or hurting yourself if you don't. I just had to go take a walk myself.
Thank you Ellen for the videos , very helpful . could you please make a video about packaging the art work
Faten Ibrahim here is a link to that video for you: th-cam.com/video/FPi1Inh0XK0/w-d-xo.html
I know these aches well from being a special effects artist facing brutal 10 or more hour days. I stretch, then hit the gym before breakfast and then swim later in the day depending on scheduling.
Lower back issues are no joke. Ice packs for the arm for too much airbrushing.
Don't eat bread! It slows down the digestive tract and is now very likely GMO.
Have water on hand and drink as you work.
Your chats are great Ellen!
Good advice there, Tom. Stretching and frequent breaks are so important!
I learn so much.Thank you from Spain 🤗.
Patricia, you are very welcome - thank you for watching! :)
What do you think about using a "Mall stick" I made one but never use it because it's a bit awkward holding my paint brush. I'm motivated now to use the Mall stick to a avoid shoulder injury. Maybe some exercise to strengthen shoulder. Or.Maybe warm up exercise, arm stretching. It maybe too much to do all at once but I can't imagine how scared you were. You are so resilient you could use your toes to paint
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your comment :) I've never used a mall stick so I can't share an opinion on that but I think anything that relieves the joints from repetitive motion is worth considering.
Ellen, love your channel & art! I'm really enjoying your video blogs, and appreciate you sharing your perspective & thoughts. Thank you!!!! :0)
Many, many thanks for your comment - so appreciate the feedback! :)
Thank you very much for the advice
You're very welcome, Perry!
Thanks for showing the negatives. As someone who wants to be an artist but is in a different career, this is helpful to plan for.
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching :)
I don't really think the cons you mentioned arent cons for me or my situation...coz being busy having a job and enjoying what you do is a great opportunity.i have hard time having or earning money with art...
I hurte my back and I had to the ER. Very painful problem with the sciatica and very expensive. I had this problem for sitting in the floor while painting and I am young to to have this issue. I finally got better but I am terrified to have it return because it sometimes bothers me. Now I am very careful to not sit long periods of time in wrong positions, etc.
Going to a pool helps a lot, floating in the deep side and letting your body float its incredible. The weight of your body stretches the joints etc., it is wonderful. You might want to ask your doctor first, it helped me.
I'm a public school art teacher and was also a stay at home mom for 14 years. I'm moving toward building an art business as my early retirement plan. I miss the days of being at home but I will say that when I was I rarely made art because of constant household chores nagging me. I think it would be hard being alone all the time and it would be best to have a routine for work and self-preservation type activities - exercise, socializing, etc. to help. I appreciate this video. Thank you.
Victoria Wylie how wonderful and exciting for you! Best of luck to you, Victoria! 🙏🏼😊
Hey Ellen, If you've got scar tissue and joint issues, check out serrapeptase. It is an enzyme that can dissolve scar tissue. We had amazing help from it. There is also a natural salve called Traumeel that has herbs in it that really helped us with muscle fatigue and soreness. I order from iHerb, they have great prices. Hugs. I even put the traumeel on before I paint. I also see a chiropractor to keep my neck and shoulders in line...it makes a world of difference.
SO kind of you for sharing this information - thank you!! ☺️
Thanks alot
Hi Lady, not to be mean but you should not ice your joints or muscles. Athletes are a different matter and they don`t stay in their top shape over 35 (mostly men). Swelling is a natural reaction to stress and it happens for a good reason. Icing is artificially taking that mechanism out so that your body can heal less effectively.
Warm your muscles up, blood flow. Move your joints before starting work for the fluids to flow and alignment to reset.
Blood flow, like stimulating with short brakes during work will help you fatigue your body slower.
A good diet is also important if you want to function well in doing your craft beyond your prime years. (see, lchf, carnivore and other non plant and grain based diets)
Stretching ligaments and your faschia is terribly important, also a good chair with practiced good posture will keep you healthy.
Breathing is critical also, how you do it during work and after.
Listen to a book or some music if you like that during work and DO NOT ice inflammation.
I'm married and my wife handles a lot of the stuff you mention, although we trade responsibilities so it's never just all on her. Plus, we hire professional help as needed. So my advice is either find a spouse willing to help out or find help from people who are willing to do so on some sort of trade basis, if you're not making enough to pay them. Or join a co-op. Artists have always needed someone to take care of them while they had fun, fun, fun...ahem. When there's a will...
Great advice here, Jonathan - thank you!
I agree with you
Please tell me what do you do when you...travel?
Thanks for the wise words. Very helpful. Regards from germany
Con number #1 isn't a con for me... being alone is bliss! Plus I have my darling cats to keep me company 😊. But yeah I agree that the less you go out the less you want to go out and it is important that we remind ourselves to go out sometimes so that we don't become complete anti social hermits! I teach community yoga classes twice per week and more often than not I don't feel like it but I always end up feeling better for it.
I can so relate to not being able to put your work down! I have been busy writing up a 28 page business plan for a startup business grant. I did this in my PJ's mostly, skipped meals and worked through all hours of the night. Spent a lot of time on creating overly thorough terms and conditions for my new Etsie shop also.
I have written up a schedule which you also mention in your video, just to be clear on what needs to be done on what days and to get back in to a healthier work/life routine 🙂. It is so easy to lose track of time when you are passionate about something but we are doing ourselves and our work a favour by stopping to stretch and get some fresh air now and again. I will do my best to schedule in breaks. We are worth it and our art can wait now and again 😉.
