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- Here are some of the differences I found between the 710 and 7300. Excuse the gaffes, sometimes it can be a little confusing when switching between two different radios. I botched showing how the IC-7300 filters work so I redid that portion on another video. • Retake IC-7300 Filters
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It comes down to this: The Yaesu has better noise reduction and is superior in this respect. The Icom has a better user interface, and is easier to use in this respect. If ease of use is more important, the Icom is the better radio. If noise reduction and/or sound quality is more important, then the Yaesu is the better radio. Personally, noise reduction/quality is much more important than ease of use, so that means Yaesu is the choice for me.
I would disagree. Having used both side by side. Whatever I could hear with one, I could hear with the other. That being said, the FT-710 is gone, I traded it for another IC-7300. I have several different kinds of radios. If I could only have one radio, it would be an IC-7300.
Many say the same. Much newer technology
Im an icom purist and love the ft-710, I find the user interface simple and to the point. The 7300 is an awesome radio but its design is 6 years older than the 710 which is an eternity in electronics.
Ich finde denn FT 710 für die bessere Wahl zum einen im TX die Modulation viel besser als der Icom wo man denkt das einer die Nüsse zwickt auch die RX Audio ist auch nicht das wahre dazu noch mit der Uhr und Batterie ! Deswegen denn Yaesu das bessere Radio und Bedienung ist einfach wenn man weis wie ! Zu Notch ist der Yaesu auch besser nicht kompliziert !
As a cow operator this is the kind of info I need in choosing a new rig. Thank you sir.
Excellent video Scott!
Thanks, Paul. Both are good radios. I just finished a POTA activation using the FT-710 on CW. Works as advertised.
Sorry for what I say and sorry everyone for my bad English.
It seems to me that you have enough experience on the 7300 and not much on the 710. Some things you described as bugs have been fixed by the latest software, also there are things on the 710 and not the 7300 such as the wireless mouse and connection to a screen large exterior, these are things that today you can't do without! With so many selections still using only the buttons and the small screen of the apparatus for me given my no longer 'youthful' age are really frustrating and they are for others too. Noise reduction is absolutely better on the 710 especially with the latest firmware. The 7300 is an excellent radio but after 6 years it is time to update it.
Regards
Hello Antonello. Your English is very good. Please understand, I use this radio as a field/portable radio, and some of the things you mention I wouldn't use. As far as filtering. I compared the IC-7300 with an FTDX10 which I own and anything I could hear on the FTDX10 I could also hear on the IC-7300. I will be using the FT-710 over the next couple of months and I will continue to report what I find. Thank you for stopping by.
" wireless mouse and connection to a screen large exterior, these are things that today you can't do without! "
I CAN do without. Max output resolution on my DX10 is 800x600. That was OK 28 years ago when I was running Windows 95, but it looks horrendous on a large LCD monitor. I unplugged the monitor after a few weeks because it's a useless feature - and I have poor eyesight!
I tried four mice and non of them worked. Then I went back to using the 7100 for remote work at the other end of the shack - because it actually works!
@@RF_Burns Thanks for your comment! I don't use a mouse or a monitor with any of my radios. I guess I'm old school. :)
@@RF_Burns Eh, but it's not that you need to connect a 37 "TV !
Even a 14" is always better than the tiny and uncomfortable 4.3-5".
800x600 is sufficient for Yaesu info and graphics, it doesn't display a google map! And then the mouse and keyboard are just as comfortable.
And however the technology has moved on, it goes without saying that an RTX from 10 years ago is better than today's. I believe that you too are addicted to 7100 and close the door to other news.
@@c64new I own an 818, 891, dx10, 7100, 7300, 705, 590SG. How am I closing the door to anyone?
The point that I was making is that I don't miss not having display output or mouse control on the other radios, because they are not a necessary feature - especially when they do not work very well in practice.
