If you think that’s bad, you should see the original version of the song called “Biggering”. While how bad can I be says “who cares if a few trees are dying”, biggering says “who cares if *some things* are dying”
Eh,I still think him being faceless in the original cartoon works better in terms of message,but I still like this movie regardless of what people say!
@@f0xyLuvIdk?? He appears in the most of the movie, but the whole point of the story happening is because of Ted, its hard to recognize if he is primary or secondary
Someone made a video titled “if illumination villains were charged for their crimes” and they did a pretty good job. Someone else commented claiming that since the Onceler is really old, environmental laws might not have existed when he was cutting down the forests and stuff but idk bout that..
Evolution of the meaning behind each "How bad can I be" 0:34 - 0:51 "How bad can I be?" -->basically how can i be bad, rhetorical to self, truly believes himself to be good . 0:52 "How bad can I possibly be?" --> decides to push the boundaries of what "good" is. 1:19 - 1:38 "How bad can I be?" --> "good" and "bad" start to blur, believes he is just doing "what comes naturally"/"(he) is just following his destiny", redirects blame to (human)nature. The lorax protects nature, so he's using this argument against the lorax saying that what he is doing is natural/meant to be, still somewhat cares about persuading the lorax, although this sentiment quickly fades. 2:13 -2:22 "Come on how bad can I possibly be?" --> Now he claims that all he's doing is following the "principles of business," tries to strengthen his argument supporting his destructive business even more, nature/the lorax's will is irrelevant to him now. He also starts to develop a bit of a superiority complex and is shown to have become very greedy. 2:23 - 2:31 "How bad can I be?" --> rhetorical to the public who don't perceive him as bad and he knows it. 2:32 "How bad could I possibly be, let's s ee," --> has begun to question how much he could potentially get away with, acknowledges that he is "bad" 2:37 - 2:46 "How bad can he be?" --> public echoing his question to them, he sees how his "money is multiplying" and is excited to earn more, decides to protect himself from the repercussions of his actions so he can go further and earn more money. 2:48 - 3:05 "How bad can he be?" --> He is protected from the repercussions of his actions, he knows there are no consequences whatsoever, feels very powerful, fully embraces being "bad". 3:08 "How bad, how bad can this possibly be?" -->basically how bad can I get, a challenge to self, and the song ends right there. After the song ends, we see that the last tree is chopped down, implying that he never got to see "how bad it could possibly be" as his business was shut down immediately as a result. All his power was stripped away not long after he acquired it.
What I love about this final concentration is that the Lorax isn't mad at the Once-ler. Never once does he call him an evil person, nor do the animals he's protecting try to attack him. No, they aren't mad, they're disappointed. Disappointed that they're friend went down this path, sad that he's only now realizing the damage he's done. We've all heard that disappointment often hits harder than anger, and here, that is the truth. There is nothing that the Lorax or the animals could say or do to the Once-ler, that could equal what he's saying and doing to himself in this moment, and every moment since. Furthermore, if they truly had given up on the Once-ler, the Lorax wouldn't have left him that one sliver of hope: _Unless_
Yeah, but the Lorax could've avoided all of this if he just taught the boy to replant the seeds after cutting them down and maintain circular harvesting like most of us do IRL. He yelled at him for even chopping ONE tree as if he didn't realize they could be replanted, and in the end, that's what they ultimately end up doing...replanting them anyway with the ONE seed they managed to keep. XD It's as if the "guardian of nature" himself forgot trees die and get knocked over by nature all the time, thunderstorms, loose soil, over competition of goods. and typically sustainable lumberjacks only cut trees that are already dying/dead anyway or are going to die due to the environment they're growing in. That's why it was better to just let the song be the point of the story. If the Lorax taught him that, the movie wouldn't have happened. XD (nor if the people in Thneedville had a basic education....)
@@mikelcali6364 this song encapsulates the corporate phrase "plausible deniability". The myth of a company doing bad accidentally through ignorance. _Oopsie, I had know idea bad things would happen_ *bats eyelashes innocent The original version of this song, "Biggering" made him a true villain. In that song he was not in denial, he knew exactly what he was doing and he chose money anyway. Corporate expansion became his obsession. The rest just didn't matter enough to him. _Who cares if... Some things are dying?_ _I don't want to hear you crying!_ _This is all so gratifying!_
This song pushed this movie off a cliff and ruined what would have been an at least servicable film to me. Even worse after hearing the original version of this song when it was "Biggering" and understanding just how much they butchered it to not displease the corporate overlords.
I love the gradual changing of meaning in the phrase “ how ban can I be?” And it becoming messed up as The Onceler does worse and worse things. It goes from “ Am I actually bad?” To “ I kinda know I’m bad” to “ just how much worse should I make things?”
The scene gives me chills bc it’s literally a real world problem personified into one person and one song and the way his tone changes in the end really makes him Dr. Seuss most powerful villain
@OneWorldGovernment2030-yv3zc wildfires in *moderate* amounts arent actually a bad thing, theyre needed for the cycle of many ecosystems to come full circle and to clear out forests that like you mentioned would get too dense otherwise, but yea alot of them are bad too. The deer thing is a separate problem stemming from humans living everywhere though. We clear out dangerous predators that would normally eat them then instead just eat our own farmed animals letting the wild prey populations get out of control. Agreed for the most part though, again like you said balance is key
or if he had just stuck to harvesting the stuff from the trees. in the original, it is revealed it takes 10 months for a truffula seed to germinate, and even more years for one to turn into a tree
too much cost and labor to replant, cultivate, and tend to growing trees. it’s all about making the most profit possible as fast as you can. what he should’ve done is invest the majority of his wealth into real estate and guaranteed cash flow for the rest of his life.
This is random, but in the L.A. version of "how bad can I be" there's such a good line. Instead of "Who cares if a few trees are dying" they say "Que importa la muerte de un arbol" which I can't do justice by just translating it but it is essentially questioning if anything would change by the death of a single insignificant tree. This line is trying to downplay everything that's happening because a single tree's death does not matter. This sentiment is meant to be repeated over and over for every tree that falls, but at that point it's not a single tree, its a whole forest, but you don't need to acknowledge that if you don't lump them together. I'm such a nerd analyzing the meaning of words, but it's such a powerful line.
