How to Lose $5.5 Billion in 2 years

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    Lordstown Motors was poised to change the truck game with its groundbreaking Endurance EV pickup. The new company had a huge factory, hype and backing from General Motors. But then it all went wrong. What happened? How did the company lose so much consumer faith, and money, in just two years? We’re about to find out.
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  • @melwalshmtb9121
    @melwalshmtb9121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2802

    FINALLY! I can learn how to lose $5.5 billion, been really struggling to do so lately 😭

    • @sean6992
      @sean6992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Same

    • @muhammadwahyuhidayat21498
      @muhammadwahyuhidayat21498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another EV scandal is here got caught 5.5 billion dollars has been gone!!!!!!

    • @tanjoy0205
      @tanjoy0205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Facebook can teach you a thing or two.

    • @muhammadwahyuhidayat21498
      @muhammadwahyuhidayat21498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sean6992 another same for me

    • @MrMadmeads
      @MrMadmeads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I’ll take a billion please sir

  • @marzuq789
    @marzuq789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1853

    Absolutely love these mini documentaries. And with Nolan narrating em, these feel like amazing fireplace stories!

    • @TeranTheScrub
      @TeranTheScrub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      100%, I love getting ready for work listening to these dope wheelhouse stories

    • @brendanjordan3089
      @brendanjordan3089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You’re gonna love the podcast then

    • @matthewclark1529
      @matthewclark1529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @drtm1718
      @drtm1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fireplace, eh? I'm pretty sure most of us watch it while having our coffee and getting ready before work, substantial amount of us being on the toilet at some point. But I guess the toilet can be a fireplace too depending on what you had for dinner.

    • @danh7647
      @danh7647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easily accessible information laid out in a really nice format, I too love these videos!!

  • @quailman8760
    @quailman8760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +770

    I’m not surprised by this at all. A friend of mine worked as a fabricator/technician for them when they were the start up company called AMP. The stories he’s shared about working with their engineers and founders are just frustrating. For example, there was an issue they were stuck on for a few months and my friend came up with a excellent solution. He brought the idea to the team and engineers. They shut him down before he could finish explaining and said his idea would not work and not to make other suggestions because it’s not his place. A few weeks later an engineer came up with the same solution as my friend and ended up getting a huge bonus to his paycheck because of it. My buddy quit on the spot.

    • @pizzahut6537
      @pizzahut6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      damn i feel bad for your buddy. i hope he gets lucky sometime in the future he deserves a break

    • @huntguy3831
      @huntguy3831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      This is the problem with engineers and other people high up in a company. They view everyone below them as peasants and idiots. In their mind there is no possibility of them coming up with a solution to a problem. Companies that have their higher ups act that way and encourage it deserve to fail.

    • @quailman8760
      @quailman8760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@pizzahut6537Thanks, he’s doing well.

    • @quailman8760
      @quailman8760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@huntguy3831 It’s all too common. Companies need to start putting engineers and board members in the factory for a few weeks to better understand the manufacturing process.

    • @CaliViking8O5
      @CaliViking8O5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Technicians love to complain about the engineers . It's a hobby for them

  • @DrakeGrear
    @DrakeGrear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    A coworker came to me in late 2020 and told me I needed to invest in lordstown, that he’d already put in $15k and that I just HAD to get in on it too. I’m in the automotive industry and keep up on all the happenings with EV startups. Once I told him that lordstown didn’t have a working prototype and hadn’t even begun to sort their facility out(again, late 2020), he called me a hater then proceeded to HODL.

  • @fakacoon8864
    @fakacoon8864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +873

    My grandpa worked at the lordstown GM plant. My mom did in her 20s, my dad's uncle did as well! Such a big part of my family's history, and it's so great to hear Donut talk about it :)

    • @TheJackleOfWallStreet
      @TheJackleOfWallStreet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thank you to your family for literally making some of my favorite cars. God bless

    • @mrsirfordyt6137
      @mrsirfordyt6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Wait your grandpa also worked there!? My grandpa also did! We worked there for the Pontiac sunfire. Chevy Cavalier, Pontiac sunbird, maybe Cadillac crap? Get it

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Someone in the extended family at a family gathering was talking about how she worked there 20-30 minutes a day and would leave for the rest of her shift.
      One of the uncles went and traded in his chevy, came back with a Toyota. She wasn't happy.

    • @Giovanni_Litterini
      @Giovanni_Litterini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@scotcoon1186 That uncle was smart

    • @georgejungle138
      @georgejungle138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Giovanni_Litterini no he’s an unAmerican traitor

  • @evansnyder5948
    @evansnyder5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mr. Burns also sold the algorithm that Instagram uses to Instagram when it was independent from Facebook. He also sold apple the voice recognition software Siri uses. That is where he got the majority of his initial wealth.

