Has anyone ever noticed that, when you're in the outside queue, you pass by an organ and the name on the organ is Ravenscroft; it's an homage to Thurl Ravenscroft who did SO many voices for Disney!
The Florida mansion has one more minor but really cool change that didn't get mentioned, but I understand as it's extremely easy to miss. After the stretching room scene ends and the door opens, hang back so you are last to leave the stretching room and listen closely. New audio was added in 2007 of the gargoyles WHISPERING at the guests as they leave the room saying things like "Stay together", "Look alive", and "Get out!!". I have to thank the blog Long Forgotten for pointing this out as I don't think I would've noticed this otherwise. It's really quite creepy and effective as the statues themselves are motionless, but these creepy whispers just echo around the room. Really, really easy to miss but such a cool little detail that adds to the overall theme of the ride: Are the gargoyles actually talking to you, or is it your imagination hmmm??
I think the reason I love the original more has to do with the outside, as it just feels more in place as apart of New Orleans, like it's something you'd expect to walk up to, and you can even get this feeling of terror just from standing by the gates with it.
Interesting. I do believe the facade is themed well as it's fits in New Orleans Square. But as a southerner, to me it just looks like any old antebellum building, and not so foreboding. I think the old New England facade on top of the hill looks more "haunted", especially at night when you see the ghosts crossing past the window. But to be honest I enjoy both versions of the ride, and appreciate the differences.
@@thebikewatcher9819 Lol, I like how our perceptions differ! Because as a non southerner who’s never really seen that much antebellum houses in my life, I’ve always found the original Disney facade a lot scarier because I see the front pillars looking like teeth and the house almost looking like it has a face. Personally, I’ve found the WDW facade not as creepy because it looks cozy and glamorous to me, especially the open patio with the plants and the light-brown colored bricks of the mansion. 😄
I was the WDI Production Designer who put in the revised Scene 4 (Lightning Paintings) and Scene 6 (Grand Staircase). Thanks for doing this video. Magic Kingdom's Stretch Gargoyle Cornice had to be re-designed/built to accommodate the wonderful 100 speaker driver sound system in the Stretch which allows the Ghost Host to "go THROUGH you" as it crosses the room. A lot of work went into the 2007 rehab and I salute the whole team for doing a bang up job on this classic.
Why did you guys try to make the Disneyworld HM more like the Disneyland ride during that refurbishment? In my PERSONAL OPINION, it’s better to have unique experiences...
Thanks for informing me! While I didn’t really enjoy the changes to the portrait hall due to my personally preference for the idea of unique mansions, I still really enjoyed the refurbishment. Thanks!
Damn, this was cool... Having always loved the Magic Kingdom's Haunted Mansion -- while not having been out to the park in forever -- and never having actually been to Disneyland, I always wondered what all of the major differences between the rides were. Of course, there are lots of videos covering the histories of both rides, and you can kind of break down all of the details of the differences, if you really set your mind to it. But, a succinct, informative video like this, perfectly rounds down all of that information, and saves a whole lot of time. Great work! My first thought as to a secondary video topic, falling under this particular 'differences' theme, would be my second favorite ride in Magic Kingdom; Pirates! That is, if there are enough differences between them to warrant one.
Even as a homegrown Disneylander, there is no doubt the ride experience at Florida is superior. I didn't think the extra rooms (library, staircase, sinister 11) made much of a difference but then I actually went to Disney World and was blown away by how much larger and smoother the entire experience is. I still favor Disneyland (nostalgia freak) but for the last decade+ I've had to make dual trips every other year to both WDW and DL.
I like that they do the different versions of the haunted Mansion. It's my favorite ride, but it's nice to have something different waiting at each park, yet familiar at the same time!
blickblocks because WDW gets more International visitors whereas Disneyland gets more locals. When you have more people coming from other countries, they expect to see the regular version and not the overlay.
This video could use an update with the DL version having a new queue line and updated loading area while the WDW version having the Hatbox Ghost in the endless hallway.
The only real element that I missed with the Florida Mansion compared to the California one, is the sensation of the stretching room actually moving as the elevator lowers. It really gives you a sense of unease that you can feel the room "stretching".
I’d love to see more of these types of videos - they are super interesting. Do you have any plans to cover Pirates of the Caribbean in any of your videos? It’s my favorite ride, and I’d love to see you cover it, if that interests you at all! I really enjoy your videos.
I would like to add that the reason the stretching room in the Florida version doesn't work as an elevator, and instead has a rising ceiling, is because that Florida is just barely above sea level, and so it is impossible to build underground, and so basements are impossible.
This is the same reason the living with the land pavilion at epcot is built upon a manmade hill, they wanted guests to enter the building on the top floor, and descend into the bottom floor, but a basement on ground level is impossible, so they built their own hill to dig into.
There's also no reason for it, since the Florida show building is inside the railroad tracks. Florida's Space Mountain does have some contrivances to get guests under the tracks going in and out, since it's an issue there.
Addie Marie In Orlando, you can not build underground. The Disney underground tunnels are built into man made hills as well. Most of Disney World is actually build on top of man made plataue, designed to allow them to include tunnels like that. It is not possible to build underground in Orlando. I know because I live in Orlando, and I'm currently studying to be a civil engineer.
Despite personally having fond memories of the former, I admittedly find the latter funnier, mainly because of the more lively (or should I say undeadly) movements.
