Super agreed, it seems a lot of his frustrations are due to mechanics not being communicated clearly, which I blame on the terrible tutorial and unclear UI.
@@Eyclonus well plus it takes a while to understand the implications of actions in games like these... Like how many games played of Civ does it take to get really good at it and understand all the mechanics etc.
I would love to see a Human First run. I’m at a point in my run where I took over the US, Russia, and China and I nuked/invaded the Alien Administration and took their last enclave on Earth. After doing so, I’ve played for a few more years and they haven’t taken any more land on Earth even with the Servants being everywhere. I think this is because all of the Alien Admin claims got destroyed after taking out their last bit of territory.
As other commenters have said if someone is fired right after being turned it normally means one of your own councilors has been turned. Also the fact that you have complained about your rolls several times can be an indication of someone having been turned (could also just be bad luck too ofc).
Good job on taking out some more enemy councillors. I think you'll start to notice that it'll be a bit easier to hold onto your regions as they no longer have the high skill levels to crackdown and purge in a single turn as consistently as before, the fact that the Alien councillor himself had to come and help is a good sign that the Servants are damaged by your earlier actions Now if you could somehow invest more into China and somehow bait them into absorbing the USA nukes you might be able to salvage the situation on Earth
yee, good luck on that strategy, the servants literally get maxed out alien-councilors if you get too strong. And these aliens? Never killed a single councilor
@@conradryder2286 There are maxed out Alien councillors on the map regardless of what you do, the difference is that when you do nothing, there will be maxed out servant councillors on top of that
@@undefined6341 were never able to do anything against councilors, because if i do ANYTHING else what is not fighting over control points or defending them, the other factions rush in, steal my points faster than i can reconquer them and i effectivly loose the game. if you tell me a way how i can stop the other factions from stealing my !!defended!! control points or how i can steal control points that are defended i may give the game another chance but it is just too frustrating that appearently every faction is able to steal my defended control points while for me the best chance of stealing a defended control point with a maxed out agent is lik 2% -.-
@@conradryder2286 The Alien councillors have a higher base chance (because its a different mission), plus they get extra bonus on top if you have alien xenoforming stuff hanging out in your country. So basically the Alien councillors are kind of not possible to stop via the usual defend interests, but cleaning out the xeno stuff with the Assault Alien Assets mission helps. The non-Alien councillors are just going to be tough because the AI optimizes councillors to reach max stat as soon as possible on its chosen specialization, but assassinating them will "reset" that because they have to hire a new councillor that has no experience. Also, make sure that you keep popular support high, and unrest low because both of those stats matter when trying to break into a country. If you have a councillor that's 25 and you do a full send on resources then you can basically have a good roll on whatever you want to do.
@@conradryder2286 Also forgot to mention, but democracies (e.g if your country is like a 8.9) are inherently weaker to hostile actions, so if you're targeted a lot, moving your country towards a more authorarian government helps as well
This series really shows what made me fall in love with this game: the drama. The game can be brutally punishing for mistakes, giving you the feeling of the utter hopelessness of fighting a technologically superior foe. And yet space is big and stuff takes time, so slowly you can crawl your way back. It doesn’t matter how many stations fall, how many nations join the aliens, all that matters is you keep pushing back, exploiting every crack in the enemy defenses. And you slowly turn a hopeless battle into a victory.
Yep. That's why turning another faction's agent works as a sort of loyalty test for your own agents. If your new friend gets fired, time to go mole-hunting among your old friends.
He probably had a traitor in his ranks for a while now, maybe even multiple. He is in the lead among human factions, and he has been hit almost constantly by hostile agent actions. Just started video so I don't know if he figures it out.
Their immediate behavior is quite similar, but their end goal is different. Resistance will fight the aliens until they leave forever, while Academy will fight the aliens until they agree to an equal peace.
Beginning of the run : Academy : "Let's engage in Jolly Cooperation!" Humanity First : "Kill all Xenos." Now: Humanity First : "RIP AND TEAR" Academy : "RIP AND TEAR"
As it should be. As the side that wants to be equals the academy should slide into the resistance and humanity first if aliens become aggressive until the aliens are in check. If the aliens are in check I think getting the initiative and protectorate on the favorable terms page might be the end of the slider.
One of the big reasons to make colonies in the outer system is the same reason it is so hard to get there. Travel time. If you can get a colony on Europa, you just need to build a specific structure to "reload" and refuel the colony ship and have it make more bases around Saturn at no boost cost. This means any attempt by the Hydra to attack would take months and months to reach you, time to build defenses. Defenses which are now proving to be able to drive away even dreadnoughts. Also, I am loving the edge of the cliff, clawing back from the brink gameplay. Looking forward to more!
Thats actually a good summary of the alien's starting position, they spend a fair bit of the early game establishing an industrial base and the stations to enable easy transit to the inner planets. Thats part of the reason why the aliens don't just dominate you off the bat, they are advanced but they don't get free supply lines and magical logistics like they would in other strategy games.
i dont understand why you say building a base on europa is good? didnt the story tell that the wormhole is close to neptune? closer to saturn as compared to mercury?