  • @crxtodd16
    @crxtodd16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I remember doing some reading on Lordstown motors back when they first announced acquisition of the plant. EVERYTHING about them seemed sketchy and even blatantly phony from the get go. I'm genuinely surprised they actually made some prototype trucks.
    I can't believe there were people that actually took them seriously.

  • @aseron3
    @aseron3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Hey Nolan, absolutely love this show. Just wanted to let you know that "capex" is pronounced cap-ex, as in Capital Expenditure; those are funds to be invested in things like equipment or IP

    • @xNYCMarc
      @xNYCMarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yep and SPAC isn't "s", "p", "a", "c". It's pronounced "spack".

    • @davidhudson3001
      @davidhudson3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

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      @imamdeenyusuf3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @lezliewhicker8450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    • @dr.ervingalen1777
      @dr.ervingalen1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

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  • @jameswells9677
    @jameswells9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I played this video backwards so I could gain $5.5billion 💰

  • @domnylo
    @domnylo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Take a shot every time Nolan says “Lordstown”

    • @Director_Orson_Krennic
      @Director_Orson_Krennic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You trying to give us alcohol poisoning? Lmao

    • @rawhidelamp
      @rawhidelamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Death

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      El no

    • @THEGREENHELIUM
      @THEGREENHELIUM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao you tryna kill my liver saying that. 😆🤣😂💀

    • @402SHO
      @402SHO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imma take dabs I’ll check back in if I remember 🤣

  • @dylanlowers5236
    @dylanlowers5236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I live in the Youngstown Ohio area and this company was hyped up for years, going to be the next big electric company and save the local economy. Everyone saw through the Bs though. It was even more apparent when the owner lied to shareholders about how well the company was doing. Glad to see a large media group touching this situation

    • @phishphan49
      @phishphan49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol yup - not even the illustrious stan boney could spin it to the area - i live in Cleveland now & when the first put up the "ride with lordstown" banners in place of the cruz ones it made my trip on the turnpike to see my parents kinda confusing. ngl i didn't even know lordstown was a company for a very long time - i confused their logo for the polaris logo and just assumed that yup i've been to flordia, i can believe the demand for side by sides from boomers in those weird golf cart communities warranted purchasing the plant...

    • @ritdhar6579
      @ritdhar6579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electric vehicles are not made to boost the ecomony of towns. And forget about startups.
      I hope some good comany buys the facility and the workers live a better life and job.

    • @williamerazo3921
      @williamerazo3921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a Trump guy that didn’t want to lose those voters

    • @joeroganreviewexperience9964
      @joeroganreviewexperience9964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is it like in Youngstown I seen mansions there on internet for like 50-70 grand?

    • @diy_mushroomguy
      @diy_mushroomguy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeroganreviewexperience9964 Youngstown, Ohio can be pretty bad. Especially in some areas after dark. There's usually a shooting just about everyday on the news. Young kids with big balls doing just about whatever they want. I'm glad I don't have to live there. I'm like a half hour from there though.

  • @tjwatson0403
    @tjwatson0403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Mahoning Valley has been hit hard with deindustrialization. It started with steel in the 70s and 80s, then GE and Packard in the 2000s and now GM leaving.
    It used to be you could raise a family and live a comfortable life here. Now it's filled with despair and drugs.
    I hope my home improves.

  • @sean6992
    @sean6992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Is nobody going to talk about how much effort donut puts into their sponsorsips despite nobody actually watching them

    • @jeanmichaelarchbold4446
      @jeanmichaelarchbold4446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think most fan watch their ads cause they are so funny

    • @cafemochaaa
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    • @titythomas3833
      @titythomas3833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jeanmichaelarchbold4446 yeah, their ad is like the only ad I watch on TH-cam.

    • @Marc83Aus
      @Marc83Aus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean, people watch discovery plus.

    • @Quantum-
      @Quantum- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watch them. They're fucking great.

  • @QMaverick1
    @QMaverick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    As someone that lives in the Cleveland area, with family near Youngstown, I REALLY hope they get this figured out and actually succeed. That plant is a huge deal for the region, and the hub-motor powered truck idea is brilliant.
    I HOPE they figure it all out, but I'm not confident that they will :-(

    • @isailopez4132
      @isailopez4132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing thats good for the people ever succeeds in the land of the free anymore…
      Sadly our country runs on big corporations that always end up taking their manufacturing outside of our country o reduce costs to increase their profits..

    • @kingjasko
      @kingjasko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i still have faith

    • @DuvJones
      @DuvJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You know, I have been watching Lordstown Motors since the GM shutdown. It seemed rather fishy for the get-go and I wish given what I was hearing at the time that there was something to hope with. Lordstown Motors gave me nothing, other than a countdown to it's bankruptcy.
      If only for the people that are hoping that something comes out of this, I hope that its not another EV startup dud... But it is sounding alot like one.

