I own a '09 Venza V6 AWD at 280K problem free. Replaced brakes and shocks and just regular maintenance. I love how great it's AWD system is. Rain, ice and snow is no match.
This is a great example of how E-LSD’s basically add the functionality of locking diffs to vehicles that would never *ever* have locking diffs otherwise. While a Venza is never going to go for a rock crawl, it’s a huge plus to have in snow or while on the occasional steep gravel driveway or trail head. The only problem with them is waaaaaay too many people don’t understand the concept of *ADDING* throttle when wheels start to spin. With these systems, You have to add enough throttle to force torque past the ABS held wheels (the ones that are spinning) to the wheels that have traction in order for the system to work. That’s an understandably hard concept to grasp for folks who have spent their whole life knowing to lift when wheels start to spin. Especially for folks who have been using diff locks for 20-30 years. That being said, I wish Toyota had spent more time on their earlier E-LSD setups because I know too many old school 4Runner/Tacoma dudes who don’t understand how the 4WD TRAC system worked in 01-02 4runners and therefor, hate anything A-TRAC related on later models like my GX470. The early “TRAC” system had a lurching, jerking, kinda dimwitted dual mode TCS system. In normal driving/off-roading without the center diff locked in these early trucks, wheel slippage will cause the computer to cut the throttle aggressively as the ABS engages, which is infuriating. However, lock the center diff and there’s no throttle cutting, so you can power through shit while the ABS works out which wheels need to slow their roll. Toyota did a miserable job of explaining this though and now you’ve got guys installing TRAC bypass switches to turn their capable 01-02 4runners into open diff cherokees because they never knew that all they had to do was use the center diff lock to get rid of the throttle cutting side of TRAC. I know one of these guys personally and I still can’t get him to flip the switch and hit the diff button to prove to him that I’m right. (I had an 01 limited and now own a GX470 with A-TRAC that has the same issue) There were other issues with the TCS on these trucks, namely the decision to route E-LSD’s to rear drum brakes but that’s another story. The whole “do the opposite when you get stuck if you have AWD w/TCS” thing might be a good video for you guys to make!
I have a 2012 limited v6 with only 52k on it. I love it. Its perfect not too big not too small 2 row seating. I get compliments all the time because people dont know what it is and the definately think its newer than a 2012
I picked up a 2013 limited in I believe it's called cosmic grey paint job. with the sport wheels option. It's beautiful. Blue at might with metal flaking and it looks black during the day. Deffentily gets called a newer than it truly is vehicle
@@matthewjohnson1211 yes!!! bc that is exactly what a driver would be looking for if he finds himself needing that system to work to get him un-stock "The Venza got me un-stock and it passed that snowbank that i found myself into... but damn... it did not "styled it"".... sure!!!
@@mtt3870 I’m sorry, but the Venza is at the bottom of all-wheel-drive systems. With some decent tires and good driving skill, Will it get you out of a snow bank!? Sure..but next time you might not be so lucky. It’s a front wheel drive based system for “soccer mom’s” -nothing more, nothing less...
Matthew Johnson no kidding... it is a wagon... that’s what they are for... that is the exact reason the manufacturer puts them in the commerce stream... so people buy them to transport their families with a lot of sporting gear in it...just like an Audi, MB or BMW wagons ... maybe a little better bc it has more ground clearance.... ohhh and SUV’s no matter if they are as capable as a 4Runner and a Range Rover or as car like as an X5, Pathfinder or CX9, vast majority use them to transport their kids and family. Your comment just sounded.... “if it is not an Audi it didn’t styled it”
i've heard the Venza is always in 4x4 mode when you start rolling. And after a certain speed it is front traction only, but if it slips then 4x4 mode engages of course...
What's the purpose of this test ? Why? Anyone driving a venza would never be in this situation unless it was a mistake ? Neat to watch, but I don't know why lol
@@CarQuestion awesome. Unfortunately Venza owners don't lol. How about a lifted mudder on a Nascar track. You can show how it rolls over in the corners. Interesting content to watch, just don't see the applicability . But hey good on you, people are watching. Cheers 👍
Dave, I think showing the capability of the AWD to transfer power to the correct wheel, even on an incline, will assure you as a "Venza owner" that probably if your driveway is on a hill and you get some ice or is just gravel, the car won't struggle to transfer power. Is not about taking the car to the same situation, but to give you the confidence that something easier than this you won't have problems at all. And why not, if you are the adventure type of person, you could have some fun.
