God the Holy Spirit! The early Christian Church called the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost.... because the populace understood that Ghosts could pass through solid objects, could be everywhere and anywhere and therefore it was explaining omnipresent ability of the Holy Spirit in the language of the common person. Like St Patrick explained the Trinity to the Common Irish person with the shamrock. One plant with three leafs. It's always one plant or one stem but it always has three leafs (mutations sometimes have four leafs but they're called four leaf clover not a shamrock! ) God is One but that One is divided into Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Understanding the origin of the Kaaba, it's was a Pagan building for the Pagan Hajj and pre-dates Mohammad and Islam by many centuries. I find it hard to understand why the followers of the Islamic Ideology would point their heads in the direction of Mecca and the 300 Pagan idols that were in Mecca and the 12 Pagan Idols surrounding the Kaaba! It's as if Mohammad and Islam took the Pagan Hajj, Holy place (kaaba) and Idols and made it there own!
@@generaljg4373 Over 1400 years you Muslims have prayed to Allah in a Stone Cupboard. Once a year you all walk around this Stone Cupboard. When is Allah going to wake up from his long sleep? Go read about the priests of Allah [Baal] in 1Kings18. Nobody could wake him up.
There are questions that Mel raised about what sources Dan used to come to certain minor conclusions. It would be good if Al Fadi could ask Dan to clear up which sources he used to come to the conclusions that Mel does not understand. We appreciate the work of both Dan and Mel. There are just a couple of these questions that could make us yet more certain of what they are saying.
It's interesting, why did it get so jumbled up. The Jews are not confused about Jerusalem, and for Christians both the birthplace and place of ministry of Jesus are not in question. Was there a political or ideological struggle or ideological shift going on between different internal camps of early proto Islam doctrine which are now lost because of manuscript burning or changes.
Thing is, if the proto-Muslims were monotheist Christians, where are the mosques predating the 6th Century built by these proto-Muslims? Why do they turn up only post AH?
There's a theory that the Cordoba mosque's qibla orientation is the direction to Mecca from Damascus, where the dynasty came from. Please ask Dan Gibson about that.
When you pray you face God, and God is everywhere. You do not need to recite from a book, because God writes His commandments on the tablet of your heart, and you do not need to shed blood because His His Own Son, the second person 9f the trinity shed His blood for you while ensuring the violence of the Cross. God is not the forgiving, the merciful, the just Our God is the God of pure sacrificial love of the cross
One criticism for Mr. Gibson: even though you do not have the resource to research all mosques from all historical periods, nevertheless, you should still note down the information in an appendix database for cases such as the Ottoman Mosque which faced Petra, since this appendix can be used to test your theory and critique the information which you are arbitrarily including in your main database based on your first 3 centuries criterion.
@@SzTz100 maybe I should have said Kaaba, as the Standard Islamic Narrative says that if you kiss the stone it will take away your sins. This is intercession for sins and why the stone is said to have turned black.
@@ishtarlew598 I'm a Muslim, and I started doing research about the history of Islam. I'm calling time-out until I get to the bottom of this. Enquiries and research continuing.
Hi.no reference,but i heard that Guru Nanak was at Kaaba complex and pointed his feet toward the kaaba(i assume while sitting).He was told not to point his feet in that direction.He moved his feet,and Kaaba was still facing his feet.also they wore blue and not white sheets.😅
Hajj rituals, prayers to the black stone: MUSLIMS READ THIS PRAYER IN FRONT OF THE ASWAD STONE I fulfill Your call, O Allah, I fulfill Your call, You have no partner. I fulfill Your call. Verily all praise and favors and the kingdom is for You alone, You have no partner. (From afar Muslims pray 5x/day towards the black stone on the Kaaba of Mecca). Dan Gibson is right, direction of prayer follow the black stone. Muslim worship black stone as their ALLOH SWT.
Old testament is full of rituals and is from God. What make Islam satanic is the message from its messenger. Mohammed is the only one who knows if he saw a demon in cave or if he made up that jibril story. Listening to stories coming from the Koran and hadiths I know for sure Allah cannot be the same as the God of Abraham. A Prophet wants to kill himself because he doesn't know if what squeezed him in a cave was from God until a pagan woman Kadidja convices him lol. So funny and sad
@@aldredtawasil9339 no my friend we don't kiss a black stone and fight with our own religious people to kiss that stone. So according to muslims the black stone was white. So a stone which itself could not preserve it from corruption how in this world he will decide my fate.
@@hans471 Is there any reliable evidence that Islam began in 622? The evidence was the product of a 100 year embryonic process with Islam emerging from the womb of fertile imaginations in the 720s.
