Effects of Too Much Torque on Wire Wheels! This is a Safety Issue!
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- Wire wheels require care and upkeep, from proper cleaning to avoid rust + discoloration, to driving smoothly. Applying too much torque -- by doing burnouts, for example.
Too much torque will loosen the spokes and throw off the tire balance, also causing a safety hazard.
For best results on wire wheels, roll at a slow tempo. Keep your wheels clean, and keep your car garaged when you're not driving.
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This is the exact problem on the lowrider that I don't own
sounds about right is why im here too
Yep. Had that exact problem on my delta 88 that I never had and just made up.
Tsshh... you need to sell that lowrider and get the Lamborghini I pretend I have while driving a Subaru. The thrill can't be beat.
@@sammymontego2217 sounds pretty sweet! You must be on some good drugs. What kind? I drive an F150 from the 90s so my drugs are mostly antidepressants
@@danmanthe9335 lmmfao I'm on the same antidepressants while pimpin around in my 1998 dodge ram ballin ain't easy bro
All these years and I didn't know those wire wheel spokes could be tightened like a bike or motorcycle wheel. Good stuff, taught me something new.
But, ugh, why wouldn’t they be? Lol. Why did you think car wheels would be different from motorcycle wheels?
@@jamesbizs Just figured they were welded to rim and center.
@@fjb666 makes sense to me
I was surprised too. I rarely see these car wheels, mainly on low-riders that bounce. But I always thought they were one piece. I didn't know they were like bicycle & motorcycle wire wheels.
...Do these car wheels use tubes too?
Now that I think about it, it makes sense.
Dirtbikes, Dualsports, and Adventure motorcycles use wire spoke wheels, because if they hit something hard enough offroad, a cast wheel would crack or be too bent to hold air.
Wire spoke wheels are stronger, and if they do break, you just have to replace the rim or broken spokes, and rebuild the wheel, instead of buying a whole new wheel.
I understand now why bouncing low-riders use wire wheels. Its not just a style, its actually to survive those bounces.
Can we see more short videos like this and less tiktok garbage? Pleaseee
Yes! We're workin on it!
@@RollingStock you earned a sub! Screw it drink and cookies too!
@@foxbasher7435 im down with that... Drinking& smoking lol
Why would youtube start promoting original content over stolen tiktok garbage? That just wouldn't make any sense.
@@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe shorts are popular now on youtube. Also isnt tiktick (i hate that name eughh) for kids? And young hoses
Rolling Stock is Legendary
I don't have wire wheels but love the short quick and to-the-point format of this video.
Would love to see more auto education videos like this.
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You will love Scotty Kilmer
@@Cam-dn9ed Cool thanks bud...! 😎👍🏼
@@YusufGinnah it's cool, for learning more about what ownership of specific tuner cars are like, Fitment Industries' "So you want..." series do good overviews on the goods and bads of ownership of different tuner cars
@@Cam-dn9ed Yeah, love car DIY stuff so will defo check that out.
I like watching Donut Media
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@@YusufGinnah some of their stuff is alright, but they are too goofy for me. Engineering Explained does good stuff, too
That wheel and tire combo look beautiful together. I don't want to see it get dirty at all. Perfect combo
🤔🤔😏 wrowing up in the barrio I never knew why low riders cars meant to be driven so slow. Now I got it
That is exactly what I took from this video!!
Must be a good shop to have an 18,000 dollar balancer! Great video!
Road force baby
I got a set of 15x7s that just won't quit. I had em 20 yrs burn rubber and all. No telling what the 2 previous owners was doing on em. But at least I know where they came from. I think they 93 or 94 rims.
AH!!!! That's the problem then, with my Camry
Nope, problem is you own a camary...
The wire wheels that I had were welded inside and out with no adjustment, so I'm glad that they didn't come loose or that would be a catastrophe.
