Unwritten Rules of FFXIV
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Don't queue up for Coils in Duty Finder either ;)
i can not imagine how long that would take to fill...
@@TheAuron32 I can, it literally never fills and I still need to do Coil 4.
Edit,
Ok thanks people so many replies, I am lvl 80 on my WHM and now Paladin, I was just waiting on the queues because I is dumb, and now our Lady Zepla has undumbed me, I probably can solo it just did not realise because even tho I have been playing since about a month after ARR started there is still stuff I don't know.
Thanks again such a nice crowd here.
@@melvoid01 my adivice would be get a few people and unync it, i highly doubt getting 8 people to do it synced will happen.
@@melvoid01 unsync solo it bro
he took me 120mins when I did it
Unwritten rule: If you're going to be doing weird stuff, there's a time and a place for it, and it's called Limsa Lominsa Aetheryte Plaza, and the time is always
XD
Or the Quicksands if you're on Crystal: Balmung/Mateus
Rip sprout who really felt they wanted to start as a marauder or archanist and just read the chat.
I've literally been wondering why so many people gather in Limsa...
i was in limsa yesterday and two people were role-playing smut in the "say" chat, so yes, limsa is a freakin weird place XD
"If someone is jumping they're signaling that it's a safe spot"
Dragoons are a living breathing safe spot
I play with my partner who happens to be Dragoon, best Class in my opinion. Always take him to hard dungeons, keeps me safe while I make everything burn.
HEY ! How rude to assume that ! As a DRG Main i have to say : Damn, dont call us out like that. We are jumpy bois q.q
A B J= always be jumpin
me, a dragoon main: sweating
@@GrandadmiralSeewolf We are jumpy bois!
"If you notice a party member is watching a cutscene, you better wait."
As a healer, I have let tanks die because they just run in while someone was watching a cutscene...and no, I'm not sorry, pay attention to your group, if you don't have the courtesy to wait, then you don't need heals rofl.
I'm so glad this is a thing because i am new to the game and I didn't know this at the time but in my very first dungeon while I and the rest of the party were watching a cutscene and getting loot, the tank ran off and pulled multiple mobs. And I typed in chat after he died "this is what happens when you don't wait" as the mobs bore down and killed the rest of us
I also quick cast resurrected him just before I died so that he could die all over again after the rest of us went back to the beginning
I have macro'd "Don't skip, just let me die!" For if I screw up as tank. It's easy to mess up and forget this is someone else's first time 30 times into a dungeon but that doesn't mean they should suffer. That's on me.
@@sendicard That is really cool and you deserve a lot of respect for that. I've had it happen quite a few times, but most of them have been that same kind of situation, only a couple have been from someone just being a jerk, and honestly, as someone who in a lot of mmos with my best friend, would rather run in myself to take the aggro so she could live (in a bad situation where we knew death was coming lol) it killed me all those times standing outside the lockout and not healing rofl.
As a sprout healer I was watching a cutscene and the rest of the group did not want to wait. I came out of the cutscene to a warp prompt, a dead tank, a dead dps, and the bard almost dead. Honestly they didn't deserve me fixing that.
unlock a class with Raise, and unlock the ability. just so when you pass by a dead player on the map you can swap and raise them real quick. they will love you for it, and it just happens to be the right thing to do. they are probably a sprout that died to a Fate. lift 'em up, wipe the dirt off their shoulders and move on. it takes two seconds.
This is a brilliant idea!
Exactly! I was so grateful when this happened to me at the beginning. Now with my whm I'm doing the same for other sprouts
I would agree if it wasn't for the fact that you can't literally die in this game. The msq is faceroll
@@bikerboy3k for a gamer i would agree 100%. however FF14 attracts some people to it that don't normally game and have almost no experience with games. and those people die sometimes. which is totally fine it's part of the process of learning.
@@GoodMorningHikers I disagree strongly with both points. The latter being that it's fine to die, nobody said it's not you see. The other being that it attracts people that don't game+? Based on what are you saying that. Ff is a niche franchise, literally its the opposite I would say it attracts people that are into the lore and mmo genre. But if you have some evidence to the contrary I would like to see that, really. I'm genuinely curious to see if and why it attracts non gamers.
If you see someone about to die while they solo a fate...please take a minute and help them out.
If you're a healer, especially a shield healer, you can toss a shield or heal on them without even having to sync your level. Super useful for lvl 80s walking through ARR areas.
@@JBRam2002 I actually did this, while doing some darknight stuff I saw some low levels having trouble with a fate so I swap to astro and healed them to max with a shield
@@argisus1279 you made that group feel immortal for all time
I do this all the time. Same with if I see a sprout in a fight and their HP is very low.
I'm not a fan of Bozja, but I do like how nice people are there in getting to someone who needs a rez.
Always do if I spot a solo player.
Rule: it is infact polite to stare if someone has a nice glamor. They worked hard to put it togather. Please appreciate it.
i always clap at people that have nice glamor..
Im too shy to look at them I run past them quite far away then inspect XD
@@Suzume175 I get this, but I'm also painfully slow at typing on my ps4 controller, so in either case, I'm still gonna be staring a while 😂
I love my character’s neck snap back when I un-target someone, it’s adorable
@@Suzume175 That's understandable although I feel like some people aren't actually staring at your glamor they might actually just be examining to see what you have on cuz they might want to work for themselves.
When you get rezzed, dont do anything until the healer has a chance to heal you. You get brief invincibility after a rez until you perform an action.
I didn't know this for soo long.
Good advice
Remember to give commendation to the drg in your party. He doin his best to keep you safe from the floor.
oh could you elaborate on that please? im a sprout and don’t know what he does, you are talking about dragoons right?