@@MrDrbld you have mosque buildings in Medina etc. For the dating you have to rely on archeological style of the buildings as well as texts which give a date etc. Of those mosques...
Romans 10:9-10 (KJV) 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
The Koran is very clear about the qibla direction it is The sacred mosque in Mecca. It is just a direction to face that Allah (God) prescribed to Muslims. In the beginning it was Jerusalem. It is does not mean that Allah resides in Mecca or Jerusalem or Petra or anywhere as some comments are falsely trying to suggest. Allah is omnipresent.
Show me the word Mecca in that ARABIC verse and I’ll make sure to revise my opinion! Until then please stop your delusional nonsense and admit that Mecca wasn’t there in that verse!
I'm not trying to make you change your opinion but I'm giving other viewer my opinion and the opinion of most Muslims on this matter and let them decide for themselves@@CIRAInternational
lol, nope. If you follow Quran and Hadith Allah never enters his Creation but uses "Agents" to interfear with it. This is why Jibril brings the Quran to Mohammed but becomes more clear if you read the Quran when Miriam receives the news about her pregnancy: an unnamed spirit transmits the word of Allah. And about the Kaaba: it is important for another reason most people already know but don't unerstand.
@@slippingsnake why did Mohd kiss the black stone ? Mohd said touching the black stone will forgive your sins. This is a pagan practice, and Mohd was pagan.
@@umerdeen5340 nice change of topic! The black Stone is not even there, these are Splinters in a compound. Black Stone does not appear in the Quran, I remember at least 1 Hadith where Abu Bakr admits it is only a stone but kisses it anyway because Mohamme did it. "...touching the black stone will forgive your sins..." This clearly contradicts the quranic Message that only Allah can forgive sins so the realy important question here is why islamic scholars accepted Hadith to confirm this? This is important because it undermines the whole concept of scriptures and Ishnad (chain of Narration) that Islam is build upon. If a scholar claims that only Allah can forgive Sins but also confirms black stone kissing as a Bypass he creates a Contradiction for a central Issue of Islam; either throw out the Quran or the Hadith as an unrelible source.
@Rishal Charles mate, what has you comment to do with what I wrote? If anything it proofs that you are biased and maybe not the brightest bulb in the box.
1.8 billion and growing. Your so determined to halt the message. But this is Allah's msg. It cannot be stopped, slowed or retracted by anyone. Absolutely no one
I would argue: If Allah is ever present; ever powerful; etc... Then why must Muslims pray to the East (Mecca)? If Allah is everywhere, then why does a Muslim need to pray to the east? One can "face Allah" from the East, West, North, South, NE, SW, NW, NE and still pray to Allah. God = omnipresent;Omniscient;omnipotent - Thus, one does not need to put one's self in a specific direction to pray. Thus, (logically) one could argue (easily) that Allah (Muslim) [not =] the same god as God of Judaism and Christianity (of which both Religions do not recognize a specific direction of prayer. If this is true, then one logically must state (that Islam is not the same God as Judaism and Christianity). One must also argue that Islam is not a true monotheistic Religion (on the same lines of Judaism and Christianity).
BRO.. CAN U PLS REVEAL FROM THEY islam got that b4prayer they need to wash legs n heads ears... N wasting water just to wash out side... BUT NOT THE HEARTS N SIN 💦😂👀💯🇲🇾😅👀 AMEN🙏✅😇
when the times of namaz ( prayer) comes, it is good practice, after the tradition of prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) , to say the prayer call ( Adhan) ,the caller stands facing the Qiblah ( the direction of the Ka' aba at Mecca).
Why has there been different directions, a great number Not directed to Mecca? Ignorance or not knowing direction Is Ridicules AND YOU KNOW THAT. Deal with the reality that there ARE A MULITITUED OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. We know it. You know it. Deal with it.
Alfadis mind has got punctured uniformity of position is an essential part of prayer to maintain discipline otherwise hapazard position leads to indiscipline in prayer alfadi is under impression that one can pray to almighty even under influence of intoxication
Sir, here the discussion is about direction of Prayer .. You can call on the God anytime anywhere as he is everywhere. It's quite sad to you all put God in a box. I would pray that you would call on the name of the Lord Jesus in whatever situation/circumstance or direction you are and he will surely answer you. Please try and will not be disappointed. God bless!
@@sultanahamed2484 I have to say that I think your remark makes as much sense as does the Quran. Why didn’t you spell it out in simple language in the first place.
I'm so glad that my God is everywhere (omnipresent) and that He is looking at my heart when I pray and not a point on the earth.