Who cares if its balanced or loose , as long as it bounces.
if you dont fix the problem its gonna get worse and worse and eventually come apart and thats not gonna be a fun day
Please tell me you're joking lol
You gonna bounce into something you don’t want to LOL
That’s prob how those got fucked up 😂
@@Maree_Customs - He’s talking about hydraulics. Clearly you aren’t from SoCal to know the culture.
Yes appreciate it i 80 rollers. Much love
“Yeah hey Mario lemme get a large double olive, double...”
I'll never be able to A) afford to or B) live in an area that is lowrider friendly, but this was still super cool to learn
I had a set of 15 inch Dayton's and no car to put them on. They sat in my room for 4 years. I sold them the somebody that did the exact same thing
You sold them to somebody who had them sitting on their rooms for 4 years? 😂 Kidding.
@@AxellSlade 🤣🤣
@@AxellSlade Thats exactly what hes saying…. 🤷♂️
He sold his wheels that he didnt have a car to use them on, to someone else who didnt have a car to put the wheels on. I imagine they sat in a room.
@@mjriemen And that's exactly what I understood. I thought he was kidding, that's it.
Edit for typo.
And then I bought them and they're still sitting.
Gotta adjust em. Brings me back to my bmx days
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Much love from LA to the Bay ✊🏾
Can't go wrong with Vogues !
Question: Do you guys ever come across 13 inch Vogues ?
:)✊ We don't come across 13" Vogues, BUT we CAN have a tire custom made to look like one
@@RollingStock
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
Oh ok. Fa sho. Yea, there's a spot out here in LA I get my red walls made who do the Vogue look-a-likes as well. Thanks ✊🏾
Cains wheels gon be like this on that 5.0
Nigga cainnnn
“Mf I said WITH cheese...!”
Naw man, Cain was on some roadsters calling em Dayton's.
I’m just happy he called them “wheels”… instead of rims.
Indeed, a rim is a part of the wheel and most high performance wheels are multipiece and you can order a different offset rim for your wheels, or replace damaged ones alot cheaper then buying a new set of wheels
wow thanks for my future plans and now doing something absolutely stupid what I was thinking would have been well pretty moronic BTW truth not sarcasm you guys just prevented a darwin award
What's really funny is your supposed to true and tighten a spoked wheel every time you change the tire... Harley tech.. it's not hard and takes a few seconds to go over most
*you’re, not your.
You're*
@@jumpinjojo why does internet grammar even matter? Like seriously the dude isn’t writing a letter to the president or trying to get a scholarship
@@ExtremeRugburn I was a teacher for many years in NYC and “internet grammar” was not part of the curriculum. I get the feeling you’re making it up. There’s only proper grammar. Nothing else.
@@jumpinjojo I get there is no such thing as internet grammar but I just don’t understand why people have to point out improper grammar when that’s irrelevant to the dudes comment.
To all ya youngsters pay attention and learn about Dayton's since you think you know everything you don't. Us ole school folks know.
Then you should know that those aren’t Dayton’s.
They vogues
@@milesbigelow4775 the tires are
Daytons are for puds... Actually all wire wheels are for puds... And how they put them on the cars is a joke too... That is why only puds run wires...
@@shanebogenreif2789 You sound jealous.
That’s such a nice wheel. I wish I can get a hold of a set like that.
Nice L that make the exact on them & covers spinner as well
Damn...I would have never figured that would be an issue. I had plenty of bicycle spoke issues though.
You can make a bad ass coffee table out of spoke wheels, check out the episode on Storage Wars her name is Mary Padian.
No thank you
From San Francisco!!!!!🙌🏼
Makes sense why I never sew a lowrider doing anything crazy on Daytons. Strictly for show
Been blowing the tires off my spokes for decades
Same thing happened to the wheels on my 77 Honda 750. Never checked them on my Yamaha 250&350s ever.
Same exact tire balancing machine at my Chevy dealership in NY haha
I have those on my 85 El Dorado
Can I fit 33's on it with just a leveling kit?
