This channels journey has been QUITE the roller coaster. Shop to shop in chi town, to Georgia shade trees, and now full tv quality episodes. Its been so cool to see the evolution toake place and see you press on no matter the struggle. Huge respect.
Your choice made complete sense to me from the start. Replicate the S13 and you not only get a better design than truck suspension, you unlock the massive S13 aftermarket too. Way easier than making *everything* from scratch. It's awesome!
I also had the thought of with this setup, you could also still revert it back to not having the angle kit if you just wanted to street drive it and didn't want the angle kit for some reason. This way gives you the freedom to do both whereas building your own chassis to give you the same thing as the angle kit would lock you into the angle kit unless you modified something.
Seems like the only benefit here is the S13 aftermarket, which to some extent probably has to have somewhat less than ideal solutions due to being a strut type suspension. For Motorsport applications a double wishbone setup is usually preferred. So in a way it seems like the S13 setup is a bit of a downgrade.
Honestly, those new top hats are way cooler than the old ones. I think it was a benefit that you had to remake them, cuz you killed it even harder the 2nd time!
Idea: would it be possible to just space out the fenders a few inches instead of flares? I love the "truck look" and flares might be really cool or it might kinda muddy the look. I've always thought it could be sick to space out fenders a few inches (or whatever makes the most sense) and fill in the gap with another oem fender, then maybe do vents over the tires for the high pressure area. You'd also get the open space in front of the door which I'd imagine would look awesome. I'd figure making some simple brackets for a few mounting points and mocking it up would give you a good idea of how that might look. If the lines could work out, I think that could be a really cool way to go about the front widebody. Not quite sure how the back would work on a truck bed though ha Stoked on the progress! Really dope build
If you wanted to go that route. The b2600s have wider fenders without the body lines around the wheel well and you can probably roll them out to fit the extra width
This may be a little late after you've already done the V2 strut mounts, but I'm wondering if you'd keep a lot more of the structural integrity if you cut the horizontal tube flush on both sides of the 2 vertical strut tubes, then make a U-shaped tube to connect the 2 ends of the vertical tubes that allowed for the bracket clearance. Then the cut ends of the horizontal tube could be coped and welded back onto the U. Just a thought for eliminating the need for the notches.
Using the 4x4 Mazda fenders and maybe a flare will get you there. The guys bag and bodying these trucks always ran the 4x4 fenders for steering room at full drop. While yours is much wider, there 4x4 fenders are about 2 inches wider than the 2wd ones you have on it. At least they look like 2wd fenders
Wild! I humbly recommend addling a layer of metal tubing across the outside of the tubing parts that got chopped, to add rigidity. Just some plug welds and weld along the edge will make it hefty.
I really need your views and Subs to start popping off again. Ging the quality of your videos and work do not go unnoticed. You’ve been my tried and true choice for car content. Also big shout out to the crew helping you out!
Caleb, I swear the quality of your videos are top notch. Every single one is cut perfectly, always finding fresh background music. Love watching your fabrication skills improve, it’s such an art and I’m always fascinated at watching you build from scratch. From growing up watching you play Forza in middle school, to working on my own car in college, it’s been so cool to see your channel grow into what it was now, and I always look forward to your video every week. Love you dude.🫶🏻
Watching the video and I noticed: Tie Rod offset : S13s came with 2 different racks, the notches in them for the tie rod locations were different. The offset rack spacers that you have are made for the other rack. Offset rack spacers should sit parallel to the ground. It looks like yours are slanted upwards. There are two solutions for this, one is to just notch the rack so they fit. or 2 is to ditch them entirely, and modify the subframe to push the rack forward 25mm. Super common thing to do in S chassis. Then you would just use a normal tie rod or check out Villians tie rods, they have built in spacers. Anyways, love this build, easily one of my favorites
@@_Gingium_ definitely ditch the rack offset spacers and modify the subframe to move the rack. Offset spacers are knows for stripping the threads on the rack.
those notched sections as long as they are welded well, can actually be stronger than the original tube. it does create a weird stress point but its probably well within the limits of the material. so i wouldnt worry too much. especially with the strut mount tying all of those tubes together
broooo the wide bulldog stance looks sooo f-ing radical like im cheesing and its not even my ish lol ... cant weight to see the outcome and you getting to drift it ...peace n love fam keep it rad stay safe and build on ... l8z bro
Did you check clearance of the tyres when the suspension is at min & max travel? Don't want a nasty surprise when going over some rumble strips on tracks.