God the Holy Spirit! The early Christian Church called the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost.... because the populace understood that Ghosts could pass through solid objects, could be everywhere and anywhere and therefore it was explaining omnipresent ability of the Holy Spirit in the language of the common person. Like St Patrick explained the Trinity to the Common Irish person with the shamrock. One plant with three leafs. It's always one plant or one stem but it always has three leafs (mutations sometimes have four leafs but they're called four leaf clover not a shamrock! ) God is One but that One is divided into Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Understanding the origin of the Kaaba, it's was a Pagan building for the Pagan Hajj and pre-dates Mohammad and Islam by many centuries. I find it hard to understand why the followers of the Islamic Ideology would point their heads in the direction of Mecca and the 300 Pagan idols that were in Mecca and the 12 Pagan Idols surrounding the Kaaba! It's as if Mohammad and Islam took the Pagan Hajj, Holy place (kaaba) and Idols and made it there own!
Christianity is false its basically based on worshiping a Jewish man god its false
@@generaljg4373 Allah has body parts. He is a misformed man.
Allah moved from Petra to Mecca so he can't be the Almighty, Omnipresent God.
@@joseywales3789 360 idols = 1 for every day of the year
True. We are blessed children of God
I am so glad I never had to face anywhere to pray... I just enter my room and call on the name of the Lord Jesus.
Christianity is based on pagan sacrifice rituals its false for sure
@@generaljg4373 Praying to a stone box is pagan.
Kissing a Stone Vagina [fertility god] for removing sin is pagan.
@@generaljg4373 Give me proof that the Passover is pagan. Every Jew will laugh at you.
Allah is the best of the deceivers.
@@generaljg4373 Over 1400 years you Muslims have prayed to Allah in a Stone Cupboard. Once a year you all walk around this Stone Cupboard. When is Allah going to wake up from his long sleep?
Go read about the priests of Allah [Baal] in 1Kings18. Nobody could wake him up.
@@generaljg4373 why are Muslims praying and bowing down to a stone in kabba.
Mr. Gibson! So nice to see you.
Greetings from the Pilgrim of Bordeaux,
If we are wise, we direct our prayers - up ☝🙏👆🙏👍 , heavenward.
Jesus is coming back down, hallelujah!
Shalom brother alfadi and Mr Dan
God bless you brother in Christ. Love watching your videos ❤️
God hate al fasi Lol imagine believing god is a man on a cross hallelujah Lol
@@generaljg4373 You think that all Bible believers are Catholic. Imagine if all Muslims were Suffi.
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon majority Christian believe jesus is god son and father , christianity is false
@@generaljg4373 Explain: Isaiah 48v12,16; Ex3v14; Rev1v8,11. The Messenger of Yehovah is Yehovah the Son, the Redeemer, the First and the Last.
@@bestKaffir.underTheSon many prophets called sons in the bible doesn't mean literally, the trinity is from satan
There are questions that Mel raised about what sources Dan used to come to certain minor conclusions. It would be good if Al Fadi could ask Dan to clear up which sources he used to come to the conclusions that Mel does not understand.
We appreciate the work of both Dan and Mel. There are just a couple of these questions that could make us yet more certain of what they are saying.
It’s always fascinating to see Dan and his ongoing research.
It's interesting, why did it get so jumbled up. The Jews are not confused about Jerusalem, and for Christians both the birthplace and place of ministry of Jesus are not in question. Was there a political or ideological struggle or ideological shift going on between different internal camps of early proto Islam doctrine which are now lost because of manuscript burning or changes.
It would be interesting to get some more details about the political background of the parallel qibla
Thing is, if the proto-Muslims were monotheist Christians, where are the mosques predating the 6th Century built by these proto-Muslims? Why do they turn up only post AH?
Exactly
Our God is even under the sea. His great.
There's a theory that the Cordoba mosque's qibla orientation is the direction to Mecca from Damascus, where the dynasty came from. Please ask Dan Gibson about that.
If that true then the entire dynasty would get Torn to pieces by the ulamas
When you pray you face God, and God is everywhere. You do not need to recite from a book, because God writes His commandments on the tablet of your heart, and you do not need to shed blood because His His Own Son, the second person 9f the trinity shed His blood for you while ensuring the violence of the Cross. God is not the forgiving, the merciful, the just
Our God is the God of pure sacrificial love of the cross
Did you know that a Muslim must not defecate or urinate facing or backing to the Qibla? This could get very confusing.