Agreed - Disney and Universal have become cheap and would rather have a worse but more cost-effective effect. Sick of rides being ruined by screens and projections. Animatronics are so much more impressive.
They're not just projections though. The ghosts interact with the guests. For example Gus will take your head off, blow it up like a balloon, and let it go so it flies about and then lands back on your neck.
I miss Park Ride History like I miss my dad. Both of them went to find some milk or something and never came back. Daddy Defunctland says hes coming back, but I don't know. Tired of getting my hopes up.
Wassha 09 The one in Tokyo is actually an outdated replica of Orlando, and it doesnt have any of the additional features you find in Florida: interactive queue, magic band interactivity, or new technology
Same castle too. Yah I like it when things are unique and not copied. Also, the Haunted Mansion in Tokyo is in Fantasyland. It should have had it's own look to match the Bavarian style of Fantasyland.
@@lawrencepatricksingson8831 It was put in Tokyo's Fantasyland because ghost stories are more often seen as fairy tales in Japanese culture. Disney didn't know if Tokyo would be a success so, as according to the Disney+ Imagineering story, they did random "cookie cutter" designs from DL and WDW. That's why Adventureland has a New Orleans section, Space Mountain is the DL version, and the Haunted Mansion is the WDW version. It's really a thrown together park.
forgot to mention the lack of the seasonal overlay, also given the overlay in the Disneyland version and the fact they said they wouldn't be doing an overlay to the world version shouldn't the world version say the same not the land version.
That was an awesome video! I liked the way you changed it up by focusing on the differences between the two mansions. Most Haunted Mansion videos feature pretty much the same "History of" facts, so this was a nice breath of fresh air! Very fun and unique!
They didn't just make duplicates of all of the props. Imagineer Jason Surrell's book, The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering A Disney Classic, makes clear they made all interiors for both mansions--i.e. all elements of all scenes from top to bottom--simultaneously. Meaning, essentially, they are BOTH the first Haunted Mansion. Unlike any other Disney headliner, the East Coast and West Coast Haunted Mansions don't draw from each other or build on each other or improve on each other. With the exception of space allowing one to be longer than the other and geology not allowing one to have an actual elevator, they essentially are each other.
My issue with the Florida mansion is that you barely see the Mansion. The line is behind the big gates and then you're walking underneath big covered walkways so there's no apprehension as you get closer as there is at Phantom Manor or California. It feels disconnected.
I'd say it was mostly meant to be viewed and noticed from across the water. Giving the impression of being foreboding and creepy. Then its kind of already lingering in the back of your mind before you even head over to the mansion... This was my experience, when I was 7 anyway, and I remember the anticipation and butterflies in my chest fondly.
There’s a reason for that. Most of it can only be seen from either across the River or just prior to the queue line. And with the Florida rain, it makes it look pretty darn creepy, large, and imposing. Looking at it, you can tell it’s not a “house” like DL’s is, but large gothic stone castle mansion. Remember, nothing is left to chance with Disney. There’s a reason for every little plan and detail. A lot was learned from the mistakes of DL (not that they’re “mistakes” 😉)... there’s a reason WDW is the flagship of the Disney empire.
Seconded. Disney seems to favor the Florida setup for other attractions, though. Tokyo HM does the same thing, but Phantom Manor does not. Mystic Manor in HK is also entered from below. I love CA for that reason - you actually enter the building in question from the front doors. It adds to the ambiance.
It’s already been commented on, but you forgot to mention the Sinister 11, the portraits whose eyes follow you. Seven of them are in the loading area, two before you get to the stairs, Medusa is still in the hallway but she morphs now, and one is between the Grand Hall and Attic.
On a Spring break long long ago [before fingerprinting] we managed to position ourselves at the end of a group, late at night when the HM was running slowly. We hopped off and toured the backstage from catwalks to under the graveyard or seance room. Nowadays that can get you permanently banned for life, so don't do it. But in 1986 it was a BLAST. Then I got a job which took me to LA, so I got to do some self guided backstage touring of the Anaheim HM as well. Great fun! Super old theatre tricks, and it's all just a big wooden set in a giant soundstage / warehouse.
I've got to say being a 90s kid riding the haunted Mansion here in Florida to it's new updated version...I'm not a big fan of the Constance character...I liked the more ghostly version vs. Constance made it seem a little creepier. The Constance character reminds me of cheap horror film slasher movies lol
I only went on The Haunted Mansion ride at Disney World and from watching the videos I love Disney World so much better .Loved this ride though went on it in winters of 85 amd 86.
Yeah, the latticework pattern in the window leadwork and decorative chimneys are most certainly mock Elizabethan features. That being said, the overall form of the mansion, with its high peaked gables, along the smaller details, like the wrought iron conservatory and rooftop ornaments, firmly place it in the early Gothic revival movement.
When I went to Disney World on July 4th weekend back in 84 they added an additional story line to the Haunted Mansion ride by having cast members act like a rouge employee had taken over the ride, does anybody else remember this?
One thing I really miss from the Florida ride is back before the 2007 refurb, instead of the hallway of portraits that changed with the lightning strikes, it originally had a narrow hallway with the Sinister 11 portraits that had glowing eyes that followed you. It used to creep me out as a kid.
I like the one in Orlando better. The mansion seems more spooky on the outside, and I like the additional scenes like the infinite stairs, the piano room, and the library. I do wish we had the hatbox ghost. Maybe for the 50th in 2021!