Actually if you want easy transport to the outer planets and beyond, it makes sense to be launching most of your missions from Mercury. Reason being, Mercury is on average the closest to everything else in the solar system (aside from the sun itself). If you're taking off from Earth, you're going to be on the other side of the sun half of the time, and so your travel time will be awful. See this guide: th-cam.com/video/SumDHcnCRuU/w-d-xo.html (the rare CGP Grey/Potato crossover event)
Yeah! No surrender, show them xenos what equal means. I also enjoy how different the two play thrus i'm watching are. Potatomcwhiskey playing as the idealistic academy, but are building fleets and have gotten into a shooting war. The other is Perun playing as the “suffer not the xeno to live” Humanity first, but are playing a subtle game of not provoking them too much.
yes perun seems much more familiar with the game, and seems to be going the way of strike once strike hard. here potato doesnt know the nuances, so hes literally discovering the breaking points of every part of the game. perun is going the beeline covert strike route, potato is going first principles. super fun
This series is inspirational for every 4x game campaign I've ever played where I got super frustrated and felt like giving up on the whole game. Also as much as I love the Civ content and find it super helpful for improving my game, it's really engrossing watching you actually struggle through something compared to crushing most Civ campaigns.
8:50 They immediately fired him b/c they must have turned one of your guys (your ppl have low loyalty, you should get an agent with inspire to boost that), so they knew that you turned their guy. The AI is really bad at hiding the fact that they turned one of your operatives as they will do actions like this that blatantly show you that they have eyes on the inside.
its probably intentional game design; by this point most people would have concluded that their councilors were corrupted from the game giving nondirect feedback like failing easy missions and such
I love that Potato has just done a complete 180 on staying neutral with the other factions, since they're all at war with him anyway. It's like, "well, if you want a war, you're gonna get a bloody war!"
Inspire your councilors. I think you have turned agents (hence all the mad fails too maybe), the Protectorate guy getting dumped the moment you turned him is a 100% indicator they have one one of yours.
Jailing other Councillor is a great way to slow them down, as it makes them unable to act for 3-4 turns, costing you 1. With an infiltrated guy, you could theoretically permanently jail all their Councillor until they fire them, instead of killing them, using only one of your councilor. (jail 4 in sequence, keep the turned guy free, and make his fail high once you have all 4 jailed, meaning you keep sight of them all anyway :D) I haven't tried that, but it sounds like a decent tactic vs servants. If they can't aact, they can't give nations to aliens. Also, it's a special mission to give nation to aliens, if you can find that agent, trap him asap.
You want to keep failure chance of turned councilors low. The AI figures out really quickly it's agent is a Spy if it's failure is high. Also figures it out if it's the only 1 not being detained
a bit of a problem with this is that detaining an enemy councilor actually only detains them for a single turn. You need to constantly detain them to keep them under lock permanently and after being detained for about 3 turns or so the ai will just fire the councilor and hire a new one.
Causing unrest in the alien nation is really the best defence against it. If the alien nation gets too powerful, the 7.4 miltech spider mechs will be deployed and absolutely obliterate you. Those spider mechs can tank 2-3 direct nuke hits without being destroyed.
So, I had a thought today at work. Imagine if the Aliens are already subverting us IRL and they've taken over the developers of Terra Invictor, in order to have humans run multiple simulations of how they would defend from a supposed Alien invasion, to further their own cause. Literally spent 4 hours of my shift today pondering the consequences lol.
Poor potato still hadn't learned that he should not be using electric engines on his combat ships. Your smaller combat ships should have>2g acceleration (gees...not milli gees!). Maybe try old fassioned liquid engines?) and you only need the bare minimum fuel tanks - just enough to traverse the gravity well that it's defending. Ion/electric drives should only be used for long range, non-combat ships (colony/exploratory). Hope that helps
I like to think this is one of the many alternate universes and that despite the almost certain pain humanity has caused the aliens, they would end up being respected My guess is even compared to the other ones humanity for their tech level appears to be putting up a giant fight.
This game is insanely well done. After we get a handle on the depth of the mechanics I hope it doesn’t become as trivial as some other strategy games. And by god we need factional diplomacy.
This is quite the impressive run... its honestly fun to watch you run through this game and how you struggle. I do agree with some of your statements from... I think the last video that the game is just kind of overwhelming in how it has so much stuff that you don't know what it will do until you are already much later into it. Where you can end up with a 50 hour campaign turning into a slog and not even know it until you are 2/3rds through because the game tells you so little of what does what if you don't go check stuff online. The early ship technology for example almost seems like more of a trap for new players than anything else, with how they are too weak to do anything but cost resources anyway. Personally though, while I do enjoy the idea of the game its far too time consuming to get anywhere for me to play... like it takes hours just to get even a minor space-station online. Never mind for anything beyond that... I basically sent a refund request today (Though the playtime is already over 2 hours so may not get a refund at all.) just because I was pretty sure I would never get even a third through a game without going "WTF was I doing again in this game?" because I forgot about the game for a few weeks and then reloaded a file.... So unless they add in some speed-up options and make things less opaque the game isn't for me. Just don't have the time, energy and motivation for this kind of playstile... I will just enjoy others playing I guess.
