Palm oil has the highest yield out of all oil plants. So if we want to meet the same oil demand with another crop we would have to clear a lot more land for this. Not to mention other oils cost more BECAUSE they have lower yields than palm oil. So replacing palm oil will make cooking oil more expensive
Our forests, oceans, water, and climate are strained to the breaking point. Food insecurity and poverty lead to untold suffering. Palm oil already lifted millions of people from Poverty in Malaysia and Indonesia. Palm oil is the most efficient vegetable oil . At the very best practice one single acre of palm oil can produce up to 5.6 ton of vegetable oil , compare to soy just produce about 0,16 ton of vegetable oil. It is a miracle product . And ubiqtuous or versatile
@@danielward7008it is black campaign from the europe and USA. if we want to talk climate justice you have to look at the CO2 percapita and legacyemissions percapita from around the globe The people from developed nations has bigger carbon footprint than those the poor and disadvantaged communities from developing nations such as Indonesia .
@@danielward7008 who is the most responsible for climate change??? The rich, those people from developed nations such as US, UK, China, Japan , UEA, Arab etc. The disadvantaged communities and the small holders farmer from developing country has much lower CO2 emissions per capita than the rich from developed country
In 2021, China, the United States, the EU27, India, Russia and Japan remained the world's largest CO2 emitters. In my own opinion , it is more trustworthy and ethical if the laser focus on those people . Because when we talk about climate change, we also needs to talk about environmental justice and social justice
I dont know firstly where the palm oli is comes from but when i looked the brand of the cooking oil "minyak kita" i know its from indonesia. That is the subsidized brand from the goverment to the people. We use palm oil every day for cooking. Cheers from Indonesia.😊😊😊
@@VijaygKamatyes, mostly when the country doesn't has palm oil tree but the importer. And the importer country pursue the world to do the forestation without looking at the mirror his/her own country is CO2 producer.
It can be at a high level in butter as cows are often feed palm kernel as a cheap by product of the oil extraction process. this can alter the outcome of baking as oil incorporates differently to produce a unexpected outcome to the cook.
If we use corn, olive, soy, peanut, sunflower, or safflower oil, we will need to clear much more ground, ruin more rain forrest and destroy more environment problems. It is better to use palm oil because palm oil has much higher oil yields per acre or per hectare.
People really don't get it. Palm oil is saving these areas. Palm oil is extremely area effective crop, you don't need as much space to make the same amount of money as with almost all other crops, and those have downsides. If palm oil didn't exist, these people would plant cash crops that demand far larger areas. Clearing far larger areas than currently.
The fundamental issue you need to get is farmers in Asia slash and burn new forest areas to cultivate palm. Regular cash crops are grown in available land
If I may paraphrase on old Cree proverb: Only when the last (palm) tree has been cut down, the last river poisoned, and the last fish caught... only then will man realize that he cannot eat money.
@@ecoideazventures6417 No, you have no idea what you are talking about. First off palm is a regular cash crop in asia, not some sort of special one, like people in west seem to think. The other cash stables of rubber/coffee/cocoa. Take huge amount of time to grow before any return, so are categorically different kind of cultivation. So eliminate palm oil, and they change into a slash and burn crop that takes immensely more space for the same cash return.
@@MrJustCallMeJames yea, these western thinkers think they know everything and know the best, less and lesser people outside them are buying their bs anymore these days
@@ecoideazventures6417 These available land you mentioned used to be forest as well, so why dont the western country turned it into forest instead of generating income from the land if they are concerned about the environment. Or maybe profits from their income be shared to these southeast asean community to maintain the forest. Ppl need to eat, so by complaining wont resolve this issue
If you don't consume so much oil, so much soap, so much basic needs, then maybe you wouldn't need the most efficient oil crop in the world. And I think it is unfair to label that Palm Oil Plantation involve burning down forests. In Malaysia, the reason states like Johor is covered 38% by the palm oil plantation would be that these are the legacy of the Rubber Plantations left behind the British. It is not exactly as damaging as we like to think. And perhaps, yeast on the grapes might be better. And well who knows, we might finally not need plantations. But where are you going to get that much waste proteins and sugars?
i went on study trip deep inside jungle of west borneo, there was no jungle, palm trees stretched as far as our drone could see. one of palm plantation we visit was owned and exclusively runs by south korean company, they used aggressive land clearing by burning all of those ancient forest, entire ecosystem vanish just like that. we couldn't even spot a single primate, none. let alone Rhinoceros hornbill that we hope to see outside conservation zones. locals and indigenous are literally in a form of modern slavery to this company, local labour were cheap or else the company hired cheaper one from other parts of the islands... many indigenous lose their way of lives of hunter and gathers because corrupt local officials sold their ancestral lands to this company... their only means to survive for now is just by working for this company where's pension and health benefits are literally non existence...
palm oil, meat, energy, transportation, construction… wouldn’t be such a problem, if people learned to consume as much as they need, instead of more than they can.