I have owned both of these radios. They each have their perks and quabbles. As being just a casual HF'er I prefer the Icom due to ease of use and I have always preferred Icom programming. It is just so much more fluid. Yaesu programmer can be quirky at times. However, once you get past the first level of programming the Icom is a lot like the Yaesu. I do believe that the Yaesu is a little quieter than the Icom. I do love some of the features on the new Yaesu. Having the ability to connect an external monitor and a mouse are awesome, especially as my eyes get older. I still fee like the Icom has a better scope and waterfall, but I do enjoy Yaesu's offering of different colors on the scope. I also like the big menu page on the Yaesu that I did not like at first. But, when you pull up the Yaesu menu page you can see all of the settings at a glance. The downside though is that you have to scroll through the page to get to what you want. This is where the mouse is a Godsend. I love the scope on the Yaesu compared to the Icom, but on the Icom for digital modes the multimeter display is a must. Doing FT8 you can see your SWR, ALC and power output and drain all at one time. On the Yaesu you can only see one of these at a time. If you have it on ALC you won't see that suddenly your SWR has shot up over 3. I did have that problem running FT8 on my FT-710. That is why I have gone back to an Icom for my digital modes. They are both good radios. I just wish Icom would update the 7300, but that probably won't happen. I am sure they want me to just buy the 7610. Thanks for posting.
Lets put it this way. The Icom 7300 has an 8 year history of reliability. Theres a lot to be said for a radio thats been very successful over that type of time period. Quite a number of very good reviews on eham on them. The Yaesu ft dx 10 is closing in on about 3 years now. Thats not quite enough time for my confidence levels just yet. Some software issues seem to have been solved but I am noticing some returns on them. I like to buy radio's for the long haul. I know the 7300 has been designed for that. I also think the user interface is by far a big winner. Icom support via Michigan is pretty solid. Im open to seeing more on the Yaesu products as Yaesu has made moves ahead in receiver technology. If I were to make a choice today though I would pick the 7300. Lots of bang for the buck and an admirable 8 year record of reliability. We can talk Sherwood numbers all day long. However Mr. Sherwood is not going to be operating my radio is he? :)
Tnx Joseph. I still have the FTDX10 and it's an okay radio. Still, if I could only have one radio, it would be the IC-7300. The Rob Sherwood numbers that everyone uses don't tell the whole story.
@@KK4Z FTDX-10 has much better UI than FT-710, fortunately. FT-710 is no way for me because of the controls. I have however both 7300 and DX10. I am about to add the 300Hz filter. I think that the Yaesu has a better receiver and maybe DSP (DNR vs NR is however a question of personal preference, but AFP is a nice feature). I also like the external screen output. IC has smaller display resolution, but the waterfall is slihtly better implemented (the scroll mode and fixed edges and the color scheme... in my opinion). I can sign the statement of IC's reliability, I have had no issue at all with Icoms over years (either 705, 7300 or 9700), but had issues with 991 and also found bugs in FT-DX10 in three months of operating it. However, I still like both my Icoms and also the FTDX-10. Will keep both.
@@ferdinandfrozenstein I still have the FTDX10 but my main radio at home is an IC-7610. Any heavy lifting is done with the Icom. The Yaesu is a backup and is used for casual CW. I have the 300 Hz filter and it is nice.
Does the 710 SDR have multi slice receive capability, like the Flex with simultaneous receive?
It does not.
I have a 7300 and love it, however, I just installed the ATAS 120 in the truck and seems like I should get an 710 or FTDx10 to use portable? How well does the tune in the 710,work with the ATAS? How well does the internal tuner itself work. I am considering getting rid of the 891 as well?
I am not a fan of the Yaesu tuner. It seems that it only works with Yaesu products. I normally use an LDG tuner and I could not get the 710 or the FTDX10 to work with it. Since I have been happy with the LDG for many years, I was not ready to fork out more money for the Yaesu. It shouldn't be a problem if you are already married into the Yaesu system. Using the LDG tuner with an Icom is plug and play.