    • @AdamUpMusic
      @AdamUpMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Foxconn 🍿

    • @R3AL-AIM
      @R3AL-AIM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They still won't sell great locally though. Those sales are out going down South and out West.... Or New York.

  • @SupraSav
    @SupraSav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Why did GM do this?" It's the same answer you will receive to any question related to a company, business, corporation - money.

    • @tankerd1847
      @tankerd1847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well what's the point of a company if it's not making money? It sucks GM had to let go of that plant but I would hope they learned a lesson from their government bailout to be a bit more careful with their money.

    • @joe4964
      @joe4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly it had a lot to do with the union that was there as well. UAW local 1112 was an extremely strong union to the point where some might say it was the best and strongest union. GM could have retooled the plant in order to produce the new Chevy blazer, but they elected to move production down to Mexico because it was cheaper. So yes you are correct about the money aspect of it, but what you won’t hear much about is how GM was tired of fighting with UAW local 1112 and shut down the plant as a cause of the union being so strong.

    • @ChrisCaramia
      @ChrisCaramia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joe4964 GM pulled a similar stunt with Buick City in the late-'90s. Sick of a loud local that triggered a nationwide strike, they shuttered & later demolished the complex.

  • @yaboymintz
    @yaboymintz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember driving past this whenever I'd go from Pittsburgh to Cleveland. Seeing the big Chevy Cruze sign get replaced with "Ride with Lordstown" but the plant never really did anything. I had no idea that this was even a company. I thought the "Ride with Lordstown" was just an attempt to get a new company to produce vehicles there.

  • @handlealreadytaken
    @handlealreadytaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    My grandfather worked there back in the 80's and early 90's when they made the Cavalier and Sunfire. The area is now a mini-Detroit after the auto industry moved production.

    • @Spike-sk7ql
      @Spike-sk7ql 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We are not even close to a mini Detroit. Yes the plant was a huge part of the economy, but Lordstown is a country town. The surrounding areas such as Youngstown already fell into shambles when the steel mills left. Still though, not even close to as bad as Detroit.

    • @evilpenguinson6808
      @evilpenguinson6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As someone who lives in the area, Youngstown and the surrounding region has a great startup incubator. The YBI (Youngstown Business Incubator) has Youngstown rated really high to start a business

    • @phishphan49
      @phishphan49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spike-sk7ql bruh warren was fucked when delphi left... this was just the nail. 2009/11ish - remember living on notrhside of yougstown, the petra ( gas station) sold "back to back per capita murder capitol of the world" t-shirts. i briefly had a job in downtown warren. the store i bought my smokes at was the first time i'd seen obvious daytime hookers, and not like... late afternoon. 10-11am type of daytime.
      yougstown is bouncing back but dont pretend like warren/lordstown aren't going to just rot like all of the other former factory towns one passes following route 7 down the river.

    • @stavl5122
      @stavl5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe parts of Youngstown are crap now…but Lordstown is doing fine.

    • @evilpenguinson6808
      @evilpenguinson6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stavl5122 especially with the TJX warehouse coming in

  • @ttano1117
    @ttano1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I am from Lordstown area. Hubbard, OH. It's honestly sad to see this happening. That place used to be the heart of Eastern Ohio, now it's just a parking lot with a couple cars you pass by on I-80.

    • @Spike-sk7ql
      @Spike-sk7ql 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I live 5 mins away from the plant. This guy is correct.

    • @russellulbrich8043
      @russellulbrich8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Spike-sk7ql I live 500 miles away, and I've driven there to do my due diligence and can confirm that there were hundreds of cars in the parking lot during working hours. . .and very few afterwards. So, yes, the lot is empty when the team goes home.

    • @ChevySpeedAddict
      @ChevySpeedAddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm in Brookfield just up the street from Hubbard. I toured the Lordstown plant when it was booming producing the Cobalt. It's so sad that the EV startup failed as it was hoped to revitalize the area's in-the-toilet economy. I don't have high hopes for the future of the plant.

    • @ttano1117
      @ttano1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ChevySpeedAddict I just moved to Hubbard from Masury! Grew up in Sharon. It's sad, only resson we moved here from Florida in the 90s was for my dad to get job there. He never got in, so we sank to the Valleys poverty.

    • @ChevySpeedAddict
      @ChevySpeedAddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ttano1117 I was born and raised in Farrell and moved to the Brookfield/Masury area a few years ago. It's hard to leave because my wife and I need to care for our elderly parents so we don't want to move far away just yet. God has blessed us with enough to meet our needs, and the area is cheap to live in so I can't complain.

  • @michaelbrown1627
    @michaelbrown1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And why isn’t the CEO in prison for falsifying pre-orders? Oh wait, I’m sure he got a huge “thanks for fucking yo our company” bonus on the wait out.

