Thanks for the video👍 I started installing Goodman in the mid 90’s. I found them to be reliable units with few problems during my time in HVAC. I did have a leaker on one condensing unit straight from the factory 😟but of the dozens I have installed over the years they have held up quite well. I prefer to use the basic models as most of the home owners I dealt with wanted to keep the price down. As you said getting parts for Goodman is easy with no warranty problems from my supply house which is Johnstone Supply. In 1994, I installed a 5 ton Goodman heat pump on a church. It is still running today and the only repairs I have done is replace the fan motor. Anyway I absolutely enjoy your videos, keep them coming. God Bless!
I have been selling Goodman since the 80's and they don't fail any more than any other brand. All have their problems. After warranty runs out you can still afford to repair a Goodman. I still service 40 year old Goodmans. Remember they all make heat and cooling the same way.
@@davidsanders6957Diyer/ Handyman here..... 9 years ago I installed GOODMAN Completed AC and Heating gas furnace until today September 21, 2024 it's Still Working good without any issue. First time Try out no Background of HVAC System but have been watching TH-cam videos for one year before I started to install 😅😂😊
25 year old Rheem/Corsaire unit still working here. Added a couple of pounds of r-22 about four years ago. Three capacitors in the a/c, and two igniters, one flame detector, and a new control board in the furnace. That's it. Not a pro, but I do my own work.
I’ve been a service technician since 1990 in the state of Michigan, and if you’re talking about heat pumps that’s a whole different thing but when it comes to gas furnace and a/c Amana and Goodman have the best heat exchangers in the business followed by Rheem and Ruud and that’s a fact!
Out of the box suggestion for the blooming onion case: How about putting a ratchet strap around the panels as you try to get them together and lined up? You can gradually increase the tension as you go around fit it all back together.
I have a Rheem Classic 3 ton heat pump over 20 years old not any issues. My neighbor put one in last year already replaced a compressor and a coil. They are NOT happy about it either.
I put in Goodman. The simple , no frills ones. Lately when I install a new outdoor unit I replace the capacitor with an Amrad cap because the Goodman caps suck. I like the fact that I can fix them quickly if there is trouble and that’s important here in Georgia.
Love your channel Zack. Common sense humor. I have a 1985 Janitrol 2.5 still running here. I think they probably still build them well enough to outlast the next refrigerant ban or phase out. I don’t care what the reputation of Goodman is, you can get parts without a 2 week wait and they are half the cost. On my replacement, I might even just buy an extra for a backup. Goodman = freedom from those patented and planned obsolescence refrigerants. Oh, did I forget to say that the HVAC company of record here is afraid to work on my unit because they can just sell me one of their new fave $15,000 units every warranty cycle.
I like Goodman the same as any other . We became a society that throws away and buys new ( can’t think of the word brain isn’t awake enough yet ) sometime in the mid to late 90s and manufacturers realized they can’t make money if a unit runs for ever . Ehhh they all break and need fixed . That’s why we exist.
my rent houses all get Goodmans. Parts are available, 10 year warranty, reasonable price (especially since I don’t buy 100’s of units / year). Nothing fancy, just cool air. my humble opinion
Locally most HVAC contractors only install Goodman, York or Tempstar. One reason is parts availability. If you had to choose between the three, which would be the best for total cost over time? Is it no longer expected that a new HVAC system last 20 years?
@@HVACShopTalk - thanks. As an aside I'll add another random data point to your "old equipment was built more ruggedly" claim. We purchased our 3500 sq-ft home in 2013 here in the SF Bay Area. When we moved in I noticed our 115k BTU Coleman gas furnace was installed Sept 22, 1986. Over that past 10 years I've been hoping our furnace would die so that I could replace it with a new furnace but it just won't die. During the past 10 years I have DIY replaced the HSI/flame rod ($10) and the original RobertShaw ignition control module ($150). I also go crazy with CO detectors in every part of the house. I might give up and replace the furnace anyway but the thought crossed my mind that a brand new furnace might not last as long as just keeping our existing 38 y/o furnace.