Man, I love these videos. This channel has helped me so much. I'm building the first and only AWD K series first generation Honda Prelude and I have to build a tube chassis front end and I don't think I would be able to tackle it without seeing these in depth builds. Everything from building the suspension jig to the planning and the build process. This is grade A content!
I like the fact that your chopping up a truck instead of the cookie cutter 240. Personally I like drift trucks more then most drift cars. There’s just something about seeing a truck swing that’s amazing to watch but that’s just me.
hey, i hope you read this because it would be really helpful for you to get ahead of the L now before you kill your steering rack running those offset rack spacers. you should go ahead and order one of the many rack relocation kits and move the rack forward so you get better steering articulation and a proper tie rod angle whilst also putting less load on your not so common steering rack. or dont do any of that and do whatever you want. lol.
with a factory subframe youre gonna run into steering bind. wisefab sells a kit to correct it as well as pbm. you can also go with relocation bushings which helps by like 10mm at most.
damn gingnium came a long, long way since i watched him as a kid, when i was a kid he was playing forza horizon 2 and just starting to build out that blue "BrapBrap" plate miata, now this man owns his own shop and hes building all these crazy cars, this mazda drift truck, the fuckin 800 horsepower volvo, the mid engine eclipse, that's insane.
I love how far you have come from when I started watching you with the turbo miata your fabrication skills have come a long way nice work and keep it up
idk if you've ever taken the leap into trying to learn some actual CAD, but simplified programs like sketchup could have probably mocked up a tube frame front end pretty easily and you could learn the basics of sketchup in like an afternoon. Highly recommended if you don't want to take the plunge into solidworks and it may have been able to save you the grief.
I love your approach to this and the way you've shown us everything...thought process, success, failure, rework, all of it. At this point would you say maybe parts of the pickup points jig should have been made a bit heavier?
The quality and skill has only gone up crazy to see how far you've come The only thing I woulda changed is the paint color for the steering rack so you can see leaks much easier with black it's a lot harder silver or white would show it better
Instead of using flat plate to fill the notched section, you could have swaped the cut pieces left side piece to the right side & vice versa this way you will have concave infill with same thickness as the pipe , just something to think about next time
I recently bought a project car. I plan to K-swap a 1972 Datsun 510 wagon. I don’t have an engine yet but I bought the Datsun off my homegirls husband for cheap because she was making him get rid of it.
Love The Content keep up the good work would love to see the beauty at import face off in st louis Missouri this april there will be drifting and drag racing
Hey man, I'm stoked to have found your channel!! Awesome build so far!! Hey, what video management software do you use to compile your videos for TH-cam?
Your rack spacers on flipped side to side. It you really should look into relocating your rack forward and ditching the offset spacers. It will take stress off the rack making it last longer
Love the channel and the variety of cars you work on. I have a question about fusion360 which i think is what you use. When you take a digi picture of the item how do you get the scaling right ? meaning 1 to 1 if i take a pic at closer or futher away and then transfer that to the F360 would the one that is closer be a larger measurment then the one that is further away ? Thanks
This channels journey has been QUITE the roller coaster. Shop to shop in chi town, to Georgia shade trees, and now full tv quality episodes. Its been so cool to see the evolution toake place and see you press on no matter the struggle. Huge respect.
Your missing the years of forza content as a gaming channel prior... been here for it all!
@@TURBOMOOSE awesome. Heres a 🍪 for your lotalty.
@Travis Rake ill take a oatmeal raisin if you have any lol
@@TURBOMOOSE yessir been here since forza and ginger hair days
@@Poizdrc shit if youre giving away cookies to people who've been here from the actual start lemme get a snickerdoodle
Your choice made complete sense to me from the start. Replicate the S13 and you not only get a better design than truck suspension, you unlock the massive S13 aftermarket too. Way easier than making *everything* from scratch. It's awesome!
Yes exactly! The fact I was able to bolt on aftermarket S13 parts to my truck is so cool.