While watching i notice you seem to lack Science Attribute, it also didn´t help that you focused so much on Endgoal Tech instead of Tech that improves your Investments/Cp Limit. Combined with the high Xenofauna it really makes the Alien Agents more Powerful. And Check more often if you can improve the Stats of your Agents 20 Xp is enough to Lvl up there is no point to just Collect the Xp. Also Skills like Quick Learner are the most OP Skills because you save so much XP and have more Stats overall which makes everything easier.
Find another faction u can be friends with. Long term... until the end when u force the aliens to peace talks. On another note... unless the game also has random different aliens with different tech and agenda, the game will get old unlike Civ6. Still like the game
The aliens have different internal factions that will cause the aliens as a whole to do different things depending on which alien factions are the more powerful. Probably still not as diverse as Civ 6, but between that and the human factions there should be a decent amount of replayability.
I'm just flaberghasted how Potato has an easy time making 1k fleets by mid 2030s while I'm still in the 200s range of fleet power lol Edit: He has 2k science a day now 😭
Hydra 16, that alien must have been on earth for years gaining levels. If you can avoid going to TWICE the MC level that triggers aggression you probably can afford assassinating more hydras XD
This game is bullshit 😭 I played another on cinematic, year two servants somehow capped USA, and they immediately destroyed all of my countries and spawned in 3 councilors with 17+ security to suppress unrest in America after I killed the tree there previously. Made it so it was literally impossible for me to do anything at all. They rival and destroy any point I tag.
More a matter of action economy. Councillor actions are really the most precious resource you have, and one of the major balancing factors of the game that prevents uncontrollable snowballs is that factions can't scale their councillor numbers past a certain point.
I haven't watched the two episodes from today yet, but I think that pheromones' resistance or what ever it is seems to be incredibly important, the fact they can just flip a country you've invested into with no trouble is insane! and the fact it happened in pretty much a decade with no warning or pop up a year or two earlier saying something like: " we've detected massive gravity anomaly, something big is gonna happen". i think the game needs to make an effort at communicating the state of solar system every once in awhile.
One strategy I started doing when stations got really cheap to make was to focus on a type of research and spam a bunch of research bonus, then switch over to a different bonus when needed
potato, you have effectively cut most of the other factions off at the knees so they arent very good youve blasted ahead... so the aliens are only seeing you as a threat because you are the only threat, now youve slowed down alittel the others have caught up but have also ben trampled by the alians
Loving the series and game, Potato. Great long-view spotlight on this. I wouldn't have otherwise ever known about this game. I'm intrigued to see more!
Intresting how the pae of the game works different. I am at 2036 and on my current Soviet Union opressive Humanity Firt playthough .. no aliens are on ground.. only 2 megafauna hatched in the world. No alien ships attack my bases. BUT. There has been a constant wold war that is draining humanity resources like HELL. For example in your game US army is 4.2 level. In my game it is 6.0! Fighting US troops is insanity and I need to Obliterate them from orbit with a fleet whole built for that purpose ( several ships that can barely move but have huge ass advanced railguns)
I started with the EU and managed to take the US from the Servants, something that probably saved the day given that they had 9 armies and a high tech level there. But now the aliens started to attack my outposts and I did encounter a mothership and several frigates taking out my main base. Can you give me an idea of how the whole base defense works? Because I had 3 level 2 defense modules and didn´t even damage a frigate. I have no control over the whole base it seems and it just fired on incomin missiles till the end.
I wonder how close the Servants are to completing their goals? What percentage of the Earth's population do they control now? Can't remember what else they need to win.
Aliens captured half of the world in my game, eventually they will revolt and flip back to humanity but the ai needs to target the aliens instead of you.
Does this game crash much for you? I realise its early access. Just wondering if its my computer or if its a game that is still a work in progress. Im playing late game stellaris without issues.
When you hit the MC cap, what you need to do is use your annual direct investment in mission control in one ( or more ) of you spacefaring nations. Cheers.
I just want the interstellar song to play when he does something huge because it would fit so well 😂 would be funny and an interesting twist from most of his videos
Yeah i think your critical mistake on this run was to upset the aliens too early, not only does hostile actions against the aliens increase their response, but your amount of used Mission Control will also have an impact, without the right techs you need to be careful with that.
Any chance you could add episode numbers to your thumbnails? I've resorted to using a screenshot of your recent uploads to figure out the order in which to watch these. That said, I love your work. Keep it up!
Potato two episodes ago : "This game is not fun anymore, I will abandon..." Potato now after he found his particles of manliness back : "Purge the Xenos!!!!"
