Thank you for your review! 😊 Just some of my thoughts: As for material it has only 3 version not 4 as far as I know: basic aluminium (with many color options), copper version (and not brass, brass is an alloy of copper, copper is the pure element), and this titanium (alloy or pure titanium I have no idea). What I think: 1. Aluminium: best one, very light weight (2,7g/cm2 for pure aluminium), more than enough physical strength, and very good heat and electricity conductor. Also andoziable for any kind of color. 2. Copper: Bloody heavy (8,96g/cm2 for pure copper), soft, most expensive, but it has a cool character after removing the warnish, and gets aged. Also not even very good, but rather excellent heat and electricity conductor. 3. Titanium: IMHO the most unreasonable choice for flashlight: about 1.5 times heavier than aluminium (4,5g/cm for pure titanium), "sticky threads", expensive, no real life advantage of being stronger than aluminium, as most of the real tactical lights made of aluminium (aerospace grade, of course, and adding stainless steel bezels in the front for breaking glass, striking opponents, etc). And the worst for the end: the titanium is one of the worst, if not the worst heat and electricity conductor among the metals. Okay, it saves your hand but it can fry/cook the components inside the light. Especially in a small body/head flashlight with terrible heat management as the S2 and similar lights. Although, I think new runs having heat management, temperature controls. I have two copper ones, one with an older Cree XML2 T6-3B (~5000-5200K), and 6x7135 driver chips (6x0,35Amper=2,1Amper total), it gets warm but nothing serious (not even inside the room where is no air movement). This is a smooth body one. A little bit of yellowish-greenish tint, but not much disturbing (only when compared to the Nichia 519A 4500K, that has much beautiful tint). The other is a checkered body one ('LITNIT' written on, not Convoy S2+, have no idea why), and that has a 5Amper current, driving a the Nichia 519A LED with 4500K. Beautiful tint, but Nichia under 5Ampers gets extremely hot! I have no idea what would happen inside the head if it would made of titanium. Maybe the driver would be fried/cooked? Copper or not anyway, this small head with no cooling fins at all, has not much help in all I think. Copper has the "funky factor" for me, and that is all about it. But all in all, I think I will have the titanium one too. :) Anyway I also use the 1, 20, 100% mode with memory mode turned off. :)
I have mixed feelings about Ti lights. On one hand they look really nice one the other aluminum is performance wise the best flashlight material. It's light and very heat conductive while still being cheap.
you can get a screwed clip on that and can change everything from the reflector to lens to leds and driver/board and the button on/off switch to stainless or even have Leds on the switch. you can even buy the body only and made yourself from whatever specs you want. someone did make one and have a 3 led emitter on it. only convoy does it. other manufacturer glued their FL so you cannot even service it yourself.
I have 3 of these S2+ just because they are such good value. I keep one by the back door for a quick grab if i go out at night, One in the car and one as an EDC if I go out in the evenings. The UI is pretty good too with so many different combos. A great light. I also bought a shorter mid tube and that fits a 18350 battery, making for a very short and easily pocketable light
have you got a C8 ? I ordered now a C8+ with the SFT40 led, 8A driver. should be throwing for 750 metres (ansi fl1 was more than 800m when i remember🤔) i had a wurkkos td01c but it was big, bulky, heavy, i sold it on my local market for the same price i got it, and now i ordered the c8+ (sft40)
Excellent! I have a M21A and it's great for the value. I've been thinking about a short tube (18350) S2+ with the same LED as yours, but in 4000K. I think it'll do a pretty good pocket companion that i can upgrade later on with new switches and such.
The M21A is pretty nice, if not quite pocketable. I only don't get one because I already have a C8+ with a W1 LED and that more than covers all my needs for throw. The S2+ 18350 is a wonderful shorty.
I've got a S2 18350 with the SST-20 LED since this comment. Great tint, focused beam and a moderate bias for throw. I ordered a S2 with the same W1 as your C8 to see how it throws.
Nitecore make great batteries and chargers. I'm reasonably lucky that I've been sent so many lights over the years in have a load of them. Check the Flashlight Go link in the description. They have great deals for batteries on there 👍
Got mine since 2020 and love it. The smaller 1xAA Battery based T2 with an high CRI, neutral colored LED is also really nice for stuff in/around the house.