Main issue going forward is that Goodman has become known as being okay without being all too great of quality, and now they are going to be the sole brand running R32 which runs at a higher pressure. If they have any issues because of trying to maintain higher pressure then it gives more ammo to the Big 3 to keep R454B around. I think every brand should have redesigned and made all systems for R32 instead of R454B since R454B is going to get banned in the near future anyways.
I have two 2007 vintage Goodman GSH units that came with the house I bought in 2009. When I bought the place after the 2008 crash, I got a pretty good deal on the property which hadn't seen much for occupancy. The two Goodman units had already been fairly well compromised at installation by the looks of the connections on the line set. (Truly bizarre 'made-from'scrap' patchwork tubing on the vapor side...) The west unit would run and made some cool air, but the air handler sounded like it was coming through the ceiling. The east unit ran as quiet as a Goodman can, but blew NO cold air. The west unit needed a blower fan in the air handler that had all the vanes in it, and the outside unit had the wrong run cap. (55 mf instead of 80) Once fixed up, it did pretty well. Not super efficient but it blew good cold air with a good DT across the coil. The east unit had no orifice in it. None. I found it years later when I cleaned the coils and washed out the pan. There was the orifice in its neat little plastic bag on the floor under the Scroll compressor. The installers burnt all the service valves on the two units and I struggled to keep 'em from leaking but I DID find a 'happy spots' for the after a fashion. The east unit still has the same burnt up service valves, but the west unit has been apart several times now for various problems (that stupid filter/drier inside the unit for one thing), so I've since replaced the service valves. Both units have nice soft start units that allow me to operate them on my 8500 KW generator, and the easy start function has made a huge difference in how they sound starting up. The west unit has a little leak in heat mode on the outdoor coil so I have to add a lb or two of refrigerant in the spring before cooling season. I did retrofit the west unit with a TXV which helps in the heat of the summer with humidity control as well as comfort cooling. The west unit is running R458A since it has mineral oil, and the 458A does a marvelous job and is about half the cost of a jug of R-22 these days. The east unit still has its original charge from 2007, although I have had to add a couple pounds over the years due to the slightly leaking service valves. The east unit service valves will be replace when I remove the charge and install a TXV this coming fall or spring when I cut out the original filter/drier from inside. All in all - I'm perfectly happy with them for the vintage. I did have to replace the evap coil on the west side and have a spare for the east unit as well if/when I need it. But for the price of new ones, I'll stick with these old blisters until I get too old to fix 'em. Just coming out of a LONG hot summer of about 6 months of 100+ days. (Some of 'em a LOT hotter) The old Goodmans are still working, but I can tell they are enjoying the milder temps! ;) Be well Zach...
I have been happy with both of the Goodman units I bought in 2016. I've had no problems with them. I think a lot of it comes down to the quality of the install and doing regular cleaning and maintenance on the units.
I live in LasVegas, have 2 3.5 tons in my house, been in for over 18 years ,only thing I have ever done to them is routine maintenance and one condenser fan motor and our summers start in April plus 3 of the summer .months run in the 110 degree range. Couldn't ask for a better unit
I remember the first Goodman I installed. It came with a box that had 5 different badges in it. All 5 were president name. I only remember 2 of them now, "Franklin and Washington".
The blooming onion reference is a good one,i put a goodman package unit in for a guy 6 or 7 years ago,he uses it just for cooling. Never had no problems with it yet but he calls me every spring to clean it,i dread tsking them screws out and pannels off,its a bitch to put back together also
I have sold Goodmans and Amana. Even went out to TX to their factory. Go if you ever get invited. Most of all issues with AC’s is the installation. Had very good luck with Goodmans. All AC brands have issues. Most of the issues we would find was from installation problems. S FL was a clearing house for poor installations. I’ll sell a Goodman anytime. 😊
The modern Goodman equipment is no different than any other. Especially if you go with the 2 stage,inverter or the new SD inverter. Warranty is the best in the game and your not getting ripped on price like some other brands. The only issue I’ve had is the controls are cheaper quality and tend to be a pain for start up and commissioning. I’d take a Goodman all day over a Lennox that has constant leak issues on evap coils and the aluminum outdoor coils.
I install Goodman and have only had 1 bad defrost sensor. I know I’m lucky. I don’t wanna even think about putting those blooming onions back together.