The test is to see if it can crawl out of a situation where it doesn't have all wheels on the ground. It sounds simple, but with all the different awd systems out there, many won't actually achieve this result.
@@subazealand9158 Toyota, up until recently, has had a poor all wheel drive system. The algorithm (programming) is well-known to be poorly designed. As you know, the Venza and the Sienna both have excellent distribution of torque left to right. But the question is why? As you stated, the Venza and Sienna are even less off-road capable than the Highlander and the RAV4. One possible explanation is that the Highlander and RAV4 can theoretically drive off road with their relatively higher ground clearance. The Venza and Sienna both have very low clearance, like a car. The Sienna and Venza have an algorithm that would make it fantastic on snow. Maximum grip, torque transfer. The RAV4 and Highlander have very little to no side to side axle torque distribution. Very little ABS intervention. This would result in high speed wheel spinning which would allow the RAV4 and the Highlander to be more suitable for off-road encounters such as mud or sand, a situation to where one would want very little traction control to slow down your momentum.
My grandmother leased a 2015 the interior although wasn't the latest and greatest it was still nice enough and very practical when the lease was up she got a rav4 and keeps saying she misses her venza
I actually just purchased a used venza awd V6. Its amazing timing for me and this vid lol. I love that not only new cars are tested. There are plenty of people who rather buy used.
Test note: We are surprised! The Toyota Venza AWD pass the test! But don't turn off the traction control ( TRAC ) or it will be a smoke show!
Hi @Car Question
Can you do a diagonal test with a TDI touareg 2016? or even newer
thnx
I own a '09 Venza V6 AWD at 280K problem free. Replaced brakes and shocks and just regular maintenance. I love how great it's AWD system is. Rain, ice and snow is no match.
Thanks for sharing ! Review is coming soon !
Wow 280k. Awesome!
This is a great example of how E-LSD’s basically add the functionality of locking diffs to vehicles that would never *ever* have locking diffs otherwise. While a Venza is never going to go for a rock crawl, it’s a huge plus to have in snow or while on the occasional steep gravel driveway or trail head.
The only problem with them is waaaaaay too many people don’t understand the concept of *ADDING* throttle when wheels start to spin. With these systems, You have to add enough throttle to force torque past the ABS held wheels (the ones that are spinning) to the wheels that have traction in order for the system to work. That’s an understandably hard concept to grasp for folks who have spent their whole life knowing to lift when wheels start to spin. Especially for folks who have been using diff locks for 20-30 years.
That being said, I wish Toyota had spent more time on their earlier E-LSD setups because I know too many old school 4Runner/Tacoma dudes who don’t understand how the 4WD TRAC system worked in 01-02 4runners and therefor, hate anything A-TRAC related on later models like my GX470. The early “TRAC” system had a lurching, jerking, kinda dimwitted dual mode TCS system. In normal driving/off-roading without the center diff locked in these early trucks, wheel slippage will cause the computer to cut the throttle aggressively as the ABS engages, which is infuriating. However, lock the center diff and there’s no throttle cutting, so you can power through shit while the ABS works out which wheels need to slow their roll.
Toyota did a miserable job of explaining this though and now you’ve got guys installing TRAC bypass switches to turn their capable 01-02 4runners into open diff cherokees because they never knew that all they had to do was use the center diff lock to get rid of the throttle cutting side of TRAC. I know one of these guys personally and I still can’t get him to flip the switch and hit the diff button to prove to him that I’m right. (I had an 01 limited and now own a GX470 with A-TRAC that has the same issue) There were other issues with the TCS on these trucks, namely the decision to route E-LSD’s to rear drum brakes but that’s another story.
The whole “do the opposite when you get stuck if you have AWD w/TCS” thing might be a good video for you guys to make!
