I've done a fair bit of reading on cages and harness bars and from what I have learners that rear harness bar is way to low. The bar needs to be at shoulder level or else in a wreck it will probably result in a broken collar bone. Just my 2 cents... love those seats.
Keith Jones good point. I did do some adjusting to the rear harness bar after I hooked up the harness. I removed the plastic molding from around the cage and moved the knuckles down so it moved the bar up.
I was excited to see you install something from Rock Hard. Lew Barth and his wife (owners of Rock Hard) are an amazing couple and are seriously passionate about Jeeps! They are also members of our Jeep Club in Kearney, NE. As always, thanks for your great videos!
That's great to hear! It's awesome that they are part of your club and have the true passion for Jeeps... those are the kind of folks we can all respect!
Norseman yep, they make some real good products. I had the full Sport cage on RockTrooper and it was a great mod. Still debating a full cage setup for this rig....
This is one of the few sites I always watch the adds all the way through. One of the others, 1st508th Airbornes site. He has been a dog lover and help developing a few 'new' breed of dogs, namely his Blue Bay shepherd and a wonderful Renascence Bulldog, a bulldog now a class of its own. If you guys get a chance, give a brother some love. Thanks. And another great post TrailRecon.
If I member right the harness bar is suppose to be lined up with the rear holes in the seat if not you get into a roll over or crash your going to hurt someone how they are mounted right now
I was thinking that I recognized John's voice. I remember using his SPOD video as a guide for my install. I think I used his Lux Lighting rock light video for that install as well. I always pictured Rock Trooper being from Colorado.
Same here rbuste, I personally used many of John's "HOW-TO" videos from his Rocktrooper channel back in 2013/14 to help me with my Jeep upgrades before I had met him. Today, now that I know John personally, I can tell you unequivocally that he is a guy that you can trust to do any job the right way. He is a very meticulous guy and puts a lot of thought and consideration into all he does before he shares it here on TH-cam for all to see.
Great video! Almost makes me want to trade in my 4Runner for a Jeep. Almost! Just a thought, could you use some MOLLE gear or something similar attached to the rear bar to store recovery and/or first aid equipment?
4Runners are great rigs, no need to trade it... well maybe when the JL diesel comes out?! I think the MOLLE ides is a great idea for utilizing that bar for some storage.
when drilling metal, don't drill at a fast speed like this. it's more efficient to drill slowly. The bit won't heat up as much and the bit will dig into the metal easier and faster
Could I help me. I would like to order these but I need to know what am I or other Jeep owners supposed to do about the airbag light or can I order these with airbags so I don’t have any issues to thanks
Just out of curiosity, what is the point of reclining chairs if they are going to have bars behind them? Can you adjust the seat much with the bars behind them?
I noticed at the beginning of the video, the jeep had the factory fenders. At 9:38 & 9:54, it now has aluminum flat fenders. Who makes these particular flat fenders.
Jim Reed yep, lots of stuff going on! Wait until you see the Genright install, we had all hands on deck and we tackled the upgrade as a team! We still have suspension and axles yet to get installed. Stay tuned!
LOL, I was not cleaning the threads. I was retapping them. RH4X4 includes a tap to redo the holes. It makes threading the bolts into the collar much easier!
I totally cringed too! The Rock Hard instructions even advise to clean out the threads, prior to install. Definitely a job that I did, by hand, when I installed my Rock Hard harness bar!! I also installed my bar at shoulder height, to avoid injury in a roll-over. Just constructive criticism, I love the vids!!
What kind of safety testing has been done on system your front bar attached to lip of B piller no support in middle to keep bar from folding rear bar was so low and no torque specs for the clamp bolts . Honestly not to impressed with it
I like it, and I realize you are utilizing 5 point harnesses but having my kids sitting back there with that metal roll bar feet in front of them makes me uncomfortable.
Well, for now I simply plugged the OEM seatbelt into the receiver and placed it under the seat. I am still reviewing the overall strategy with the OEM seatbelt assembly as well as the airbags (Sensors and bag) that I removed from the OEM seats.