Got me a pair of S2+'s since at least 2018. One 219C 4000K, one SST20 2700K. The former is my most beat up torch by a huge margin, that's how much I use it. With a TIR, they're a total beauty.
Great looking torch. Not sure I would want to get a separate charger for the battery. I really like the styling of this though. Really impressive how you can configure the light. Thank for sharing.
Luckily the Convoy isn't too picky when it comes to batteries and compatible with most batteries so you can buy an 18650 battery with a USB C port instead of an external charger.
I have a waterproof box/container which can hold 4 batteries that I bring with me. I put the full batteries one way and the empty ones the other way, that helps me keep track on which one's which. I have multiple 18650-lights and small battery containers. Very neat with a 4x battery charger. In total I have around 20-30kg of batteries, could probably make a battery for a bike
I used to get excited about Titanium lights, until I found out that Titanium is poor at conducting heat. That's NOT good.
That's true, but the S2+ is not a torch that runs particularly hot.
Does it support external switch as option please ?
Yes, I believe so
I also think the SFT-40 3000k version of this is also a great edc option if you more throw.
Thank you for your review! 😊
Just some of my thoughts:
As for material it has only 3 version not 4 as far as I know: basic aluminium (with many color options), copper version (and not brass, brass is an alloy of copper, copper is the pure element), and this titanium (alloy or pure titanium I have no idea). What I think:
1. Aluminium: best one, very light weight (2,7g/cm2 for pure aluminium), more than enough physical strength, and very good heat and electricity conductor. Also andoziable for any kind of color.
2. Copper: Bloody heavy (8,96g/cm2 for pure copper), soft, most expensive, but it has a cool character after removing the warnish, and gets aged. Also not even very good, but rather excellent heat and electricity conductor.
3. Titanium: IMHO the most unreasonable choice for flashlight: about 1.5 times heavier than aluminium (4,5g/cm for pure titanium), "sticky threads", expensive, no real life advantage of being stronger than aluminium, as most of the real tactical lights made of aluminium (aerospace grade, of course, and adding stainless steel bezels in the front for breaking glass, striking opponents, etc). And the worst for the end: the titanium is one of the worst, if not the worst heat and electricity conductor among the metals. Okay, it saves your hand but it can fry/cook the components inside the light. Especially in a small body/head flashlight with terrible heat management as the S2 and similar lights. Although, I think new runs having heat management, temperature controls.
I have two copper ones, one with an older Cree XML2 T6-3B (~5000-5200K), and 6x7135 driver chips (6x0,35Amper=2,1Amper total), it gets warm but nothing serious (not even inside the room where is no air movement). This is a smooth body one. A little bit of yellowish-greenish tint, but not much disturbing (only when compared to the Nichia 519A 4500K, that has much beautiful tint). The other is a checkered body one ('LITNIT' written on, not Convoy S2+, have no idea why), and that has a 5Amper current, driving a the Nichia 519A LED with 4500K. Beautiful tint, but Nichia under 5Ampers gets extremely hot! I have no idea what would happen inside the head if it would made of titanium. Maybe the driver would be fried/cooked? Copper or not anyway, this small head with no cooling fins at all, has not much help in all I think. Copper has the "funky factor" for me, and that is all about it. But all in all, I think I will have the titanium one too. :) Anyway I also use the 1, 20, 100% mode with memory mode turned off. :)
You can actually purchase metal, magnetic and glow switches for these lights. So many options
I have mixed feelings about Ti lights. On one hand they look really nice one the other aluminum is performance wise the best flashlight material. It's light and very heat conductive while still being cheap.
Great point!
Does the titanium variant heat up a lot faster than the aluminum s2+?
I'm not 100% sure as I haven't been able to compare the two, however, it does seem to heat up less than some other similar 6065 T6 Alu lights I have
The 519 is a lovely high cri emitter hugely popular with flashlight enthusiasts also
With good reason. It's essentially the 219B, but capable of a lot more power.
you can get a screwed clip on that and can change everything from the reflector to lens to leds and driver/board and the button on/off switch to stainless or even have Leds on the switch. you can even buy the body only and made yourself from whatever specs you want. someone did make one and have a 3 led emitter on it. only convoy does it. other manufacturer glued their FL so you cannot even service it yourself.
you should write which version it is.