You spanish or watch movies in spanish? Anyways, maybe makes a reference of (apart of what you say) how Once ler knows he broke "the promise" he made to the lorax
The moment he realizes he just fucked himself over when the last tree goes down is absolutely magical, i struggle to decide if he puts that face because he feels bad he killed them all... or just because he doomed his empire
@Nexus Prime I had to watch this movie recently in principles of business management class cause we are gonna analyse shit for a project, first thing I noticed was the stupidity of cuttimg down the trees wothout replanting any
I suggest reading the original Lorax book because it has more accurate story-telling and charaterization than the movie, also the story is much more darker.
I love how he goes from saying " how bad can i be " in a way to say that hes not bad and hes a good guy, to saying " how bad can THIS be " to try to justify his horrible actions
i really like how the name of the song has a double meaning; at the start it means “i don’t see how my actions will cause harm” and then it develops into “let’s see how much harm i can cause”
actually the song just shows how he's stupid when it comes to business. If he was smart he would have made sure that replanted the trees at the same or greater rate he cut them down since his business relies on them.
He doesn't. He was more than happy to chop down trees the second he found them. He only agreed to stop when it benefited him (it placated the Lorax) but the minute he was given some push or incentive to break that promise, he did. And while he did wrestle with his moral conscious for a moment, the whole point of the song is where he justifies his baser greed and destruction. It was always there. You just didnt watch the movie.
This book was published 1971. One can hope this new generation takes its message to heart, but those that are now in their 50s didn't, so there's no reason to hope.
Yeah but people in the comments are crying that the song isnt critical enough of corporations just because they didnt use another song that was “better” and went with this one which is a lot catchier and is fantastic on its own as a song.
@@ironmaster6496 Now that is a reasonable, non whiney position to hold on the matter. I wish all these other people would have just looked at it that way instead of dismissing a genuinely really good song because they became fixated with its original version.
@@jaydenshepard7928 I like this version for how misleading it is. The song is super fun and upbeat but the lyrics are actually super down to earth about corporations. People who say Biggering is better simply because how sinister it is completely missed the actual point of this song
@@RXQ1jj The message about corporations isn't good though because in real life corporations were the ones who were saving the forests and environmentalists destroyed them because by not regularly cutting down and planting trees, we got the massive year long forest fires across the world that destroyed ecosystems.
bruh it’s not even his fault he became the villain. his fam had hella influence on him because his mom ended up being the one making him cut down the trees and he didn’t wanna let her down and then when he stopped making money, she said “you’ve disappointed me son” like bro it’s so sad if u think about it
So? Why you judging those people. I’m sure your crushes weren’t that great looking as well. Proven by whatever atrocity your profile pic is. Let’s do better.
Yeah it is a rather dumb thing to say and it is soaked in irony as well but I dunno seems like a pretty important lyric to add to the song cause it really shows his ignorance for how much harm this is truly causing highlighting his unawareness and greed as well as his carelessness
It’s sad cuz he could’ve saved his business and the animals if he would’ve replanted the trees he chopped down. Classic Supply and Demand. As the demand increased his supply did not
@@sprinkleconeanimation7938 it means that he is buying out the media and legal system and politician to cover his corruption. Which is very common in the world today
The PR people are lying’ this line is referring to the companies PR reps (public relations representatives, basically the people in charge of public outreach and outward image of the company to it’s consumers) are lying about the realities behind the companies practices, such as in the ‘a portion of proceeds goes to charity’ line. ‘And the lawyers are denying’ is essentially saying that the company practices are unethical and harmful, thereby violating the laws that are meant to prevent companies from behaving unethically, so the company lawyers are having to find loopholes and ways to deny that the business practices the company is committing are illegal.
I love how smooth the transition between the "How bad can this be?" as in, that he's good, to "How bad could I be?", as in a excuse, to "How bad CAN I be?", where he's challenging himself. Also, this song is just SO iconic. (I just noticed each time the meaning of "How ba-a-a-ad can i be?" changes, the Once-ler's guitar changes, from a acoustic guitar, to an electric guitar, to a 2 electric guitars bound together)
The problem is that his social environment even confirms and reinforces the worst of him. Humans usually judge themselves by the people surrounding them, and they reassured his attitude by buying his products.
2:01 this part actuallu made me cry so hard, it was actually so emotional. the deep meaning it had made me break down into tears. enough for me to not be able to recover from it. that line changes my mood everytime i hear it or even think about it. anytime I hear it, a tear of sadness rolls down my cheek. I am actually so serious. the $ sign on his back had a deep meaning behind it that I was able to realize. It's like there's a minor great depression happening right now. Illuminations, you have successfully made me depressed for the rest of my life and I hav e realized this world cannot be changed back anymore. I have realized the sad yet horrible truth from that scene and I will never recover in my life again.
Listening to this masterpiece of a villain song after getting disappointed from the "supposed" villain song from Wish. This is how you do it, Disney. Take some notes.
“A portion of proceeds goes to charity” “Just look at me petting this puppy” I love how this show-even though it’s a children’s show-expresses the fact that marketers try to appeal to their audiences and the public in order to boost sales and increase buyers and in such a subtle way- bravo the Lorax 👏
@@NixDarkLord i get the point youre trying to make but it wouldnt if people werent so purposefully ignorant to what money hungry assholes do and chose not to spend their money on them lol If people would actually be involved in what bullshit they were wasting money on, these types of corporations wouldnt survive
I love how the instrumentals start off cheery and innocent-like, but slowly starts getting more and more corrupt until the end where it just devolves into just evil.
All while he was ignorant and arrogant of doing so. That’s what makes them the antagonists. In their perspective are always assumptive, ambitious, and they let their overconfidence betray and wipe away their morality for others and their environment before replacing them with the morality of their personality and them thinking that they’re always the protagonist no matter what bad they do.