Your rooming stretching? Whuch part? The ceiling or the bottom? In whcih case, when you walk into the hallway, ytou're teleported to the hall of portaits (if Disneyworld, it's the doom buggies!)
Phantom Manor is so good. Frontierland in DLP, in general, is more interesting than other counterparts because there is a larger story tying multiple rides together. The track layout of PM is basically just that of Disneyland but with modified scenes.
There is something really cool (but inconsistent) enabled by projection in the new FL hitchhiking ghost scenes. The ride has the ability to detect rider identities (presumably through MagicBands) and customize the projected image. I rode it a few years back and the ghost for our DoomBuggy erected a tombstone with both of our names on it. Seeing our names in the mirror with the ghost was instantly delightful. However, more recently I've ridden it again, again wearing a MagicBand, and did not get any personalization. We both were thrilled the previous time when it did happen, but we are also fanatics (engineer + artist & former cast member, multiple visits most years, multiple parks) so maybe we are outliers. It's possible some people thought it was too personal / creepy.
I personally prefer Disneyland’s due to many reasons. The first, and most obvious is it’s historical value. Other reasons include it’s more elaborate wallpaper, wainscoting, and intertwined design elements (the same lion corbels in three places, similar window designs, etc...) It also more closely adheres to the three act structure. Frightening sounds THEN strange images. This concept was ditched at WDW when they decided to include the decomposing portrait effect. I also enjoy how in the DL Version you walk around the entire house and enter through the back door. In WDW you enter through the side of a hill and never fully appreciate the manor grounds. This is was just my personal opinion. Both are amazing rides!
When it came to duplicating them for WDW..there were three dupes of the stretching room and pictures, since two stretching rooms exist in each park.:-)
Because Disneyland it is in New Orleans square so it has to be that style while there is NO Orleans square in Disney world instead liberty square/street so they need to make it like liberty style
The portrait hall at WDW is a brand-new addition. it's an upgrade from the original portrait hall, redone only a few years ago long *after* the 2007 addition of the Escher-style staircases. The original portraits just had cut out eyes that followed you, and no windows. The Hall of Mirrors changes are not projected onto the mirrors. They are simply video screens behind the mirrors, which are now clear glass. The guest images are now live camera feeds to simulate the reflection and help the computers map where to place the animated ghosts. Another change from the original are many of the vocals in the graveyard jamboree. Several at WDW were inexplicably replaced in the 2007 rehab, while Disneyland still uses the original vocals. Check out videos of the Tokyo Disneyland version. It was an exact copy of the Florida Mansion, except for the Japanese Ghost Host. It has remained unchanged, and gives us a look at what the Florida Mansion was like when it opened in 1971 (with the exception of one small Corridor of Doors effect that is not in any of the other Mansions).
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its funny because the house is Disneyland is based off of the Shipley Lydecker Mansion in Baltimore which is closer to Florida than to california, and the Disney World house which is in western Pennsylvania is closer to Disneyland. its like the theming and the locations should have been switched, or maybe they meant to do it that way so that California could experience the one culture vs the other.
Between the two US mansions, I firmly believe the California one is better simply because the set up before getting in the Doom Buggie is creepier. In California, when you're waiting in the foyer there's an inaudible hum caused by the stretching elevator which makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and because we don't have the changing portrait it makes everything else that comes after so bizarre. Then you get into the stretching room where, because ours is an elevator, you have that slight hum mixed with the walls stretching and the floor actually moving (which you can kind of feel) which is really trippy and messes with your head. Then you have the long hallway before the load area (which is supposed to be in limbo) where you still have the previously mentioned hum but you also have the lightning outside the window mixed with the changing portraits which you have more time to look at than you do in the Florida version all of which comes together to become very unsettling and super creepy. I feel like the Florida version looses a lot of that by having a changing portrait before you get into the stretching room and by having the load area be right after the stretching room and be styled to look like a random hallway in the house. To me, that makes ours in California the better one. But none of them compare to Phantom Manor.
Some more reasons in favor of the California Mansion: -The first, and most obvious is it’s historical value. - It has more elaborate wallpaper, wainscoting, and intertwined design elements (the same lion corbels in three places, similar window designs, etc...) -It also more closely adheres to the three act structure. Frightening sounds THEN strange images. This concept was ditched at WDW when they decided to include the decomposing portrait effect. -In the DL Version you walk around the entire house and enter through the back door. In WDW you enter through the side of a hill and never fully appreciate the manor grounds. This is was just my personal opinion. Both are amazing rides!
I haven't seen the others besides California yet but I love it, it has always been my favorite ride going all the way back to the 1970's. When I was a kid it just felt real to me. And Hi!
Taylor Romano actually, the WDW has newer technology and an amazing interactive queue, not to mention a whole store dedicated to the attraction. So the attraction itself is objectively newer and better in Orlando, and the overall experiencie is more complete there. California has the Halloween overlay of course, but in general Orlando is the best
luuchoo G Disneyland’s also has a store. In fact it has a store AND a stand AND a seasonal cafe. Also, Disneyworld‘s new additions have been very controversial within the Disney community. It is highly objectionable whether they are a good additions or a bad ones.
Always had Haunted Mansion as a concept from Disney as my favorite. Always been to the Orlando because of me living in Georgia. Never been to the Disneyland original Haunted Mansion YET. But that one is my favorite because of the New Orleans style mansion Walt went with. But I have the Orlando one close to me because of the 3 or 4 times I've been in it. And I like how Disney did the Eastern type of mansion for Orlando and the New Orleans style for the original.