If you are on the opposite side of the globe you will defecate towards the Kaaba by sheer gravity 😱
One criticism for Mr. Gibson: even though you do not have the resource to research all mosques from all historical periods, nevertheless, you should still note down the information in an appendix database for cases such as the Ottoman Mosque which faced Petra, since this appendix can be used to test your theory and critique the information which you are arbitrarily including in your main database based on your first 3 centuries criterion.
It's as if Islam thinks that Mecca will intercede for their prayers. A bit like the 3 crane goddesses.
That's a wild imagination. Jews pray towards Jerusalem, it doesn't mean anything is interceding. It just means God has assigned a holy place on Earth.
@@SzTz100 maybe I should have said Kaaba, as the Standard Islamic Narrative says that if you kiss the stone it will take away your sins. This is intercession for sins and why the stone is said to have turned black.
@@ishtarlew598 I agree with you, I don't know the origin or meaning of that stone.
@@SzTz100 Moslems want to say that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, but there is Zero evidence that they ever went to Mecca.
@@ishtarlew598 I'm a Muslim, and I started doing research about the history of Islam. I'm calling time-out until I get to the bottom of this. Enquiries and research continuing.
Guru. Nanak at Kabb said ""show me a direction in which your Allah is not there and I will point my foot on that direction where Allah is not "
Hi.no reference,but i heard that Guru Nanak was at Kaaba complex and pointed his feet toward the kaaba(i assume while sitting).He was told not to point his feet in that direction.He moved his feet,and Kaaba was still facing his feet.also they wore blue and not white sheets.😅
Hajj rituals, prayers to the black stone:
MUSLIMS READ THIS PRAYER IN FRONT OF THE ASWAD STONE
I fulfill Your call, O Allah, I fulfill Your call, You have no partner. I fulfill Your call. Verily all praise and favors and the kingdom is for You alone, You have no partner.
(From afar Muslims pray 5x/day towards the black stone on the Kaaba of Mecca).
Dan Gibson is right, direction of prayer follow the black stone. Muslim worship black stone as their ALLOH SWT.
observant Muslims around the world face toward the Kaaba
during their five times daily prayer...
Too much rituals in islam. It pagans.
NO DOUBT 100%ISLAM FAKE RELIGION
@@ankur7773 Trillion times ...Christianity is Christupid religion..
Fake 😈😈😈
@@aldredtawasil9339 may God open ur eyes to see the truth
Old testament is full of rituals and is from God.
What make Islam satanic is the message from its messenger. Mohammed is the only one who knows if he saw a demon in cave or if he made up that jibril story.
Listening to stories coming from the Koran and hadiths I know for sure Allah cannot be the same as the God of Abraham.
A Prophet wants to kill himself because he doesn't know if what squeezed him in a cave was from God until a pagan woman Kadidja convices him lol. So funny and sad
@@aldredtawasil9339 no my friend we don't kiss a black stone and fight with our own religious people to kiss that stone. So according to muslims the black stone was white. So a stone which itself could not preserve it from corruption how in this world he will decide my fate.
06:44 - Sorry, when was the founding of Iz.lam?
That's the key question.
Traditionally in 622ad. This is also the time when we seem to start mosque type buildings...
@@hans471 where are mosque type buildings reliably dated to 622ad?
@@hans471 Is there any reliable evidence that Islam began in 622? The evidence was the product of a 100 year embryonic process with Islam emerging from the womb of fertile imaginations in the 720s.
@@MrDrbld you have mosque buildings in Medina etc. For the dating you have to rely on archeological style of the buildings as well as texts which give a date etc. Of those mosques...
Romans 10:9-10 (KJV)
9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
The Koran is very clear about the qibla direction it is The sacred mosque in Mecca. It is just a direction to face that Allah (God) prescribed to Muslims. In the beginning it was Jerusalem. It is does not mean that Allah resides in Mecca or Jerusalem or Petra or anywhere as some comments are falsely trying to suggest. Allah is omnipresent.
Show me the word Mecca in that ARABIC verse and I’ll make sure to revise my opinion! Until then please stop your delusional nonsense and admit that Mecca wasn’t there in that verse!
I'm not trying to make you change your opinion but I'm giving other viewer my opinion and the opinion of most Muslims on this matter and let them decide for themselves@@CIRAInternational
Allah is inside the kabbah and not omnipresent that's why.
lol, nope.
If you follow Quran and Hadith Allah never enters his Creation but uses "Agents" to interfear with it.
This is why Jibril brings the Quran to Mohammed but becomes more clear if you read the Quran when Miriam receives the news about her pregnancy: an unnamed spirit transmits the word of Allah.
And about the Kaaba: it is important for another reason most people already know but don't unerstand.
@@slippingsnake why did Mohd kiss the black stone ? Mohd said touching the black stone will forgive your sins. This is a pagan practice, and Mohd was pagan.