@@thatoneguy609 I think it's fair to say that the seeds for the change are planted almost as soon as the song starts. There is a definite point when the song changes, if I were to object to the OP I'd say the song was never innocent it was just sinister in a less obvious way
0:01 him: "Bad, im not bad im the good guy here" Also him 3 minutes later: Cuts down a whole forest and enslaves the fricking animal kingdom without giving a single shit about what he's doing"
Welp the end of this movie made me cry when I was younger especially the quote at the end. I always thought I was a baby for that but after revisiting this & seeing this I can see why. Definitely some powerful messages and portrayals.
@@whatislife5627 so what? Really why do you feel the need to say that. Can we just enjoy the fucking song and say that we enjoy it without one of you pointing out you like the other one better. Don’t answer that, I’ve checked the answer is a quite decisive “no”
it is, quite literally. while pretending to be anti-corporate theyre actually pro-corporate for portraying the onceler as a good innocent guy who doesnt know that what hes doing is bad until the very end, biggering is way better, more realistic and true the OG. theres a huge difference between "Who cares if some.. THINGS are dying!"(biggering) and "Who cares if a few trees are dying!"(how bad can i be)
@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 I feel like that was the point. In that he literally did not care what he was doing just like all corporations. He’s saying his bad can he be because he doesn’t care about anything he’s doing. He doesn’t think it’s bad, because he’s not thinking about it. He’s only thinking about the profit, and that’s what corporations do. They ignore it and think that what they’re doing isn’t that much compared to everyone else. Why do you think media keeps asking regular people to stop doing things to ruin the earth, when it’s actually big business doing it
One of the things that I always liked about this as a villain song was that at the beginning of the song, Onceler genuinely doesn't see what he's doing as being a bad thing and the question of "How bad can I be?" Is more of a, "it's no big deal" dismissal, but by the end of the song, it's more of a challenge to himself to see what he can get away with.
From my perspective, its an attempt to place corporate high ups in an innocent position. They want you to relate them to the onceler and how he was forced into it by his family. Biggering is much better symbolism imo as it shows what they are actually like( Why it was cut)
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Think about it if he didn’t invite his family after the Thneed became popular and he promised the Lorax he wouldn’t cut down trees ,the trees would’ve still been there.
A few facts. I can even consider this one to be the definitive song where Locopoton1 goes too onboard on killing the Loud Sisters. I can hear him singing to this song alongside with the likes of Dreadpool, Yuujirou (Yujiro) Hanma, Tetsuo Shima, Evil!Ren Hoek, Griffith, Thragg, Homelander and several others.
It represents how excessive and over the top his actions are, because a guitar doesn't need to look like that to play properly yet he still bought it and replaced his simple not over the top guitar that played perfectly even though it looked simplistic and was maybe even cheap.
I didn't think it was possible to make "Who cares if a few trees are dying?!" sound ominous, threatening, and scary at the same time, but the voice behind this guy managed to pull it off somehow :/ bravo.
As someone already stated, a cut song called biggering uses the line "who cares if some things are dying" and it actually makes the once-ler look like a villain in this story.
Hello from 2024 Just remembered that this movie exist while watching tv about news nowadays *yeah, why the heck they turn off the comments cause of "kids"* :v
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"Who cares if a *FEW* trees are dying?!"
*proceeds to chop down ALL the trees*
Compared to all the trees in the world it is a few trees.
If you think that’s bad, you should see the original version of the song called “Biggering”.
While how bad can I be says “who cares if a few trees are dying”, biggering says “who cares if *some things* are dying”
*F e w*
Just shows his definition of the term "few."
That's the joke..
When you enslave Minecraft villagers for trading
I shouldn't be laughing this hard🤣💀
And then force breed them to make more stuff
Realateble
Relatable
Wait, what's Minecraft?
Pffft-HAHAHAHAHA
The Onceler will always be one of the greatest Dr. Seuss villains ever
Eh,I still think him being faceless in the original cartoon works better in terms of message,but I still like this movie regardless of what people say!
he an anti hero
@@grass324 More like an anti-villain, or villain protagonist. He's most definitely not a hero.
@@f0xyLuvIdk?? He appears in the most of the movie, but the whole point of the story happening is because of Ted, its hard to recognize if he is primary or secondary
He’s not supposed to be a villain
Love how he gets into no legal issues with everything he just did.
the lawyers do be denying 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
Someone made a video titled “if illumination villains were charged for their crimes” and they did a pretty good job. Someone else commented claiming that since the Onceler is really old, environmental laws might not have existed when he was cutting down the forests and stuff but idk bout that..
@@sophthetoast1997 I saw that. It is interesting
The more you think about it he might as have been the reason certain laws even exist, like how Hitler was the reason War crimes were a thing
“I’ve done nothing illegal”- The Oncler 🥲
"What's the difference between a Villain and a Super Villain?"
" *P R E S E N T A T I O N* "
Oh hey Mega mind
Oh your a villain alright just not a super one!
Yeah? What’s the difference ?!
PRESENTATION!
Nice pfp
@@Domoni5165 ty ♡
I just watched that…..
"Just look at my petting this puppy"
*rubs teeth of a small bear*
More specifically, a barb-a-loot (thats what they were called in the original book)
Well bear Cubs are sometimes called pups too
The point is that he doesn't actually care what life form it is. He's with it for the attention, that's the joke..
@@johnathanvarga8883 right! This song is hard ah
Dalek!
Evolution of the meaning behind each "How bad can I be"
0:34 - 0:51 "How bad can I be?" -->basically how can i be bad, rhetorical to self, truly believes himself to be good .
0:52 "How bad can I possibly be?" --> decides to push the boundaries of what "good" is.
1:19 - 1:38 "How bad can I be?" --> "good" and "bad" start to blur, believes he is just doing "what comes naturally"/"(he) is just following his destiny", redirects blame to (human)nature. The lorax protects nature, so he's using this argument against the lorax saying that what he is doing is natural/meant to be, still somewhat cares about persuading the lorax, although this sentiment quickly fades.