It wouldn't be a problem if human population was much smaller. Billions of people means more energy, food, water and other resources are required, which will make climate change worse. Unfortunately, territorial, cultural and racial conflicts have been encouraging population growth race
Interesting. You wanna choose to pay more for RSPO certification products, or pay more for this alternative oil and let the Indonesian & Malaysia farmer lose their incomes.
No one questions the mono-culture groves. In nature, all plants thrive together. Mono-culture doesn't exist. Is a natural palm forest grown anywhere? Why isn't it the rule, or experimented with?
well... if most of tropical rain forests are turned into palm oil plantation I think we all gonna face a serious issue. sooner or later palm oil will turn the land into desert. Maybe CCP knew this already and therefore they are turning their desert into jungle I think in the future clean water will be very expensive
Palm oil is not only bad for the planet, but also not so kind to your health. Novel food is the way to go....only if we could let people learn more about all these alternatives and embrace them as replacement.
@@barracudastocks But if you look at yields of palm oil compared to other type of edible oil grown in this world, palm oil yields are much higher. Hence it would be better for soy bean oil, grape seed oil, canola oil, sunflower oil and olive oil farm to be replanted into a forest to reduce global warming.
@@spacetoast7783 The slander stems from a smear campaign in 1980s by an American soybean company and eventually the corn oil industry. Palm oil is just too competitive in terms of prices so the campaign was used to maintain the use of domestically produced vegetable oils. If you are from the US or western Europe you will hear about the countless article and reports on the so called health effects of palm oil, whereas if you are on anywhere else of the Earth, you won't hear about them. The common anecdote is that when fast food companies used palm oil in their menu, it is then associated with heart diseases and obesity. But if you use your brain for a moment there, you will realise that it doesn't matter what kind of oil they are using, they are just simply using too much of it. And that is exactly what happened from 1990 to 2010, where the embargo on palm oil didn't really affected the obesity rate in America, as a matter of fact the rate climbed during the time, due to economy boom leading to increased income of average American household.
I am 50 years old, I grow up and use it in a daily basis. I am healthy and still can run 5 to 7 km daily. That's to show you a true facts, not from 3rd parties opinions.
No they aren't evil per se. Its just the consequenses of Globalization. It may seem the developing countries doing all the 'bad work' but without them, europe will crumble and america will fall. Every country relies to each other, so this problem is actually evryone's proble.
What do you expect them to do? Depend on rich country for basic things like food? Rich countries with their monopoly and sanctions are evil. Not to mention snatching the best talent from developing countries because they are too selfish with comfy life to have children.
Palm oil has the highest yield out of all oil plants. So if we want to meet the same oil demand with another crop we would have to clear a lot more land for this. Not to mention other oils cost more BECAUSE they have lower yields than palm oil. So replacing palm oil will make cooking oil more expensive
So learn how to cook without it
@@danielcaceres9971 how????
can you tell me that???
@vyhozshu it can't
if it's that easy, europe would done it long time ago
@@AdinnaKhairilIkhwani-xl9rybaking. Like air fryers and oven
@@AdinnaKhairilIkhwani-xl9ryThe same way we managed for thousands of years before palm oil became ubiquitous.
I use plam oil on a daily basis. It's a great substitute to sunflower oil. It's much cheaper and with great healthy benefits
What ? What ! What #
What have you been smoking?
Fyi, the Minyakita brand shown in this video is subsidized product only targeted for poor people
Well you don't think that Bloomberg would target a product that rich people, use do you?
Our forests, oceans, water, and climate are strained to the breaking point. Food insecurity and poverty lead to untold suffering. Palm oil already lifted millions of people from Poverty in Malaysia and Indonesia.
Palm oil is the most efficient vegetable oil . At the very best practice one single acre of palm oil can produce up to 5.6 ton of vegetable oil , compare to soy just produce about 0,16 ton of vegetable oil. It is a miracle product . And ubiqtuous or versatile
If it's such a miracle product why is it responsible for the destruction of millions of hectares of rainforest?
@@danielward7008it is black campaign from the europe and USA. if we want to talk climate justice you have to look at the CO2 percapita and legacyemissions percapita from around the globe The people from developed nations has bigger carbon footprint than those the poor and disadvantaged communities from developing nations such as Indonesia .