I'm like you, the same thought process. Very happy with All Payne, Thempstar, Day &Night all Rebadged Carrier lines to me less prune to fail. I guess they just changed Payne to something else if the parts not inferior lower grade than what Carrier or Bryant put in their unit
You're so spot on about Goodman being the Devil I know. We complain, and make fun of them but can basically fix anything on them with your eyes closed. And even their new lids still suck! I like Carrier. That might be mostly because my carrier dealer is so awesome and they have everything in stock. Thanks Zack. Love you buddy!
The only thing I don't like about Goodman is how they install the filter-drier inside the condenser. That means any work that requires replacing the filter-drier also requires recovering the refrigerant and working inside the condenser. If I were buying a new system today, it would probably be Goodman or RunTru. I like the easy online availability of those brands (and I've always wanted to try a Spine Fin coil). It's very egalitarian how anyone can buy them. If a company is so snobby that they limit who can buy their equipment, it's too highfalutin for me.
My Goodman is just fine. 4 Ton system and I've only had to replace the Cap once however you mentioned the panels on the Condenser Unit - Holy Guacamole dude what a pain in the ass. I finally tack welded them all to it's neighboring panel so they don't pop out anymore.
Wasn't there a time when techs bashed Nordyne units? I personally have a Miller-branded electric furnace. All it ever needed was a buzzing contactor replaced to get rid of the noise in the house.
I would like to see Goodman use better fan blades and add pressure switches. They're not bad as they are, but could be greatly improved without a lot of extra cost. My neighborhood was built in the mid to late 80's and there are still several of those old Janitrols still plugging along with original compressors. One that I check annually is a 1986 heat pump. I don't expect the current ones to still be around in 30+ years. I had a Goodman tech service guy blame the 2008 leaking reversing valves on insufficient return air.
Had me tickled with a few of those comments. I feel bad for people that have them at their homes. Like you said, they used to be workhorses and now they are terrible. The only unit on the market that has a one time use screw before the hole strips out. I hope they pull it together and start making a product like the old days, but I already know those days are gone. Thanks for the video.
Goodman is just about cutting corners to lower the price. In AZ you can't do that and be happy. I found ICP to be the best bang for buck. But but will go with American Standard or Carrier (aluminum coil) for next unit on my rental. Have a 2012 Trane XB13 with a 2001 Goodman air handler with 2017 evap and motor. Still running well. In AZ, replace caps every 4 years, every 9 if AMRAD.
Doing the tupaware dance while the customer watches you cussing their unit. Lol. I get a lot of roof top units out here and I like the Goodmans for the fact of they are simple to access and work on. I don't care what kinda motors are in them or what not if we can match the power and amps, just get it done for the price the customer can afford. I don't mind getting rid of those variable speed motors or putting a universal 1 back in. I'm like u just make it work right and get on.
I mostly install goodman/daikin. Brand really doesn't mean anything. The life expectancy of a system heavily relies on a quality install, and annual services.
Who manufactures their own compressors beside Trane? Just like everyone else they use the same compressors so beside sheet metal what is the difference?
I have always heard goodman was junk. I have a 1996 Goodman 3 ton still going. Today your lucky if any brand will go 5 years with out having a leaking coil.
We bought our house in North Texas in late 1995. It had an 11 year old 5 ton ICP (Day & Night) unit for the main part of the house. In early summer 1996 it failed, and the house sale included a 'warranty' from "a leading home warranty company". The local HVAC contractor working for the home warranty company installed a comparatively tiny 5 ton 10 SEER Goodman (I don't have the model number but it was one of their quintessential tan squares). It had a Bristol compressor, and when it ran it sounded like a Husqvarna chain saw. The unit came with a 1 year parts warranty, and it included a coupon to send to Goodman to get a 5 year compressor warranty for $99. I did that. In August of 2001, the Bristol compressor died - 2 months out of "extended" warranty. By then, the capacitor, condenser fan motor, and contactor had been replaced. I got only 5 years out of that POS Goodman. I replaced the Goodman with a Lennox HS29--050 that ran quiet and lasted for 18 years.
Daikin condenser is the worst. They took the Goodman and turned all the louvred sideways removing any ability for the customer to clean their own condenser without fully disassembling it.