2:13 -2:22 "Come on how bad can I possibly be?" --> Now he claims that all he's doing is following the "principles of business," tries to strengthen his argument supporting his destructive business even more, nature/the lorax's will is irrelevant to him now. He also starts to develop a bit of a superiority complex and is shown to have become very greedy.
2:23 - 2:31 "How bad can I be?" --> rhetorical to the public who don't perceive him as bad and he knows it.
2:32 "How bad could I possibly be, let's s ee," --> has begun to question how much he could potentially get away with, acknowledges that he is "bad"
2:37 - 2:46 "How bad can he be?" --> public echoing his question to them, he sees how his "money is multiplying" and is excited to earn more, decides to protect himself from the repercussions of his actions so he can go further and earn more money.
2:48 - 3:05 "How bad can he be?" --> He is protected from the repercussions of his actions, he knows there are no consequences whatsoever, feels very powerful, fully embraces being "bad".
3:08 "How bad, how bad can this possibly be?" -->basically how bad can I get, a challenge to self, and the song ends right there. After the song ends, we see that the last tree is chopped down, implying that he never got to see "how bad it could possibly be" as his business was shut down immediately as a result. All his power was stripped away not long after he acquired it.
A very astute analysis of the song well done man!
@@retunsus-hp1uh thanks, my guy!
Very true
I was thinking the same think, just couldn't put it into words
thnks guys
What I love about this final concentration is that the Lorax isn't mad at the Once-ler. Never once does he call him an evil person, nor do the animals he's protecting try to attack him. No, they aren't mad, they're disappointed. Disappointed that they're friend went down this path, sad that he's only now realizing the damage he's done. We've all heard that disappointment often hits harder than anger, and here, that is the truth. There is nothing that the Lorax or the animals could say or do to the Once-ler, that could equal what he's saying and doing to himself in this moment, and every moment since.
Furthermore, if they truly had given up on the Once-ler, the Lorax wouldn't have left him that one sliver of hope: _Unless_
Bro really out here dropping these bars for free
Yeah, but the Lorax could've avoided all of this if he just taught the boy to replant the seeds after cutting them down and maintain circular harvesting like most of us do IRL. He yelled at him for even chopping ONE tree as if he didn't realize they could be replanted, and in the end, that's what they ultimately end up doing...replanting them anyway with the ONE seed they managed to keep. XD It's as if the "guardian of nature" himself forgot trees die and get knocked over by nature all the time, thunderstorms, loose soil, over competition of goods. and typically sustainable lumberjacks only cut trees that are already dying/dead anyway or are going to die due to the environment they're growing in. That's why it was better to just let the song be the point of the story. If the Lorax taught him that, the movie wouldn't have happened. XD (nor if the people in Thneedville had a basic education....)
Everyone hates capitalism until this banger starts playing
For me it either this or watching the Ferengi on a Star Trek episode then capitalism doesn't seem that bad
Pretty sure the song criticizes capitalism
or people hate capitalism and this song is great at criticizing it, but... sure
@@mikelcali6364 this song encapsulates the corporate phrase "plausible deniability". The myth of a company doing bad accidentally through ignorance. _Oopsie, I had know idea bad things would happen_ *bats eyelashes innocent
The original version of this song, "Biggering" made him a true villain. In that song he was not in denial, he knew exactly what he was doing and he chose money anyway. Corporate expansion became his obsession. The rest just didn't matter enough to him.
_Who cares if... Some things are dying?_
_I don't want to hear you crying!_
_This is all so gratifying!_
This song pushed this movie off a cliff and ruined what would have been an at least servicable film to me. Even worse after hearing the original version of this song when it was "Biggering" and understanding just how much they butchered it to not displease the corporate overlords.
"How bad can i be?"
*proceeds to demolish the entire forest*
5:21-
Basically.
She look like quackity
Very much
Hes more worst than hell
I love the gradual changing of meaning in the phrase “ how ban can I be?” And it becoming messed up as The Onceler does worse and worse things. It goes from “ Am I actually bad?” To “ I kinda know I’m bad” to “ just how much worse should I make things?”
From how can I be bad to how bad can I be
The scene gives me chills bc it’s literally a real world problem personified into one person and one song and the way his tone changes in the end really makes him Dr. Seuss most powerful villain
If this gave you chills I bet the cut song biggering would also give you chills.
How does the end make him dr seuss
repent to God
@OneWorldGovernment2030-yv3zc wildfires in *moderate* amounts arent actually a bad thing, theyre needed for the cycle of many ecosystems to come full circle and to clear out forests that like you mentioned would get too dense otherwise, but yea alot of them are bad too. The deer thing is a separate problem stemming from humans living everywhere though. We clear out dangerous predators that would normally eat them then instead just eat our own farmed animals letting the wild prey populations get out of control. Agreed for the most part though, again like you said balance is key
Keystone species and ecosystem balance, people
He may be bad but he’s stylish as hell
VGTBS - Villains Get The Best Songs
Nothing bad just an idiot
@@canadianmonarchist6357 Film theory?
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@@ezrobot7 no
"and a portion of proceeds goes to charity"
*gives a whopping 25 cents to a guy that just so happens to be his dad*
yea that’s the point
I always mishear it as "pussy" lmao
I thought they were making fun of Jewish people because of the fake beard and top hat
WAIT THAT GUY WAS HIS DAD???
who is casually dressed as a jew.
No matter how old this movie gets this song will never die
4:49 Somehow, they managed to make a tree falling so dramatic. Like, that literally made me gasp
They gave me chills
I personally blamed the Once-ler's family for tempting and pressuring him, but ultimately it was the Once-ler's decision
I think if his family weren’t there he would’ve still made thneed but he would’ve been more sustainable and listened to the Lorax
He called his family for help. He gave them jobs.
isn't it our faults aswell? We made him keep wanting him to make the thneeds.