  • @joe4964
    @joe4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The GM Lordstown plant played a huge role in the Mahoning valley prior to closing its doors and truly hurt the valley after shutting down. This plant supplied many jobs to the people in the area along with its other suppliers, distributors, and many more. It truly was a shame to see this plant close, especially because it meant my father had to be relocated to another plant. GM could have retooled this plant in order to produce the Chevy blazer, but elected to move its production down to Mexico instead. UAW local 1112 was the best, and strongest union around and corporate GM did not want to deal with the local anymore, thus also aiding in shutting the plant down to get rid of the local. God bless the men and women who worked there. Long live UAW local 1112, and the Orange Vest Society.

    • @trentgay3437
      @trentgay3437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean trickle down economics didn't work lol.

    • @buzzsantana6637
      @buzzsantana6637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SOLIDARITY FOREVER

  • @joeb4294
    @joeb4294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow, they claimed over 300 miles from a 60 kWh battery! That is incredibly efficient, especially for a pickup truck, everyone should have smelled the BS from miles away. People allowed themselves to be fooled because they wanted to believe in this.

  • @artistwithouttalent
    @artistwithouttalent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Thank you for saying _something_ about this company, as it seemed like they just dropped off the face of the Earth. Based on the fact that they had at least one working prototype, it at least sounds more real than Nikola, and I certainly hope they can turn it around and prevent yet another town in the Midwest from ending up like Gary.

    • @horuslupercal3872
      @horuslupercal3872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are multiple prototypes, and they have completed crash testing videos are up for that, so there truck is more real than Nikola, Cyber truck, and Silverado EV right now

    • @horuslupercal3872
      @horuslupercal3872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sadfully dispute all the hard work that has gone into the Endurance, the biggest thing keeping Lordstown down is just how much power short selling has, lot of money to be made

    • @jjcoola998
      @jjcoola998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gary is a real life horror exhibit

    • @todtalk3912
      @todtalk3912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@horuslupercal3872 Rivian was at least smart by collaborating with a known brand and its finally working. They're also going to out out an ev truck for 40k at some point here. However, their trucks at the moment are like 75k and a 3 year wait to own one or pay an extreme premium on secondary car sale/auction sites

    • @JoeOvercoat
      @JoeOvercoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@horuslupercal3872 Got links for all that?

  • @MG-jc5ko
    @MG-jc5ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I live in Youngstown which is right down the street from lordstown, it was an old GM factory that was a huge deal for our area, and it made a big impact when it closed. Then came this company and we had big hopes for it but it turned out to be a slap in the face the way this guy has ran and operated it.

    • @TWAN330
      @TWAN330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I live in the Youngstown/Campbell area hello 👋🏾

    • @TWAN330
      @TWAN330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kinda like the chill-can company 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @MG-jc5ko
      @MG-jc5ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TWAN330 exactly man you got

    • @stavl5122
      @stavl5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Born and raised in Campbell…chill can plant is the biggest joke!

    • @DJ.1001
      @DJ.1001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TWAN330 Oh God. That story might be more depressing than the Lordstown saga.

  • @johnsherby9130
    @johnsherby9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “They would experiment with adding battery electric power to two seat roadsters”
    Man I feel like some other company started out doing that but I just can’t think of the name…..

  • @lukejackson5481
    @lukejackson5481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I’m excited to see what show the new guy’s gonna host

    • @jvr6809
      @jvr6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jim jibroni hahahahaha

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @Jim jibroni Way to not even give him a chance to host before starting with the racist crap. You definitely do not procrastinate on your priorities.

    • @austinbranscomb7135
      @austinbranscomb7135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@extragoogleaccount6061 diversity hire doesn't necessarily mean race

    • @bradevans1661
      @bradevans1661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@austinbranscomb7135 True, but in this case it certainly isn't related to gender or any apparent disability... but thanks for defending a clearly lame comment.

    • @evergreenrider
      @evergreenrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jim jibroni in that case they should have got Smokey from the most recent you fix you win

  • @Pita4912
    @Pita4912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great job on the pronunciation of “Mahoning.”
    Btw, as a Youngstown, Ohio native. This felt like a scam from the start.

    • @stavl5122
      @stavl5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not over yet thankfully…

    • @finish_my_projects
      @finish_my_projects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stavl5122 lol, not one chance in a billion this goes anywhere... just another scam EV company 😂

  • @MC-jq6ml
    @MC-jq6ml 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I live here. So crazy to see you guys talk about it. Almost every one of my friends' parents lost their jobs when the Cruze got canceled

  • @tjeddy3052
    @tjeddy3052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Love the show, brilliant as always. One note: have your stock/company valuation decrease by 5.5 billion is not the same as losing 5.5 billion dollars. That is all.

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe not but
      I bet any share holder who bought at their peak and is now holding a piece of paper worth a fraction of the price they paid for it,is pissed off at best.