So I am still torn between the FT-710 and the Icom IC-7300. I want to use it for FT-8/4/ and other data modes (to include winlink, packet, rtty, psk-31 and others) as well as SSB. I presently use the FT-891 but I can't on having issues with the signal link and the software. I just want to plug in the usb cable and that's it (for the data modes and CAT control). So how do you feel is the best for what I am looking for. A buddy of mine has the IC-7300 and I do like it. but the FT-710 is $100 less right now on sale.
Hi. When it comes to data modes in my opinion the IC-7300 is the better radio. It is easier to set up and you can full-screen the meters to see all of the parameters. However, the two radios are close enough that if you are married to one system or the other go with that. I suggest that you download the operator's manual for both radios and read through them. My preference is the IC-7300. You can look through my past TH-cam videos and see both radios in action. In my home QTH, the Icom is the data radio.
Thanks for the video and thanks for touching on the QSK of the rigs. May I ask about the switch time and noise of the relays when using full QSK? - I have the IC7300 and find it quite terrible (even with the PA relay switched off) I am considering the FT710, but are not sure about the QSK capabilities. As a comparison I have an FT991a and without the preamp on, the relay switching is very fast and very quiet, though not pin-diode switching.
Hello. Most of the time when I am operating CW with these rigs I am wearing headphones or earbuds (old ears). The relays may be a little quieter on the Yaesu. I few months back I traded the 710 for another 7300 and my buddy who has the 710 loves it on CW. I consider the 710 and the 7300 to be very comparable to each other. I got the second 7300 for EmComm purposes and compatibility with my other gear.
I would go for diods for QSK. With relays, it's always a noise, but also, I worry about their lifespan...
@@ferdinandfrozenstein Just learning about QSK. Which radios use diodes, only high end ones? Also, do a lot of ppl use "full break in" on HF/CW? I'm not sure why this would matter since I would imagine people just take turns sending and receiving?
@@musicalintuition Unfortunately, none of my radios use diods... So I don't want to kill the relays and use semi-break in. I think it's quite satisfying, but I am not a CW master. Sometimes in contests, the delay cuts off a bit of the response, since my rig is late to switch back to RX. For casual contacts, semi-break-in is just fine, one person's talking, then sends the callsigns and KN and that's the time for the other side... But advanced CW ops like more duplex, so I am wondering about that too. AFAIK, some Kenwoods, Elecrafts and also IC-7610 has diods. I have once tried the TS-2000X and found it disturbing, when hearing the band noise among my dits and dahs, I am used to the quietness of semi-break. But I think I can get used to...
@@ferdinandfrozenstein Thanks for the nice reply, that's very interesting! Not a subject you hear a lot about often. It never occurred to me that the rx sound between each dit could be distracting. That's a good point.
Own both. They are both great. 710 for POTA, 7300 for QTH. 73
Im not a fan boy of any of them but i wasn't terribly impressed with the 7300 but after 43 years as a ham it takes a lot to impress me.
Hi Neal, while not a Fan Boy per se, I do like the IC-7300. I've been a ham for over 28 years and what I have discovered, is Icom SDR's perform very well, if you set them up correctly. What you did on the old analog radios, doesn't always translate to an SDR. Thanks for visiting my channel.
Seems like the reviewer knows quite a bit about the Icom but very little about the features of the 710. I'd have to give this review a "zonk".
I'll take the zonk as it wasn't an in depth technical review. I treated it as an average user using it under average conditions. As I have said many times. Depending on your preference, either radio will serve you well.
will the YAESU FT-710 - 4 Pin Power Connector work on the icom 7300
Yes. They work for both and the FTDX10.
agree with you i have an ftdx 10 and a ic7300 and i think the icom is just a better radio at last a honest man
If I’ve owned a Toyota Sequoia for years and then got a Cadillac Escalade and was asked about ease of use, I think it would be very easy to say the Toyota was easier to use just because I know where every thing is instinctively from the years of use. This is the same for Icom/Yaesu. This comparison of ease of use, if truly a correct comparison, could only be valid if you had someone that did not know anything about either brand. Whatever brand you buy is going to be a great radio and in a little time either brand will be instinctively easy to use.
I had enough with icom 7300. The touch screen was not function suddenly.
