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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2019
- Could this be my best buy for 2019 ? It's also cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.
6pcs M3-M8 Tap Drill Set T Handle Ratchet -- bit.ly/304T3By
This video includes the review of a donated product.
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That idea on the little tap wrench is great. That makes it so much more stable and controllable with the handle fixed. Another good one from Rob! Thank you.
I got a similar set a couple of months ago and i like your idea to centre the handle. Using only the point on a centre drill is far better than using it to the second chamfer as its 120° and fits the normal drill perfectly, if you go to the next chanfer its 90° and the drill can start cutting off centre. A dimple in the bolt you put in will help to alighn it if using the lathe or drill press. and also fileing a small flat on the crossbar will hold better.
Hi Rob. When you said how much the set cost I thought, no that can't be right, that's less than 3 quid in our money but it is! Amazing value. Thanks for posting this. Cheers, Alan.
Hey Rob, I'm not a big fan of these Banggood reviews, but in your case, you are one of the best sales pitches i've come across, I seem to order all the stuff you endorse, and have been happily satisfied with the good value, as I try to be frugal with a passion. Cheers and carry on with more of the same!, thanks.
Thanks. I hate to see money wasted. So I am happy to review cheap items that nobody much else would consider worthwhile doing. Some of this stuff is surprisingly good. Cheers Rob
@@Xynudu Yeah if I reviewed how much I had already spent there, it might be a real eye opener. My son in law keeps me abreast of different products they offer and they are a great source for many things besides tooling.
They have for one thing, gotten me hooked on carbide insert tools, I hardly seem to reach for HSS except, that I haven't sprung for a threading tool yet ,ha-ha! Cheers and carry on mate!
I am spoiled rotten for taps. In the workshop of my employer, it is considered it too risky to use a tap more than a few times. Thus, there's an abundance of lightly used top notch Sutton taps available for whoever wants them, and surprisingly there aren't many people who want them.
Amazing. You are the lucky one. Cheers Rob
Rob, thanks for the video and review. I think I may give this a try for some of my 3D printed projects and light projects.
Hi Ron, It certainly is a cheap little set. It goes well with the boxed mixed Allen head bolt sets BG sell in small sizes. The stainless steel M4 bolt was out of one of them. Really great for model making and well made. Cheers Rob
Love your channel Rob, just bought a set.
Thanks Ned. I try to not over do the reviews, as they are just a side issue of the DIY aspect, but this looked interesting. The "Ratchet" bit had me intrigued. Turned out to be more of the same bad product write ups that we have come to expect from BG. Still pretty good for potato chip money. Cheers Rob
Nice Enjoyable Video Rob ! Thanks for the Review and Tips . Cheers to You Rob ! I like That Saying .
G’day Rob good review on them I’ve used them and found them fine for most applications. Your right about the “T” type chucks I found you can’t get enough tightening pressure on them and the tap works loose, I tighten them up using a pair of pliers around the knurled bit. Good to see you again Rob kind regards John
Hi John, The small cheapy "T" holders are not ideal, but will do the job (just). At least this one has more meat than most you get. You can't beat the wedge type tap holder I used in the video. Glad to hear the taps held up OK. Cheers Rob
One of my oldest tap/die sets was from Japan - that was BA I think. Some of the real old imports were quite adequate for occasional use.
This set was certainly amazing value!
Hi Chris, Funny you should mention BA. I have a small box of some I bought at a sale somewhere/some time and have never used them. I don't have any BA bolts anyway, so I guess I never will ;) But then again, you just never ever know. One day. Cheers Rob
Go to Canadian Tire, for $75.00 you get a set with 350 taps, dies , tools, titanium coated.
This is a nice and honest review, starting when you said, "this is not a ratchet set" which means the product name is not what the seller claims.
It is my suspicion that Bang Good sells a lot of stuff that does not meet quality control. I guess it makes more sense to sell the stuff for cheap than recycle flawed products, in the end recycling tries the finished stuff like low quality raw materials and that destroys the money invested in production while requires more money to recover the raw materials (particularly for complex products). That being said, it is clear to me why sometimes people get garbage and others fairly well made stuff and thus the mixed reviews.
I guess that given the level of success you have had it is probable that most products sent for review are picked from their stock and thus tend to be of fairly good quality. Nonetheless I also think that sometimes people expect that cheap products should perform like top quality ones, so purchases based on reviews and personal experience can have completely opposite results. I would recommend to lower expectations a bit and do not ask beyond what you get for the price.