    • @tjeddy3052
      @tjeddy3052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianiswrong excellent point

  • @dereknicol5284
    @dereknicol5284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good video. The important bit you missed at the end is that the Foxconn deal has yet to be finalized, they have until the end of April 2022. If its not finalized Lordstown will become bankrupt soon after. The fate of Lordstown is entirely in Foxconns hands.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Given the way Foxconn is doing in SE WI good luck with that.

  • @vengadeshkannavathy7225
    @vengadeshkannavathy7225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Nolan, make an episode about Maybach's history.

  • @jakepF1D
    @jakepF1D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 320 mile range they claimed on the prototype is total BS for a 60kWh battery.

  • @iancameron415
    @iancameron415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is super close to me, as I pass that plant all the time wondering what the current status of it is. This video was super helpful! Awesome job Nolan!

  • @JordanKyle
    @JordanKyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I grew up just down the road from this plant. Crazy to see all the controversy around a local factory in the middle of nowhere Ohio 😅

  • @jasonstilgebouer565
    @jasonstilgebouer565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not to forget they built an off-road race truck to go race in Baja at the San Felipe 250 in April 2021.
    Their untested race truck mostly built by Brenthel made it a total of 40 miles of the 250 mile rice before breaking down. They were an absolute Joke, their “endurance” was so slow off-road they were being passed by Class 11 Bugs…. The slowest off-road racing class.
    They had no idea what they were doing down there. They were caught going backwards on race course as their drivers and go drivers had no experience racing in Mexico🥲 they put out a statement that said they “learned a lot” and we never heard from them again in off-road racing.

  • @georgiaobrien1
    @georgiaobrien1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how cohesive / easy to follow it is! Props to the writer on this one 👏👏👏

  • @CausticLemons7
    @CausticLemons7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think Lordstown highlights the issue of how large scale manufacturing knowledge, skill, and experience have been gradually leaving America.

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really wish people would stop pretending market cap is money, or anything even resembling value.

    • @CarDaddyBR
      @CarDaddyBR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree

  • @_saifr
    @_saifr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any automotive f*ck up you can think of, somehow GM is always involved lol

  • @LotharTheFellhanded
    @LotharTheFellhanded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Important to note that SPACs are done to acquire companies that ARE on the stock exchange (there are certain requirements for that might be difficult for an unproven start up) so you can sell stock on the exchange and raise money. Lordstown most likely would not have been allowed to be listed on the stock exchange without the SPAC. Since there is a shell game going on with the companies and stock...there are notorious for pump and dumps.

  • @aw6545
    @aw6545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, during quarantine there wasn't shit to do but study the changes in the auto industry. This was a thick story the whole way. Fantastic job as always donut!!

  • @sestominecraft4099
    @sestominecraft4099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Starting the week strong with some good ol donut. Keep it up guys

  • @dmarting6014
    @dmarting6014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Hey Nolan, great presentation and thanks for all you and your team do for us. A quick note, CapEx is short for Capital Expenditure. It's pronounced Cap (like the hat) Ex (like the gf). Keep on keeping on!

    • @haydenf1353
      @haydenf1353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was looking for this comment so as to not make it myself for no reason.

  • @motosagela
    @motosagela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It seems like a Theranos situation, but with EV Trucks. I wonder how much of that $5.5 B was executive salaries and bonuses? Thanks for this story Nolan/Donut.

  • @jadenhayslett8596
    @jadenhayslett8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mom is an elementary school teacher in Lordstown. It is very cool to see you guys shine some light on Lordstown

  • @MrRandomguyTom
    @MrRandomguyTom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6 billions $$ value without single functioning car. Logic 🤯

  • @rcluke2479
    @rcluke2479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here before Donut changes the title and thumbnail 3 times

  • @Jroc7275
    @Jroc7275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    On the topic of vehicle startups housed in former gm factories, you guys should make a video on elio motors, quite possibly one of the biggest vehicular scams of the 2010s

    • @clintonflynn815
      @clintonflynn815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the former Fremont, CA GM plant that now produces Teslas.

  • @Lumi1975
    @Lumi1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks for the tutorial!! i was struggling before but now i know how!!

  • @destrudot
    @destrudot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my gosh thank you so much!! I have 5.5 billion dollars laying around and I dont know how to get rid of it. Thank you so much!!!!!

  • @anom7422
    @anom7422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Surprised there is no prosecution for guys that pout false claims to gain more $$ in investments.

  • @DeeWhy618
    @DeeWhy618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for bringing back the yellow ad time bar! As always, great video. Thanks!

  • @shekharmoona544
    @shekharmoona544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lordstown starts delivering the Endurance this year. 🤣🤣🤣 We'll see.

    • @legopieface
      @legopieface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Jim jibroni Difference between a protype on a trailer and a car driving at highway speeds is about... a working car.