Normally I prefer Anaheim’s attractions over Orlando’s, but Haunted Mansion is an exception. I like Orlando’s Haunted Mansion slightly more because the ride is longer.
I’m confused. You say more changes can be made to the Florida Haunted Mansion. But then the Anaheim version gets switched out to Nightmare Before Christmas for half of the year.
I love the original Haunted Mansion, I think it's awesome and when I think of the Haunted Mansion, in my mind I see the one at Disneyland. But I have to say, as far as looks go, WDW has it beat. That large brick mansion just looks scary. I read on another site, that when Tokyo was built they went with the WDW style architecture as opposed to the Disneyland antebellum look, because the Imagineers felt it was more imposing and just looked more like what you think of as a typical haunted house.
You forgot to mention the madam leota statue that blinks outside of the magic kingdom. The haunted mansion music also plays in the line at magic kingdom. At Disneyland it does not. You can also hear the howling dog at magic kingdom. At Disneyland you cannot. Oh and madam leota floats a different way at Disneyland in more of a side to side motion. At magic kingdom she floats up and down. And you forgot to mention the eyes right after the stair case scene at magic kingdom. Those eyes turn into the eye wall paper in the corridor of doors. And the stretching room scene is also slightly different. At Disneyland the hanging body scene lasts about eight seconds when at magic kingdom it only lasts about three seconds. You also forgot to mention the little madam leota room present in magic kingdom right after the hitchhiking ghosts. At Disneyland she is present on the escalator. The trees in the graveyard scene at Disneyland have faces. At magic kingdom they do not. Great video by the way man!
The only aspect of the attraction that I truly prefer in the CA mansion is the Hatbox Ghost. Other than that the FL mansion is superior. This is looking at the rides themselves and not taking into account what was built first and who directly worked on them.
Would love to see a video on the differences between the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Pirates of the Caribbean rides. I went to the Disneyland version first and was disappointed in the Magic Kingdom ride. It seemed much less immersive and more of a ride rather than a "fantasy". Thanks!
what i don't understand is why does Disneyland version remain mostly the same whereas Pirates of the Caribbean got messed around the most over the years and Walt had his hands on it from beginning to end
Has anyone ever noticed that, when you're in the outside queue, you pass by an organ and the name on the organ is Ravenscroft; it's an homage to Thurl Ravenscroft who did SO many voices for Disney!
yes I did..
The Florida mansion has one more minor but really cool change that didn't get mentioned, but I understand as it's extremely easy to miss. After the stretching room scene ends and the door opens, hang back so you are last to leave the stretching room and listen closely. New audio was added in 2007 of the gargoyles WHISPERING at the guests as they leave the room saying things like "Stay together", "Look alive", and "Get out!!". I have to thank the blog Long Forgotten for pointing this out as I don't think I would've noticed this otherwise. It's really quite creepy and effective as the statues themselves are motionless, but these creepy whispers just echo around the room. Really, really easy to miss but such a cool little detail that adds to the overall theme of the ride: Are the gargoyles actually talking to you, or is it your imagination hmmm??
They were whispering before then, 👩🏫, back inn 🏨 1995 when I was there
I think the reason I love the original more has to do with the outside, as it just feels more in place as apart of New Orleans, like it's something you'd expect to walk up to, and you can even get this feeling of terror just from standing by the gates with it.
Interesting. I do believe the facade is themed well as it's fits in New Orleans Square. But as a southerner, to me it just looks like any old antebellum building, and not so foreboding. I think the old New England facade on top of the hill looks more "haunted", especially at night when you see the ghosts crossing past the window. But to be honest I enjoy both versions of the ride, and appreciate the differences.
@@thebikewatcher9819 Lol, I like how our perceptions differ! Because as a non southerner who’s never really seen that much antebellum houses in my life, I’ve always found the original Disney facade a lot scarier because I see the front pillars looking like teeth and the house almost looking like it has a face. Personally, I’ve found the WDW facade not as creepy because it looks cozy and glamorous to me, especially the open patio with the plants and the light-brown colored bricks of the mansion. 😄
I was the WDI Production Designer who put in the revised Scene 4 (Lightning Paintings) and Scene 6 (Grand Staircase). Thanks for doing this video. Magic Kingdom's Stretch Gargoyle Cornice had to be re-designed/built to accommodate the wonderful 100 speaker driver sound system in the Stretch which allows the Ghost Host to "go THROUGH you" as it crosses the room. A lot of work went into the 2007 rehab and I salute the whole team for doing a bang up job on this classic.
Neil Engel hey I have a question why did you guys get rid of miss April December and never added in Florida but was in the concept art
Why did you guys try to make the Disneyworld HM more like the Disneyland ride during that refurbishment? In my PERSONAL OPINION, it’s better to have unique experiences...
We wanted the best of DL with some new things (Staircase) because the WDW building could support it whereas the DL one can't.
We only had room for 4 portraits since we needed guests to see the lightning in the windows first before they saw the changing pictures.
Thanks for informing me! While I didn’t really enjoy the changes to the portrait hall due to my personally preference for the idea of unique mansions, I still really enjoyed the refurbishment. Thanks!
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Damn, this was cool... Having always loved the Magic Kingdom's Haunted Mansion -- while not having been out to the park in forever -- and never having actually been to Disneyland, I always wondered what all of the major differences between the rides were. Of course, there are lots of videos covering the histories of both rides, and you can kind of break down all of the details of the differences, if you really set your mind to it. But, a succinct, informative video like this, perfectly rounds down all of that information, and saves a whole lot of time. Great work!