Firstly, thank you yet again for all your uploads - Every time I watch one I learn something new, be it Civ6 or this (and like you, now addicted - indeed, I bought it right after the first episode of this series) and you were certainly not joking about the sheer, mind buggering complexity on offer here coupled with really not knowing what the right options are & I have had some thoughts on this I would like to throw out First up, it seems to me that the AI is at long last one that can take actions right back at you & it even appears to know how to do war both covertly and overtly from what I have seen, and players who are used to the weak-ass AI in Civ6 are in for a rude awakening. Yes, the Aliens seem OP - but if I have correctly divined one of the intents of the developers (judging totally from their forums) this is realistic - and it seems to be one of the main goals to be as realistic as possible within the confines of still being a game, and therefore fun. But it definitely seems that there will be no easy victories (at least, to begin with) until we all learn what is important for each faction, how to not only manipulate in our favour but also against the AI. But there's the rub right there - how do we know what the correct course of action ought to be when dealing with what is - in every sense of the word - an Alien situation. They must be OP, or there is no game at all - let's face it, any creatures that can get here can take over any time they want militarily if that is the way they want to do it as they must needs be way, WAY ahead of us technically and (this is important too) with alien motivation. Trial & Error is the only way here, frustrating at times as this is (I have restarted a few times now, and each start is getting better as I learn more. This brings me to my second realization - it's okay to abandon a play through if you realise something seriously important that you did not do before - why fight through if you know you are losing purely because you don'y yet understand the mechanics & their various interactions as well as where you should be prioritizing your research efforts as by stubbornly fighting through I believe (although of course I may well be wrong) there will be negative consequences along the lines of brain overload caused by too much information too quickly, which unless you have a memory like a Supercomputer will be overwhelming. Another area which I know full well I fell right into at first was getting greedy, thinking I could merge into Mega-Nations but without first fully understanding the absolute necessity of needing the potential to exist in the first place - You cannot take over Mexico as the USA peacefully until you get the right tech, and it comes too late really. Invasion would be the sole option and that is risky - I think, but don't really know as I have not as yet tried this. Please though, keep up the playthroughs. They really are awesome & entertaining at the same time - it also makes a change to see you not just deciding at the start what your win condition will be as in Civ6, and for me this difference is huge as it's simply not possible in this game to say 'This is how I will win today'.
I'm enjoying this game, and it did give me some hope to see that you were also getting your butt kicked in your first playthrough. In my second playthrough, I figured I'd try to play nice with the other factions so we could take on the aliens together, but I quickly found out that's not really a thing yet. Early access, sigh. Still, this game could be one of the greats once it's finished.
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Regardless of what happens to this run, I would still enjoy you playing a new game in Terra Invicta with everything you learned from this run.
Super agreed, it seems a lot of his frustrations are due to mechanics not being communicated clearly, which I blame on the terrible tutorial and unclear UI.
@@Eyclonus well plus it takes a while to understand the implications of actions in games like these... Like how many games played of Civ does it take to get really good at it and understand all the mechanics etc.
@@justjoe9070 Yeah and Civ is basically a child's game compared to this one
I would love to see a Human First run. I’m at a point in my run where I took over the US, Russia, and China and I nuked/invaded the Alien Administration and took their last enclave on Earth. After doing so, I’ve played for a few more years and they haven’t taken any more land on Earth even with the Servants being everywhere. I think this is because all of the Alien Admin claims got destroyed after taking out their last bit of territory.
@@dgruner13 I think more of the same or switch the the fleeing cowards, the tech based factions in any event.
As other commenters have said if someone is fired right after being turned it normally means one of your own councilors has been turned. Also the fact that you have complained about your rolls several times can be an indication of someone having been turned (could also just be bad luck too ofc).
This.
Good job on taking out some more enemy councillors. I think you'll start to notice that it'll be a bit easier to hold onto your regions as they no longer have the high skill levels to crackdown and purge in a single turn as consistently as before, the fact that the Alien councillor himself had to come and help is a good sign that the Servants are damaged by your earlier actions
Now if you could somehow invest more into China and somehow bait them into absorbing the USA nukes you might be able to salvage the situation on Earth
yee, good luck on that strategy, the servants literally get maxed out alien-councilors if you get too strong.
And these aliens?
Never killed a single councilor
@@conradryder2286 There are maxed out Alien councillors on the map regardless of what you do, the difference is that when you do nothing, there will be maxed out servant councillors on top of that
@@undefined6341 were never able to do anything against councilors, because if i do ANYTHING else what is not fighting over control points or defending them, the other factions rush in, steal my points faster than i can reconquer them and i effectivly loose the game.
if you tell me a way how i can stop the other factions from stealing my !!defended!! control points or how i can steal control points that are defended i may give the game another chance but it is just too frustrating that appearently every faction is able to steal my defended control points while for me the best chance of stealing a defended control point with a maxed out agent is lik 2% -.-
@@conradryder2286 The Alien councillors have a higher base chance (because its a different mission), plus they get extra bonus on top if you have alien xenoforming stuff hanging out in your country. So basically the Alien councillors are kind of not possible to stop via the usual defend interests, but cleaning out the xeno stuff with the Assault Alien Assets mission helps.
The non-Alien councillors are just going to be tough because the AI optimizes councillors to reach max stat as soon as possible on its chosen specialization, but assassinating them will "reset" that because they have to hire a new councillor that has no experience. Also, make sure that you keep popular support high, and unrest low because both of those stats matter when trying to break into a country.