This is my favorite car test!
Glad you like :)
I miss my 2012. I absolutely love this vehicle.
Yes, finally! I've been waiting for you to test this car. I believe this, the current Sienna and the 3rd gen. Highlander have the same AWD system.
When Karen's had too many mimosas and drives over the parking lot curb
And yelling while jumping over them
this made me laugh so hard
I have a 2012 limited v6 with only 52k on it. I love it. Its perfect not too big not too small 2 row seating. I get compliments all the time because people dont know what it is and the definately think its newer than a 2012
I picked up a 2013 limited in I believe it's called cosmic grey paint job. with the sport wheels option. It's beautiful. Blue at might with metal flaking and it looks black during the day. Deffentily gets called a newer than it truly is vehicle
I own a problem free 13 AWD Venza.
It’s a great On Road All Weather Crossover.
Ive got same car bro it drives great !
Same man its a fun car to drive
I’ve got a 2013 also. It is approaching 92,000 mi. How about y’all’s?
@@TraMENDEZ_TRANSFORMation 111k going strong
@@TraMENDEZ_TRANSFORMation 160 000 kms
I’m impressed!
A Toyota AWD system that passed? I’m shocked
I wouldn’t say it “styled it” by any means...
I know!!! 2015 and older Venza doing better than some newer Toyota crossovers. I knew the Venza was a low key beast!
@@matthewjohnson1211 yes!!! bc that is exactly what a driver would be looking for if he finds himself needing that system to work to get him un-stock "The Venza got me un-stock and it passed that snowbank that i found myself into... but damn... it did not "styled it"".... sure!!!
@@mtt3870 I’m sorry, but the Venza is at the bottom of all-wheel-drive systems. With some decent tires and good driving skill, Will it get you out of a snow bank!? Sure..but next time you might not be so lucky. It’s a front wheel drive based system for “soccer mom’s” -nothing more, nothing less...
Matthew Johnson no kidding... it is a wagon... that’s what they are for... that is the exact reason the manufacturer puts them in the commerce stream... so people buy them to transport their families with a lot of sporting gear in it...just like an Audi, MB or BMW wagons ... maybe a little better bc it has more ground clearance.... ohhh and SUV’s no matter if they are as capable as a 4Runner and a Range Rover or as car like as an X5, Pathfinder or CX9, vast majority use them to transport their kids and family.
Your comment just sounded.... “if it is not an Audi it didn’t styled it”
I would love to see a second generation toyota sienna do the test
Soon my friend soon!
given the crappy awd systems on Toyota's regular cars (not purposeful 4wd) I am VERY suprised Venza made the climb and with relative ease. thumbs up!
It also surprised us
I just bought a 2012 AWD V6 and I love it
i've heard the Venza is always in 4x4 mode when you start rolling. And after a certain speed it is front traction only, but if it slips then 4x4 mode engages of course...
I'd love to see Highlander 2020 after the previous generation failure.
Next up: Toyota Highlander Hybrid in 2 weeks
@@CarQuestion Looking forward to seeing your reviews on this.
You got me - I thought it was the NEW Venza!
It said v6 in the title and the preview is not lying ;)
Car Question true! Looking forward to you testing the new Venza! Have a good one
@@pnthim Can't give you a date for now, but it's on the list!
What's the purpose of this test ? Why?
Anyone driving a venza would never be in this situation unless it was a mistake ?
Neat to watch, but I don't know why lol
We are extreme! We push the limit! We are explorers! We think past the Costco parking!
@@CarQuestion awesome.
Unfortunately Venza owners don't lol.
How about a lifted mudder on a Nascar track. You can show how it rolls over in the corners.
Interesting content to watch, just don't see the applicability .
But hey good on you, people are watching.
Cheers 👍
Dave, I think showing the capability of the AWD to transfer power to the correct wheel, even on an incline, will assure you as a "Venza owner" that probably if your driveway is on a hill and you get some ice or is just gravel, the car won't struggle to transfer power.
Is not about taking the car to the same situation, but to give you the confidence that something easier than this you won't have problems at all. And why not, if you are the adventure type of person, you could have some fun.
