If you like revenge stories, you HAVE TO READ Rage of Dragons by Evan Winter. First book of his Fires of Vengeance Series. It is NON-STOP full on hate-fuelled revenge. Second book is incredible as well. You cannot put the books down.
@@xKingsman08x read this and got the book on audible. Listened to rage of the dragons and the fires of vengeance in like 4 days! Some of the best books I’ve ever read. I Thankyou for the recommendation!
Im about 2/3 through Hunger now and I agree the slower pace helps with fleshing everything else out. It reminds me of Fires of Vengeance, where slowing down the insane pace of the first entry really helped me get attached to everything besides the action. Previously i wouldn’t say im a fan of the author. I didn’t like Faithful and the Fallen at all because the characters were basic and the world building was bad. But this new series is pretty solid. The characters continue to grow on me and the clear Norse influence is just awesome. Hopefully the climax of this one will impress!
John Gwynne is the man! After reading Shadow of the Gods and Hunger of the Gods, I decided to read all of The Faithful and the Fallen series. Also a very good series. Can't wait for Book 3 of the Bloodsworn
I listened to the first in this series based on a few Tik Toks I saw which included one of yours. I watched this full video today and in general I do agree with pretty much everything you said except the final rating. I liked the beginning, thought there was a bit of a drag in the middle, and then finished pretty strong. The drag I mention isn't because there is any lack of action, but because I had a pretty good idea where things were going. The end was a perfect setup for a sequel. I'd give it a 6.2. Overall an above average story, but I just felt bored through a lot of it. Also I cook while I listen to these books, and the pronunciation of those words is nuts and not easy to follow when cooking. Also I missed out on the map you mentioned. I'm switching to the way of kings now, but was wondering if either of you have read the Riyria Revelations. It's the fantasy trilogy I compare all other fantasy books to and has the best finale I've ever read. I'd recommend it if you haven't read it before. Thanks for the content too. I'm pretty much relying on you guys for all of my future book recommendations.
Thanks for the reviews, guys! Much appreciated from a new booktuber. :) I have a couple of questions, I hope you can answer for me: 1. Between this and Mr. Gwynne's previous trilogy - which should I read first? 2. I'm sure there is violence (I'm no stranger to fantasy! :) ) but is there much (if any) violence against children? Thanks for any clarification. :)
After reading "The Shadow of the Gods" and It beingthe first book i read from John Gwynne, i no longer will need convincing to read anything he had written or will write in the future.
@@thehyliangamer8458 His epic battles, badass characters, POV chapters, Norse Mythology nerd, represents women in the way I feel is superior, He is also a Viking Age Reenactor. His prose also just flows well for me.
@@BeardofDarkness wow thanks for actually replying! Alright I’ll take it into consideration… next question, should I read the Shadow of the gods first or should I read “malice”
Fury comes out in 2 weeks and I couldn’t be more excited! The characters, setting, plot, villains, gods and righteous VIOLENCE! Absolutely amazing. I couldn’t stop reading both books when they were in my hands. Can’t wait to see how the journey turns out with all these characters. 🙌🏽
I read this recently. It enjoyed it to an extent but it fell flat to me (maybe a 5.5/10). Maybe it was my expectations going in. My question is should I still try The Faithful and the Fallen? This was also my first read after stormlight so maybe it was that 😂 With your rating improving for the second book I might be tempted to try it. Orka did carry book 1 Edit 2: there is no other Dalinar!
Matt check out the Podcast, Wizards, Warriors & Words interview with John Gwynne.. he talks about the snake.. the interview is super even if you read the books by now!!
I read the books, really loved them, but i think Varg is by far the best character even more than Orka, and i think his parts get way better in the second book
Definitely agree. Orka's storyline was also my favorite in the first book with Elvar in close second. Varg became my favorite in the second, but they all are still great.
Varg’s opening POV in chapter 2 in Shadow of the Gods really hooked me and really immersed me in the world… I was listening on audiobook and I had to remind myself that I was home in my living room!!!
Just finished the two books. My favorites are in reverse lol, I enjoyed book one way more than book two. Book one drops you right in and you follow Orka killing things, my issue with book two is where John writing isn't as strong to me with development, though there was moments that made everything clicked, it felt dragged a bit.