If you have a councillor that's 25 and you do a full send on resources then you can basically have a good roll on whatever you want to do.
@@conradryder2286 Also forgot to mention, but democracies (e.g if your country is like a 8.9) are inherently weaker to hostile actions, so if you're targeted a lot, moving your country towards a more authorarian government helps as well
USA in movies: always takes the lead in fighting off alien invasions
USA in this game: one of the first to capitulate -__-
This series really shows what made me fall in love with this game: the drama. The game can be brutally punishing for mistakes, giving you the feeling of the utter hopelessness of fighting a technologically superior foe. And yet space is big and stuff takes time, so slowly you can crawl your way back. It doesn’t matter how many stations fall, how many nations join the aliens, all that matters is you keep pushing back, exploiting every crack in the enemy defenses. And you slowly turn a hopeless battle into a victory.
If they immediately fired him, doesn't that mean one of your councilors has been turned?
Yep. That's why turning another faction's agent works as a sort of loyalty test for your own agents. If your new friend gets fired, time to go mole-hunting among your old friends.
He probably had a traitor in his ranks for a while now, maybe even multiple. He is in the lead among human factions, and he has been hit almost constantly by hostile agent actions. Just started video so I don't know if he figures it out.
I put that advice on his previous videos already. I don't know if he read it though.
That's exactly what it means
I love how the academy has been radicalised by the conflict to the point where they are basically the Resistance/HF 2.0 scientist boogaloo
Not that much. But they are NOT afraid to crack some skulls for that treaty, that's for sure. Even as nuclear war ravages the planet, they hold on.
Their immediate behavior is quite similar, but their end goal is different. Resistance will fight the aliens until they leave forever, while Academy will fight the aliens until they agree to an equal peace.
@@YourLocalMairaaboo they have been killing enemy* councilors, aliens and taking out their fleets and causing guerrilla wars, pretty radicalized yes.
Beginning of the run :
Academy : "Let's engage in Jolly Cooperation!"
Humanity First : "Kill all Xenos."
Now:
Humanity First : "RIP AND TEAR"
Academy : "RIP AND TEAR"
As it should be. As the side that wants to be equals the academy should slide into the resistance and humanity first if aliens become aggressive until the aliens are in check. If the aliens are in check I think getting the initiative and protectorate on the favorable terms page might be the end of the slider.
If they aren't signing, then we are firing. It's that simple.
*Reloads shotgun with malicious intensions*
Too bad, they are also killing each other as well
RIP AND TEARS
One of the big reasons to make colonies in the outer system is the same reason it is so hard to get there. Travel time. If you can get a colony on Europa, you just need to build a specific structure to "reload" and refuel the colony ship and have it make more bases around Saturn at no boost cost. This means any attempt by the Hydra to attack would take months and months to reach you, time to build defenses. Defenses which are now proving to be able to drive away even dreadnoughts.
Also, I am loving the edge of the cliff, clawing back from the brink gameplay. Looking forward to more!
Thats actually a good summary of the alien's starting position, they spend a fair bit of the early game establishing an industrial base and the stations to enable easy transit to the inner planets. Thats part of the reason why the aliens don't just dominate you off the bat, they are advanced but they don't get free supply lines and magical logistics like they would in other strategy games.
i dont understand why you say building a base on europa is good? didnt the story tell that the wormhole is close to neptune? closer to saturn as compared to mercury?
Actually if you want easy transport to the outer planets and beyond, it makes sense to be launching most of your missions from Mercury. Reason being, Mercury is on average the closest to everything else in the solar system (aside from the sun itself). If you're taking off from Earth, you're going to be on the other side of the sun half of the time, and so your travel time will be awful. See this guide: th-cam.com/video/SumDHcnCRuU/w-d-xo.html (the rare CGP Grey/Potato crossover event)
I took this advice, and the aliens bombarded my outer colony system while they were in transit 😂
@@ishanchegu Neptune orbital distance is 4.5b km and Saturn is 1.4b km. Even at optimal launch distance travel time will be huge.
Double uploads are sooo good. Thanks
Tru dat
Yeah! No surrender, show them xenos what equal means.
I also enjoy how different the two play thrus i'm watching are. Potatomcwhiskey playing as the idealistic academy, but are building fleets and have gotten into a shooting war.
The other is Perun playing as the “suffer not the xeno to live” Humanity first, but are playing a subtle game of not provoking them too much.
yes perun seems much more familiar with the game, and seems to be going the way of strike once strike hard. here potato doesnt know the nuances, so hes literally discovering the breaking points of every part of the game. perun is going the beeline covert strike route, potato is going first principles. super fun
Why not start reasearching at least a bit of permanent peace to actually win the game? It is your win condition. Research it, and win.
Someone already said it, but those 'unlucky' rolls are related to loyalty
This series is inspirational for every 4x game campaign I've ever played where I got super frustrated and felt like giving up on the whole game.
Also as much as I love the Civ content and find it super helpful for improving my game, it's really engrossing watching you actually struggle through something compared to crushing most Civ campaigns.
Absolutely!