It's in there correctly they just have seats that are way too tall for the rear. That bar would be fine if you had the stock seat or a non suspension seat
5 point harnesses are uncomfortable. If you are a professional great, use them. Most will find themselves only using them in extreme terrain. The rest of the time they are worn to loose to be safe or not at all. But they look cool :|
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I've done a fair bit of reading on cages and harness bars and from what I have learners that rear harness bar is way to low. The bar needs to be at shoulder level or else in a wreck it will probably result in a broken collar bone. Just my 2 cents... love those seats.
Keith Jones good point. I did do some adjusting to the rear harness bar after I hooked up the harness. I removed the plastic molding from around the cage and moved the knuckles down so it moved the bar up.
I was excited to see you install something from Rock Hard. Lew Barth and his wife (owners of Rock Hard) are an amazing couple and are seriously passionate about Jeeps! They are also members of our Jeep Club in Kearney, NE. As always, thanks for your great videos!
That's great to hear! It's awesome that they are part of your club and have the true passion for Jeeps... those are the kind of folks we can all respect!
Norseman yep, they make some real good products. I had the full Sport cage on RockTrooper and it was a great mod. Still debating a full cage setup for this rig....
That jeep is coming along very nicely !!! I noticed the different fenders too lol....
Those are my list to install. Thanks for the how to video. Coming from a off road back ground I love 5 point harnesses.
Awesome, thank you!
Bill Rader the harness definitely takes a bit of getter by used to, but now I don't even notice it and it really keeps me snugged into the seat
You killed me with the dremel cuts.
Great Job, Guys! The Jeep in looking fantastic!!
It's coming along nice for sure!
What a great install video. We are looking into upgrades on the cage and safety. Looks like a easy install.
This is one of the few sites I always watch the adds all the way through. One of the others, 1st508th Airbornes site. He has been a dog lover and help developing a few 'new' breed of dogs, namely his Blue Bay shepherd and a wonderful Renascence Bulldog, a bulldog now a class of its own. If you guys get a chance, give a brother some love. Thanks. And another great post
TrailRecon.
If I member right the harness bar is suppose to be lined up with the rear holes in the seat if not you get into a roll over or crash your going to hurt someone how they are mounted right now
I was thinking that I recognized John's voice. I remember using his SPOD video as a guide for my install. I think I used his Lux Lighting rock light video for that install as well. I always pictured Rock Trooper being from Colorado.
Yep, John started making videos on RockTrooper before I began TrailRecon... lot's of good stuff over on his channel!
Same here rbuste, I personally used many of John's "HOW-TO" videos from his Rocktrooper channel back in 2013/14 to help me with my Jeep upgrades before I had met him. Today, now that I know John personally, I can tell you unequivocally that he is a guy that you can trust to do any job the right way. He is a very meticulous guy and puts a lot of thought and consideration into all he does before he shares it here on TH-cam for all to see.
rbuste thanks! You know part of the plan back in the day was to move from California to Colorado, however it never happened. Maybe one day!
Hey Brad, nice install! Jeeps coming along nice. Install looks very clean. Good job!
This was an easy and clean install.... can't say that about everything we do on the Jeep!
What is the purpose of putting reclining seats in a jeep, and then put a bar behind them , so you can't use them?
Another great video. I love following this build!
great video guys
Thanks!
Great video! Almost makes me want to trade in my 4Runner for a Jeep. Almost!
Just a thought, could you use some MOLLE gear or something similar attached to the rear bar to store recovery and/or first aid equipment?
4Runners are great rigs, no need to trade it... well maybe when the JL diesel comes out?! I think the MOLLE ides is a great idea for utilizing that bar for some storage.
when drilling metal, don't drill at a fast speed like this. it's more efficient to drill slowly. The bit won't heat up as much and the bit will dig into the metal easier and faster
How is the LizardSkin holding up? Did you reinstall the carpet or is the LizardSkin strong enough to withstand putting anything on top of it?