    • @andromeda9340
      @andromeda9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Jim jibroni are you sure because rivian is making and delivering more trucks than what lordstown could ever dream of.if you seen a car transporter hauling their vehicles,it would’ve made headlines all over the place but so far nothing

  • @combatwombat594
    @combatwombat594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who has actually lived in Lordstown, and has lived in Northeast Ohio my entire life, the Lordstown plant kind of screwed itself, or was screwed by GM. They forced the plant into only making the Cruise, then the Volt. They didn't have a good modern reputation for being good with their employees either, so not many people wanted to work there after awhile. This is just speaking of when it was still a GM plant

  • @GabrielLopez-ki5fr
    @GabrielLopez-ki5fr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really hope they do an episode on Elio Motors. I did my fair share of research on them when things were skeptical and things look like a scam but there is just the same info out there. Would like to see if donut took the step further and maybe shine some light on it. I also really enjoyed this episode keep it going!

  • @gravemind452
    @gravemind452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Welcome back! Lordstown just filed for bankruptcy, June 2023

  • @james2042
    @james2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When Daniel Ninivaggi took over, the first thing he shoulda done was propose a top to bottom plan from where they actually are now to where they get trucks into customers hands do everything in his power to get a working prototype out and into press hands asap.
    After what happened, ambitious delivery dates and press conferences aren't gonna help much.

    • @libidoking9044
      @libidoking9044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, look at rivian, they send it to the costumer and the stock plummet from $172 to $39 so many investor lost money.

    • @orvil011
      @orvil011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They decided to stick with September 2021 production, kept reiterating that date, and then finally leaked the Foxconn deal talks on 09.30 when no production had taken place.

    • @james2042
      @james2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@libidoking9044 their stock started SUPER high because of tons of hype, but after ford and chevy backed off them in the name of making their own EV's, their stock fell. It actually has come back up since delivering the first vehicles and as they continue to sell it will likely go back up. Never invest in an overhyped startup. Not to mention the main investors who lost money were ford and GM

  • @elmoforpresident3359
    @elmoforpresident3359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yooooo this channel rocks so much

  • @jfisher8815
    @jfisher8815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope one day you guys are on, you guys make great content and work hard so you kind of deserve it!

  • @I_Did_That_46
    @I_Did_That_46 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not to mention SONO, RIVN, LCID, MULN, GOEV, the list goes on

  • @DavidPysnik
    @DavidPysnik 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Donut: How the heck do you lose $5.5 billion?
    Elon Musk: Hold my beer…

  • @kyleoleksa1368
    @kyleoleksa1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually live near the lordstown motor plan and had worked with a company that dealt with them they had some working demo trucks driving around company Executives around the plant but everything to me still seems like it's not going over well but who knows.

  • @bkzach
    @bkzach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I drove past the plant back when it made Cruzes, it was pretty cool seeing all the cars out in the lot

  • @budgethomegymtraining5526
    @budgethomegymtraining5526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im from Mahoning county and had an uncle who was working at Lordstown and laid off. this is tragic. great research, great video

  • @savion2816
    @savion2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This really reminds of the nikola scandal and how gm and ev don’t mix

  • @Kajacot
    @Kajacot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is Nikola 2.0. I can't believe we fell for the same exact scam twice. Billions of dollars vanished to two scammers. Burns and Milton are the same. Sad.

  • @Ennui.
    @Ennui. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:36 and with that, you've told me everything i needed to know

  • @model3forever91
    @model3forever91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this documentary. I work at a manufacturing plant that use to deliver parts to Lordstown. One day, the orders stopped coming in. We were told simply that the plant shut down. Now I know what really happened.

  • @whenelvescry2625
    @whenelvescry2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I live in MI, and I saw 2 prototypes on the road a couple weeks ago. Hopefully they can make it work

    • @aaronthomas6155
      @aaronthomas6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Foxconn involved, they'll make it work or Foxconn will likely end up owning the company.

  • @chris3325
    @chris3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Running theme in these EV startup companies seems to be a willingness even an eagerness to promise stuff that they simply cannot do. How about before you take a 100000 preorders you actually make something. It's like the people running these companies think they're making an android app or something. Making a car is complicated and expensive.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love those mini documentaries again, Donut. 👍

  • @originalsubwayjones
    @originalsubwayjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The accuracy of this video is refreshing. I’ve been holding shares in RIDE since the merger, not one of my best choices but you can’t win them all. I’ve been following all of the inns and outs, and with all the bullshit on the Internet, all the noise, all the know it alls, it’s so nice to have some good reporting.

  • @97skinnyboyswag
    @97skinnyboyswag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My father’s business supplied lots of the concrete used to build this very plant. Really cool to see it’s history laid out for everyone to see. GM really pissed a lot of people off by laying off thousands of people.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will admit that targeting the delivery truck and local commercial market is pretty smart as they don't necessarily need the range and the larger chassis means weight restrictions don't hurt as much. But it seems like a lot of companies just can't stop themselves from making a over complicated design that they can't even bring to market.