I also had the thought of with this setup, you could also still revert it back to not having the angle kit if you just wanted to street drive it and didn't want the angle kit for some reason. This way gives you the freedom to do both whereas building your own chassis to give you the same thing as the angle kit would lock you into the angle kit unless you modified something.
@@_Gingium_ time to trim those fenders! Looks great!
Seems like the only benefit here is the S13 aftermarket, which to some extent probably has to have somewhat less than ideal solutions due to being a strut type suspension. For Motorsport applications a double wishbone setup is usually preferred. So in a way it seems like the S13 setup is a bit of a downgrade.
Honestly, those new top hats are way cooler than the old ones. I think it was a benefit that you had to remake them, cuz you killed it even harder the 2nd time!
Idea: would it be possible to just space out the fenders a few inches instead of flares? I love the "truck look" and flares might be really cool or it might kinda muddy the look. I've always thought it could be sick to space out fenders a few inches (or whatever makes the most sense) and fill in the gap with another oem fender, then maybe do vents over the tires for the high pressure area. You'd also get the open space in front of the door which I'd imagine would look awesome. I'd figure making some simple brackets for a few mounting points and mocking it up would give you a good idea of how that might look. If the lines could work out, I think that could be a really cool way to go about the front widebody. Not quite sure how the back would work on a truck bed though ha
Stoked on the progress! Really dope build
Spaced out/ “stacked” front fenders is defo the way to go. Keeps that boxy truck look but still shows that it ain’t stock.
i just feel like box flares would be sick and an aggresive diffuser should look amazing but its just my taste
That is an INSANE amount of angle. I love it!
Just cant wait to see it slide!
If you wanted to go that route. The b2600s have wider fenders without the body lines around the wheel well and you can probably roll them out to fit the extra width
this thing just gets more and more batshit with every upload. can't wait for the tubs!
😃
So much work. You're an absolute madman.
This may be a little late after you've already done the V2 strut mounts, but I'm wondering if you'd keep a lot more of the structural integrity if you cut the horizontal tube flush on both sides of the 2 vertical strut tubes, then make a U-shaped tube to connect the 2 ends of the vertical tubes that allowed for the bracket clearance. Then the cut ends of the horizontal tube could be coped and welded back onto the U. Just a thought for eliminating the need for the notches.
with this angle kit you almost have a forklift.
the drift truck v2 will be insane.
keep it up
Using the 4x4 Mazda fenders and maybe a flare will get you there. The guys bag and bodying these trucks always ran the 4x4 fenders for steering room at full drop. While yours is much wider, there 4x4 fenders are about 2 inches wider than the 2wd ones you have on it. At least they look like 2wd fenders
Gingium!your videos are so awesome dude keep doing what you doing
ThNk you!
Wild!
I humbly recommend addling a layer of metal tubing across the outside of the tubing parts that got chopped, to add rigidity. Just some plug welds and weld along the edge will make it hefty.
Love the content but miss Molly too tho tbh would love to see more traction based (drift truck ) (circuit miata) (drag Volvo)
Molly content coming soon!
When the intro goes off, I think of that meme of the cat playing games getting flashed, without fail
One of my favourite car projects on TH-cam rn for sure! 👍
I really need your views and Subs to start popping off again. Ging the quality of your videos and work do not go unnoticed. You’ve been my tried and true choice for car content. Also big shout out to the crew helping you out!
Caleb, I swear the quality of your videos are top notch. Every single one is cut perfectly, always finding fresh background music. Love watching your fabrication skills improve, it’s such an art and I’m always fascinated at watching you build from scratch. From growing up watching you play Forza in middle school, to working on my own car in college, it’s been so cool to see your channel grow into what it was now, and I always look forward to your video every week. Love you dude.🫶🏻
I watch other car channels between gingium uploads, and it just makes me appreciate the quality of this channel even more. Love the content
Watching the video and I noticed:
Tie Rod offset : S13s came with 2 different racks, the notches in them for the tie rod locations were different. The offset rack spacers that you have are made for the other rack. Offset rack spacers should sit parallel to the ground. It looks like yours are slanted upwards.
