[Hack] Golden Axe (Master System vs Master System) Side by Side Comparison - Dual Longplay
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- About the video: An audiovisual comparison between the Original version and Hack version of Golden Axe for SMS (Sega Master System).
Left Side = Original version
Right Side = Hack version by @xfixium
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- Technical data -
Full Game Name: Golden Axe
Alternative Name: ゴールデンアックス
Developer(s): Sega
Publisher(s): Sega
Release: 1990 (SMS) 2022 (Hack)
Comparative Region: 60 hz
Genre: Beat 'em Up, Hack and Slash
Mode: 1 Player
Dual Longplay by VCDECIDE
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Thank you for making this video. I have watched many videos of yours, I never thought one would be made based on some of my work. I am truly fortunate.
Man, you did magic with your hack! Congratulations!!!
Great job!
Awesome job!
Sensacional, o cara conseguiu fazer um milagre na versão do Master System e a qualidade ficou incrível. Ele deixou bem próximo da versão Mega Drive, imagina se isso tivesse saído na época para o Master System o boom que não ia ser?! Top demais.
Prefiro o original do Master. Justamente por ser diferente... se quiser uma versão "quase igual" ao do mega, então joga a do mega.
@@eduardolopes7740 mas a questão é todo o trabalho que ele desenvolveu. O trabalho gráfico, o trabalho de áudio e todos demais detalhes que ele criou em um hardware limitado como o do Master System, criam um jogo realmente incrível.
Ficou parecendo outro vídeo game! Quase como se a versão original fosse de SG-1000 e a hack sim a de Master System.
Ficou muito bonito esse hack! 👏👏👏
EXCELENTE !!! 👍😀
Mostra todo o potencial, em vários aspectos, do verdadeiro poder do querido Master System !!!
Nice job. The original Master System release was notable for using background tiles to allow for larger characters and to eliminate sprite flicker, at the cost of performance; sprites just wouldn't cut it.
I didn't know that. That explains the choppy animation.
Ótima comparação, podemos ver que o SMS era um verdadeiro monstro 8-bit!
Sobre a hack, tem tanta coisa melhorada que poderia ser chamada de: "Master System Golden Axe Remastered" 👌
Wow. Didnt know colours are so mismatched in the original compared to the arcade, wonder what explanation they d have had :-/ They may had to rush to reach the deadline of the release
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But for Conan that is a different story
I MEAN THE END
The hack is an excellent port. Lot of details, just look at the threes and the magic
When porting is your job versus when porting is your passion...
Excelent video. The original port is pretty good but the hack shows that Sega could have done an even better job. The hack was done with more zeal, with more attention to detail.
This is AMAZING! soooo much better than the original!
The modder should have kept Ax=Battler as a playable character and call it Golden Axe Master Edition.
In the game Golden Axe: Beast Rider, the barbarian introduces himself as "I am Tarik the Ax Battler, Lord of the Frozen North".
Pretty good hack, definitely a graphic upgrade! It would be cool if there was a 2 player hack or at least all the characters in 1 player mode
looks a lot better than the PC=Engine version for sure
Damn, they did some major work on that hack!
Adding the two missing playable characters and FM music would definitively be the next step to take.
Acredito que não seria muito difícil pra eles lançarem uma versão com essa qualidade na época. Parabéns ao autor e ao canal por essa comparação top!
O port original é bom então não acredito que havia dificuldades técnicas para o port original ter a mesma qualidade deste hack. Acho que faltou apenas capricho. Na época deste port, já existia o Mega Drive então, possivelmente, as atenções para o Master estavam reduzidas.
@@engroga tenho essa mesma visão. Com o time principal da Sega cuidando da versão de Mega Drive, o resultado não poderia ser diferente.
@@engroga um mal de muitos jogos cross-gen, Golden Axe pode não ter sido o melhor título para o Master System, mas a série Illusion do Mickey teve jogos muito bons no sistema sendo lançados em conjunto com o Mega Drive, e não perdem nada em qualidade, considerando as limitações de hardware do SMS, claro.
@@andore_btt , a filosofia da Sega era a de que seus consoles fossem um "arcade em casa". Diferentemente da Nintendo, a Sega nasceu como uma empresa de arcades então é compreensível que seus executivos pensassem assim.
A Sega tentou, ao máximo, reproduzir a experiência arcade no Master System. Tentou isso no mais no Master System do que tentou no Mega Drive, se considerarmos o port de Shadow Dancer, pois o port do Master System tenta ser fiel ao arcade mas, o do Mega Drive, foi totalmente desfigurado.