It's wonderful to have pets who are more than happy to let us know when we need a break, isn't it?☺️
@@EllenBrennemanStudio So true!! 😀 They are probably the only things that make me want to stop for breaks... never mind the food. Only joking. But it would be great to have a Jamie Oliver in the house 😉.
You are such an amazing teacher. Please do a video on how to find followers on FB business page/ shop. Absolutely love you and thank you. xoxoxo
Thanks for your comment! I have two videos on that topic. The link to one is here: th-cam.com/video/jfd-gn4ZagU/w-d-xo.html and you can find the other link in the description box under that video. Hope it helps!
Hi Ellen, so appreciate your videos. I learn something useful from each one. In regards to scanning and printing your artwork, are you using a special non-fading ink cartridge? I’ve noticed that anything I have ever printed fades over time. I assume you must be using a special ink cartridge that doesn’t. Could you share this information. Thank you. Glenn
Hi, Glenn - I use Chromalife 100+ professional inks in my printer. They have lightfastness of 50 years, and 300 years if the print is preserved.
I just have a question: Do you ever feel as a full time artist that you go through times where you don’t feel creative or, you have an artist block from creativity? Maybe this should be another topic. I struggle to have a schedule to be creative on Mondays and Wednesday’s and do business on Tuesdays and Thursday or whatever schedule that it may be. I can’t seem to just turn myself on whenever like a light switch. Does anyone else have this issue?
Oh my gosh yes, I do feel this way. It comes in waves, generally. For me, however, I find that when I'm feeling this way it usually means I'm getting burned out - not so much that I can't be creative. I will say though, I have never been one for schedules, even though I know they are helpful. Thank you for your question! Hopefully someone else will offer an answer here as well :)
I have an allotment where i grow my veg and its nice to just pop up there and get fresh air and exercise. I dont know if you have this in the usa.. i temp too to try and get money in whilst im getting established. But i long to get back to art, illustration and graphic design when im there.xx
That's so nice, Sonia. SO important to get out for a stretch and reconnect with nature. We have something similar to this called a unity garden which is more for a community of people. Such terrific ideas :)
All solid points and advice! Like you said, forewarned is forearmed, and a lot of these can be solved with lifestyle management. One of the biggest challenges for me is the unstable/uncertain finances and future (which I imagine is the same for any independent business). Its very anxiety provoking to not know that I have a paycheck coming next week, and to not know whether all the effort and investment will actually come to a stable and fruitful career or not. Have you experienced this at all or not?
David Puck - Artist Oh my gosh David, every day! You’re right, it is very anxiety provoking and I think the most difficult thing to manage is not knowing how to properly budget my finances. I’m going on seven years full-time now and can gauge when times will be slow but there are always exceptions to that rule, like when the economy is unstable; then all of that changes.
thank you so much
So true....artists are almost mute...So am I ....need to socialise....thanks
You need to network as an artist! Go out there! Meet people!
Thank you so much for sharing all these Ellen! love to paint and I participate to expositions every year at ZollStudio here in Maryland but Iam not a good seller sometimes, and I still would like to get a good part time job on retail or as secretary just because I need some income and have relations with other people. Even though, people say it is not good to do two or more things at a time, but only one, which I would choose painting. Do you think that is true? To have two part time jobs: painting and other job, for example?
Hi, Maria! Personally, if getting a part time job enhanced my life, provided less of a financial burden and gave me the opportunity to learn social skills needed to further my career, I wouldn't hesitate to get one as long as it still allowed me the time to paint. 😊
always paint what you like....make it jewel like...there is no such thing as abstract art....i'm watching this for the wrong reason I know but this lady is seriously good looking!
Nothing but facts in this video 🤷🏾♀
I take dance breaks. I make sure to dance half an hour every afternoon and I ride my bike for a good cardio work out - on sidewalks only to be safe. :)
very good tip i did not know
Stay positive! I see many of your vidoes seem to have negative headlines!
I just remembered how to avoid a body that tends to get tired on a regular basis when you do art with that said I would suggest that you have a lots of fruits 🍉 🍇 🍈 it gives you tonnes of energy when you work drink milk avoid alcohol coke Pepsi have eggs it gives you calcium walk in the park for one hour go to the gym to increase bone density do yoga.
Not relevant at all lol but I love your hair ❤️ but I totally agree have been doing art full time for about 4 or 5 months and definitely different to a normal job! Absolutely love it! I though naively that I would have more time after leaving my job 50-60 hours and doing art but I live and breathe art, I find it very hard to put art down and schedule time off.
Aw, thank you! :) And congratulations for making the transition to doing art full time!! It's so exciting, especially in the beginning. Not wanting to stop is part of the problem for me - lol I have to force myself to take more breaks now even when I seriously don't want to.
Ellen Brenneman Studio lol I totally agree!! And thank you! I'm so happy! Feel like I'm always learning, I always tend to take on more then I can chew, hopefully I will get myself to slow down abit haha love your art ❤️❤️
Ellen pl tell us what is exactly mixed media.
Reena, hello! 😃 Mixed media is defined as using multiple mediums to create a single artwork. An example of this would be using watercolor, acrylic paint, pencil, collage, etc. to create a finished work. I hope this helps!
True!
There are health hazards to all work, but I'd rather sit to paint than sit in a cubicle. Writers get sitting an typing problems. No matter what, stretching and breaks are important. I like that painting behind your head.
Hell Yes!