@@danielward7008 who is the most responsible for climate change??? The rich, those people from developed nations such as US, UK, China, Japan , UEA, Arab etc. The disadvantaged communities and the small holders farmer from developing country has much lower CO2 emissions per capita than the rich from developed country
@@danielward7008 the elephant in the rooms are energy, manufacturing and food loss and food wasted, beef and animal farming from developed country
@@charlessimbolon7333 I didn't mention climate change. I asked you a question about palm oil and deforestation which you haven't attempted to answer.
In 2021, China, the United States, the EU27, India, Russia and Japan remained the world's largest CO2 emitters. In my own opinion , it is more trustworthy and ethical if the laser focus on those people . Because when we talk about climate change, we also needs to talk about environmental justice and social justice
Growing palms is now a climate destruction.
I dont know firstly where the palm oli is comes from but when i looked the brand of the cooking oil "minyak kita" i know its from indonesia. That is the subsidized brand from the goverment to the people. We use palm oil every day for cooking.
Cheers from Indonesia.😊😊😊
Anyways Palm Oil can be used as Environment Destroyer and Population Reducer.
@@VijaygKamatyes, mostly when the country doesn't has palm oil tree but the importer. And the importer country pursue the world to do the forestation without looking at the mirror his/her own country is CO2 producer.
@@myname-jj9oi In 2021, China, the United States, the EU27, India, Russia and Japan remained the world's largest CO2 emitters.
Seems pretty sustainable to me.
Yeah. Growing palms is now a climate destruction.
It can be at a high level in butter as cows are often feed palm kernel as a cheap by product of the oil extraction process. this can alter the outcome of baking as oil incorporates differently to produce a unexpected outcome to the cook.
If we use corn, olive, soy, peanut, sunflower, or safflower oil, we will need to clear much more ground, ruin more rain forrest and destroy more environment problems. It is better to use palm oil because palm oil has much higher oil yields per acre or per hectare.
People really don't get it. Palm oil is saving these areas. Palm oil is extremely area effective crop, you don't need as much space to make the same amount of money as with almost all other crops, and those have downsides. If palm oil didn't exist, these people would plant cash crops that demand far larger areas. Clearing far larger areas than currently.
The fundamental issue you need to get is farmers in Asia slash and burn new forest areas to cultivate palm. Regular cash crops are grown in available land
If I may paraphrase on old Cree proverb:
Only when the last (palm) tree has been cut down, the last river poisoned, and the last fish caught... only then will man realize that he cannot eat money.
@@ecoideazventures6417 No, you have no idea what you are talking about.
First off palm is a regular cash crop in asia, not some sort of special one, like people in west seem to think. The other cash stables of rubber/coffee/cocoa. Take huge amount of time to grow before any return, so are categorically different kind of cultivation.
So eliminate palm oil, and they change into a slash and burn crop that takes immensely more space for the same cash return.
@@MrJustCallMeJames yea, these western thinkers think they know everything and know the best, less and lesser people outside them are buying their bs anymore these days
@@ecoideazventures6417 These available land you mentioned used to be forest as well, so why dont the western country turned it into forest instead of generating income from the land if they are concerned about the environment. Or maybe profits from their income be shared to these southeast asean community to maintain the forest. Ppl need to eat, so by complaining wont resolve this issue
Also what happens to trade with Indonesia if it becomes the Iran of South East Asia?
Use lard for cooking. It’s healthier too.
Is palm oil superior given clever scientists spend nearly a decade trying to mimic a lab produced palm oil rather than olive, soya or fish oils
If you don't consume so much oil, so much soap, so much basic needs, then maybe you wouldn't need the most efficient oil crop in the world. And I think it is unfair to label that Palm Oil Plantation involve burning down forests. In Malaysia, the reason states like Johor is covered 38% by the palm oil plantation would be that these are the legacy of the Rubber Plantations left behind the British. It is not exactly as damaging as we like to think.
And perhaps, yeast on the grapes might be better. And well who knows, we might finally not need plantations. But where are you going to get that much waste proteins and sugars?
All we ask for is reasonable standards and regulations for businesses and their owners
When a person / business is there to make money, there is no REASONING.
i went on study trip deep inside jungle of west borneo, there was no jungle, palm trees stretched as far as our drone could see.
one of palm plantation we visit was owned and exclusively runs by south korean company,
they used aggressive land clearing by burning all of those ancient forest, entire ecosystem vanish just like that. we couldn't even spot a single primate, none. let alone Rhinoceros hornbill that we hope to see outside conservation zones.
locals and indigenous are literally in a form of modern slavery to this company, local labour were cheap or else the company hired cheaper one from other parts of the islands... many indigenous lose their way of lives of hunter and gathers because corrupt local officials sold their ancestral lands to this company... their only means to survive for now is just by working for this company where's pension and health benefits are literally non existence...