All early Units Were better . capacitors, less electronics. No variable speed captubes rule Mechanical Is Was better than electronics. Those days are over. Filling up the scrap yards tragic. Today's compressors Are Smaller better.
Thanks for the video👍 I started installing Goodman in the mid 90’s. I found them to be reliable units with few problems during my time in HVAC. I did have a leaker on one condensing unit straight from the factory 😟but of the dozens I have installed over the years
they have held up quite well. I prefer to use the basic models as most of the home owners I dealt with wanted to keep the price down. As you said getting parts for Goodman is easy with no warranty problems from my supply house which is Johnstone Supply. In 1994, I installed a 5 ton Goodman heat pump on a church. It is still running today and the only repairs I have done is replace the fan motor.
Anyway I absolutely enjoy your videos, keep them coming. God Bless!
I have been selling Goodman since the 80's and they don't fail any more than any other brand. All have their problems. After warranty runs out you can still afford to repair a Goodman. I still service 40 year old Goodmans. Remember they all make heat and cooling the same way.
There all only as good as the install,Goodman does the job
Yeah,they do !! Truth be told, you basically GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Don't get me wrong, for what they are, well, is what they are.
And FYI, 30+year technician here.
@@davidsanders6957Diyer/ Handyman here..... 9 years ago I installed GOODMAN Completed AC and Heating gas furnace until today September 21, 2024 it's Still Working good without any issue. First time Try out no Background of HVAC System but have been watching TH-cam videos for one year before I started to install 😅😂😊
Installed Goodman for over 30 years
Only replaced one reversing valve. Blower relays all the time.
25 year old Rheem/Corsaire unit still working here. Added a couple of pounds of r-22 about four years ago. Three capacitors in the a/c, and two igniters, one flame detector, and a new control board in the furnace. That's it. Not a pro, but I do my own work.
Daikan/Amana/Goodman are like carrier icp imo. You can get it all from mild to wild while still being relatively affordable
Best unit out there. I’ve had two over 20 years old. Only cap replacement and condenser fans.
I’ve been a service technician since 1990 in the state of Michigan, and if you’re talking about heat pumps that’s a whole different thing but when it comes to gas furnace and a/c Amana and Goodman have the best heat exchangers in the business followed by Rheem and Ruud and that’s a fact!
Out of the box suggestion for the blooming onion case: How about putting a ratchet strap around the panels as you try to get them together and lined up? You can gradually increase the tension as you go around fit it all back together.
I'm just a Handyman and I installed GOODMAN Completed AC and Heating gas furnace 80% system 9 years ago and still running good without any issue 😅😂👍
I have a Rheem Classic 3 ton heat pump over 20 years old not any issues. My neighbor put one in last year already replaced a compressor and a coil. They are NOT happy about it either.
I put in Goodman. The simple , no frills ones. Lately when I install a new outdoor unit I replace the capacitor with an Amrad cap because the Goodman caps suck. I like the fact that I can fix them quickly if there is trouble and that’s important here in Georgia.
Love your channel Zack. Common sense humor.
I have a 1985 Janitrol 2.5 still running here. I think they probably still build them well enough to outlast the next refrigerant ban or phase out. I don’t care what the reputation of Goodman is, you can get parts without a 2 week wait and they are half the cost. On my replacement, I might even just buy an extra for a backup. Goodman = freedom from those patented and planned obsolescence refrigerants.
Oh, did I forget to say that the HVAC company of record here is afraid to work on my unit because they can just sell me one of their new fave $15,000 units every warranty cycle.
I like Goodman the same as any other . We became a society that throws away and buys new ( can’t think of the word brain isn’t awake enough yet ) sometime in the mid to late 90s and manufacturers realized they can’t make money if a unit runs for ever . Ehhh they all break and need fixed . That’s why we exist.
my rent houses all get Goodmans. Parts are available, 10 year warranty, reasonable price (especially since I don’t buy 100’s of units / year). Nothing fancy, just cool air. my humble opinion
Locally most HVAC contractors only install Goodman, York or Tempstar. One reason is parts availability. If you had to choose between the three, which would be the best for total cost over time? Is it no longer expected that a new HVAC system last 20 years?