“Let me also show you how these extremely expensive wheels will cost you even more money in the future”
Now that's where you're wrong.. the spokes can be tightened. Then reseal the wheel. Just as a 3 piece wheel pays for itself down the line. If something was to happen to a 3 piece wheel, you can replace the barrel. Or even change them out, just because. Where with a cast wheel, if something happens to it, you more than likely will have to replace the whole wheel if you can still get that type of wheel..
@@nonameisthename138 What's going to happen to my one piece wheels though?
Nothing, unless I crash the car.
@@stevenkelby2169
Lol, yeah or you can hit a big ass POT HOLE and they don't make those wheels no more! 🤷♂️🤦♂️
And they are hideous
@@nonameisthename138 or they don't make parts for your overpriced spoked or 3 piece wheels no more?
I'm obsessed with that tire
Mayo & mustard
Wires ain’t ment for torque they were made for cruising let’s get it right 💯💯
That's right!
Hey brotha would like to know which adapter you’re using for your roadforce. I have a few people wanting to balance their 13’s and make it work most of the time but takes a few times to get her centered
Ridin' on Vogues! What!? 👍
Great video
OMG!!! learn something new everyday.
Just like a dirt bike, or anything with spokes. Check them often, and use the proper spoke torque wrench. This guy is right, and would treat you right. How could you not trust that face.
Super easy tighten all the spokes EVENLY and you'll be good👍
Laced with the spokes all straight out like that it's no wonder they fail from to torque. But I guess the way they're made there's no changing that really. If you look at a motorcycle wheel you'll notice that the spokes don't go straight out
This right here. The radial spoke lacing is known to be weak against driving and braking forces. Thats probably why its got what looks like 100 spokes lmao.
@@jimmyhopkins9497 yeah, the conventionally laced wheels have the spokes always in tension. That radial lacing has bending moment, tension, maybe even some compression, forces going every which way, it's just asking for failure it's unless it's on a rolling only wheel. I'm guessing it's cheaper to manufacture or something
Classic Form over function in the car mod world. Like so many who put a “cold air” intake in a open engine compartment. Looks cool but you’ll lose power and torque.
Radial lacing is used on some BMX flatland wheels. I like the look on cars too. Good PSA here. True your wheels:)
I think if I recall and nobody minds a little rambling, maybe some 80s BMX bike kids will pipe up about it and help me out here.
The pro guys used to radial lace the back wheel.
Something about the radial lace being able to move easier from a dead stop or something, they had some kinda advantage in that situation.
I recall a big to do about it, and we did party hard back turn so that's why I only remember bits and pieces 😆
@@MrTheHillfolk hehe I’m a 90s kid but I remember that :) I doubt any pros use radial lacing now because the stunts they pull are INSANE now! Exceptions being flatlanders but that is a deep underground subculture compared to park, vert and big ramp riders.
We ran poly wheels on Hi-ten framed bikes...we were Tough!!
Well no shit these rims were made for Cruising not drag racing
I got a cutlass with a turbocharged 4.8 that makes around 550-600bhp. Is that enough power to be weary of spokes?
Yes. We would not recommend wire wheels on a car with that much horsepower
I thought you said The Rolling Sack, which would be just as cool.
I always go with steelies, more weight and better meshing with suspension because of the weight.
In the days of the horse and buggy, it was learned that when applying torque/breaking from the hub instead of the rims outside surfaces, it's better to cross the spokes to counteract these forces instead of running them radially, was this just done for looks or am I missing something?
Hi Cameron, Yes! Your correct--this radial style is just for looks :)
Is this an issue with 13 x 7 reverse wheels? never seen this happen before in my life with loose spokes at the hub.
Yes, it's very common for low riders/ wire wheels
Fun fact... Some cyclists remove spokes to allow the wheel to twist slightly under pedaling
The wheels do that anyway.
Check some slow motion of accelerating push bikes.
Everything twists
@@sebastiend.5335 Exactly mate. But there's pros and cons to have more or less spokes and it makes the pedalling effect change with the way the hub is transferring torque to the wheels
@@sebastiend.5335 And not all bike frames twist dramatically. Professional riders have their carbon fiber frames specifically made to their own riding style and weight so they can have more twist up top or down low
@@MaNNeRz91 It's all very cool indeed!