8:50 They immediately fired him b/c they must have turned one of your guys (your ppl have low loyalty, you should get an agent with inspire to boost that), so they knew that you turned their guy. The AI is really bad at hiding the fact that they turned one of your operatives as they will do actions like this that blatantly show you that they have eyes on the inside.
its probably intentional game design; by this point most people would have concluded that their councilors were corrupted from the game giving nondirect feedback like failing easy missions and such
I love that Potato has just done a complete 180 on staying neutral with the other factions, since they're all at war with him anyway. It's like, "well, if you want a war, you're gonna get a bloody war!"
they fired that councilor after you turned him because they probally have a turned councilor in your organization
I have been playing this game to much. I really need the brit to do a perfectly balanced video on this.
9:00 if they immediately fire a compromised operative one of yours is probably compromised.
Literally refreshing every couple hours to check for this series, it's awesome. I really wish I could afford the game lol
Inspire your councilors. I think you have turned agents (hence all the mad fails too maybe), the Protectorate guy getting dumped the moment you turned him is a 100% indicator they have one one of yours.
Jailing other Councillor is a great way to slow them down, as it makes them unable to act for 3-4 turns, costing you 1.
With an infiltrated guy, you could theoretically permanently jail all their Councillor until they fire them, instead of killing them, using only one of your councilor. (jail 4 in sequence, keep the turned guy free, and make his fail high once you have all 4 jailed, meaning you keep sight of them all anyway :D)
I haven't tried that, but it sounds like a decent tactic vs servants. If they can't aact, they can't give nations to aliens. Also, it's a special mission to give nation to aliens, if you can find that agent, trap him asap.
You want to keep failure chance of turned councilors low. The AI figures out really quickly it's agent is a Spy if it's failure is high. Also figures it out if it's the only 1 not being detained
a bit of a problem with this is that detaining an enemy councilor actually only detains them for a single turn. You need to constantly detain them to keep them under lock permanently and after being detained for about 3 turns or so the ai will just fire the councilor and hire a new one.
@@Shadow-bk1im There is a mission to free contained concilor. AI usually do it. Still takes both concilor's turn :D
Usually it gives me the message that they fired them though.
I hope you come back again with another play through as a different faction!
Causing unrest in the alien nation is really the best defence against it. If the alien nation gets too powerful, the 7.4 miltech spider mechs will be deployed and absolutely obliterate you. Those spider mechs can tank 2-3 direct nuke hits without being destroyed.
If you think you've lost, then let me remind you: you've progressed further than everyone else.
So, I had a thought today at work. Imagine if the Aliens are already subverting us IRL and they've taken over the developers of Terra Invictor, in order to have humans run multiple simulations of how they would defend from a supposed Alien invasion, to further their own cause. Literally spent 4 hours of my shift today pondering the consequences lol.
Massive respect for continuing the fight and not save scumming or restarting!
Poor potato still hadn't learned that he should not be using electric engines on his combat ships.
Your smaller combat ships should have>2g acceleration (gees...not milli gees!). Maybe try old fassioned liquid engines?) and you only need the bare minimum fuel tanks - just enough to traverse the gravity well that it's defending.
Ion/electric drives should only be used for long range, non-combat ships (colony/exploratory).
Hope that helps
I like to think this is one of the many alternate universes and that despite the almost certain pain humanity has caused the aliens, they would end up being respected
My guess is even compared to the other ones humanity for their tech level appears to be putting up a giant fight.
we truly are the space orks
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This game is insanely well done. After we get a handle on the depth of the mechanics I hope it doesn’t become as trivial as some other strategy games. And by god we need factional diplomacy.
you know its coming. in fact your youtube channel idea could be just that, hacking terra invicta 🤣
Cant get enough of this series!
I'm watching this like a sci-f movie. Commentary makes it perfect. 100% addicted :D
This is quite the impressive run... its honestly fun to watch you run through this game and how you struggle. I do agree with some of your statements from... I think the last video that the game is just kind of overwhelming in how it has so much stuff that you don't know what it will do until you are already much later into it. Where you can end up with a 50 hour campaign turning into a slog and not even know it until you are 2/3rds through because the game tells you so little of what does what if you don't go check stuff online. The early ship technology for example almost seems like more of a trap for new players than anything else, with how they are too weak to do anything but cost resources anyway.
Personally though, while I do enjoy the idea of the game its far too time consuming to get anywhere for me to play... like it takes hours just to get even a minor space-station online. Never mind for anything beyond that... I basically sent a refund request today (Though the playtime is already over 2 hours so may not get a refund at all.) just because I was pretty sure I would never get even a third through a game without going "WTF was I doing again in this game?" because I forgot about the game for a few weeks and then reloaded a file.... So unless they add in some speed-up options and make things less opaque the game isn't for me. Just don't have the time, energy and motivation for this kind of playstile... I will just enjoy others playing I guess.
I know this is recorded in advance but you definitely need to investigate bao mi la, think she is turned.