Há controvérsias sobre algumas decisões tomadas pela Sega, ao fazer alguns desses ports, pois alguns games estão acima do limite do hardware do Master.
Fica o dilema: frames grandes, gráficos similares ao arcade mas frame rate e jogabilidade prejudicados OU sprites pequenos, perdendo a semelhança gráfica com o arcade mas frame rate e jogabilidade melhores.
Para vender o game, que é o objetivo principal da empresa, acredito que frames grandes eram uma melhor propaganda. Na década de 80 e 90 não existiam reviews na internet então o jogador só iria perceber a jogabilidade travada depois da compra.
@@engroga concordo com você em alguns pontos, mas discordo que necessariamente a jogabilidade será travada quando o port tentar ser muito fiel ao arcade, mesmo sendo um console de terceira geração, alguns jogos arcades tinham total compatibilidade com o SMS.
Claramente, jogos da placa System-16, que era o hardware no qual o Mega Drive era derivado, não seriam adequados para o SMS em muitos sentidos (principalmente na parte sonora), mas placas como a Sega-System 1 poderiam ter ports muito bons para o console.
Fantasy Zone, The Ninja, Flicky Wonder Boy e Choplifter são bons ports de arcade no Master System, com um frame-rate estável e gráficos coloridos.
Certamente, além dos jogos de arcade, o SMS tinha alguns títulos que exploravam bem sua capacidade com sprites, Kenseiden por exemplo: colocar esse jogo lado a lado com primeiros jogos do PC-Engine e Mega Drive pode deixar a impressão de que é um título de quarta geração. Por isso nunca duvidei que Golden Axe pudesse ter um melhor desempenho no SMS.
Nice. Good job!
Crazy looks cool great job
hack version is amazing🥶
Caramba inacreditável 1000 x melhor que o original.
Quem fez o hack soube aproveitar bem todo o potencial do Master System, diferente da própria empresa que fez o original bem capado e meia-boca
I doubt the final MB size is the same size as the original. If it can fit in the max size official Master System cartridge then I'll be super impressed!
The original cartridge has only 4 megabit (512 kilobyte). It's one of the biggest of the time.
Love a good old 8 bit soundtrack 👌
Except the title screen and the choosing character screen (imo), this hack is outstanding.
Não conhecia esta hack, muito bom
The Hack version made the original look like garbage. The stages were very colorful. The enemy sprites looked detailed. Also the size of the sprites especially the giant enemies and ridable creatures were large in comparison to the player character. The ending images were way better than the goofy digitized look of the original.
The hack looks really laggy and sluggish.
very nice
Excelente. O jogo ganhou outra vida , ficou muito mais bonito .
Caraca! Que belo hack esse?! Muitos Parabéns pra galera fan dos consoles antigos que estao extraindo o melhor dos hardwares! Que venham mais e mais games assim!
I prefer the Master System original version. Precisely because it's different and was made for the 8 bits... if you want a version "almost the same" as the genesis, then play the genesis version.
This hack is amazing!!
A world of difference compared to the original.
Looks more harder too
Man that original MS port now just look like a lazy mess compared to the Hack. Well done, it really looks amazing! 10/10
pow q diferença, versão hack ficou extremamente melhor em todos os sentidos!!!
This is a very nice rom hack given the original game software limitations and hardware limitations of the Sega Master System with some impressive new tiles and a little bit more art which almost looks like the Sega MegaDrive or Genesis version...
Now the original Sega MegaDrive hardware could do a bit closer to the arcade Golden Axe version given that the game was an early game and is still excellent so as a side effect it does not really need a major rom hack unless someone really wanted to attempt it...
What would have been nice is if back then Sega Enterprises LTD in Japan had greenlighted a 16bit MegaDrive version of the Sega Master System Golden Axe Warrior JRPG which is kinda shocking it was never thought of back then but would probably require some major programming to super size the SMS game to the Sega MegaDrive hardware... other than that full super MegaDrive versions of all the Wonder Boy and Monster World SMS games and Alex Kidd games as well as the SMS version of Renegade being powered up by the MegaDrive hardware lol.
golden axe warrior on the ms was slated by cvg if I remember which was unfair, hence no need for an MD version.
Incrível mesmo o que foi feito neste hack. Só prefiro as imagens original do final do jogo. Podiam ter uma versão que jogasse com o bárbara mantendo o final original.
Fazer toda a jornada com Tyris e, no final, mostrar apenas Tarik The Ax Battler?
@@engroga
Não, fazer tudo com o bárbaro. Aí teria que melhorar o sprite dele, já que não é possível escolher o personagem infelizmente.