My first thought as to a secondary video topic, falling under this particular 'differences' theme, would be my second favorite ride in Magic Kingdom; Pirates! That is, if there are enough differences between them to warrant one.
There is much more difference between the two Pirates. Pirates in California is twice as long as Florida's
I like how magic kingdom treasured as a big enough tourist attraction AGAINST the idea of a Jack Sellington
Even as a homegrown Disneylander, there is no doubt the ride experience at Florida is superior. I didn't think the extra rooms (library, staircase, sinister 11) made much of a difference but then I actually went to Disney World and was blown away by how much larger and smoother the entire experience is. I still favor Disneyland (nostalgia freak) but for the last decade+ I've had to make dual trips every other year to both WDW and DL.
I like that they do the different versions of the haunted Mansion. It's my favorite ride, but it's nice to have something different waiting at each park, yet familiar at the same time!
I suppose the biggest difference of all is that the Magic Kingdom version doesn't get the seasonal "Nightmare Before Christmas" overlay.
Matt McIrvin I wish they did it in Florida. On the other hand, it also makes sense why they don’t
Why don't they?
blickblocks because WDW gets more International visitors whereas Disneyland gets more locals. When you have more people coming from other countries, they expect to see the regular version and not the overlay.
Matt McIrvin but the WDW version has newer technology and an amazing interactive queue, which makes the overall experience better in Orlando
@@luuchoo93 Orlando's version is great, I love Cali a bit more.
I hope they add Hatbox Ghost in the Magic Kingdom.
This video could use an update with the DL version having a new queue line and updated loading area while the WDW version having the Hatbox Ghost in the endless hallway.
Did you ever notice a lot of the rooms would’ve been better as a walkthrough. The hallway makes a lot more sense when you don’t know what door to open
The only real element that I missed with the Florida Mansion compared to the California one, is the sensation of the stretching room actually moving as the elevator lowers. It really gives you a sense of unease that you can feel the room "stretching".
I’d love to see more of these types of videos - they are super interesting. Do you have any plans to cover Pirates of the Caribbean in any of your videos? It’s my favorite ride, and I’d love to see you cover it, if that interests you at all! I really enjoy your videos.
I would like to add that the reason the stretching room in the Florida version doesn't work as an elevator, and instead has a rising ceiling, is because that Florida is just barely above sea level, and so it is impossible to build underground, and so basements are impossible.
This is the same reason the living with the land pavilion at epcot is built upon a manmade hill, they wanted guests to enter the building on the top floor, and descend into the bottom floor, but a basement on ground level is impossible, so they built their own hill to dig into.
There's also no reason for it, since the Florida show building is inside the railroad tracks. Florida's Space Mountain does have some contrivances to get guests under the tracks going in and out, since it's an issue there.
Where Orlando is located you can absolutely build underground (Disney underground walkways for workers for instance).
Addie Marie In Orlando, you can not build underground. The Disney underground tunnels are built into man made hills as well. Most of Disney World is actually build on top of man made plataue, designed to allow them to include tunnels like that. It is not possible to build underground in Orlando. I know because I live in Orlando, and I'm currently studying to be a civil engineer.
Addie Marie the utilidors are actually the first floor of the magic kingdom
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I'd rather have the animatronic hitch hiking ghosts instead of the projected ones.
Despite personally having fond memories of the former, I admittedly find the latter funnier, mainly because of the more lively (or should I say undeadly) movements.
Dear Disney - Why replace classic animatronic pieces of art with projectors ? Look what happened to Kong at Universal... End the madness.
Agreed - Disney and Universal have become cheap and would rather have a worse but more cost-effective effect. Sick of rides being ruined by screens and projections. Animatronics are so much more impressive.
They're not just projections though. The ghosts interact with the guests. For example Gus will take your head off, blow it up like a balloon, and let it go so it flies about and then lands back on your neck.
Me too
You've seen the movie about "The Haunted Mansion", now ride the ride!
I miss Park Ride History like I miss my dad. Both of them went to find some milk or something and never came back.
Daddy Defunctland says hes coming back, but I don't know. Tired of getting my hopes up.
Very cool that they made doubles of the props with the knowledge of a second mansion on the horizon!
The one in Tokyo should have been given its own look instead of being exact replica of the one in Disney World.
Wassha 09 The one in Tokyo is actually an outdated replica of Orlando, and it doesnt have any of the additional features you find in Florida: interactive queue, magic band interactivity, or new technology
Same castle too. Yah I like it when things are unique and not copied. Also, the Haunted Mansion in Tokyo is in Fantasyland. It should have had it's own look to match the Bavarian style of Fantasyland.
@@lawrencepatricksingson8831 It was put in Tokyo's Fantasyland because ghost stories are more often seen as fairy tales in Japanese culture. Disney didn't know if Tokyo would be a success so, as according to the Disney+ Imagineering story, they did random "cookie cutter" designs from DL and WDW. That's why Adventureland has a New Orleans section, Space Mountain is the DL version, and the Haunted Mansion is the WDW version. It's really a thrown together park.
I agree!
I love the que at WDW Haunted Mansion!
forgot to mention the lack of the seasonal overlay, also given the overlay in the Disneyland version and the fact they said they wouldn't be doing an overlay to the world version shouldn't the world version say the same not the land version.