Could I help me. I would like to order these but I need to know what am I or other Jeep owners supposed to do about the airbag light or can I order these with airbags so I don’t have any issues to thanks
Just out of curiosity, what is the point of reclining chairs if they are going to have bars behind them? Can you adjust the seat much with the bars behind them?
captnbrandopink I am tall and I recline them back a good bit to get comfortable. Even after, there is still room to move back if needed.
Exactly my 1st thought . No point in installing those full reclining seats when the bar is right behind the seats
I noticed at the beginning of the video, the jeep had the factory fenders. At 9:38 & 9:54, it now has aluminum flat fenders. Who makes these particular flat fenders.
I knew someone would catch that! Yep, new fenders, bumper and sliders installed are from Genright. That video will be posted soon.
Jim Reed yep, lots of stuff going on! Wait until you see the Genright install, we had all hands on deck and we tackled the upgrade as a team! We still have suspension and axles yet to get installed. Stay tuned!
Not going to lie... I cringed a little when i saw him cleaning the threads with the drill
LOL, I was not cleaning the threads. I was retapping them. RH4X4 includes a tap to redo the holes. It makes threading the bolts into the collar much easier!
Not gonna lie. I really cringed when I saw you run a tap with a drill.
I totally cringed too! The Rock Hard instructions even advise to clean out the threads, prior to install. Definitely a job that I did, by hand, when I installed my Rock Hard harness bar!! I also installed my bar at shoulder height, to avoid injury in a roll-over. Just constructive criticism, I love the vids!!
It’s very easy to damage threads when using a power tool, I always start the tap by hand then use a power tool.
Ouch! Using a tap to clean out threads is a no no! You can buy a thread cleaning tool for this. Snap-On make one and that's what I use.
How many of you in the jeep club have some kind of sport cage?
It dont look like it would take much to rip that front bar out that close to the end of the metal where it bolted in
defeated the whole purpose of those reclining seats
What kind of safety testing has been done on system your front bar attached to lip of B piller no support in middle to keep bar from folding rear bar was so low and no torque specs for the clamp bolts . Honestly not to impressed with it
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What kind of yellow marker or grease pencil did you use?
Flex Honcho just a yellow paint pen, you can use anything really. I was going to use a black marker but that would not show up well
When's the big tires coming lol
Mary Poppins big tires are sitting in my garage....waiting on axles to arrive to get them on, Stay Tuned!
17/32" , Isn't that 1/32" larger than a half inch?
Just curious , is there a similar bar set up for a XJ ?
I like it, and I realize you are utilizing 5 point harnesses but having my kids sitting back there with that metal roll bar feet in front of them makes me uncomfortable.
Sonnicman I call it the "tooth chipper" 😉you can put a pad around the front bar, plus the harness will stop anything from moving forward.
how did they get rid of the seatbelt chime?
Well, for now I simply plugged the OEM seatbelt into the receiver and placed it under the seat. I am still reviewing the overall strategy with the OEM seatbelt assembly as well as the airbags (Sensors and bag) that I removed from the OEM seats.
What rear bumper and tire carrier are on that ZJ
That rear bar is installed incorrectly. It should be mounted at the base of the roll bar and angled up to the back of the seat.
It's in there correctly they just have seats that are way too tall for the rear. That bar would be fine if you had the stock seat or a non suspension seat
make any for dodge ram? 🤔
that bar looks like my head is going to smack it blunt force trauma and die on impact
Not if you're wearing those seatbelts lol
5 point harnesses are uncomfortable. If you are a professional great, use them. Most will find themselves only using them in extreme terrain. The rest of the time they are worn to loose to be safe or not at all. But they look cool :|
Twh Az I agree it does take a while to get used to. Now I don't even notice and can get in quickly.
What brand of front and rear seats are they?
They are by PRP, here is the video review we did of them: th-cam.com/video/fvY4__97rf8/w-d-xo.html
Maybe watch the video.