As an Irish railway modeller I have watched Hornby over the years continuously try to get a different result by making the same models. Toy trains are gone. Collectors models are the new hobby. You can run them and enjoy the excellent detail and also display them. Hornby are doomed unless they wake up and smell the coffee. That means getting up early and beating the competition. Highly detailed and reliable models are the way forward. And a great way for a company to stay in business.
What they seem to forget is that there are lot of us modellers who have the stock we need and buy mainly consumables, more scenery and items such as people, road vehicles etc.
Is Hornby even worth Roasting ! it roasts itself which its own releases.... im glad I model European stuff as far more exciting and they bring out more interesting items.
Hornby are not the manufacturer they were, they continue to raid the Lima collection gifted to them 24 years ago, every now and then they produce a half decent locomotive, their coaches are worth a look at especially when they get discounted, when it comes to superior models the European models are levels above the British stuff and always will be because the British manufacturers are penny pinchers that bring out models to suit the few and not the majority, low volume manufacturers like Accurascale whom produce enough to meet a quota, this fuels the secondhand market which has shocking prices!
On the Black Prince, its their new tooling the one that came out in 2022ish, just reskinned. Its not the old Triang tooling that had the mass produced evening star.
Hornby could have simple saved their time by just saying "The business is pissing cash so there is no moneg for new tooling so we are just going to try and raise cash from our oldest and most crap tooling".
I know the point of the video is to incite a response from the viewer, and you've succeeded. I just don't get the need to 'roast' a recolour. Should models *only* be available in their year of manufacture and never thereafter? Never in new liveries? There's plenty to actually have a go at in this catalogue, this seems like a ridiculously misplaced criticism which just makes you look out of touch, whiney, and - to be honest - not somebody who understands the target market for any of this. Therefore, an invalid critic. It's a net positive that manufacturers continue using existing molds and offering more decorations. This maintains the availability of spares, allows more people to own the models (hint: not everybody was *alive* or *old enough* to enjoy some models at their original release...), and reduces the second-hand price for the models, which keeps the hobby more affordable for everybody. Just try buying a rapido J70 - literally impossible to break into the market for them now that their original - and only - run is over. Second hand market is an expensive shambles and that's an absolute shame for anybody who didn't have the cash to invest upon release.
I've got a 1980's Ford Escort that I've painted blue and has a Texaco sticker on the side - yours for the same price as a brand new top of the range Merc. Interested?
@@LocomotionMotionNEW yeah nah mate, that's not how this works and your analogy isn't analogous. Like, I understand. You're saying "the difference in quality between a tarted up (and manufactured today, using the same old parts) 1980's Ford Escort and a Merc is the same as a 2004 tooling A4 and a modern loco. But that's disingenuous. The difference in quality of drive mechs and detail of parts is not that drastic between a recoloured A4 from 2004 and a modern Tornado. They're perfectly acceptable models by modern standards. And if your only value for a model is 'lots of tech, newest, shiniest, most detailed' - then you don't understand the market. People are modelling railways. The models have *more* value for representing a prototype than they do for their recency or tech - and recolours allow people modelling different eras to be able to buy an existing model which suits their modelling requirements. Perhaps if your only goal is to collect the newest and shiniest things and run a terrier with nuclear flask wagons on a floor-oval, then sure, the recency has more value to you. Then you might point to tech - DCC smells and sounds and DCC nan in the 2nd class carriage - and I honestly don't care. If you want DCC for your floor oval of haphazard new stock, go for it. The value of the models, for the majority of the market, is derived from more factors than 'it's new!'.
If Hornby continues on its way down the toilet(lavatory) Simon Kohler will be looking for a new job selling the 'Big Issue', the models are too expensive to buy in this cost of living crisis. One of their train packs can pay for a months gas and electric ,or four tanks of petrol for the family car.
The Queen Adelaide royal saloon looks promising, but there isn’t much from the range that I care about. I’d love them to tackle some pre-grouping railways that no one else has made, e.g. the Furness Railway, North Staffordshire Railway or Hull & Barnsley.
Yes the jinty needs a retool and they should have reused the original tooling for Connie and the rest of the 0-4-0T. The rest of the locomotives and rolling stock is fine. I love the new tooling terriers and the liveries that they have done.
I'm a heretic as I can't see the point of Locomotion at all. It's just a novelty purchase and nothing else. If you want to go back to an earlier era then locos like the LNWR Cornwall in it's original configuration with the boiler down between the frames and the rebuilt version as it is preserved and Cramptons but not Locomotion or Tiger.
I put in advanced order for a loco (Lady Edith) in 2021.... They still haven't bothered producing it!!! No new tooling needed either, so what's the hold up, Hornby?
As an Irish railway modeller I have watched Hornby over the years continuously try to get a different result by making the same models. Toy trains are gone. Collectors models are the new hobby. You can run them and enjoy the excellent detail and also display them. Hornby are doomed unless they wake up and smell the coffee. That means getting up early and beating the competition. Highly detailed and reliable models are the way forward. And a great way for a company to stay in business.
I've spent more time on GNER HST's than any other train, so I definitely approve of that. The Beatles stuff is utter crap though.
Really what planet are you on ….
What they seem to forget is that there are lot of us modellers who have the stock we need and buy mainly consumables, more scenery and items such as people, road vehicles etc.
Is Hornby even worth Roasting ! it roasts itself which its own releases.... im glad I model European stuff as far more exciting and they bring out more interesting items.