Richard, Orcdad told me to watch this video during your chat with John @ Talking Story! This is one of my favorite series!!! Another commentator who loves it too, told me what God she thinks will be on the cover of The Fury of the Gods… think about it…which God would blow your mind… just think it, do not say it!!!
Hey guys, can I ask your opinion real quick ? 0:) So, I am French. And today I noticed while reading The shadow of the gods in english a strange rythm in my "flow of reading". I just began this book today, and I am a bit ... "uncomfortable" by the prose used by the author. But I don't know if it's due to my first language, french, wich is very descriptive as a language. Almost "overly poetic". You just need to compare the number of pages between an english book and the french translation. You'd be surprised to see that there are ~20% more words in french. (Don't you want to know what is told to the french that you don't know ? :p :p :p ) So my question for you : have you noticed something while reading TSOG? What do you think of the author's way of writing ? I thought the rythm was a bit "chopped" while reading , but I don't so oftenly read fantasy in english. And as you can read, my sentences are way longer that the one's from John Gwyne. For exemple, the second part of this sentence (p26, chapter 3), I noticed wasn't writen in the same order that I would've in my french-programmed-mind : "The three wariors on the stairs took a step closer, hands moving to rest close to weapons." I'm just curious to know if it's the author's style that make me feel this way or if I just have to get used to it. ^^
Great question - passing this over to Rich since I havent read the book and he can give some thoughts on this - my guess is that it could be language barrier?
Rich here. I do think modern fantasy writing commonly has a choppy style. So I don't think John Gwyne is unique to this style. I believe the reason for it, is to focus more on the action and dialogue making the reading fast and easy to read. I think Brandon Sanderson writes in a similar way. However if you are looking for more flowing prose I would check out Tad Williams, Christopher Rocchio, or Robin Hobb. For modern fantasy, you may need to get use to the style, especially with your French language barrier.
@@2ToRamble Thanks for yours answers. After a few chapters, it's getting easier to get the rythm. The differences are quite interesting in fact when comparing french and english fantasy writing. I should try and look into why theses differences, overmore when it's a translation. Now, I may have to find out how's Sanderson prose in its original form. With the prologue out, and no date out for the french translation, i'm so eager to knooooooow ! =D
@@2ToRamble The idea of gigantic beast old gods really tickles my fancy. Hmm, I suppose I'll give it a shot and see. I don't mind characters being less than perfect, but tired of seeing characters championed on having a gray moral compass and for flinging traditional ethics into the wind.
My bff always calls it nobles with an s. I have only tried to listen to the first book and I really don’t love this narrator. I so rarely have time to actually read a book and I wish he would use a different narrator. Colin Mace also narrates the rs moule and John winning books. He’s super prominent in the narration world but I just don’t like him.
I got a copy of Shadow of the Gods for Christmas because my girlfriend remembered me showing her this video
just started reading, super excited about this one after finishing reading assassin's apprentice by robin hobb
Have yet to see a review in this podcast style. Loved it. Please keep it going
If you like revenge stories, you HAVE TO READ Rage of Dragons by Evan Winter. First book of his Fires of Vengeance Series. It is NON-STOP full on hate-fuelled revenge. Second book is incredible as well. You cannot put the books down.
It’s incredible and in the guy on the left (Richie) says it’s in his top 10 personal favorite fantasy books. Really really great.
@@2ToRamble It's fantastic. Hyper-speed. Gotta get into it
@@xKingsman08x read this and got the book on audible. Listened to rage of the dragons and the fires of vengeance in like 4 days! Some of the best books I’ve ever read. I Thankyou for the recommendation!
I really like the format of this review! It gives a good idea about the book and a bit of excitement for reading it too. 😊👍
Just finished Shadow. Glad you guys did a video on this one. I like hearing your thoughts.
I’m just under halfway of shadow the gods and completely agree, Varg and Orka chapters keep making me come back and love their story so far.
Im about 2/3 through Hunger now and I agree the slower pace helps with fleshing everything else out. It reminds me of Fires of Vengeance, where slowing down the insane pace of the first entry really helped me get attached to everything besides the action.
