5 Minute History Lesson, Episode 3: Robbers Cave

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2015
  • The Cummings Center introduces a new series of short films from the Archives of the History of American Psychology.
    The series tells stories of people, objects, and topics found in our archives, and includes collection notes. If you are interested in doing some related research. (All on- and off-site research requests can be directed to ahap@uakron.edu.)
    Episode 3: Robbers Cave
    This film is protected under Title 17 of the United States Code. For access and application for use contact CCHP at ahap@uakron.edu.

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  • @ShaunC47
    @ShaunC47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    Who's here because of school

    • @isabellaanguiano7508
      @isabellaanguiano7508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      me

    • @aisha-be8sq
      @aisha-be8sq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes and i need help... what did the children think they were doing? i watched the vid a hundred times and nothing registering ughh

    • @wedimeakele2748
      @wedimeakele2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here

    • @johhada9304
      @johhada9304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Still haven't gotten over the name "Cummings Center for the History of Psychology" so i haven't learned shit

    • @ppmuncher76
      @ppmuncher76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mee

  • @mysteryinc8131
    @mysteryinc8131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    basically lord of the flies

  • @smritystha8545
    @smritystha8545 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    This really helped a lot to understand the experiment.

  • @OfftoShambala
    @OfftoShambala 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Working together for something better for both groups dissipates prejudice. A conclusion worth considering.

  • @SuperFetaCheese
    @SuperFetaCheese 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for keeping it short as well!

  • @IAm1InTheIAm
    @IAm1InTheIAm ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I knew Muzafer Sherif personally in the later years of his life. He explained these concepts to me, and I have utilized his methods in successfully navigating and resolving group conflict. The world is currently at a precipice where these concepts, specifically, Superordinate Goals, may apply and literally avert WW3/nuclear annihilation. Anyone out there make this connection? This may be Muzafer's gift to humanity.

  • @iam_aiko
    @iam_aiko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This video is super clear and I love the explanation! Unfortunately the singing noise in the background is really bad....

  • @alisonm5568
    @alisonm5568 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is a really useful summary of the study. Thanks

  • @learningpsychologynet
    @learningpsychologynet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is really helpful. Thank you very much for this historic video material.

  • @yaluminous08
    @yaluminous08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was learning this in class

  • @olvinyldude
    @olvinyldude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was interesting...Thanx for sharing this...Live near there, & never heard of this...

  • @lisainatree
    @lisainatree 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for creating this

  • @knabellaks
    @knabellaks หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent work!

  • @tipple58
    @tipple58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Surprisingly, I'd not heard of this before, though I had read Golding's Lord of the Flies. (Was this experiment the inspiration for his classic book?) Fascinating. Thank you.

  • @timgreen2426
    @timgreen2426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I thought this was gonna be scary or a tragedy

  • @bruceweatherly6559
    @bruceweatherly6559 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would love to see this experiment replicated today with either girls or co-ed and see if they get the same or different results.

    • @BeeFunKnee
      @BeeFunKnee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Each one would want to be queen over all the others, and also feel she's the most popular and prettiest one. Having grown up with two sisters, that's my guess anyways.

    • @BonnieLiz-hy9vs
      @BonnieLiz-hy9vs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was. And televised. Was called Kid Nation; was a reality show on NBC 20 yrs ago or so. Theres a podcast called SplitScreen: KidNation that will really hit home the similarities.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic experiment!

  • @bellagorichar3243
    @bellagorichar3243 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the singing in the back BRUH

  • @tomcooper6108
    @tomcooper6108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been to Robbers Cave many a day.

  • @KejiCooks
    @KejiCooks 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    nice video bro

  • @MarieBurns-xd5xc
    @MarieBurns-xd5xc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much clearer On the experiment now that look at it again.

  • @somerandom3247
    @somerandom3247 6 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    The kids chanting in the background for the first 2 minutes was annoying af.

    • @jillhintsala9376
      @jillhintsala9376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some Random agreed. Would be awesome otherwise

    • @carlprondzinski1719
      @carlprondzinski1719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i only noticed when i read your comment :P

    • @john-yf3bh
      @john-yf3bh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      exactly why would u have that volume higher or equal to your voice

    • @medhagoswami4499
      @medhagoswami4499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@john-yf3bh I kept thinking some other video was playing on another tab

    • @kedrenjackson3876
      @kedrenjackson3876 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YES!!! Thus the reason it is the most replayed part of the video. My brain couldn't process the words over the noise.

  • @BonnieLiz-hy9vs
    @BonnieLiz-hy9vs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And so NBC made this a reality show called Kid Nation in early 2000's. Its both terrifying & mesmerizing.

  • @alexwu358
    @alexwu358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Germans: mein faderland is the greatest, i will bravely confront any enemies who dare to challenge our authorities.
    British: I will sacrifice myself to protect my motherland and serve the Queen.
    Switzerland point of view: 2:36

    • @ocean-tae9392
      @ocean-tae9392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is the best comment on this whole video where are all the likes haha

  • @luxlisbon7979
    @luxlisbon7979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    why are they all just river phoenix in stand by me?

  • @hydrogen1562
    @hydrogen1562 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So freaking interesting

  • @EithanWinters
    @EithanWinters ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF SCHOOL

  • @EYEOverdoit
    @EYEOverdoit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    stage 3 didn't actually eliminate prejudicial behavior, it reduced it.. unfortunately

  • @ogiimo
    @ogiimo ปีที่แล้ว

    i live in wilburton where robbers cave is at, i can almost promise nobody around here has heard of this.