While watching i notice you seem to lack Science Attribute, it also didn´t help that you focused so much on Endgoal Tech instead of Tech that improves your Investments/Cp Limit. Combined with the high Xenofauna it really makes the Alien Agents more Powerful. And Check more often if you can improve the Stats of your Agents 20 Xp is enough to Lvl up there is no point to just Collect the Xp. Also Skills like Quick Learner are the most OP Skills because you save so much XP and have more Stats overall which makes everything easier.
Find another faction u can be friends with. Long term... until the end when u force the aliens to peace talks. On another note... unless the game also has random different aliens with different tech and agenda, the game will get old unlike Civ6. Still like the game
The aliens have different internal factions that will cause the aliens as a whole to do different things depending on which alien factions are the more powerful.
Probably still not as diverse as Civ 6, but between that and the human factions there should be a decent amount of replayability.
I'm just flaberghasted how Potato has an easy time making 1k fleets by mid 2030s while I'm still in the 200s range of fleet power lol
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He has 2k science a day now 😭
2k science a month, he set resources to monthly view a couple episodes back
Are you playing the academy? Other factions have worse tech I assume
Hydra 16, that alien must have been on earth for years gaining levels. If you can avoid going to TWICE the MC level that triggers aggression you probably can afford assassinating more hydras XD
This game is bullshit 😭 I played another on cinematic, year two servants somehow capped USA, and they immediately destroyed all of my countries and spawned in 3 councilors with 17+ security to suppress unrest in America after I killed the tree there previously.
Made it so it was literally impossible for me to do anything at all.
They rival and destroy any point I tag.
This is a rollercoaster of emotion which challenges space operas such as Battlestar Galactica. I am hooked!
Game is dope, can wait to see you play it again
It's funny that as you progress the game further, the introduction just becomes more depressing and how the game is consuming you slowly hahahaha
Jesus! You should not have to manually replace every effing module in every space installation. Not every mod team would make good devs it seems.
I want a rematch with the same base tactics; Academy or Resistance with giga Europe. That way we can see improvement and changes in alien behaviour.
I think you have a turned counselor in your counsel. Thou this is my opinion it could be something completely different Thou.
Actually kind of bugging me potato doesn't even consider anything below 20%. Sometimes it's worth the risk
More a matter of action economy. Councillor actions are really the most precious resource you have, and one of the major balancing factors of the game that prevents uncontrollable snowballs is that factions can't scale their councillor numbers past a certain point.
What is the resistance!?!?! Like ur a robot a literally Ai robot and no care for humanity
sorry
i made f-hole comment - please don't ban
Edit: didn't know
This game does not respect player time to an almost unethical, immoral degree. That's sad.
potato.. when this series is done please god run another one. I might die if you don't keep going through the factions. :D
I haven't watched the two episodes from today yet, but I think that pheromones' resistance or what ever it is seems to be incredibly important, the fact they can just flip a country you've invested into with no trouble is insane! and the fact it happened in pretty much a decade with no warning or pop up a year or two earlier saying something like: " we've detected massive gravity anomaly, something big is gonna happen". i think the game needs to make an effort at communicating the state of solar system every once in awhile.
Uh oh the US has gone bad... so exciting/scary!
One strategy I started doing when stations got really cheap to make was to focus on a type of research and spam a bunch of research bonus, then switch over to a different bonus when needed
So you could say it’s a *siege of terra*
potato, you have effectively cut most of the other factions off at the knees so they arent very good youve blasted ahead... so the aliens are only seeing you as a threat because you are the only threat, now youve slowed down alittel the others have caught up but have also ben trampled by the alians
Keep up the great work and positive attitude in face of frustration!
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I'm so glad you're doing more than one video a day of these 🔥🔥
This feels like me in Stellaris haphazardly setting up layers of starforts against the endgame crisis because the AI allowed it to grow too big
F dem aliens!!!!!!!!!!
Keep playing potato
Loving the series and game, Potato. Great long-view spotlight on this. I wouldn't have otherwise ever known about this game. I'm intrigued to see more!
You legend. I've been hooked on this and waiting, not so patiently for my next fix!
Intresting how the pae of the game works different. I am at 2036 and on my current Soviet Union opressive Humanity Firt playthough .. no aliens are on ground.. only 2 megafauna hatched in the world. No alien ships attack my bases. BUT. There has been a constant wold war that is draining humanity resources like HELL. For example in your game US army is 4.2 level. In my game it is 6.0! Fighting US troops is insanity and I need to Obliterate them from orbit with a fleet whole built for that purpose ( several ships that can barely move but have huge ass advanced railguns)
*Copium became Hopium! :D*
WOW! I never knew about the research distribution bonus! And im in 2035 😭 Thank you so much
This series is by far the best I’ve watched, the struggle is real, rlly awesome that you’re keeping this up
I started with the EU and managed to take the US from the Servants, something that probably saved the day given that they had 9 armies and a high tech level there.
But now the aliens started to attack my outposts and I did encounter a mothership and several frigates taking out my main base. Can you give me an idea of how the whole base defense works? Because I had 3 level 2 defense modules and didn´t even damage a frigate. I have no control over the whole base it seems and it just fired on incomin missiles till the end.