@@umerdeen5340 nice change of topic!
The black Stone is not even there, these are Splinters in a compound.
Black Stone does not appear in the Quran, I remember at least 1 Hadith where Abu Bakr admits it is only a stone but kisses it anyway because Mohamme did it.
"...touching the black stone will forgive your sins..."
This clearly contradicts the quranic Message that only Allah can forgive sins so the realy important question here is why islamic scholars accepted Hadith to confirm this?
This is important because it undermines the whole concept of scriptures and Ishnad (chain of Narration) that Islam is build upon.
If a scholar claims that only Allah can forgive Sins but also confirms black stone kissing as a Bypass he creates a Contradiction for a central Issue of Islam; either throw out the Quran or the Hadith as an unrelible source.
@Rishal Charles mate, what has you comment to do with what I wrote?
If anything it proofs that you are biased and maybe not the brightest bulb in the box.
ALLAH GIBRIL FAKE I D OF MOHAMMAD😉
1.8 billion and growing. Your so determined to halt the message. But this is Allah's msg. It cannot be stopped, slowed or retracted by anyone. Absolutely no one
Just wondering. Why they follow the call for prayer like the Jews call for prayer too, yet they hated the Jews.
Muslims protected Jews for 800 years in Spain. I'd hardly call that hate.
نعم اينما تولوا فثم وجہ اللہ
Alloh hu tofuu
I would argue:
If Allah is ever present; ever powerful; etc...
Then why must Muslims pray to the East (Mecca)?
If Allah is everywhere, then why does a Muslim need to pray to the east?
One can "face Allah" from the East, West, North, South, NE, SW, NW, NE and still pray to Allah.
God = omnipresent;Omniscient;omnipotent - Thus, one does not need to put one's self in a specific direction to pray.
Thus, (logically) one could argue (easily) that Allah (Muslim) [not =] the same god as God of Judaism and Christianity (of which both Religions do not recognize a specific direction of prayer.
If this is true, then one logically must state (that Islam is not the same God as Judaism and Christianity). One must also argue that Islam is not a true monotheistic Religion (on the same lines of Judaism and Christianity).
Direction doesn’t matter to demons… 🤣
With thte Kaaba it does.
The demon committed blasphemy on the cross hallelujah 😂
@@generaljg4373 The demon disguised as Gabriel.
Comment for the algo 😍! Do not waste another day - P r o m o s m !!
BRO.. CAN U PLS REVEAL FROM THEY islam got that b4prayer they need to wash legs n heads ears... N wasting water just to wash out side... BUT NOT THE HEARTS N SIN 💦😂👀💯🇲🇾😅👀 AMEN🙏✅😇
when the times of namaz ( prayer) comes, it is good practice, after
the tradition of prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) , to say the prayer call
( Adhan) ,the caller stands facing the Qiblah ( the direction of the
Ka' aba at Mecca).
*☪️FALSE AND HOLLOW RELIGION☪️*
Too bad all muslims prays toward wrong directions.
@@AndiWidjaja so ?
Why has there been different directions, a great number Not directed to Mecca? Ignorance or not knowing direction Is Ridicules AND YOU KNOW THAT. Deal with the reality that there ARE A MULITITUED OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. We know it. You know it. Deal with it.
@@aldredtawasil9339 so al lah is lonely. 🤭
Alfadis mind has got punctured uniformity of position is an essential part of prayer to maintain discipline otherwise hapazard position leads to indiscipline in prayer alfadi is under impression that one can pray to almighty even under influence of intoxication
Sir, here the discussion is about direction of Prayer .. You can call on the God anytime anywhere as he is everywhere. It's quite sad to you all put God in a box. I would pray that you would call on the name of the Lord Jesus in whatever situation/circumstance or direction you are and he will surely answer you. Please try and will not be disappointed. God bless!
What!!!!
@@Lavender-blue80 that means alfadi is about to become mad due to overthinking on subjects which give him name fame and shame also
@@sultanahamed2484 I have to say that I think your remark makes as much sense as does the Quran. Why didn’t you spell it out in simple language in the first place.
@@Lavender-blue80 why do u quote quoran with which u have no connection quoran addresses the people who believe in it only sir
Mmm so why do Jews face Jerusalem?.
But christians should also face Jersusalem because Jesus was a Jew.
But Jews hate Jesus
Allah knows his house better than your nonsense imagination,
he continues to win, despite many naysayers. ALLAH AKBAR
An argumentum ad hominem is not an argument.
How do you know he continues to win, when there are so thousands are leaving the cult