    • @russellulbrich8043
      @russellulbrich8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This design is simpler. . .and more manufacturable. They are doing the engineering that will change the industry.

  • @alfblack2
    @alfblack2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh. Thanks for the the mini documentary. Well good luck to Lordstown. I hope they can make it.

  • @damarfadlan9251
    @damarfadlan9251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these mini documentaries, Donut. 👍

  • @Davitofrito
    @Davitofrito 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    June 2023: Lordstown Motors is defunct having filed for bankruptcy.

  • @tuszekpampuszek
    @tuszekpampuszek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for the tutorial

  • @adamsvette
    @adamsvette 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another extremely relatable video from donut with lots of practical applications in my life.

  • @JordanMiller-pj6wt
    @JordanMiller-pj6wt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to go visit the plant and ride in the truck as a investor. Such a great experience. Glad to see donut make a video about it.

  • @galaxfo
    @galaxfo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you guys are so amazing, keep up the good work!

  • @larry4fire
    @larry4fire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a gear head I’m surprised that you didn’t delve into the hub motors used in the Endurance. There are a lot of new capability that can be derived from a system of a computer individually controlling four hub motors, each capable of producing 150 hp and 1100 lb ft of torque. This system dumps the diffs, as well as half shafts, drive shafts, transfer case, transmission, ICE and supporting stuff like exhaust, cooling and fuel. You think front lockers are bad ass? This system could do this electronically. It can also make super tight turns by controlling the torque and turning direction of each wheel. It can do tank turns but why tear up the ground when you can turn the rear wheels in opposite directions. It has 13” of ground clearance without any lifting. The $5.5 billion they’ve spent isn’t much different than what GM and Ford are spending to get their electric pickups into production, but they have much deeper pockets. Foxconn taking over the Lordstown plant and manufacturing the Endurance under contract has been a godsend. Foxconn is not big, they’re gigantic with revenues around $200 billion/year they will have the assets to make this happen. They will also be building the Fisker PEAR and since they make the iPhones, they have a good shot at the future Apple car. BTW, the agreement with LMC is for two vehicles, one is the Endurance the other is unknown. The plan is LMC sells these vehicles in North America, Foxconn will sell them in the rest of the world. Yeah, they’ve had financial and management problems but their hub motor technology can be a game changer, I for one hope they will succeed.

  • @predaxgamer6396
    @predaxgamer6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:04 "human error", but nolan is in between the quotes. LOL

  • @MadIIMike
    @MadIIMike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EVs are serious business, just like NFTs... also, I love how well it transitions from "burned out EV" to "Hindenburg Report" xD

  • @s.h.a.g.g.6072
    @s.h.a.g.g.6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I remember back in april 2021 there was a race in México, and Lordstown promised to be the first electric vehicle to finish that race, they made a tubular chassis with the 4 electric motors, and i think they said 650hp, it all looked weird, it was preprepped in a company specialized to those kinds of races, they did many press releases, and videos talking about it, and how it was going to be and important step into off-road racing, plus they said autonomy would be around 72 miles per charge, so some 2 hour fast charging would be done for that 300 mile race. On race day, there were only 2 vehicles in the elcetric vehicle class, both were really slow, they were passed by an old VW Beetle and the rest of vehicles that started behind them. After 42 miles, the other car, an old Toyota Hilux, with motors and batteries of a Nissan Leaf, passed the Lordstown Truck, and Lordsdstown stopped for like 30 minutes cause they ran out of battery, so they called a chase truck, to take them out to pit and recharge the batteries, then the chase truck got stuck like an hour, finally they made it to the highway to recharge, took longer than 2 hours to recharge, it was pretty late, when they went back to the race course, the Hilux was walfway to the race at that point, while lordstown was going back to mile 42, but then Lordstown got DQ´d cause they started driving the wrong way, they got noticed and retired, the Hilux couldnt make it either, they broke the front right suspension i think, i remember seeing comments of people being pissed after that

    • @Eko_Kats
      @Eko_Kats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember that, they totaly ignored/forgot that range on road is totaly different from range on sand/off road. At least it did not broken down so maybe they learned how significantly range is reduced on loose surface and try it in future with extra batteries.

  • @TheWinjin
    @TheWinjin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wiki page:
    Defunct June 2023; 3 months ago
    WELP

  • @nilvlrod
    @nilvlrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live very close to Lordstown Motors. This video was fascinating, informative, and not at all suprising for a NE Ohio company.

  • @pilarchuck
    @pilarchuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone is talking about this place. It’s right down the road from me. When it was GM they built the cruze there

  • @americansmark
    @americansmark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bummer. I didn't know they went under. That was gonna be good for the area. I was friends with some of the Falcon trucking guys that got let go when Falcon closed. GM Lordstown was by and large their main customer. Hopefully somebody can make use of the facilities.