There are two solutions for this, one is to just notch the rack so they fit. or 2 is to ditch them entirely, and modify the subframe to push the rack forward 25mm. Super common thing to do in S chassis. Then you would just use a normal tie rod or check out Villians tie rods, they have built in spacers.
Anyways, love this build, easily one of my favorites
Thanks for letting me know!
@@_Gingium_ definitely ditch the rack offset spacers and modify the subframe to move the rack. Offset spacers are knows for stripping the threads on the rack.
Now you just have to do a custom body kit. Then this thing will look sick.
Yes I do! Will probably just do flares are the beginning... but eventually will do a sick custom widebody.
@@_Gingium_ I look forward to it then 😀
@@_Gingium_ hit up Miura-san
those notched sections as long as they are welded well, can actually be stronger than the original tube. it does create a weird stress point but its probably well within the limits of the material. so i wouldnt worry too much. especially with the strut mount tying all of those tubes together
The editing with the music choise is Top Notch 👌👌
Sweet 20 minutes of fabium
Another 20 coming right up after this!
broooo the wide bulldog stance looks sooo f-ing radical like im cheesing and its not even my ish lol ... cant weight to see the outcome and you getting to drift it ...peace n love fam keep it rad stay safe and build on ... l8z bro
Seeing all the tube work reminds me of my builds in scrap mechanic
Did you check clearance of the tyres when the suspension is at min & max travel? Don't want a nasty surprise when going over some rumble strips on tracks.
At least you got a picture I did the first 2022 mustang FDF kit at Rennspec and I had to piece it together with my badass puzzle solving skills 🤣🤣🤣
That's some serious angle on that steering! Going to be wild to see that on the track.
Man, I love these videos. This channel has helped me so much. I'm building the first and only AWD K series first generation Honda Prelude and I have to build a tube chassis front end and I don't think I would be able to tackle it without seeing these in depth builds. Everything from building the suspension jig to the planning and the build process. This is grade A content!
Gingium building the ultimate NYC parking machine 😎
I like the fact that your chopping up a truck instead of the cookie cutter 240. Personally I like drift trucks more then most drift cars. There’s just something about seeing a truck swing that’s amazing to watch but that’s just me.
hey, i hope you read this because it would be really helpful for you to get ahead of the L now before you kill your steering rack running those offset rack spacers. you should go ahead and order one of the many rack relocation kits and move the rack forward so you get better steering articulation and a proper tie rod angle whilst also putting less load on your not so common steering rack. or dont do any of that and do whatever you want. lol.
I love bc coilovers.. as a mid to low range price for the br series. You cannot beat em..
Can't wait to see this thing rip, the suspension looks so good and I know it's gonna be a blast at a track
That angle look MAD! Your pickup now Crabazda! 😂
Ah. Another Gingham drift truck vid. Cool. AND more of the best Lo-fi grooves.
It would be super rad to see the S13 boss front end on the truck. Extra tip of the hat the Nissan.
Can't wait to see this finished
Got a vision in my head with the drift truck with some sick rally inspired fenders flairs and a duck tail spoiler 💯💯💯😁
You have the fab up some metal front fender flares and possibly rear
the top-hats look awesome
with a factory subframe youre gonna run into steering bind. wisefab sells a kit to correct it as well as pbm. you can also go with relocation bushings which helps by like 10mm at most.
Looking like Lightning Mcqueen at full lock. Kachow!
damn gingnium came a long, long way since i watched him as a kid, when i was a kid he was playing forza horizon 2 and just starting to build out that blue "BrapBrap" plate miata, now this man owns his own shop and hes building all these crazy cars, this mazda drift truck, the fuckin 800 horsepower volvo, the mid engine eclipse, that's insane.
YES!!! EXCITED TO SEE THIS!!
THAT was such a clean intro!!!
I love how far you have come from when I started watching you with the turbo miata your fabrication skills have come a long way nice work and keep it up
Been watching since he was working out of his own garage with the slammed wagon, shit is crazy.
Its gonna be bonkers once it’s finished!! Can’t wait to see it shred🔥🔥
Can't wait to see that BEAST sliding with that angle kit. Greetings from Romania dude.