@TCL Thanks for helping my beautiful French/English writing :) Just made the correction.
The test is to see if it can crawl out of a situation where it doesn't have all wheels on the ground. It sounds simple, but with all the different awd systems out there, many won't actually achieve this result.
How is possible a Venza can pass and RAV4 or Highlander no!
Might have différent algorithm
@@CarQuestion for sure, but my question is why? This is less off road type than a Rav or Highlander
@@subazealand9158 Toyota, up until recently, has had a poor all wheel drive system. The algorithm (programming) is well-known to be poorly designed. As you know, the Venza and the Sienna both have excellent distribution of torque left to right. But the question is why? As you stated, the Venza and Sienna are even less off-road capable than the Highlander and the RAV4. One possible explanation is that the Highlander and RAV4 can theoretically drive off road with their relatively higher ground clearance. The Venza and Sienna both have very low clearance, like a car. The Sienna and Venza have an algorithm that would make it fantastic on snow. Maximum grip, torque transfer. The RAV4 and Highlander have very little to no side to side axle torque distribution. Very little ABS intervention. This would result in high speed wheel spinning which would allow the RAV4 and the Highlander to be more suitable for off-road encounters such as mud or sand, a situation to where one would want very little traction control to slow down your momentum.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 this model year venza has 8.1inches of ground clearance, that's relatively high, SUV territory
I love my 09 Venza I would not tempt fate. It rides like new at 180g's great v6
Can you test the 2010-2017 Chevrolet Equinox 2.4?, please
Loser vehicles
Seriously..piece of sh#t vehicles!!
How is the awd system on venza 2016 compared to a highlander ? In snow / ice / mud ?
Same and not that impressive
Just a helper
This makes me wonder about the new RAV4 LE/XLE with the Dynamic Torque Control...
I like 4wd much better than awd. And this test proves 4wd is much better
Unless you have a Subaru lol
I miss my 15 venza. It had a 2.7 in it but if I get another one its gonna have the 3.5 like this
I had the 09 Rav4 AWD it has the 4x4 lock that supposedly sends 50% torque to the rear. Not sure that helps in a test like this?
Can you test the new Rav4 LE with the Dynamic Torque Control? Also the manual Crosstrek?
That would be cool -a manual crosstrek! I’d be very interested to see how it would do..
I was always interested in this car I wish they updated the interior
My grandmother leased a 2015 the interior although wasn't the latest and greatest it was still nice enough and very practical when the lease was up she got a rav4 and keeps saying she misses her venza
Is it good for off-road
Did pretty good. Not as good as my Subaru but expected.
Test the ford explorer please
I sold my 2010 when we moved back to Europe but now eyeing Canada and sure will buy a 2015 model v6 AWD. The Mercedes R class is no match to the Venza
Fun to watch, next time try to get that camera to focus! lol
Lolllll lolll you know what... it happen sometimes ... so you do with it. Can’t blame my friends to help me for nothing in that cq adventure
Do this with V6 RAV4
should do the same. The Rav4, Highlander, Venza, and Lexus RX350 are basically all the same thing.
Fair enough
Imagine a sienna
a long time ago: th-cam.com/video/Za0BVHOliDY/w-d-xo.html
NISSAN PATHFINDER TEST
Why test old car when there are new ones you haven't test?
Because we can’t test then all
We can’t buy them all
And those are still on the road
Any request ?
@@CarQuestion Diagonal test for 2019/2020 Santa Fe with 2.0T AWD. You should be able to rent one for the weekend. Cheers
I actually just purchased a used venza awd V6. Its amazing timing for me and this vid lol. I love that not only new cars are tested. There are plenty of people who rather buy used.
That was awesome anyway
my driveway is not that steep so my 2WD works just fine
I must not watch enough of these because it was not impressive to me at all but I do like the Venza though.
It's a city car with no lock or offroad mode
Супер
Venza 👎🏻
Thumbs down? Can't afford?
@@arvee9657 ahhaaa, say it to your boyfriend in the school
I am shocked the Venza passed it since later models Highlanders do not!!!!!!!!!!!!