They made reasonable good units…. I have some Goodman heating troubleshooting videos uploaded ,
Great video. I'm curious if this also applies to Goodman gas furnaces? Where I live there is little need for an A/C.
My whole career was spent in heat pump territory, so I’m not the best man to answer that
@@HVACShopTalk - thanks. As an aside I'll add another random data point to your "old equipment was built more ruggedly" claim. We purchased our 3500 sq-ft home in 2013 here in the SF Bay Area. When we moved in I noticed our 115k BTU Coleman gas furnace was installed Sept 22, 1986. Over that past 10 years I've been hoping our furnace would die so that I could replace it with a new furnace but it just won't die. During the past 10 years I have DIY replaced the HSI/flame rod ($10) and the original RobertShaw ignition control module ($150). I also go crazy with CO detectors in every part of the house. I might give up and replace the furnace anyway but the thought crossed my mind that a brand new furnace might not last as long as just keeping our existing 38 y/o furnace.
We did York back in the late 70 & early 80s then went to Temptstar till 98 then janatrol & Gnc for a =n try & then tried Goodman & now Rheem
Main issue going forward is that Goodman has become known as being okay without being all too great of quality, and now they are going to be the sole brand running R32 which runs at a higher pressure. If they have any issues because of trying to maintain higher pressure then it gives more ammo to the Big 3 to keep R454B around. I think every brand should have redesigned and made all systems for R32 instead of R454B since R454B is going to get banned in the near future anyways.
I have two 2007 vintage Goodman GSH units that came with the house I bought in 2009. When I bought the place after the 2008 crash, I got a pretty good deal on the property which hadn't seen much for occupancy. The two Goodman units had already been fairly well compromised at installation by the looks of the connections on the line set. (Truly bizarre 'made-from'scrap' patchwork tubing on the vapor side...) The west unit would run and made some cool air, but the air handler sounded like it was coming through the ceiling. The east unit ran as quiet as a Goodman can, but blew NO cold air.
The west unit needed a blower fan in the air handler that had all the vanes in it, and the outside unit had the wrong run cap. (55 mf instead of 80) Once fixed up, it did pretty well. Not super efficient but it blew good cold air with a good DT across the coil.
The east unit had no orifice in it. None. I found it years later when I cleaned the coils and washed out the pan. There was the orifice in its neat little plastic bag on the floor under the Scroll compressor.
The installers burnt all the service valves on the two units and I struggled to keep 'em from leaking but I DID find a 'happy spots' for the after a fashion. The east unit still has the same burnt up service valves, but the west unit has been apart several times now for various problems (that stupid filter/drier inside the unit for one thing), so I've since replaced the service valves.
Both units have nice soft start units that allow me to operate them on my 8500 KW generator, and the easy start function has made a huge difference in how they sound starting up. The west unit has a little leak in heat mode on the outdoor coil so I have to add a lb or two of refrigerant in the spring before cooling season. I did retrofit the west unit with a TXV which helps in the heat of the summer with humidity control as well as comfort cooling.
The west unit is running R458A since it has mineral oil, and the 458A does a marvelous job and is about half the cost of a jug of R-22 these days. The east unit still has its original charge from 2007, although I have had to add a couple pounds over the years due to the slightly leaking service valves. The east unit service valves will be replace when I remove the charge and install a TXV this coming fall or spring when I cut out the original filter/drier from inside.
All in all - I'm perfectly happy with them for the vintage. I did have to replace the evap coil on the west side and have a spare for the east unit as well if/when I need it. But for the price of new ones, I'll stick with these old blisters until I get too old to fix 'em. Just coming out of a LONG hot summer of about 6 months of 100+ days. (Some of 'em a LOT hotter) The old Goodmans are still working, but I can tell they are enjoying the milder temps! ;)
Be well Zach...
I have been happy with both of the Goodman units I bought in 2016. I've had no problems with them. I think a lot of it comes down to the quality of the install and doing regular cleaning and maintenance on the units.
I live in LasVegas, have 2 3.5 tons in my house, been in for over 18 years ,only thing I have ever done to them is routine maintenance and one condenser fan motor and our summers start in April plus 3 of the summer .months run in the 110 degree range.