Hornby are not the manufacturer they were, they continue to raid the Lima collection gifted to them 24 years ago, every now and then they produce a half decent locomotive, their coaches are worth a look at especially when they get discounted, when it comes to superior models the European models are levels above the British stuff and always will be because the British manufacturers are penny pinchers that bring out models to suit the few and not the majority, low volume manufacturers like Accurascale whom produce enough to meet a quota, this fuels the secondhand market which has shocking prices!
I live overseas, but am a big fan of British trains. In saying that I wish there was British HO instead of OO.
On the Black Prince, its their new tooling the one that came out in 2022ish, just reskinned. Its not the old Triang tooling that had the mass produced evening star.
Hornby could have simple saved their time by just saying "The business is pissing cash so there is no moneg for new tooling so we are just going to try and raise cash from our oldest and most crap tooling".
The Ringfield motor was around in the 1960's!!
I’m actually looking forwards to the midland compound set as someone on Etsy makes kits to convert the compound into a highland railway 4-4-0
And old celesorty coaches look nice
I know the point of the video is to incite a response from the viewer, and you've succeeded.
I just don't get the need to 'roast' a recolour. Should models *only* be available in their year of manufacture and never thereafter? Never in new liveries? There's plenty to actually have a go at in this catalogue, this seems like a ridiculously misplaced criticism which just makes you look out of touch, whiney, and - to be honest - not somebody who understands the target market for any of this. Therefore, an invalid critic.
It's a net positive that manufacturers continue using existing molds and offering more decorations. This maintains the availability of spares, allows more people to own the models (hint: not everybody was *alive* or *old enough* to enjoy some models at their original release...), and reduces the second-hand price for the models, which keeps the hobby more affordable for everybody.
Just try buying a rapido J70 - literally impossible to break into the market for them now that their original - and only - run is over. Second hand market is an expensive shambles and that's an absolute shame for anybody who didn't have the cash to invest upon release.
I've got a 1980's Ford Escort that I've painted blue and has a Texaco sticker on the side - yours for the same price as a brand new top of the range Merc. Interested?
@@LocomotionMotionNEW yeah nah mate, that's not how this works and your analogy isn't analogous.
Like, I understand. You're saying "the difference in quality between a tarted up (and manufactured today, using the same old parts) 1980's Ford Escort and a Merc is the same as a 2004 tooling A4 and a modern loco. But that's disingenuous. The difference in quality of drive mechs and detail of parts is not that drastic between a recoloured A4 from 2004 and a modern Tornado. They're perfectly acceptable models by modern standards.
And if your only value for a model is 'lots of tech, newest, shiniest, most detailed' - then you don't understand the market. People are modelling railways. The models have *more* value for representing a prototype than they do for their recency or tech - and recolours allow people modelling different eras to be able to buy an existing model which suits their modelling requirements. Perhaps if your only goal is to collect the newest and shiniest things and run a terrier with nuclear flask wagons on a floor-oval, then sure, the recency has more value to you.
Then you might point to tech - DCC smells and sounds and DCC nan in the 2nd class carriage - and I honestly don't care. If you want DCC for your floor oval of haphazard new stock, go for it. The value of the models, for the majority of the market, is derived from more factors than 'it's new!'.
Good to see this back! If only they did an Ivor The Engine with sound and dragon.
If Hornby continues on its way down the toilet(lavatory) Simon Kohler will be looking for a new job selling the 'Big Issue', the models are too expensive to buy in this cost of living crisis. One of their train packs can pay for a months gas and electric ,or four tanks of petrol for the family car.
The Queen Adelaide royal saloon looks promising, but there isn’t much from the range that I care about. I’d love them to tackle some pre-grouping railways that no one else has made, e.g. the Furness Railway, North Staffordshire Railway or Hull & Barnsley.
Yes the jinty needs a retool and they should have reused the original tooling for Connie and the rest of the 0-4-0T. The rest of the locomotives and rolling stock is fine. I love the new tooling terriers and the liveries that they have done.
I WILL be buying those Beatles pack, truly a beautiful masterpiece!
I'm a heretic as I can't see the point of Locomotion at all. It's just a novelty purchase and nothing else. If you want to go back to an earlier era then locos like the LNWR Cornwall in it's original configuration with the boiler down between the frames and the rebuilt version as it is preserved and Cramptons but not Locomotion or Tiger.
I wonder if Hornby will ever do a Mr. Bean themed set or train pack, the possibilities would be endless
Hornby recycle the same old 💩 over and over and over, and the Beatles stuff is shockingly embarrassing
I think the Beatles stuff maybe reasonably popular outside the UK. I know 2 people in the USA who have bought them. I know small sample size and that.
I put in advanced order for a loco (Lady Edith) in 2021.... They still haven't bothered producing it!!! No new tooling needed either, so what's the hold up, Hornby?
I listen to the Beatles good music.. some of the Hornby stuff is good actually.. matter of opinion..
A class 385 would be very popular! I'd definitely buy a few.
too limited.....only one livery
but Hornby can just magic up liveries! They'll have a Beatles 385 to add to your collection :-D
I love the Beatles locomotion motion
As it happens these beatles inspired models are very popular.
its good to have you back
Ooh are they going to reintroduce 'spikey' couplings and shorty coaches that warped like bananas?
I've purchased several A4 locomotives, but none of them were MALLARD.
Lawnmower death 040s get my vote!
There's a blast from the past! Loved Lawnmower Deth!
They aren't gonna release a Z class are they 😭 oh well, thank god im making my own O gauge Z class that works on Lionel track
I don't buy any hornby anymore, better models out there and cheaper, looks like hornby are hanging on by their fingernails, Chinese poo now.
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There is nothing wrong with the re tooled Britannia class loco its hole lot better than your one god is there no pleasing you.
If Hornby really wanted something special, they would make N scale.
They ventured into TT120 for this exact purpose.