Thanks for the review .
Hi Reinier. Fair comment. Cheers Rob
quality control in PRC is a paying option. you want cheap? you don't pay for QC and the manufacturer either ships everything to you, including duds, or they resell what they cannot send you, usually the worst or overruns, to local suppliers for independent resellers selling through Banggood, Wish, Aliexpress, etc. 😑
if you want quality, you either pay for the level of QC you want. also you better have someone you trust on site for every single production run unless you work with a known tier-one or two manufacturer. most cheap arse chinese manufacturers have not a microgram of pride in what they make. caveat emptor is the name of the game.
thankyou Rob, enjoy your vids. thanks for the tip.
Hi Steve, Internet prices just keep getting cheaper on tooling. I only ever buy from the tool shop if I need the item right NOW. They have a lot of overheads for sure, but the mark up they put on is massive. Just shows what they make on this stuff. Anything less than 100% and I doubt they would even stock it, same as supermarkets. Cheers Rob
Rob,
When you started that small tap it wobbled around like a salami in a shirt sleeve. Because of you I've ordered two of these sets. If they're no good I'm gonna come around and tell your wife how much you spend on stuff for your shed!
Steve of no "willpower "!
They seem good to me Steve. You've got to remember it's very cheap salami ;)
Cheers Rob
Hello Rob,nice video Rob. thank you for sharing.........( i have the same set.)
You certainly do get a lot of different things from Banggood. Enjoyed the video.
Hi Harold. Some of the really cheap stuff can be more interesting than the expensive stuff. Everyone likes a bargain. Cheers Rob
G’day Rob, no your not gonna suck me in again, BTW the scriber works a treat. I didn’t know the holder has smaller jaws up inside, I’ve always searched for my smaller handle, must check the bigger one, thanks for that.
Cheers
Peter
Hi Peter, the holder is slit in four places for the collet compression and the small taps just use the centre drill hole for that. Cheers Rob
Thanks for the heads up. I ordered two sets for about the price I would have to pay for 2 or 3 metric course taps at my local supplier. In the UK it is normally considered best to have three taps: 1st, 2nd & plug but I have not found it makes that much differences on the stuff I do. Sometimes I have to use metric fine and I guard those taps and dies as they hurt the wallet more. I broke a m4 coarse tap recently by using a blunt tapping drill, work hardening the m8 stainless steel bolt I was going to tap down the head with m4 and then snapping the tap. Wondered if I might recover by heating the bolt up, but was too busy so just got another. The scriber and cut off steel you highlighted a while back came and are good as you showed. Thanks for sharing!
You can anneal the work hardened bolt, but that will also destroy the hardness factor. So it's best not to do that, as re-tempering is bound to be unreliable and often prone to impact failure. That's why avoiding work hardening in the first place is the best practice by far. Do it as shown in the video and you will have no problem. Cheers Rob
@@Xynudu The Banggood taps I ordered on the 30th arrived today (UK), 7th of September. Very good service by China post. A needed positive spot on a hard, miserable day when I had to have my 15 year old terrier that I had from 6 weeks, put to sleep due to heart disease and non response to meds which the vet thought was likely lung cancer.
Sorry to hear that. It did well for a terrier life span. I had my 18 year old black kelpie put down a couple of years back as he was terminally ill. It's sad but you have to do the right thing by the animal. I worked it out we had walked over 9 thousand kilometers over the years. Nothing is forever. All you can do is enjoy life and have a positive attitude. Cheers Rob.
Nice little mod. Rob. Maybe I'm not as fastidious as you but I have a half dozen or so 'T' Tap holders with that annoying sliding cross-bar. Simple fix? roll a tight fitting 'O-Ring' on either side and 'Bob's your uncle' - Tight fitting, adjustable and requires no tools to change it's position. Maybe I'm just a cheaper 'cheapskate' than you eh?