Couldn't ask for a better unit
I remember the first Goodman I installed. It came with a box that had 5 different badges in it. All 5 were president name. I only remember 2 of them now, "Franklin and Washington".
The blooming onion reference is a good one,i put a goodman package unit in for a guy 6 or 7 years ago,he uses it just for cooling. Never had no problems with it yet but he calls me every spring to clean it,i dread tsking them screws out and pannels off,its a bitch to put back together also
6:49 “it was so bad that I switched to York, I SWITCHED TO YORK.”
I have sold Goodmans and Amana. Even went out to TX to their factory. Go if you ever get invited. Most of all issues with AC’s is the installation. Had very good luck with Goodmans. All AC brands have issues. Most of the issues we would find was from installation problems. S FL was a clearing house for poor installations. I’ll sell a Goodman anytime. 😊
I just bought Goodman furnace and ac. 10 year warranty is a 10 year warranty. I hope it lasts.
The modern Goodman equipment is no different than any other. Especially if you go with the 2 stage,inverter or the new SD inverter. Warranty is the best in the game and your not getting ripped on price like some other brands. The only issue I’ve had is the controls are cheaper quality and tend to be a pain for start up and commissioning. I’d take a Goodman all day over a Lennox that has constant leak issues on evap coils and the aluminum outdoor coils.
I install Goodman and have only had 1 bad defrost sensor. I know I’m lucky. I don’t wanna even think about putting those blooming onions back together.
I'm like you, the same thought process. Very happy with All Payne, Thempstar, Day &Night all Rebadged Carrier lines to me less prune to fail. I guess they just changed Payne to something else if the parts not inferior lower grade than what Carrier or Bryant put in their unit
You're so spot on about Goodman being the Devil I know. We complain, and make fun of them but can basically fix anything on them with your eyes closed. And even their new lids still suck! I like Carrier. That might be mostly because my carrier dealer is so awesome and they have everything in stock. Thanks Zack. Love you buddy!
I still have some of these things out there!
The onions are horrible to clean. And so many screws !
The only thing I don't like about Goodman is how they install the filter-drier inside the condenser. That means any work that requires replacing the filter-drier also requires recovering the refrigerant and working inside the condenser. If I were buying a new system today, it would probably be Goodman or RunTru. I like the easy online availability of those brands (and I've always wanted to try a Spine Fin coil). It's very egalitarian how anyone can buy them. If a company is so snobby that they limit who can buy their equipment, it's too highfalutin for me.
My Goodman is just fine. 4 Ton system and I've only had to replace the Cap once however you mentioned the panels on the Condenser Unit - Holy Guacamole dude what a pain in the ass. I finally tack welded them all to it's neighboring panel so they don't pop out anymore.
Kind of reminds me of my 78 Dodge power wagon I had to keep a couple ballast resistors in the glove box
Wasn't there a time when techs bashed Nordyne units? I personally have a Miller-branded electric furnace. All it ever needed was a buzzing contactor replaced to get rid of the noise in the house.
I would like to see Goodman use better fan blades and add pressure switches. They're not bad as they are, but could be greatly improved without a lot of extra cost. My neighborhood was built in the mid to late 80's and there are still several of those old Janitrols still plugging along with original compressors. One that I check annually is a 1986 heat pump. I don't expect the current ones to still be around in 30+ years.
I had a Goodman tech service guy blame the 2008 leaking reversing valves on insufficient return air.
My favorite system is the LG ducted mini split. My budget system is definitely a Goodman.
I have had good luck with Goodman
Had me tickled with a few of those comments. I feel bad for people that have them at their homes. Like you said, they used to be workhorses and now they are terrible. The only unit on the market that has a one time use screw before the hole strips out. I hope they pull it together and start making a product like the old days, but I already know those days are gone. Thanks for the video.
Goodman is just about cutting corners to lower the price. In AZ you can't do that and be happy. I found ICP to be the best bang for buck. But but will go with American Standard or Carrier (aluminum coil) for next unit on my rental. Have a 2012 Trane XB13 with a 2001 Goodman air handler with 2017 evap and motor. Still running well. In AZ, replace caps every 4 years, every 9 if AMRAD.