Hack looks so much better. I've never understood why so many Master System devs used that disgusting blown out cyan and magenta color palette. The hack fixes that and adds a ton of detail. It's nice to see rocks that don't look like cotton candy...too bad it still runs at like 5 frames per second.
Big difference the hack makes👍
Espetáculo!
Looks like a Genesis game, sooo much better is hard to think it's on the same console.
You know the sounds are in the wrong side like many of your videos?
coool!
Impressive, looks like the Genesis version. Sooo much better than the original. Shame to those original developers.
The thing these colour hackers don’t understand is why the backgrounds were in muted colours. It’s so you can see the important things like the main character and enemies clearly.
Like when our hero and his mount nearly vanish into the blue rock face on the first stage?
Yeah, the color choices could be a bit more professional and there's times when there's *too much* detail, but let's not pretend muting the background colors solves every other issue. I've got no problems reading the hack, and it's less of an eyesore.
@Just Stated The Obvious the hack does look better. It just might have been less playable on an old 14” crt.
But a hack is using the original work and then modifying it. How long did they have before players were interested in buying it? How long did it take to make the original from cero and how much did the hack take? It is not always that the system can't do, it is just a matter of time and the money that the developer wants to invest.
Wow hack version looks great
I had not seen this hack yet, but graphically it is impeccable, greatly improving the original version. But the Master System does not have the same features of the Mega Drive, despite being written on the Tec Toy's cartridge box that this ROM is 4 megabits - an erroneous and notoriously misleading information, because it only has half that, which is equivalent to 256K. In addition, it has many problems such as a very slow gameplay and poor fluidity of the characters. However, this hack gives the satisfaction of playing with Tyris, for me the best character of the 3 playable characters, although she is less agile than Gilius in melee. Even so, she is much better in combat than Ax Battler (who in Master's version is called Tarik) and has the best magic.
Yeah. I'd rather play as Tyris Flare anyway. >:3
Excellent graphical redress all around.
Ficou fantástica essa hack,as cores e detalhes deu uma nova vida ao game.
Parece uma versão Nintendinho comparada a versão Master System como o Shinobi do Nintendinho
I see the difference, I guess the hack version is better...
the hacked version has a better frame rate and it looks much more like the arcade version. it's only a 60% complete hack but it will get better
Yikes! Whoever developed the original SEGA Master System version ought to feel embarrassed. Those bg's & the amount of detail in the hack is night & day compared to the otiginal game.
Imagine if the hack had come out back then. It would've been incredible!
Eu penso que a versão original foi melhor que a versão hack somente na fase que inicia no tempo 15:25 .
Fez o caminho inverso ao que fez na versão do Mega.
Essa hack retira algumas coisas na versão do Mega Drive
esperemos que lo termine para poderlo bajar
Esse hack deveria ter sido a versão original da época.
Too bad for the original realeases, almost never exploited the potential of the Master System. Here you can also notice a very bad programming code, and how slow this game is.
the hacked version has better textures,even shadows.
Only complaint is that the hack feels like it's sometimes eating more controller inputs than the original. It's far from unplayable, but I really need to go back and compare the two...
Edit: The original is a lot more responsive...though not good, either. I wonder what's going on?
Yes just by looking at the video the hack looks really laggy and sluggish.
Very perceptive, and true. The game merges tiles in software, which is pretty intensive. If you notice, a lot of the floor tiles are empty in the original. Merging the player and empty tiles is much faster than merging the player to detailed ones. A mistake I learned much later into this hack. The original developers also limited the characters to 7 colors (Again, faster to merge less colors). This was very difficult to work around. My hack overall feels sluggish. A better balance could have been achieved. Still, the original is not very responsive in it's own right.
@@xfixium
It's been an invaluable Rosetta stone. Space Harrier's frequent lack of merger wouldn't make sense without your ambition and your honesty.
Plus, between your hack, the original, and all the wildly different variations of Streets of Rage 1&2 on Sega's 8-bit hardware (I think SoR was still using parts of the GA engine?), it's rare to feel like a system's potential has been so completely mapped out. Especially if it didn't dominate the market.
Usually, we're just left with a big "what if?" afterwards.
Ese hack se ve ya como si fuera de sega Génesis
Eu tinha esse jogo, uma das melhores adaptações para o Master e essa hack ficou fantástica, porém, em algumas fases o chão não teve um efeito legal.
Coragem do pessoal em jogar com essa frame rate de foto com som ..kkkkkk. Essa hack nova ficou muito boa graficamente ..
Complicado... =\
@eduardolopes7740
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Prefiro o original do Master. Justamente por ser diferente... se quiser uma versão "quase igual" ao do mega, então joga a do mega.