Please try placing the front fenders like the Koredare mustang, but fill the gaps, could be super clean
Caleb holy shit, the truck is gonna be CRAZY
Look into a MR2 EPS set up if you want the functionality of power steering but not wanting a big factory serpentine pump/pully
Dude, you need to get together and do some stuff with Taylor Ray. A Gingium/Taylor Ray collab would be sick
You should put a built RB in it, would be fire🔥
idk if you've ever taken the leap into trying to learn some actual CAD, but simplified programs like sketchup could have probably mocked up a tube frame front end pretty easily and you could learn the basics of sketchup in like an afternoon. Highly recommended if you don't want to take the plunge into solidworks and it may have been able to save you the grief.
Super Exciting Stuff!
You should totally fab some group B box fenders. That'd be sick
I was hoping you build the subframe but I’ll take that. 👍🏾👍🏾
"gonna have to chop up this truck."
Bro you already chopped it up I was waiting for a wide body 😂😂😂
Been watching since early 2017, love the channel
I love your approach to this and the way you've shown us everything...thought process, success, failure, rework, all of it. At this point would you say maybe parts of the pickup points jig should have been made a bit heavier?
Jeez the truck is gonna be able to do reverse entries now with that angle.
Buy some OSHPO. Chemical to put on bare metal and prevent it from rusting over time. Then scuff it off and paint. Bless up brother.
Looks so good! Awesome setup!
that thing is gonna look so tuff!
Will the notches mess with the integrity of the chassis? Total noob here but it looks sketchy to me.
A bit, but I'll be adding another small support bar to make up for it!
The quality and skill has only gone up crazy to see how far you've come The only thing I woulda changed is the paint color for the steering rack so you can see leaks much easier with black it's a lot harder silver or white would show it better
Look into fitting a set of 4wd front fenders/guards & ute tub
This truck is going to be hella wide. So Sick!!!
sooooo good. cant wait for the next vid
You should do an electric hydraulic power steering setup, like a Volvo V70 style. Keep that HP for the tires
Woah bro in a Mazda B2600? 😮
Instead of using flat plate to fill the notched section, you could have swaped the cut pieces left side piece to the right side & vice versa this way you will have concave infill with same thickness as the pipe , just something to think about next time
It’s looking 🔥
sick truck man
I recently bought a project car. I plan to K-swap a 1972 Datsun 510 wagon. I don’t have an engine yet but I bought the Datsun off my homegirls husband for cheap because she was making him get rid of it.
You should test fit wheel
Love The Content keep up the good work would love to see the beauty at import face off in st louis Missouri this april there will be drifting and drag racing
Bmw is mcferson too, and control arm mounting even more simple
Most people with s13 chassis, get the Mercedes electric steering rack, so u should check that out
Looking dope!
love the truck series bro
When you wide body the front keep the factory flare with it
cut the stock flares and widen from there! Would give it a much more clean line and some oem++ look on the drift truck!
I enjoy your fab skills man! Keep it up, you build one af a kind cars!
Custom 1 of 1 gingium wide body kit!!!!
You should fab your own flares! I bet you could make some killer ones
i would unbolt the fenders and extend center tab by the door outwards and make a new mount for the bottom boom factory homemade over fenders
Loving it !
Parallel Parking with this gon be easy MY GOD!
Love the vids. Are you going to use the 4wd fenders / bed ?
Aren't there wider factory fenders? Like, from the 4x4 models? Or is it just the bed sides?
So sick
Hey man, I'm stoked to have found your channel!! Awesome build so far!! Hey, what video management software do you use to compile your videos for TH-cam?
Your rack spacers on flipped side to side. It you really should look into relocating your rack forward and ditching the offset spacers. It will take stress off the rack making it last longer
Very cool stuff! But doesn’t cutting in the tube frame like this make it way less rigid/chance of failing?
Get 4×4 fenders off same year mazda, they are flared out more .
Look at B2600 4x4 front fenders. They are wider than the B2200 2x4 fenders.
Love the channel and the variety of cars you work on. I have a question about fusion360 which i think is what you use. When you take a digi picture of the item how do you get the scaling right ? meaning 1 to 1 if i take a pic at closer or futher away and then transfer that to the F360 would the one that is closer be a larger measurment then the one that is further away ? Thanks