Nope.. there are many forest in borneo. You only need google maps satellite view for search many forest in borneo.
Dengan memblokir produk sawit apakah seketika lahan2 itu akan berubah menjadi hutan lagi,eropa sungguh naif😊
I always go for
coconut oil and olive oil
Thanks for covering this @Bloomberg. It's almost as if society forgot a while ago about how bad palm oil mass-farming is in its current form
palm oil, meat, energy, transportation, construction… wouldn’t be such a problem, if people learned to consume as much as they need, instead of more than they can.
It wouldn't be a problem if human population was much smaller. Billions of people means more energy, food, water and other resources are required, which will make climate change worse. Unfortunately, territorial, cultural and racial conflicts have been encouraging population growth race
Interesting. You wanna choose to pay more for RSPO certification products, or pay more for this alternative oil and let the Indonesian & Malaysia farmer lose their incomes.
well said.
new logo really sucks, this is coming from the guy who always liked new company logos. this is the first one i geniunly dislike.
No one questions the mono-culture groves. In nature, all plants thrive together. Mono-culture doesn't exist. Is a natural palm forest grown anywhere? Why isn't it the rule, or experimented with?
Since when planting stuff for our consumption is a bad thing.
When it destroys natural habitats and releases tons of emissions it's a bad thing.
Growing palms is now a climate destruction.
I am surprised they did NOT show orangutans.
How come? It's also produce oxygen for earth
Stop palm plantation
Don’t accuse without the fact and evidence.. land for planting palm oil is far more save than crop and others commodity
yeah, if you compare to corn or canola (oil). but for tropical rain forest, still worst
well... if most of tropical rain forests are turned into palm oil plantation I think we all gonna face a serious issue.
sooner or later palm oil will turn the land into desert. Maybe CCP knew this already and therefore they are turning their desert into jungle
I think in the future clean water will be very expensive
Are you sure? what about soybean, rapeseed, olive, sunflower? Come on, be fair for your campaign.
Palm oil is not only bad for the planet, but also not so kind to your health. Novel food is the way to go....only if we could let people learn more about all these alternatives and embrace them as replacement.
Unfortunately, people love fried food
Same goes to avacado, why no one is protesting how bad it is for the planet?
@@containedhurricane true that..choose baked over fried whenever I could in the meantime.
@@timjones1184 Palm oil's carbon footprint is 50 times that of avocado. Avocado is bad but is quite niche in comparison.
@@barracudastocks But if you look at yields of palm oil compared to other type of edible oil grown in this world, palm oil yields are much higher. Hence it would be better for soy bean oil, grape seed oil, canola oil, sunflower oil and olive oil farm to be replanted into a forest to reduce global warming.
Yeah well it destroys your body too....
isn't palm oil very unhealthy anyways. modern food is so bad
Is it really any worse than peanut oil or canola oil? This is the first I've heard of it.
@@spacetoast7783 The slander stems from a smear campaign in 1980s by an American soybean company and eventually the corn oil industry. Palm oil is just too competitive in terms of prices so the campaign was used to maintain the use of domestically produced vegetable oils. If you are from the US or western Europe you will hear about the countless article and reports on the so called health effects of palm oil, whereas if you are on anywhere else of the Earth, you won't hear about them.
The common anecdote is that when fast food companies used palm oil in their menu, it is then associated with heart diseases and obesity. But if you use your brain for a moment there, you will realise that it doesn't matter what kind of oil they are using, they are just simply using too much of it. And that is exactly what happened from 1990 to 2010, where the embargo on palm oil didn't really affected the obesity rate in America, as a matter of fact the rate climbed during the time, due to economy boom leading to increased income of average American household.
Nobody should use palm oil, very unhealthy.
I am 50 years old, I grow up and use it in a daily basis. I am healthy and still can run 5 to 7 km daily. That's to show you a true facts, not from 3rd parties opinions.
Developing Countries are evil for this industries
No they aren't evil per se. Its just the consequenses of Globalization. It may seem the developing countries doing all the 'bad work' but without them, europe will crumble and america will fall. Every country relies to each other, so this problem is actually evryone's proble.
What do you expect them to do? Depend on rich country for basic things like food? Rich countries with their monopoly and sanctions are evil. Not to mention snatching the best talent from developing countries because they are too selfish with comfy life to have children.
Did you switch to clickbaiting? You had great videos before...
Palm oil in soap gives me a rash, didn't bother me as much as a kid but now it does.
So I try to avoid bar soap with palm oil.
How about forest in Europe? 😂
Yes. My thought exactly. Growing palms is now a climate destruction.