Oh my god there are map mods.......I've played for so long without them!!!
I wonder how close the Servants are to completing their goals? What percentage of the Earth's population do they control now? Can't remember what else they need to win.
I want 3 Terra Invicta videos a day or I'll unsub
Jk XD keep up the good work
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Aliens captured half of the world in my game, eventually they will revolt and flip back to humanity but the ai needs to target the aliens instead of you.
Does this game crash much for you? I realise its early access. Just wondering if its my computer or if its a game that is still a work in progress. Im playing late game stellaris without issues.
Some of your councilors are mist likely turned. The Vietnamese women is most likely turned.
When you hit the MC cap, what you need to do is use your annual direct investment in mission control in one ( or more ) of you spacefaring nations. Cheers.
Hi, I'm about to buy this game because of you! Any way you can be rewarded for your hard work ?`
I just want the interstellar song to play when he does something huge because it would fit so well 😂 would be funny and an interesting twist from most of his videos
Yeah i think your critical mistake on this run was to upset the aliens too early, not only does hostile actions against the aliens increase their response, but your amount of used Mission Control will also have an impact, without the right techs you need to be careful with that.
the Earth is getting darker the moment a nuclear bomb explodes.😢
the battle is not over brothers.✊
You need to go after the alien space bases if you destroy them you basically cripple them
This series has been such a ride! Keep it up!
We can rebuild with nuclear snowmen in our irradiated igloos. If we need to get hot first, we can deal with the winter later.
A special siege operation
POTATO IT HAS BEEN 9 HOURS AND NO NEW VIDEOS OF TERRA INVINCTA ARE YOU OKAY?
This has been one of my fav series, thanks
Some of those un-researched cheap techs intrigue me.
Also potato you have a lot of alien plants in Russia. Might want to lean that up
90% = 30%
It's XCOM rules.
Any chance you could add episode numbers to your thumbnails? I've resorted to using a screenshot of your recent uploads to figure out the order in which to watch these.
That said, I love your work. Keep it up!
He has a playlist on his channel, which should help with the watching order. But yeah.
Potato two episodes ago : "This game is not fun anymore, I will abandon..."
Potato now after he found his particles of manliness back : "Purge the Xenos!!!!"
+1 for "particles of manliness"
i'm glad you aren't broken
You have to actually fight the alien nation
Now this is quality content :D
Firstly, thank you yet again for all your uploads - Every time I watch one I learn something new, be it Civ6 or this (and like you, now addicted - indeed, I bought it right after the first episode of this series) and you were certainly not joking about the sheer, mind buggering complexity on offer here coupled with really not knowing what the right options are & I have had some thoughts on this I would like to throw out
First up, it seems to me that the AI is at long last one that can take actions right back at you & it even appears to know how to do war both covertly and overtly from what I have seen, and players who are used to the weak-ass AI in Civ6 are in for a rude awakening. Yes, the Aliens seem OP - but if I have correctly divined one of the intents of the developers (judging totally from their forums) this is realistic - and it seems to be one of the main goals to be as realistic as possible within the confines of still being a game, and therefore fun. But it definitely seems that there will be no easy victories (at least, to begin with) until we all learn what is important for each faction, how to not only manipulate in our favour but also against the AI.
But there's the rub right there - how do we know what the correct course of action ought to be when dealing with what is - in every sense of the word - an Alien situation. They must be OP, or there is no game at all - let's face it, any creatures that can get here can take over any time they want militarily if that is the way they want to do it as they must needs be way, WAY ahead of us technically and (this is important too) with alien motivation.
Trial & Error is the only way here, frustrating at times as this is (I have restarted a few times now, and each start is getting better as I learn more. This brings me to my second realization - it's okay to abandon a play through if you realise something seriously important that you did not do before - why fight through if you know you are losing purely because you don'y yet understand the mechanics & their various interactions as well as where you should be prioritizing your research efforts as by stubbornly fighting through I believe (although of course I may well be wrong) there will be negative consequences along the lines of brain overload caused by too much information too quickly, which unless you have a memory like a Supercomputer will be overwhelming.
Another area which I know full well I fell right into at first was getting greedy, thinking I could merge into Mega-Nations but without first fully understanding the absolute necessity of needing the potential to exist in the first place - You cannot take over Mexico as the USA peacefully until you get the right tech, and it comes too late really.
Invasion would be the sole option and that is risky - I think, but don't really know as I have not as yet tried this.
Please though, keep up the playthroughs. They really are awesome & entertaining at the same time - it also makes a change to see you not just deciding at the start what your win condition will be as in Civ6, and for me this difference is huge as it's simply not possible in this game to say 'This is how I will win today'.
more terra invicta is more happiness
The Siege of Terra continues!
Giving you my energy potato \o/
Potato! Get ready to see the "War Dog" XD
I'm enjoying this game, and it did give me some hope to see that you were also getting your butt kicked in your first playthrough. In my second playthrough, I figured I'd try to play nice with the other factions so we could take on the aliens together, but I quickly found out that's not really a thing yet. Early access, sigh. Still, this game could be one of the greats once it's finished.