Doing the tupaware dance while the customer watches you cussing their unit. Lol. I get a lot of roof top units out here and I like the Goodmans for the fact of they are simple to access and work on. I don't care what kinda motors are in them or what not if we can match the power and amps, just get it done for the price the customer can afford. I don't mind getting rid of those variable speed motors or putting a universal 1 back in. I'm like u just make it work right and get on.
My first Goodman 18 years old I only changed it because of age not failure…3 caps one contacter in 18 years new one runs perfect saving electric
Nothing runs like a Goodman.
😅❤😂 that's True 👍 I'm just a Handyman and I installed GOODMAN Completed AC and Heating gas furnace 80 system 9 years ago and still doing good 😅
I have witnessed all of the "good" brands quality go down hill as well. I trust goodman, we will see about the new compressors.
@justicemeans, 'new compressors'?? are the days of Copeland gone? replaced by LG or inferior build quality 'off brand' compressors?
yes sir done a lot of Janatrol GNC Then Goodman name
It's hard to beat the Goodman single and two stage units for the price. Nearly all of them can be fixed with universal parts off the truck.
I have a 10 to 13 year old Goodman that recently started having cooling issues and the tech said it was leaking.
Leaks, capacitor, and motors. There is certainly lots of them in Michigan. All brands now a days have issues in quality.
Goodman was good man but now they went so backwards selling to anyone idk if they can recover from that one
Hey Zach hope all is well. I like Rheem
I mostly install goodman/daikin. Brand really doesn't mean anything. The life expectancy of a system heavily relies on a quality install, and annual services.
Great video zack
Who manufactures their own compressors beside Trane? Just like everyone else they use the same compressors so beside sheet metal what is the difference?
goodman is using rotary compressors in many of their lower end units - buy a carrier, lennox etc and it will have a lg or copeland scroll.
@@Jon-hx7pe Okay but Goodman has a really good warranty 10ys +
@@allencarroll8868 that's pretty standard and labor + refirgerant to do a compressor gets expensive.
I have always heard goodman was junk. I have a 1996 Goodman 3 ton still going. Today your lucky if any brand will go 5 years with out having a leaking coil.
We have a 1997 Goodman heat pump still working.
Ok what is the best unit ? Trane think not Ted is always replacing them
Can you do a piece on Lennox please.
Today Lennox have lots of leaking coils. They used to be one of the best.
We bought our house in North Texas in late 1995. It had an 11 year old 5 ton ICP (Day & Night) unit for the main part of the house. In early summer 1996 it failed, and the house sale included a 'warranty' from "a leading home warranty company". The local HVAC contractor working for the home warranty company installed a comparatively tiny 5 ton 10 SEER Goodman (I don't have the model number but it was one of their quintessential tan squares). It had a Bristol compressor, and when it ran it sounded like a Husqvarna chain saw. The unit came with a 1 year parts warranty, and it included a coupon to send to Goodman to get a 5 year compressor warranty for $99. I did that. In August of 2001, the Bristol compressor died - 2 months out of "extended" warranty. By then, the capacitor, condenser fan motor, and contactor had been replaced. I got only 5 years out of that POS Goodman. I replaced the Goodman with a Lennox HS29--050 that ran quiet and lasted for 18 years.
Daikin condenser is the worst. They took the Goodman and turned all the louvred sideways removing any ability for the customer to clean their own condenser without fully disassembling it.
They’re Good, not Greatman.
If I don't post a comment you don't know me! 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Here is my comment.
In my opinion Lennox is the equipment you should be worried about. Lennox is trash!
Goodmans are built cheap and their replacement parts come with horrible warranties compared to other manufacturers.
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Goodman is my least favorite brand after almost 6 years in the trade. They’re cheap but you get what you pay for.
All early Units Were better . capacitors, less electronics. No variable speed captubes rule Mechanical Is Was better than electronics.
Those days are over. Filling up the scrap yards tragic.
Today's compressors Are Smaller better.
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As soon as they stopped using Copeland compressors, I switched to Carrier brands. To much made in China writing as them now.
They still use Copeland scroll compressors. You can order them with either the scroll or the rotary compressor.
Carrier is using LG compressors in their lower line
They still use Copeland compressor.
goodman sucks ass, some of the 80s ones were ok.