Nah the Once-ler’s just based
@@americano2424 so?
admit it, yall came here bc the comments on the originals are turned off-
Maybee
I’ll admit that I did with no shame
Possibly 👀
Yeah....
Shush
Landlords after they evict a single mother because they're 1 cent short:
The mess it causes is way way more expensive than 1 cent.
If something like this happens irl, it’s usually just an excuse.
I’m just saying 😅
Based.
@@woopdashoop9860It's "based" until it is your mom
@@BroomieHERE Nah i have a dad, a biological one lmao
@@woopdashoop9860you dont have a mom? You never know when she ends up single
Prince zuko justifying burning down towns to find a child:
Lorax: "Stop making your Thneed! Trees are dying!"
Onceler: "I miss the part where that's my problem."
Yeah he literally missed that part, because it WAS his problem XD
Stings doesn't it
Onceler: i'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes
When there are no more trees: You can’t do this to me. I started this company. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!
Cool
It's crazy how the entire problem could've been avoided if he planted the seeds while cutting down the trees.
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO
Dude exhausted his resources because he was too addicted to getting that Minecraft wood
@@varietyvince6583 leaves*
or if he had just stuck to harvesting the stuff from the trees. in the original, it is revealed it takes 10 months for a truffula seed to germinate, and even more years for one to turn into a tree
too much cost and labor to replant, cultivate, and tend to growing trees. it’s all about making the most profit possible as fast as you can. what he should’ve done is invest the majority of his wealth into real estate and guaranteed cash flow for the rest of his life.
This is random, but in the L.A. version of "how bad can I be" there's such a good line. Instead of "Who cares if a few trees are dying" they say "Que importa la muerte de un arbol" which I can't do justice by just translating it but it is essentially questioning if anything would change by the death of a single insignificant tree. This line is trying to downplay everything that's happening because a single tree's death does not matter. This sentiment is meant to be repeated over and over for every tree that falls, but at that point it's not a single tree, its a whole forest, but you don't need to acknowledge that if you don't lump them together. I'm such a nerd analyzing the meaning of words, but it's such a powerful line.
You spanish or watch movies in spanish? Anyways, maybe makes a reference of (apart of what you say) how Once ler knows he broke "the promise" he made to the lorax
bro don't apologize for this, I keep rewatching both versions since I grew up watching the the la version and noticed this too! such an impactful line
@TheCrazyGuyOne they're latino
@@onlypjm Im also latino, we also call ourselves spanish
@@TroleosJuanlatino y español no son lo mismo bro ☠️
The soundtrack for this film had NO BUSINESS being this awesome.
Search up "Biggering" you'll LOVE it
You should listen to the original demo for this song it’s epic
The guitar went from being kinda worn down and minimalistic to being an unplayable instrument with more features than is needed.
way too many metaphors in this video
A guitar with two necks is a real thing but yea
And In the v shape
Well that’s some great attention to detail
7j
The moment he realizes he just fucked himself over when the last tree goes down is absolutely magical, i struggle to decide if he puts that face because he feels bad he killed them all... or just because he doomed his empire
Might be a bit of both
Both for sure.
See the real story here is of poor business management
@Nexus Prime I had to watch this movie recently in principles of business management class cause we are gonna analyse shit for a project, first thing I noticed was the stupidity of cuttimg down the trees wothout replanting any
@@therandomnobody3407 True, paper companies always plant trees more than they cut
I've never watched this movie but I am already rooting for this guy
You should watch it. The movie is actually kinda good. Maybe not the best movie out there, but, I liked it! :) It's worth a watch
I suggest reading the original Lorax book because it has more accurate story-telling and charaterization than the movie, also the story is much more darker.
Listen to Biggering
I love how he goes from saying " how bad can i be " in a way to say that hes not bad and hes a good guy, to saying " how bad can THIS be " to try to justify his horrible actions
This is a bop and it has no right to be
Ey, the lawyers been fighting for it to be a bop.
Nah this song is garbage. The good shit is biggering.
@@QuidProQuo999 biggering is great and has a better message, but that doesn’t make this song less of a bop n
Fr tho
@@QuidProQuo999 when it comes to the message, yes. But this is still good either way
i really like how the name of the song has a double meaning; at the start it means “i don’t see how my actions will cause harm” and then it develops into “let’s see how much harm i can cause”
Omg how did I not notice that
Oh
actually the song just shows how he's stupid when it comes to business. If he was smart he would have made sure that replanted the trees at the same or greater rate he cut them down since his business relies on them.
“how bad can i possibly be, let’s see😏”
How did I miss that
“ how bad can i be?”
*proceeds to chase the lorax with an tree cutting machine*
0:52 rule 34 artists ruining your childhood be like
I love how he goes from innocent wannabe to psychotic overlord in like 3 minutes
Relatable ngl
OML ITS TO TRUE THO
He doesn't. He was more than happy to chop down trees the second he found them. He only agreed to stop when it benefited him (it placated the Lorax) but the minute he was given some push or incentive to break that promise, he did. And while he did wrestle with his moral conscious for a moment, the whole point of the song is where he justifies his baser greed and destruction. It was always there. You just didnt watch the movie.
@@deewolf1903It’s a kids movie lol. Not that deep.
@@deewolf1903Is he the main character or villain?
Ok but this actually deserves the “when you’re a kid you listen to the song, when you’re older you understand the lyrics” badge
@@flourwasmostlikelyhere oh right so you understand the capitalism terms used here
@@crystallse5432 they dont really try to hide it by the way. i mean, moustachmen against capitalism lmao
@@crystallse5432 bestie they make it very obvious that it's about capitalism
No
@@flourwasmostlikelyhere "bestie" when you are a little kid you're not going to understand what capitalism is
This book was published 1971. One can hope this new generation takes its message to heart, but those that are now in their 50s didn't, so there's no reason to hope.
I literally can listen to this all day
Same here the song gives chills at the end
I like how his level of evil is indicated by his guitar
oh my god your right 😭💀
The guitar is the main villain
@@nattiessreal
@@nattiessguitars 🔪
The power of metal.