Previously i wouldn’t say im a fan of the author. I didn’t like Faithful and the Fallen at all because the characters were basic and the world building was bad.
But this new series is pretty solid. The characters continue to grow on me and the clear Norse influence is just awesome. Hopefully the climax of this one will impress!
The end of Hunger really leaves you wanting more - glad you’re enjoying!
Love this channel. Look forward to your videos
Coming back that Fury with the cover was just posted on his instagram!
John Gwynne is the man! After reading Shadow of the Gods and Hunger of the Gods, I decided to read all of The Faithful and the Fallen series. Also a very good series. Can't wait for Book 3 of the Bloodsworn
Love the format, and the book collection! You guys read wizard of earthsea by Ursula K le Guin?
Thankya! And we havent - it’s definitely on the list
I listened to the first in this series based on a few Tik Toks I saw which included one of yours. I watched this full video today and in general I do agree with pretty much everything you said except the final rating. I liked the beginning, thought there was a bit of a drag in the middle, and then finished pretty strong. The drag I mention isn't because there is any lack of action, but because I had a pretty good idea where things were going. The end was a perfect setup for a sequel. I'd give it a 6.2. Overall an above average story, but I just felt bored through a lot of it. Also I cook while I listen to these books, and the pronunciation of those words is nuts and not easy to follow when cooking. Also I missed out on the map you mentioned.
I'm switching to the way of kings now, but was wondering if either of you have read the Riyria Revelations. It's the fantasy trilogy I compare all other fantasy books to and has the best finale I've ever read. I'd recommend it if you haven't read it before.
Thanks for the content too. I'm pretty much relying on you guys for all of my future book recommendations.
Thanks for the reviews, guys! Much appreciated from a new booktuber. :)
I have a couple of questions, I hope you can answer for me:
1. Between this and Mr. Gwynne's previous trilogy - which should I read first?
2. I'm sure there is violence (I'm no stranger to fantasy! :) ) but is there much (if any) violence against children?
Thanks for any clarification. :)
Loved this, just picked up the book 🐍🦴
Let us know what you think!
After reading "The Shadow of the Gods" and It beingthe first book i read from John Gwynne, i no longer will need convincing to read anything he had written or will write in the future.
Can I ask why? I’m considering trying his books and need some input
@@thehyliangamer8458 His epic battles, badass characters, POV chapters, Norse Mythology nerd, represents women in the way I feel is superior, He is also a Viking Age Reenactor. His prose also just flows well for me.
@@BeardofDarkness wow thanks for actually replying! Alright I’ll take it into consideration… next question, should I read the Shadow of the gods first or should I read “malice”
@@thehyliangamer8458I would read Malice first since it’s a part of the series called “ the faithful and the fallen” which has been completed.
I’ve just started The Shadow of the Gods. Awesome video
Fury comes out in 2 weeks and I couldn’t be more excited! The characters, setting, plot, villains, gods and righteous VIOLENCE! Absolutely amazing. I couldn’t stop reading both books when they were in my hands. Can’t wait to see how the journey turns out with all these characters. 🙌🏽
Same here. I intend to read it in November - R
You sold me on the giant snake thing.
You had me at Norse Mythology. The books sounds awesome definitly going to try.
I read this recently. It enjoyed it to an extent but it fell flat to me (maybe a 5.5/10). Maybe it was my expectations going in. My question is should I still try The Faithful and the Fallen? This was also my first read after stormlight so maybe it was that 😂
With your rating improving for the second book I might be tempted to try it. Orka did carry book 1
Edit 2: there is no other Dalinar!
ORKA FOREVA!!! 😁. Read them both. Cried my eyes out at the end of Hunger of the Gods!
Gods.... look like this.... uh oh... dead snake for mountains. OK I'm done. That's enough spoilers for me. Sold. Add to cart.
Matt check out the Podcast, Wizards, Warriors & Words interview with John Gwynne.. he talks about the snake.. the interview is super even if you read the books by now!!
I read the books, really loved them, but i think Varg is by far the best character even more than Orka, and i think his parts get way better in the second book
Definitely agree. Orka's storyline was also my favorite in the first book with Elvar in close second. Varg became my favorite in the second, but they all are still great.