The radio should have a built in off set for CW, my 7300 does and I leave it set at 700 hz, no need to monkey with anything, just tune in a station and start working them!
Does the clicking from QSK bother you? Do you always use full break in?
Let me 1st say that the Yasu does have a manual transmit button. It's called MOX.
You are right! I stand corrected. In a 120-page manual, they devoted one sentence to it and I missed it.
I have 2 x 7300 and also FTDX-10. Forget the Sherwood numbers - they are only applicable in multi station setups with RF in close proximity. In a "normal" operating environment where there are no strong nearby signals, they both hear equally well. But....the 7300 features, ease of use, user interface is WAY better. Both good rigs, I'm not selling either. Just the FTDX-10 is much better when you have a CB mobile operator parked near your driveway LOL
I agree 100%.
They are not humanly engineered, but according to Sherwood, they receive is top notch
Yes kinda. The Icom has a lower noise floor by a factor of 8 (Sherwood numbers). In real use, the two are about equal. What can be heard by one, can be heard by the other.
Well I own an FDTX10 and an icon 7300. I don't think the icon 7300 has a very low noise. Flturn down the Irish game sometime. And there's still a lot of noise to be heard.
If you turn down the RF game on the icom 7300. You will still see plenty of. Noise even with the RF gain turned down.
@@royfowler5637 The numbers come from Rob Sherwood.
I've got both these radios, the 7300 is a good radio and ergonomically great but the ft710 is way better radio especially the RX of course this is only my opinion😊
I think that if you used both radios with other operators nearby for situations like field day, you would see a large difference. The yaesu filters the input before looking at the selected band. The icom on the other hand looks at the entire band and nearby operators will desensitize the icom, not so much for the yaesu. To use the icom in this manner you would need to add bandpass filters. You bring out good differences in the HMI or GUI's but not so much between the radios abilities.
Having had both radios for a while, they "hear" about the same. Both are SDR radios. I still use the 7300 during field day and when set up correctly, it does just fine. In another video I compared the 7300 to the FTDX10 during the CQWWDX CW contest and whatever I heard on one, I heard on the other. I feel the FT-710 and IC-7300 are equally yoked and either one will serve you equally well. The 7300 has the edge when it comes to CW and digital.
Press the DSP knob and turn it until you have the item you want to change. Press it and it blinks, then turn your knob to the desired value. Press it again. It stops blinking. Rotate the knob to another item and you do the same thing again. You were trying to rotate the knob when it was blinking. HTH and thanks.
I made it work eventually. However, with the 7300, I long press the NR button, twist the multi-function to the desired level, hit the back button on the screen and I am done. The 710 is a nice radio, but the ergonomics in the 7300 is too much better. Thanks for your comments.
Looks like the author is quite unfamiliar with both rigs.
I've been a yaesu man for a very long time but Icom does blow the dx10 away
I still have the FTDX10, I mainly use it for casual CW stuff. There are some things L like about the FTDX10 but, if I could only have one radio, it would still be the IC-7300.
Icom 7300! A lot easy to operate. 73!
Great video! de W2CSI
I like the 7300 better.
I'm still in my first days with the FT-710. I will give it a fair shake-out before I pass final judgment. In general with these radios, whichever system you are currently married to, there is no reason to cross over. From an EmComm perspective, I like knowing how to set up and run each brand of radio that might be found out in the field. I plan on using the radio for at least 6 months including taking it out into the field.
insomma qual'è meglio?
I prefer the IC-7300.
Need to learn radio before reviewing.
Lou. It's a long-term review. As I go along I will revise as necessary.
This video makes me seasick, buy a tripod man.
Sorry about that. Sometimes my videos (like this one) are impromptu and I use whatever I have on hand. 🙃
I would have the icom any day a lot better radio in my opinion
I just got back from a weekend POTA activation using the FT-710. IMHO the FT-710 and the IC-7300 are fairly compatible. I lean towards the IC-7300 but if you're a Yaesu guy, I wouldn't switch. I enjoy using both radios.
Great video! de W2CSI