That was an awesome video! I liked the way you changed it up by focusing on the differences between the two mansions. Most Haunted Mansion videos feature pretty much the same "History of" facts, so this was a nice breath of fresh air! Very fun and unique!
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Great video! Looking forward to a future video discussing the differences between the other versions of the ride.
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Your videos are so well done! Very well researched, informative, and cool! Thank you for making these! :)
They didn't just make duplicates of all of the props. Imagineer Jason Surrell's book, The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering A Disney Classic, makes clear they made all interiors for both mansions--i.e. all elements of all scenes from top to bottom--simultaneously. Meaning, essentially, they are BOTH the first Haunted Mansion. Unlike any other Disney headliner, the East Coast and West Coast Haunted Mansions don't draw from each other or build on each other or improve on each other. With the exception of space allowing one to be longer than the other and geology not allowing one to have an actual elevator, they essentially are each other.
My issue with the Florida mansion is that you barely see the Mansion. The line is behind the big gates and then you're walking underneath big covered walkways so there's no apprehension as you get closer as there is at Phantom Manor or California. It feels disconnected.
I'd say it was mostly meant to be viewed and noticed from across the water. Giving the impression of being foreboding and creepy. Then its kind of already lingering in the back of your mind before you even head over to the mansion... This was my experience, when I was 7 anyway, and I remember the anticipation and butterflies in my chest fondly.
There’s a reason for that. Most of it can only be seen from either across the River or just prior to the queue line. And with the Florida rain, it makes it look pretty darn creepy, large, and imposing. Looking at it, you can tell it’s not a “house” like DL’s is, but large gothic stone castle mansion. Remember, nothing is left to chance with Disney. There’s a reason for every little plan and detail. A lot was learned from the mistakes of DL (not that they’re “mistakes” 😉)... there’s a reason WDW is the flagship of the Disney empire.
Seconded. Disney seems to favor the Florida setup for other attractions, though. Tokyo HM does the same thing, but Phantom Manor does not. Mystic Manor in HK is also entered from below.
I love CA for that reason - you actually enter the building in question from the front doors. It adds to the ambiance.
I know from experience. I went there once in Nov.1995.
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It’s already been commented on, but you forgot to mention the Sinister 11, the portraits whose eyes follow you. Seven of them are in the loading area, two before you get to the stairs, Medusa is still in the hallway but she morphs now, and one is between the Grand Hall and Attic.
I’m still surprised the Hatbox ghost hasn’t been brought to WDW version.
I would like to see that added, as well as the projections blast scenes on Big Thunder.
They still have the og Hitchhiking ghosts in the Disneyland version. At least they did a year ago.
On a Spring break long long ago [before fingerprinting] we managed to position ourselves at the end of a group, late at night when the HM was running slowly. We hopped off and toured the backstage from catwalks to under the graveyard or seance room.
Nowadays that can get you permanently banned for life, so don't do it. But in 1986 it was a BLAST. Then I got a job which took me to LA, so I got to do some self guided backstage touring of the Anaheim HM as well. Great fun! Super old theatre tricks, and it's all just a big wooden set in a giant soundstage / warehouse.
Great video!
I've got to say being a 90s kid riding the haunted Mansion here in Florida to it's new updated version...I'm not a big fan of the Constance character...I liked the more ghostly version vs. Constance made it seem a little creepier. The Constance character reminds me of cheap horror film slasher movies lol
i thought the reason they put in Constance was because of the early 2000 movie with Eddy Murphy
totally agree, she may be named Constance, but her voice and face look way too contemporary as well.
Happy 50th anniversary to the Haunted Mansion!
I only went on The Haunted Mansion ride at Disney World and from watching the videos I love Disney World so much better .Loved this ride though went on it in winters of 85 amd 86.
Dude STFU and bow down to Disneyland the real Disney attraction the one in Florida is just an imitation
Something about your voice gives me a Rod Serling vibe. Great video!
From the looks of it I'd say the architectural style of the Florida mansion is not Gothic, but Elizabethan.
Yeah, the latticework pattern in the window leadwork and decorative chimneys are most certainly mock Elizabethan features. That being said, the overall form of the mansion, with its high peaked gables, along the smaller details, like the wrought iron conservatory and rooftop ornaments, firmly place it in the early Gothic revival movement.
I never knew the Florida mansion and the California one looked different lol
When I went to Disney World on July 4th weekend back in 84 they added an additional story line to the Haunted Mansion ride by having cast members act like a rouge employee had taken over the ride, does anybody else remember this?
One thing I really miss from the Florida ride is back before the 2007 refurb, instead of the hallway of portraits that changed with the lightning strikes, it originally had a narrow hallway with the Sinister 11 portraits that had glowing eyes that followed you. It used to creep me out as a kid.
I like the one in Orlando better. The mansion seems more spooky on the outside, and I like the additional scenes like the infinite stairs, the piano room, and the library. I do wish we had the hatbox ghost. Maybe for the 50th in 2021!
didn't talk about old watchin eyes portraitsss
An amazing informed video
Crump Manor
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Gracey Mansion
It's 12:30 in the morning and I have a final in 7 hours. HELP ME!
Your rooming stretching? Whuch part? The ceiling or the bottom? In whcih case, when you walk into the hallway, ytou're teleported to the hall of portaits (if Disneyworld, it's the doom buggies!)
What's that video at 8:43? "At the DEAD concert"..lol!
I love the stairway room! It's so cool!