Varg’s opening POV in chapter 2 in Shadow of the Gods really hooked me and really immersed me in the world… I was listening on audiobook and I had to remind myself that I was home in my living room!!!
Just finished the two books. My favorites are in reverse lol, I enjoyed book one way more than book two. Book one drops you right in and you follow Orka killing things, my issue with book two is where John writing isn't as strong to me with development, though there was moments that made everything clicked, it felt dragged a bit.
Y’all should do a Faithful and the Fallen review.
Richard, Orcdad told me to watch this video during your chat with John @ Talking Story! This is one of my favorite series!!! Another commentator who loves it too, told me what God she thinks will be on the cover of The Fury of the Gods… think about it…which God would blow your mind… just think it, do not say it!!!
Thanks for watching. I'll keep the name in my head. 😶🌫️
In my top 5 fantasy series, despite only being 2 books published lol
Hey guys, can I ask your opinion real quick ? 0:)
So, I am French. And today I noticed while reading The shadow of the gods in english a strange rythm in my "flow of reading". I just began this book today, and I am a bit ... "uncomfortable" by the prose used by the author.
But I don't know if it's due to my first language, french, wich is very descriptive as a language. Almost "overly poetic".
You just need to compare the number of pages between an english book and the french translation. You'd be surprised to see that there are ~20% more words in french. (Don't you want to know what is told to the french that you don't know ? :p :p :p )
So my question for you : have you noticed something while reading TSOG? What do you think of the author's way of writing ? I thought the rythm was a bit "chopped" while reading , but I don't so oftenly read fantasy in english. And as you can read, my sentences are way longer that the one's from John Gwyne.
For exemple, the second part of this sentence (p26, chapter 3), I noticed wasn't writen in the same order that I would've in my french-programmed-mind : "The three wariors on the stairs took a step closer, hands moving to rest close to weapons."
I'm just curious to know if it's the author's style that make me feel this way or if I just have to get used to it. ^^
Great question - passing this over to Rich since I havent read the book and he can give some thoughts on this - my guess is that it could be language barrier?
Rich here. I do think modern fantasy writing commonly has a choppy style. So I don't think John Gwyne is unique to this style. I believe the reason for it, is to focus more on the action and dialogue making the reading fast and easy to read. I think Brandon Sanderson writes in a similar way. However if you are looking for more flowing prose I would check out Tad Williams, Christopher Rocchio, or Robin Hobb. For modern fantasy, you may need to get use to the style, especially with your French language barrier.
@@2ToRamble Thanks for yours answers. After a few chapters, it's getting easier to get the rythm. The differences are quite interesting in fact when comparing french and english fantasy writing. I should try and look into why theses differences, overmore when it's a translation.
Now, I may have to find out how's Sanderson prose in its original form. With the prologue out, and no date out for the french translation, i'm so eager to knooooooow ! =D
Is the snake you mention the World Serpant? I just finished the God of War book, after finishing the game, and remember the giant world eating snake.
It seems like it’s inspired from it, but they have different names/some differences. Could be wrong!
I love this um I guess template to the video
Does it tap into good vs evil themes, or is it more moral gray character porn / ubermensch philosophy?
There is clearly a good and evil side. But the good characters sometimes dip their toe into the grey.
@@2ToRamble The idea of gigantic beast old gods really tickles my fancy. Hmm, I suppose I'll give it a shot and see. I don't mind characters being less than perfect, but tired of seeing characters championed on having a gray moral compass and for flinging traditional ethics into the wind.
@@WolfGr33d it’s kinda everyone in this book is Logen Nine Fingers in a way or another.
My bff always calls it nobles with an s. I have only tried to listen to the first book and I really don’t love this narrator. I so rarely have time to actually read a book and I wish he would use a different narrator. Colin Mace also narrates the rs moule and John winning books. He’s super prominent in the narration world but I just don’t like him.
Are these books woke ? Can someone tell me ?
AAAAAANNNNDD FIRST
Red rising is the best seris !
What an old treasure 🤣🤌🏻 I wanted to use your own vid to pitch this book tonight, but I don't wanna know anything about the plot...