“A portion of proceeds go to charity” and them actually giving the money back to themselves is just so realistic
Yeah but people in the comments are crying that the song isnt critical enough of corporations just because they didnt use another song that was “better” and went with this one which is a lot catchier and is fantastic on its own as a song.
@@jaydenshepard7928 to be fair Biggering IS a much better song, but as it is this is a great banger too
@@ironmaster6496 Now that is a reasonable, non whiney position to hold on the matter. I wish all these other people would have just looked at it that way instead of dismissing a genuinely really good song because they became fixated with its original version.
@@jaydenshepard7928 I like this version for how misleading it is. The song is super fun and upbeat but the lyrics are actually super down to earth about corporations.
People who say Biggering is better simply because how sinister it is completely missed the actual point of this song
@@RXQ1jj The message about corporations isn't good though because in real life corporations were the ones who were saving the forests and environmentalists destroyed them because by not regularly cutting down and planting trees, we got the massive year long forest fires across the world that destroyed ecosystems.
I listen to this while I’m deforesting the Minecraft world
Thats... kinda funny 😂
whats better then a normal villain is a villain who has regret for what they've done in their past
yes but
have you forgotten about
the villain who falls in love with the hero
or
the villain who turns good?
@gamer dread I have no idea who that is lol it's on my to=watch list
@@isabellalesher8487 have fun watching 500 episodes of naruto then
bruh it’s not even his fault he became the villain. his fam had hella influence on him because his mom ended up being the one making him cut down the trees and he didn’t wanna let her down and then when he stopped making money, she said “you’ve disappointed me son” like bro it’s so sad if u think about it
And a villain who uses a double bass guitar to chop down trees
Nobody:
The British when they find some new land: 1:59
This needs to be a meme.
Right up until they start taxing the colonies....then they weren't singing anymore...
@@yamiblade Yep, there's a tax for that. Uncool.
And the spanish
HAHAHAHAHA THIS SHOULDNT BE THIS FUNNY
Some people have to realize that this guy is 23 YEARS OLD and literally 90% of his Fangirls are like 13 💀
AYO 💀
They be goin crazy over a cartoon character 😭
@@RandomGamer- ikr like he’s not even that hot 💀
@@RosieDrawzx fr
So? Why you judging those people. I’m sure your crushes weren’t that great looking as well. Proven by whatever atrocity your profile pic is. Let’s do better.
@@RosieDrawzx id fuck him and im a guy 😭
0:41 GYATT(PLS DON'T ASK)
he's so bad 😜
@@boisarecuteness what the fuck gang
The villager after wanting to trade 69 emeralds for one poisonous potato:
so true
Until you pull out the diamond sword with sharpness 5
*reply to smiley* That’s this moment 5:20
So if i give the villager 1 poisonous potato i get 69 emeralds
@@PolishGuy nope, they'll buy 128 poison potatos for one emerald though
"Who cares if the trees are dying?" -The guy who's entire business relies on the survival of trees
Yeah it is a rather dumb thing to say and it is soaked in irony as well but I dunno seems like a pretty important lyric to add to the song cause it really shows his ignorance for how much harm this is truly causing highlighting his unawareness and greed as well as his carelessness
Unintentional commentary on companies favoring short term gains even when it means their business won't be sustainable in the long term
Does he look like a man who studies economics
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 he does
It’s sad cuz he could’ve saved his business and the animals if he would’ve replanted the trees he chopped down.
Classic Supply and Demand. As the demand increased his supply did not
It wasnt until I grew up that I came to realize that The Lorax is one massive critique of capitalism, and its brilliant.
I like how he goes from “How bad can I be? 🤔” to “HOW BAD CAN I BE! 😈”
I like how the song flows from the meaning of "How can I be bad?" to "How bad can I be?"
This is true
One of the true moments
His crusty MOOOOMMMMM-
Yea
Согласен
"PR people are lying, and the lawyers are denying" is a line that can not be more accurate in today's world...
What does it mean?
@@sprinkleconeanimation7938 it means that he is buying out the media and legal system and politician to cover his corruption. Which is very common in the world today
@@sprinkleconeanimation7938 I think it means the lawyers are denying anything wrong with… all this.
The PR people are lying’ this line is referring to the companies PR reps (public relations representatives, basically the people in charge of public outreach and outward image of the company to it’s consumers) are lying about the realities behind the companies practices, such as in the ‘a portion of proceeds goes to charity’ line.
‘And the lawyers are denying’ is essentially saying that the company practices are unethical and harmful, thereby violating the laws that are meant to prevent companies from behaving unethically, so the company lawyers are having to find loopholes and ways to deny that the business practices the company is committing are illegal.
Fr
I love how smooth the transition between the "How bad can this be?" as in, that he's good, to "How bad could I be?", as in a excuse, to "How bad CAN I be?", where he's challenging himself.
Also, this song is just SO iconic.
(I just noticed each time the meaning of "How ba-a-a-ad can i be?" changes, the Once-ler's guitar changes, from a acoustic guitar, to an electric guitar, to a 2 electric guitars bound together)
2:23 Look at him petting this bear
This song is a great representation of the psychological concept of self-justification
Deep.
CEO of Nestle be like.
Especially the 'I'm just doing what comes naturally ' line
The problem is that his social environment even confirms and reinforces the worst of him. Humans usually judge themselves by the people surrounding them, and they reassured his attitude by buying his products.
Look up biggering. It's way better
Say whatever you want about Illumination’s take on The Lorax, but you can’t deny the songs are catchy as heck, especially this one.
Yeah, too bad they cut the og biggering version of the song because of the need of a catchy song to advertise.