Disney's World's haunted mansion needs a Hat Box ghost.
Great content.
how does the paris version of these compare? edit: nevermind, hadn't seen the end of the video yet..
Phantom Manor is so good. Frontierland in DLP, in general, is more interesting than other counterparts because there is a larger story tying multiple rides together.
The track layout of PM is basically just that of Disneyland but with modified scenes.
There is something really cool (but inconsistent) enabled by projection in the new FL hitchhiking ghost scenes. The ride has the ability to detect rider identities (presumably through MagicBands) and customize the projected image. I rode it a few years back and the ghost for our DoomBuggy erected a tombstone with both of our names on it. Seeing our names in the mirror with the ghost was instantly delightful. However, more recently I've ridden it again, again wearing a MagicBand, and did not get any personalization. We both were thrilled the previous time when it did happen, but we are also fanatics (engineer + artist & former cast member, multiple visits most years, multiple parks) so maybe we are outliers. It's possible some people thought it was too personal / creepy.
:39 holy cow, look how small the trees are in those early shots of the DW version of Haunted Mansion!!!
I personally prefer Disneyland’s due to many reasons. The first, and most obvious is it’s historical value. Other reasons include it’s more elaborate wallpaper, wainscoting, and intertwined design elements (the same lion corbels in three places, similar window designs, etc...) It also more closely adheres to the three act structure. Frightening sounds THEN strange images. This concept was ditched at WDW when they decided to include the decomposing portrait effect. I also enjoy how in the DL Version you walk around the entire house and enter through the back door. In WDW you enter through the side of a hill and never fully appreciate the manor grounds.
This is was just my personal opinion. Both are amazing rides!
Don’t forget the Hatbox Ghost:)
Crafty Fox Yes, and I absolutely love the Plantation house design!
@Crafty Fox Exactly why I love it (but I almost as much love Disney WOrld's, too)
I think Magic Kingdom should have a hatbox ghost! What do you think?
It should.
When it came to duplicating them for WDW..there were three dupes of the stretching room and pictures, since two stretching rooms exist in each park.:-)
Because Disneyland it is in New Orleans square so it has to be that style while there is NO Orleans square in Disney world instead liberty square/street so they need to make it like liberty style
Always a must see attraction no matter which park you go to.
6:58 Animatronics are expensive to maintain and have a higher tendency to malfunction, so I guess that's why they changed it.
Keep the videos coming!
new orleans square is in disneyland and liberty sqaure is in walt disney world!
Loved it
The portrait hall at WDW is a brand-new addition. it's an upgrade from the original portrait hall, redone only a few years ago long *after* the 2007 addition of the Escher-style staircases. The original portraits just had cut out eyes that followed you, and no windows. The Hall of Mirrors changes are not projected onto the mirrors. They are simply video screens behind the mirrors, which are now clear glass. The guest images are now live camera feeds to simulate the reflection and help the computers map where to place the animated ghosts. Another change from the original are many of the vocals in the graveyard jamboree. Several at WDW were inexplicably replaced in the 2007 rehab, while Disneyland still uses the original vocals. Check out videos of the Tokyo Disneyland version. It was an exact copy of the Florida Mansion, except for the Japanese Ghost Host. It has remained unchanged, and gives us a look at what the Florida Mansion was like when it opened in 1971 (with the exception of one small Corridor of Doors effect that is not in any of the other Mansions).
What's inside the actual mansion part in Fl? Is it just a facade?
It's mostly just facade yes, you walk in underneath the left side of the mansion but you aren't really under the facade for long.
"Do you believe the Haunted Mansion is better in California or in Florida?"
The answer to that question is...yes.
my grandpa worked on the original in 67 when they started converting to the omnimover
Brittney Walsh very neat to hear, Brit!
Hey, nice to hear!
You should do one of these for Disney world and Disneyland Paris’ rock ‘n’ roller coaster
The one in Paris isn't long for this world, apparently--the coaster is staying but it's getting an Iron Man re-theme.
You should do rockin rollercoaster
Do the history of SPLASH MOUNTAIN DISNEYLAND (-1989)
Then do the difference between SPLASH MOUNTAIN at DISNEYLAND and DISNEY WORLD
I've Been On The Haunted Mansion Dark Ride At Disneyland Resort In Anaheim Near Los Angeles In The United States Of America Back In Easter 2016. Thanks Mate. X
its funny because the house is Disneyland is based off of the Shipley Lydecker Mansion in Baltimore which is closer to Florida than to california, and the Disney World house which is in western Pennsylvania is closer to Disneyland. its like the theming and the locations should have been switched, or maybe they meant to do it that way so that California could experience the one culture vs the other.
chuck Suter lol western pa is also way closer to florida than it is to california
Pretty sure Western Pennsylvania is still miles closer to Florida than to California.
I love this ride so much.
Between the two US mansions, I firmly believe the California one is better simply because the set up before getting in the Doom Buggie is creepier. In California, when you're waiting in the foyer there's an inaudible hum caused by the stretching elevator which makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and because we don't have the changing portrait it makes everything else that comes after so bizarre. Then you get into the stretching room where, because ours is an elevator, you have that slight hum mixed with the walls stretching and the floor actually moving (which you can kind of feel) which is really trippy and messes with your head. Then you have the long hallway before the load area (which is supposed to be in limbo) where you still have the previously mentioned hum but you also have the lightning outside the window mixed with the changing portraits which you have more time to look at than you do in the Florida version all of which comes together to become very unsettling and super creepy. I feel like the Florida version looses a lot of that by having a changing portrait before you get into the stretching room and by having the load area be right after the stretching room and be styled to look like a random hallway in the house. To me, that makes ours in California the better one. But none of them compare to Phantom Manor.