I have 3 of these S2+ just because they are such good value. I keep one by the back door for a quick grab if i go out at night, One in the car and one as an EDC if I go out in the evenings. The UI is pretty good too with so many different combos. A great light. I also bought a shorter mid tube and that fits a 18350 battery, making for a very short and easily pocketable light
Nice meteorite ring and modes explanation. Have a look at Sofirn and Wurkkos too
Love all my litnit convoy flashlights!
agreed.. very good budget flashlight
Just got a great ine for 10 euro free shipping ,awesome value ,dying to get a c8 also
have you got a C8 ? I ordered now a C8+ with the SFT40 led, 8A driver. should be throwing for 750 metres (ansi fl1 was more than 800m when i remember🤔) i had a wurkkos td01c but it was big, bulky, heavy, i sold it on my local market for the same price i got it, and now i ordered the c8+ (sft40)
Looking online I thought these had a metal switch?
They're pretty modular. There's definitely different tail switch module available. It's a light you can pimp up and make it your own
Excellent! I have a M21A and it's great for the value. I've been thinking about a short tube (18350) S2+ with the same LED as yours, but in 4000K. I think it'll do a pretty good pocket companion that i can upgrade later on with new switches and such.
The M21A is pretty nice, if not quite pocketable. I only don't get one because I already have a C8+ with a W1 LED and that more than covers all my needs for throw.
The S2+ 18350 is a wonderful shorty.
I've got a S2 18350 with the SST-20 LED since this comment. Great tint, focused beam and a moderate bias for throw. I ordered a S2 with the same W1 as your C8 to see how it throws.
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Where do you get your genuine high mAh 18650 batteries? There are so many fake ones out there..
Vape shops always have good selection of 18650 mate
@etonrifle2384 cheers dude.. 👍🏾
Nitecore make great batteries and chargers. I'm reasonably lucky that I've been sent so many lights over the years in have a load of them. Check the Flashlight Go link in the description. They have great deals for batteries on there 👍
Nu Battery sells genuine tested and guarenteed 18650s from the UK.
I like to buy mine from Sofirn and Wurkkos. Their 21700s, for example, are outstanding.
You can add a ring magnet there like 2 bucks
But then you can't use the landyard
S6 is better
Hi Jon. Is that the Convoy S6? I'll add it to my list buddy. Thanks for the heads up
My edc is Convoy's S21D with 60 degree tir lens with nichia 519A 3500k, its pure magic with the extreme flood lens and the tint
nice review brother. is this 5000K?
Thank you. I think it's the 4500K
@@MoorlanderEDC thanks
Got mine since 2020 and love it. The smaller 1xAA Battery based T2 with an high CRI, neutral colored LED is also really nice for stuff in/around the house.
Got me a pair of S2+'s since at least 2018. One 219C 4000K, one SST20 2700K. The former is my most beat up torch by a huge margin, that's how much I use it.
With a TIR, they're a total beauty.
Great looking torch. Not sure I would want to get a separate charger for the battery. I really like the styling of this though.
Really impressive how you can configure the light.
Thank for sharing.
Yeah it's a bit of a pain
Luckily the Convoy isn't too picky when it comes to batteries and compatible with most batteries so you can buy an 18650 battery with a USB C port instead of an external charger.
Just get a Liitokala Lii-100C charger. You'll be set for any single-cell torches you may own until 46950 comes out on the market.
I have a waterproof box/container which can hold 4 batteries that I bring with me. I put the full batteries one way and the empty ones the other way, that helps me keep track on which one's which. I have multiple 18650-lights and small battery containers. Very neat with a 4x battery charger. In total I have around 20-30kg of batteries, could probably make a battery for a bike
Convoy is OK, but better is Sofirn SC31 pro. USB-C charging, 1800lumens, magnetic tailcap(but you should buy it)
yeah for more than double the price...
I'll pick one up
The Convoy S2 is brighter.