@@drippyfrank42068 reallly ironic lmao
@@anyatindall5678 yep. At least we have the demo to listen to
I actually love this movie
@@kidnamedfinger4915 Same
2:01 this part actuallu made me cry so hard, it was actually so emotional. the deep meaning it had made me break down into tears. enough for me to not be able to recover from it. that line changes my mood everytime i hear it or even think about it. anytime I hear it, a tear of sadness rolls down my cheek. I am actually so serious. the $ sign on his back had a deep meaning behind it that I was able to realize. It's like there's a minor great depression happening right now. Illuminations, you have successfully made me depressed for the rest of my life and I hav e realized this world cannot be changed back anymore. I have realized the sad yet horrible truth from that scene and I will never recover in my life again.
It's like I'm wastin g the 70% of water in my body. my eyes have became red fro. crying too hard
where am i?
Shake that bottom line
2:06 THERE IS A OIL 🦅
This song really hits different when you're an adult.
ong I can't believe I was 10 when I seen this movie in the theaters
@@quinceymattox2505 I was 8.
I was 10 too lol
I was 5 and now 14 but i understand the song
As your an adult you will start to realise thiw is the worst adaption ever made
The theme song of Disney destroying the Star Wars franchise .
Oh man, this one hurts
Rogue One, The Mandalorian and The Phineas and Ferb Star Wars Special: DID YOU FORGET ABOUT ME?
@@galegopaulista4564 I love ❤️ that meme 😂
YES
Bruh
Caine after kidnapping multiple people in a circus and literally holding them hostage until they go insane just to be stored away:
Listening to this masterpiece of a villain song after getting disappointed from the "supposed" villain song from Wish. This is how you do it, Disney. Take some notes.
I like how in the song they show how much trees he’s cutting down by showing his guitar getting more and more expensive.
i did not notice that!
Dang,me too
I feel like illumination’s higher-ups didn’t care about the film, but the animators really did, leading to little details like that.
some people have wonderful eyes…
1:19
2:54
the times the guitar changes
He just keeps getting more insane throughout the video
and his guitar continues to increase in size
@@big_stinky3776 His Outfit becomes more Driper....
He kind of reminds me of Chris McLean from Total Drama Island
@@bigthecat9848 I see it, stop 😭
@@bigthecat9848 I see it
" WHO CARES IF A FEW TREES ARE DYING" he says that like a menace
HE DID NOTHING WRONG😭😭
When the villain song is the catchiest song of the movie, there's a problem 😂😂😂love it though
“A portion of proceeds goes to charity”
“Just look at me petting this puppy”
I love how this show-even though it’s a children’s show-expresses the fact that marketers try to appeal to their audiences and the public in order to boost sales and increase buyers and in such a subtle way- bravo the Lorax 👏
It's just to clean up their image, and so they seem like the good guys
@@NixDarkLord and people actually buy it
@@archkull and that's how the economy and capitalism works
Elon musk be like
@@NixDarkLord i get the point youre trying to make but it wouldnt if people werent so purposefully ignorant to what money hungry assholes do and chose not to spend their money on them lol
If people would actually be involved in what bullshit they were wasting money on, these types of corporations wouldnt survive
I love how the instrumentals start off cheery and innocent-like, but slowly starts getting more and more corrupt until the end where it just devolves into just evil.
I mean, it even has the classic nazi march boot sound
The guitar in the beginning had me fooled
Agreed
Wdym he sounds like tobuscus
So do the Lyrics
WE'RE DESTROYING THE ECOSYSTEM WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥
“Who cares if a few trees are dying” I don’t know why but that line always hits hard
I love how they transitioned from innocent to evil and power hungry so smoothly
All while he was ignorant and arrogant of doing so. That’s what makes them the antagonists. In their perspective are always assumptive, ambitious, and they let their overconfidence betray and wipe away their morality for others and their environment before replacing them with the morality of their personality and them thinking that they’re always the protagonist no matter what bad they do.
lol how is this a smooth transition? dude flips in an instant
@@thatoneguy609 I think it's fair to say that the seeds for the change are planted almost as soon as the song starts. There is a definite point when the song changes, if I were to object to the OP I'd say the song was never innocent it was just sinister in a less obvious way
@@NinjaLobsterStudios Even then, in the context of the film, a 3 minute song is an incredibly fast turn around for his character.
@@thatoneguy609❤😊hhg
One thing I love about this song is how it goes from being an innocent question to the demand of a challenge.
266 likes and no replies? Well lemme change that
Yeah it does sound like that
When from a inocent toddler question to a challenge
i was literally coming here to say this
Noodle?
0:01 him: "Bad, im not bad im the good guy here"
Also him 3 minutes later: Cuts down a whole forest and enslaves the fricking animal kingdom without giving a single shit about what he's doing"
Welp the end of this movie made me cry when I was younger especially the quote at the end. I always thought I was a baby for that but after revisiting this & seeing this I can see why. Definitely some powerful messages and portrayals.
The fact that this song can be applied to every single big company nowadays is both hilarious and horrifying
Roblox
@@BigShot78Real amog us
Yes 2:01 is really great for marketing
@@AshadedLightASL among us isnt really a big company
TH-cam 😏
The way the question “How bad can I be?” changes from an excuse to a challenge is sinister and ingenious.
Yeah it does sound like that
Yep
How bad can it possibly be?
It went from a normal question to a rhetorical question
yeah it’s like “how bad am I” to “how much bad things can I do”
1:13 I’m sorry but the creators just had to make the table crawl so..
Terraria players completing the game after decimating 99% of the natural ecosystem, social structure, and historical monuments:
Better be wearing the TV head costume set.
why tf is this actually a bop why am i unironically listening to this
NAHQKJEHQ SAME 💀
Biggering is far better imo
@@whatislife5627 not realy
@@whatislife5627 so what? Really why do you feel the need to say that. Can we just enjoy the fucking song and say that we enjoy it without one of you pointing out you like the other one better. Don’t answer that, I’ve checked the answer is a quite decisive “no”
@@whatislife5627 by the way, 2 replies new record
This is the most capitalist song I have ever seen
Edit: stop posting comments of songs that are "more capitalist"
Edit 2: I'm not a socialist.