Some more reasons in favor of the California Mansion:
-The first, and most obvious is it’s historical value.
- It has more elaborate wallpaper, wainscoting, and intertwined design elements (the same lion corbels in three places, similar window designs, etc...)
-It also more closely adheres to the three act structure. Frightening sounds THEN strange images. This concept was ditched at WDW when they decided to include the decomposing portrait effect.
-In the DL Version you walk around the entire house and enter through the back door. In WDW you enter through the side of a hill and never fully appreciate the manor grounds.
This is was just my personal opinion. Both are amazing rides!
I haven't seen the others besides California yet but I love it, it has always been my favorite ride going all the way back to the 1970's. When I was a kid it just felt real to me. And Hi!
Taylor Romano actually, the WDW has newer technology and an amazing interactive queue, not to mention a whole store dedicated to the attraction. So the attraction itself is objectively newer and better in Orlando, and the overall experiencie is more complete there. California has the Halloween overlay of course, but in general Orlando is the best
luuchoo G Disneyland’s also has a store. In fact it has a store AND a stand AND a seasonal cafe. Also, Disneyworld‘s new additions have been very controversial within the Disney community. It is highly objectionable whether they are a good additions or a bad ones.
luuchoo G Disneyland’s has a store too. 🤦🏻♀️
As far as Haunted Mansion goes lets hope they don't change it. It's a shame, they've ruined Pirates already.
Cool :)
Always had Haunted Mansion as a concept from Disney as my favorite. Always been to the Orlando because of me living in Georgia. Never been to the Disneyland original Haunted Mansion YET. But that one is my favorite because of the New Orleans style mansion Walt went with. But I have the Orlando one close to me because of the 3 or 4 times I've been in it. And I like how Disney did the Eastern type of mansion for Orlando and the New Orleans style for the original.
You forgot to mention the haunted mansion holiday being only at Disneyland not WDW
Luigi Fan1 It’s also on the Tokyo one.
I miss when the paintings eyes followed you once you were on the ride
Normally I prefer Anaheim’s attractions over Orlando’s, but Haunted Mansion is an exception. I like Orlando’s Haunted Mansion slightly more because the ride is longer.
The Florida version wipes the floor with the California version
how so?
This
I’m confused. You say more changes can be made to the Florida Haunted Mansion. But then the Anaheim version gets switched out to Nightmare Before Christmas for half of the year.
I love the original Haunted Mansion, I think it's awesome and when I think of the Haunted Mansion, in my mind I see the one at Disneyland. But I have to say, as far as looks go, WDW has it beat. That large brick mansion just looks scary. I read on another site, that when Tokyo was built they went with the WDW style architecture as opposed to the Disneyland antebellum look, because the Imagineers felt it was more imposing and just looked more like what you think of as a typical haunted house.
Can you do the history from Pardise Pier to Pixar Pier
You forgot to mention the madam leota statue that blinks outside of the magic kingdom. The haunted mansion music also plays in the line at magic kingdom. At Disneyland it does not. You can also hear the howling dog at magic kingdom. At Disneyland you cannot. Oh and madam leota floats a different way at Disneyland in more of a side to side motion. At magic kingdom she floats up and down. And you forgot to mention the eyes right after the stair case scene at magic kingdom. Those eyes turn into the eye wall paper in the corridor of doors. And the stretching room scene is also slightly different. At Disneyland the hanging body scene lasts about eight seconds when at magic kingdom it only lasts about three seconds. You also forgot to mention the little madam leota room present in magic kingdom right after the hitchhiking ghosts. At Disneyland she is present on the escalator. The trees in the graveyard scene at Disneyland have faces. At magic kingdom they do not. Great video by the way man!
Spoonful for You sounds a little bias but okay
Can you do the History of California Screamin
The only aspect of the attraction that I truly prefer in the CA mansion is the Hatbox Ghost. Other than that the FL mansion is superior. This is looking at the rides themselves and not taking into account what was built first and who directly worked on them.
i disagree the Phantom Manor in Disney Paris is way better
Who is that at the end?
wish i was able to experience the hitchhiking ghosts as animatronics...my first time riding the mansion was last year
Would love to see a video on the differences between the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom Pirates of the Caribbean rides. I went to the Disneyland version first and was disappointed in the Magic Kingdom ride. It seemed much less immersive and more of a ride rather than a "fantasy". Thanks!
They’ve got such a video. Check it out!
Why no mention of Disneyland’s Nightmare Before Christmas overlay?
The one in Paris blows the other two out of the water (world and Cali)
Cihan Erkli I actually didnt like the Paris version, and I think both Orlando and California are better
@@luuchoo93 Phantom Manor rules, can't wait for the new version.
Er Kci Never been to the one in Paris and agree.
Imagineer bro is all.
"i got the idea off a poster i had in college, i think it was called,"crazy stairs"
One question I always have is, what exactly is in the Mansions? The showroom is behind/under the house but what is in the house?
I like the Florida mansion but both are amazing rides
what i don't understand is why does Disneyland version remain mostly the same whereas Pirates of the Caribbean got messed around the most over the years and Walt had his hands on it from beginning to end
Are you going to make a video about Phantom Manor when it reopens?