  • @colinmccauley3301
    @colinmccauley3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wasn't this hypothesized in "Lord of the Flies"? which was first copyrighted in 1954? it is man's nature to dominate else why or how could the species have survived?

  • @tns4478
    @tns4478 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my

  • @coreybiggs8626
    @coreybiggs8626 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 2:56 I can smell this picture

  • @seablue2161
    @seablue2161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi josh

  • @puneetachugh1173
    @puneetachugh1173 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the boys were starving for food, i fail to understand if it was just working for something better or a question of survival.

  • @7sakibrg
    @7sakibrg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rlodhi-10

  • @chispychisp1690
    @chispychisp1690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wanna be in one of these experiments ...

  • @rodrigocarneiro6663
    @rodrigocarneiro6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lord of flies in a nutshell

    • @justcody4615
      @justcody4615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did lord of the flies end with them all being friends and learning to work together? I'm not being sarcastic I've never read the book I just know some kid named piggy dies.

  • @stepha9852
    @stepha9852 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi

  • @solo-angel
    @solo-angel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Here's the experiment the universe has for the entire human kind: work together to avoid Climate change catastrophe.

    • @Sawdust5764
      @Sawdust5764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another tax scam doesn't seem like a worthy experiment

    • @oudguitar
      @oudguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And by work together do you mean being skeptical of companies that use old methods of energy production and relying (while ignorant) yourself on those same methods, but being completely blindly faithful in energy corporations who say they are fighting climate change and giving them endless funds paid by increased taxes. Furthermore there's a jingoistic mentality on the neoliberal left in the us, which somehow thinks the US should fix this problem while ignoring China being the main contributor to anthropogenic global climate change. Finally, partisan politics have become exactly the point this video, tribalism where one side sees themselves as good and the other as bad... Since a majority of Hollywood, corporate media, Wall Street, and silicon valley are currently invested in the Democratic party, the people elected for that party same intent on representing the other as deplorable which of course is not the start for a workable cooperative effort, not to mention quite jingoistic considering there are many other countries in the world.

    • @liz_m7248
      @liz_m7248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@oudguitar why even bother mention "left", "china" or "democractic party", when this clearly was a quote on human beings b e f o r e other identities. why not start with yourself before assuming others would be judgy.

  • @WrekuiemForAMeme
    @WrekuiemForAMeme 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That background noise made it impossible to focus at the beginning

  • @skade245
    @skade245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.5 speed :)

  • @TheChannelXY
    @TheChannelXY ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone here from the Entwicklung und Lernen Lecture?

  • @grizzlehouse
    @grizzlehouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's possible the goal of this experiment has been misunderstood. It wasn't a failure in social engineering. Just look around you.

  • @charmingnarcisse
    @charmingnarcisse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not to be rude but kinda, why the hell would you put loud voices in the background

  • @ppmuncher76
    @ppmuncher76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my yt channel is amazing ok

  • @gurselali835
    @gurselali835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    What a load of BS! It has been proven that the test results were rigged to confirm Sharif's theory and that the initial first experiment which is not mentioned here took place the previous year with a different group of boys. It not only disproved Sharifs theory but clearly demonstrated the boys natural inclination towards fairness and cooperation. Angered by the result he went on to construct another experiment a year later where the methods used and the rules applied were clearly designed to achieve the results he needed to support his premise and theory. Like scientists prodding rats in a maze for a desired outcome, rather than just observing the rats for a pure result.Someone needs to make a documentary about this appalling episode in human psychological experimentation.

    • @vibhupande
      @vibhupande 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More of direction (controlled variables) than research (independent variables), but valid in some understandings too. To control persons means to identify patterns that could create shared hostile psychological states. Now we better know what it takes to trigger.
      There is also the factor of homogeneity. Everybody the same sets things up differently. I believe that if the groups had diversity, the research would've turned out different. It still ain't too applicable to real life, however, as even the kids know they will get to go home later.

    • @OfftoShambala
      @OfftoShambala 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for pointing this out, I will look into this. Sounds like what the pharmaceuticals do in regards to the safety and efficacy testing of most of their products, particularly vaccines. Not hard to believe this occurs. This is why independent studies are needed to test for repetitive results.

    • @souldeep91
      @souldeep91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Gursel Ali,
      do you have any link or article or book name for me where the rigging is made public?
      I'm always interested in this kind of reports, because in early psychology the results are oftentimes "too clear" and too good to be true. Also e.g. with the Hawthorne Study in Chicago.

    • @birew3444
      @birew3444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No there hasn't

    • @jsaikris
      @jsaikris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can look at other subsequent articles which tested his theory and it works. There are also meta-analyses with treated controls and large sample sizes! Stop spewing bullshit!

  • @eloisethompson5134
    @eloisethompson5134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shut ip

  • @keziaswan56
    @keziaswan56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    NO OFFENSE BUT CAN THE CHANTING, IN THE BEGINNING, BE TAKEN OFF. IT'S EXTREMELY DISTRACTING. THANK YOU.

  • @michaelarz277
    @michaelarz277 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    unfortunately he also pushed the boys towards this behaviour and only chose the run of the study where his hypthesis got confirmed. that is not up to todays scientific standards