Good idea John. Yes, I don't like the sliding cross bar. That larger P&N one is fixed. Cheers Rob
Hi Rob. I recognised the printer shaft before you said what it was! I have a few of those in my metalwork stash. Amazing that you can get a decent tap set for $5 - totally amazing. It would cost me more in stamps and envelopes to send an empty envelope to China, I think. What do you recommend for power tapping? I've seen some with a chamfered lead in ('machine taps') which push the cuttings through the hole, and some with a spiral clearance which you mentioned - they pull the cuttings back out the hole like a twist drill does. Any opinion on which of those are right for power tapping on the lathe (and/or mill). Cheers, Craig
Hi Craig, I'm not a great fan of power tapping, so I'm not the right person to speak to. A broken tap is a thing to ruin your day and power tapping just ups the ante IMHO. So it's not for me. Can't help you with this one. Spiral taps are used extensively by industry and from all accounts were designed for machine operation. So they are probably your best bet. Cheers Rob.
nice review. I decided to order an identical "looking" set from ali express figuring it would be decent enough. The machining on the threads on all except the m8 was terrible. I should have just used the link you provided on the banggood set. The threads on the taps had sections where the thread wasn't even fully cut. Hopefully the quality of those from banggood is still good though. See ya.
Hi Chad, lots of stuff looks the same, but if it's cheaper it's usually for a reason. Cheers Rob
Ordered. I've got a nice set of metric dies, but I'm missing the taps. $3.39 US for five taps. You're the best Banggood salesman ever.
Ha Ha. I thought it was a pretty good deal. The sizes are very handy. Cheers Rob
He who dies with the most tools, wins!
Thank's for sharing this video Rob. It was very strange listing to you talk, without the dove's in the background. Where's my dove's. ;->) LOL. NEWS FLASH: Australian Doves walk the picket line, for more face time on TH-cam creator's channel, Pictures @ 11:00 O'clock.
Hi Dave, I hadn't actually thought about the doves lately. I think it's been too cold for them to get in to full song. They are still around, begging for a hand out, but the noise level is way low. I would probably miss them if they were to disappear, but not too much ;) Some days they really are a test of patience. Cheers Rob
I have no luck getting stuff like this straight and would prefer putting a pit in the back for a tap follower and tap a retaining screw in the side.
Rob not all carbon taps are black, i have a set of UK made Presto BA thread taps that are carbon steel & they look the same as the ones you are reviewing even down to the color & surface finish. I also have a set of German taps but they have them made in China & also look in appearance to the ones you are reviewing, these are also carbon steel. All of my other tap sets are UK or US made HSS taps & you can certainly tell the difference in appearance to the carbon taps, even more so when you test the performance of the carbon v the Hss. I know Banggood do sell HSS taps & they highlight that in the specs on those taps & are more expensive. But still cheap in comparison to UK or US made HSS taps.
Yes, I realise that and stated that the ones I have were shiny under the final finish. Thanks for expanding on that. HSS comes in many grades and I suspect these are probably on the low end, but the one I tried seemed to cut fine and make a clean thread of the correct size. It also showed a bit of flex, which my two carbon sets don't. They snap as their first warning ;)
The two BG taps I bought previously are marked HSS. These ones are not. But that isn't a true indicator as some of my taps from brand names aren't marked either.
Anyway, at the end of the day this set seems like it will do the job for most light use. Can't expect too much for potato chip money.
Cheers Rob
There good in tight places
The ratchet ones work on the same principle as ratchet / locking/ reversible screwdrivers.
Hi Peter, I have never seen one in this configuration, particularly this size, but that dosen't mean they don't exist. It had me a bit intrigued. Cheers Rob
P.s. forgot to say I like your videos👍
@@Xynudu I have 2 ratchet tap holders in this T configuration, one is small from 1.4mm to 5 and the other one is 4 to 12 i think, both made by Bahco good but not cheap, 20€ each about 32$AU and came without taps but they are a delight to work with.
Hi Derek, I followed up on the Bahco ratchet thread tap chuck you mentioned and yes they do exist and yes they are expensive (I have never seen these before). I then did some more searching and found that Banggood actually sell an almost exact copy by Drillpro for very low cost. So I have requested a sample to follow up on this subject. We will see what eventuates. It should be interesting. Cheers Rob
search ebay rob-----M3-8 M5-12 Reversible T Bar Handle Ratchet Wrench Holder for Thread Tap-------very handy for tight places.hope this is classified a bargain,lol
Hi Geoffrey, I see Banggood actually have a reversible T bar holder set similar to one made by Bahco. So I've asked for a sample to review. I''ve never seen them before. Just shows you're always learning. Cheers Rob
@@Xynudu sample,o-ya thats a bargain.go for the two sizes.
Will do.