Can't the spokes be tightened and then the wheel re-sealed around the bases of the spokes?
How do you prevent this?
Wire wheels are will last best if you take it easy on them. Over time, doing a burnout will cause spokes to loosen
Anyone else click because they thought they saw Seth Rogen as a mechanic?
those are clean ngl
What's the torque on the spokes to tightem up on 22 inch
I mean 15x7’s unless they’re not on a big body are meant for going slow and cruising
The problem is that it is radial laced. It has to wind up a little to transfer torque from hub to rim or vice versa. It has to be laced with at least 1 or 2 cross. Look at a bicycle wheel. They’re usually 3 cross. You’ll never see a radial spoke rear wheel on a bicycle for this reason.
Can you repair Cragar Starwires when the back plate cracks or spokes loosen up?
JD, we're going to need to check your wheel out to give you a definitive answer. In general, that isn't a serviceable wire wheel. Are you anywhere near SF, CA?
@@RollingStock thanks, no
The best solution to keeping wire spoke wheels from loosening is to not get wire spoke wheels.
Ko if the rim crack how how do u fix it
“Which causing the wheel not able to balance” You don’t need to be Einstein to work on cars but this guy isn’t touching mine
How much does such a service cost cuz I've got one wheel thats in need of tightening?
Bring it to our shop! We can help with re-truing and sealing the wheel!
True’s & Voges w/ the brains
👍🤪🎱knocked out!
Welcome to the TH-cam algorithm
Mario my man you guys rock
Thanks Laguna Beach!
Are wire wheels on a motorcycle capable of the same thing? 9 years ago, I believe the wire wheels caused my bike to fishtale when I had to brake hard(foot first, hand second)which put me down doing 75. Bounced of a tanker truck into the tires on the ambulance. Have not rode since . Just curioue
Yes, that's possible! Sorry that happened to you!
@@RollingStock thanks!
Burnouts at the slideshow lol
Where was he located at if I heard it a 7 time it would have stuck
Got some old crager wheels rusty! Any help?
We would have to weigh out the pros and cons of replacement vs stripping. Call us to discuss
Thanks oochie
Homeboi strapped up I can see he got a blinky under his shirt or 2
Suga Free borrowed one of my dayton spokes
That's the reason why oldscool wire wheels have crossed spokes.
Spokes need to be tangentional in order to transmit torque within the wheel.
Straight spokes are just for show.
Basic mechanics.
How much is the price on the rims
So....bouncing up and down on them would probably not be good then?
Looks like a new tire was mounted without the wheel being inspected?
Stop buying cheap wheels get them Daytons
It's all about that base, no treble 😜
I'm surprised. His face says toothpick. His gut says he eats well. Meaning no disrespect, just a surprise.
Good information overall for the video
>San Francisco
I think he's a she, if you know what I mean.
Neat, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Is this guy hiding a tire under his shirt? Lol
I don’t have this problem on GTA.
Why would I have wire wheel inquiries,
3 piece all the way 👌
Some of these comments make me laugh KNOCK OFF been out for years
Is it the guy from knocked up ?
Hey I know that guy!!!!
You know you can trust this dude because he carries his own spare tire everywhere he goes
Yooo chilllll bro 😂🤣 Lol damnit man
San Francisco? I thought anything fun was banned over there let alone gas guzzling vehicles lol
That's actually terrifying
Gotta keep them Ds clean
Dam that looks good. Mustard/mayo
Those wheels are radial laced. Stupid design. Look at old school wheels with a cross laced pattern, they are much stronger.
If he's gonna talk safety, I'd like to know what width wheel he'd use for a 205 series tire.
About a 7" wide wheel
Bro I hate building and trueing 20in bmx wheels this must be the worst 😆
This man shaped like comedian DOBOY lol
Now those are rims!
Good thing that the car those wheels are going on probably never does above 20 kms
They call em dead man Dayton’s
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