    • @mylesgray3470
      @mylesgray3470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They haven’t fully gone under yet. Like Nikola, they are down but not out. There is still a flicker of hope they will succeed but it’s not likely at this point. Let’s hope they are.

    • @sidfernandez4201
      @sidfernandez4201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't go under, still producing trucks for testing as they are following protocol for the automotive procedure before going into full production, running 5 to 6 days a week and will have big news in the on coming months hopefully this guy does a follow up . Also it took Tesla over 5 years to get their start up going and look at them now this fella should have brought up that instead of going full negative on a company that will definitely make it.

    • @finish_my_projects
      @finish_my_projects 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sidfernandez4201 @Myles Gray this scam is as dead as dead can be, just waiting for the corpse to go cold now

  • @SenorGato237
    @SenorGato237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lordstown didn't lose $5.5B because they didn't have $5.5B. Market value of outstanding stock =/= how much money a company has.
    It's an interesting design, I'd love to see them succeed with it.

  • @ClimaxSlushies
    @ClimaxSlushies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Lisbon Ohio, and I work in Warren Ohio. I drive through lordstown every single day. So cool seeing the team cover something so close!

  • @foxxifi6521
    @foxxifi6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    never thought id see donut talk about the chevy cruze, i own a big turbo cruze that I built myself and its kinda dope to see this lil car get mentioned by the boys

  • @splynncryth
    @splynncryth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I hope they succeed in getting to production, and I'm curious how well hub motors will do on a production vehicle. I hope they do well enough to go for a second gen product that can really take advantage of the hub motor system with bigger battery packs and better suspension setups.

    • @hankyul33
      @hankyul33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bankruptcy

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only an idiot would try to make a passenger vehicle with hub motors. There's a reason everyone else in the world is trying to make wheels lighter.

  • @joao_goncalves
    @joao_goncalves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good work. How about other EV's? Like Bollinger EV Pickup, maybe?

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or byton who also raised billions and hasn't produced a damn thing despite showing off the m byte back in 2018.
      Maybe nikola motors to? Raised billions bilked it's shareholders inc gm, and so far has made a few trucks assembled from a German chassis.

    • @andromeda9340
      @andromeda9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      out of all the startups,lucid has the best shot and nobody understands them at all despite them ramping up production in silence.

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andromeda9340 proof of said ramp actually happening at lucid motors?
      They showed the air off 6 years ago now in April of 2016. The powertrain itself was in a converted cargo van they smoked a p85d with in 2015.
      Their parent co has been around for over 15 years now, they provided the motors and batteries for formula e through this season. Lost the contract for the new gen 3 formula e cars.
      Lucid raised over $20,000,000,000 so far and built a ground up facility called amp-1 finishing it over a year ago now.
      They recalled cars already for a suspension issue. Lucid is all out of excuses imo. Especially with all the trash talk Rawlins did about no production hell and tesla beating specs etc. 👍🏻
      And why hasn't a SINGLE independently done fully instrumented test of an air taken place yet? Motor trend gave them all kinds of early coverage last year inc coty. Yet hasn't posted any official reviews of it with real world specs like range, charging, acceleration etc. 🤔

  • @michaelfjmusic
    @michaelfjmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny I got suggested this, I literally saw this truck out on the road today. It was in Lake Forest

  • @signorpippistrello
    @signorpippistrello 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping you‘d be doing this video!
    👍🏿

  • @billywampler2852
    @billywampler2852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Y'all should do a vid about Elio motors, the insanely fuel efficient "car" that never was
    Edit: okay full disclosure, I do have some skin in the game, but I put in $100 almost 7yrs ago and I wanna know what happened

    • @antoinesilva1527
      @antoinesilva1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent suggestion!

    • @horuslupercal3872
      @horuslupercal3872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude same! I wanted one so bad, they also got an ex GM plant to manufacture in, I'm starting to see a pattern with EX GM factories

    • @billywampler2852
      @billywampler2852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@horuslupercal3872 you don't think GM is working in the background getting these startups tanked do you?

  • @eggreedgious5194
    @eggreedgious5194 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    First mistake: terrible name. Who tf is going around telling people they drive a Lordstown?

  • @josephfrechette5251
    @josephfrechette5251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually love how donut does ads. I'll sit and watch them and think they're interesting

  • @TheOficialShortKing
    @TheOficialShortKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nolan is gonna have great Grandpa Stories with his grandkids sitting around his Recaro rocking chair.

  • @buttsexandbananapeels
    @buttsexandbananapeels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sad truth about the Lordstown plant and the Cruze they built there: the quality control sucked. I’m all for a healthy middle class with good paying jobs, but the product they turned out was a self fulfilling prophecy of shit work creating lost jobs.