You haven’t heard “Capitalism” by Oingo Boingo
hahah listen to biggering a deleted song from this movie omg its a masterpiece
it is, quite literally. while pretending to be anti-corporate theyre actually pro-corporate for portraying the onceler as a good innocent guy who doesnt know that what hes doing is bad until the very end, biggering is way better, more realistic and true the OG.
theres a huge difference between "Who cares if some.. THINGS are dying!"(biggering) and "Who cares if a few trees are dying!"(how bad can i be)
Listen to the money game part 2, the she sells sea shells part is basically this
@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 I feel like that was the point. In that he literally did not care what he was doing just like all corporations. He’s saying his bad can he be because he doesn’t care about anything he’s doing. He doesn’t think it’s bad, because he’s not thinking about it. He’s only thinking about the profit, and that’s what corporations do. They ignore it and think that what they’re doing isn’t that much compared to everyone else. Why do you think media keeps asking regular people to stop doing things to ruin the earth, when it’s actually big business doing it
Damn i gotta rewatch the lorax
Fr fr it’s impeccable
Me destroying the villagers house:
still 10x better than "i let you live here for free, and i don't even charge you for rent"
When was that line?
@@tonypringles2285From Disney Wish
@tonyprintles2285 it’s a reference to This Is The Thanks I Get!? from Wish.
One of the things that I always liked about this as a villain song was that at the beginning of the song, Onceler genuinely doesn't see what he's doing as being a bad thing and the question of "How bad can I be?" Is more of a, "it's no big deal" dismissal, but by the end of the song, it's more of a challenge to himself to see what he can get away with.
From my perspective, its an attempt to place corporate high ups in an innocent position. They want you to relate them to the onceler and how he was forced into it by his family. Biggering is much better symbolism imo as it shows what they are actually like( Why it was cut)
Onceler is not the villain the real villain is the customer, onceler just too foolish he doesnt plant the tree back
@@ohno676 and that's how brainwashing gets you. No, the onceler is the villain
@@Mqstodon yes but also an idiot for not thinking about replanting
@@Aquabzs it's called being conditioned.
It's not the consumer's fault.
As a person from the future I have come to announce that the song is still a banger🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
2:35 they all came for this absolute D major💀
COPPA after turning off Movieclip's comments on their 'How Bad Can I Be' scene.
Edit: I meant comments, not moments. Thank you.
Edit 2: Replaced Movieclips with COPPA.
lol
It was COPPA 😔
Fuck COPPA
if COPPA didn’t exist, the comments section would have over 100,000 comments
Cause they know how bad the comments will be XD
Say what you want about this movie, but some of the songs were way better than they should've been
This song goes hard
Are you here after listening to Biggering too?
ngl the movie is decent
Yeah
some of them were! not this one, though. :)
2:52. ONCE-LER: "And the lawyers are denying!"
2:57. ONCE-LER: "Who cares if a few trees are dying!"
Think about it if he didn’t invite his family after the Thneed became popular and he promised the Lorax he wouldn’t cut down trees ,the trees would’ve still been there.
It went from "How bad am I?" to a challenge like "How much worse can I get?"
yep
couldn't have said it better myself
And the thing is later the only thing he coulda done worse was manually committing genocide.
Yep
Oh, I like it so much! How the meaning of this phrase is changing during the song❤
I LOVE his outfit
mkamsmssjjss
Agreed
U gave a 100 likes im not gonna ruin it
DONT LET HIS OUTFIT DECIVE YOU
@@chezcake7525 JZI2JD
Why does this song slap so hard?
Hurting people and things to meet your goals. That’s a new one
Not only does this song become more relevant every single year, it's also still catchy as hell
A few facts. I can even consider this one to be the definitive song where Locopoton1 goes too onboard on killing the Loud Sisters. I can hear him singing to this song alongside with the likes of Dreadpool, Yuujirou (Yujiro) Hanma, Tetsuo Shima, Evil!Ren Hoek, Griffith, Thragg, Homelander and several others.
This is basically "Industrial Revolution And It's Consequences Has Been A Disaster For Human Race"
@@maxleon61702 what
@@PhineasFerb001 it's a copypasta
@@anonymousfish2456 ok? It still makes no fucking sense
When I get an extra McNugget, but I don’t tell the cashier:
Lmao
Or when u get an extra Chicken Sandwich at Chick Fil A
when kfc and mcdonalds responds to vegan teacher belike:
Lmfao
Lmfao
We love u whoever enjoys movies like this
sirously how can he be? a human cant be that bad?
I like how his guitar becomes slowly more and more badass.
😃😃ya!
It represents how excessive and over the top his actions are, because a guitar doesn't need to look like that to play properly yet he still bought it and replaced his simple not over the top guitar that played perfectly even though it looked simplistic and was maybe even cheap.
@@ArranBringerSterloidDoogan yo Socrates it's a fucking Pixar movie
@@JPEG_cat yo dumbass, it's an illumination movie, and it is very clearly trying to push a message
@@JPEG_cat 🦧
I didn't think it was possible to make "Who cares if a few trees are dying?!" sound ominous, threatening, and scary at the same time, but the voice behind this guy managed to pull it off somehow :/ bravo.
Ed Helms aka Andy from the office!
Yoi should listen to biggering the cut song from this film it has "who cares if a few things are dying?!" and sounds way scarier than this
As someone already stated, a cut song called biggering uses the line "who cares if some things are dying" and it actually makes the once-ler look like a villain in this story.
*laughs in biggering*
mr.beast dose
Hello from 2024
Just remembered that this movie exist while watching tv about news nowadays
*yeah, why the heck they turn off the comments cause of "kids"* :v
James 4:13-14.
The best song for capitalism
True
*communism
@@TreeMystical "How retarded can I possibly be?"
Been a while since I had a good eyeroll, thanks.
Communism, actually.
2:13 the boy who sold goku drawings in elementary be like:
XD
You just made me unlock my hidden memories
I sold math questions
XD
I sold pictures of Disneyland rides. Safe to say I didn’t make a lot.