@@LilypadOW Long and short is dragoons tend to dive-bomb the floor with their lance for some of their attacks, they also tend to have challenges with positioning during AOEs due to their jumping animation locking them in place for precious seconds...which often leads to hilarity, they also have a back dash which when fighting on a floating platform with no guard rails results in even more hilarity.
This isn't to say they're a bad class, I main one right now, they just have some quirks have to be mindful of, or "you're going to have a bad time".
@@benjaminbierley2074 omg I see haha thanks I’ll look out for it
@@LilypadOW dragoon main here. You have no idea how many times that’s happened or I’ve seen it happen. It’s funny as hell though and I got my friend into FF XIV who happened to choose Lancer, it’s gonna be a fun experience for them
@@LilypadOW it's an old joke from ARR that a dragoon's rotation included dying so clearly you were a bad dragoon if you couldn't complete your rotation
"If you notice a party member is watching a cutscene, you better wait."
*Slams* *table*
THANK YOU!
Absolutely agree.
I can only wish that more people allow others to watch the boss movies. This was a sore-spot/paranoia for me, because it happened multiple times while I was DPS and was in my first few months of playing. I'm sure many have queued for daily roulettes, but there ARE new players, even now, and when they come out of the video to see everyone else already "in", I guarantee they'll start skipping the scenes and some are actually fun to watch (for some people, at least). :(
(This is also part of why I just go with the Trust team, for the most part, now)
@@chrismurphy4952 Me! I’m a new player and was on discord with my healer who is my mentor and we had two people from duty finder. I was in my cut scene and I heard him yelling and keys tapping so I asked what’s up...he said “they pulled the party while you’re in the cut scene” I immediately jumped out and haven’t watched watched a cut since
@@Pick3WinningTicket - Yeah, honestly it would be nice if they could add in a mechanic where you could have 1 or 2 people in a group join you and then fill it out with a Trust NPC. Then, like in your case, you could have your friend AND the cutscenes.
@@Pick3WinningTicket I'm the healer who does not give a single fuck if my team goes in while I'm in a cutscene. If you want to walk back from spawn because you could not wait a few seconds then thats on you.
@@stereotypicalweaboo I love this line of thinking. That's a power move and I'm here for it.
*Unwritten Rule:* As a Healer, 'Rescue' is used to save randoms from death and to send your closest friends to the shadow realm.
Please! Anything but the shadow realm!
As a healer, never use rescue EXCEPT to troll your friends.
Seriously, I've never seen it used well in duty finder, most people will take it as disrespect, it doesn't help people learn, and if it's a BLM you could be screwing up everything they're trying to do.
@@thevoxdeus ive used it several times in crystal tower raid whenever i see someone struggling to catch up to the pads. usually melee players. you can definitely use it in PUG groups.
i agree that you shouldnt rescue BLM though, most of the time theyre already aware of their imminent demise
I did this to my buddy and he freaked out not knowing what was going on
As a tank, I can confirm Shirk is used for the same purpose
Yeah the "let people finish cutscenes" thing was big for me. I was finishing up the ARR story and the final dungeon had a pretty massive cutscene, and when I finished it I learned that the rest of the team had aggro'd nearby enemies, brought them to my location, and then got me killed. Kinda weird that people are grinding story mission dungeons but expecting new people to skip the cutscene and "watch it on TH-cam after the dungeon", but okay.
If they want to run without sprouts they can. They can make premade party and all. So don't worry about it. If anyone queues for random and gets a sprout he has to respect it. If he doesn't want to, it is his own problem, because he has the ability to form party other ways and make premade parties as well.
In order to get agro your character has to do something. Only way I can think of is if the tank used Shirk. BTW: That's a reportable offence.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj Unless he was the healer and they all wiped.
Yeah, I've had to watch the scenes on youtube after the fact, because I allowed myself to feel pressured by impatient nerds.
My brother used to have a "friend" who lost his mind I *both* watched cutscenes AND read dialogue, he ended up joining, leaving, asking my brother if I had done the instance already, and if yes wanted a new invite 😂
I cannot stress enough the unspoken rule of letting the new players watch their cutscenes. The impatience that people can have with sprouts watching cutscenes is why we now have an MSQ Roulette where you can't skip the cutscenes. For those who don't know, MSQ Roulette actually did once allow cutscene skipping, but because nobody was patient with anyone, here we are. MSQ cutscenes we can't skip, and a Gaius speech that is drilled into our DNA at this point. The game has a great story, so let the sprouts experience it.
I usually got some show on to watch in between all those scenes lol.
@@iriebuddha Such devastation was not my intention!
theres actually an entire list of unwritten jumping dialogue
jumping in place when you havent moved yet: hurry up, i'm impatient
jumping once, turning, and jumping again- it's that way!
jumping while moving: i'm bored
jumping in place during fightt: either 'over here is safe' of 'holy crap i just barely survived'
jumping after another person jumps, usually while idle: hi!
lol omg i have played this game lots and i can confirm this is accurate
Jumping is probably the most primitive kind of communication in multiplayer games. Even if the meaning is not always clear...
I just jump a lot because I like to think my character is just a happy gal.
This is a product of people playing with a controller right? Only just returned after beta and never noticed, this is also not a thing in other MMOs I've played.
Lol I do it and I'm on keyboard ^
Unwritten rule: Don't sit in one of the 3 starting cities, discussing end game content in detail, in shout chat.
Ooooh this is a good one! Same for when new content comes out, don't use shout to talk about it when most of us haven't caught up yet.
Or avoid public chat completely, when new content comes out. That's what I do.
i actually wish this game had a bettet chat function for people to be able to talk to each other... only good chat in thios game is novice network
@@ChAiNsAwBuTcHeR linkshells?? Maybe? 😅
Same in alliance raids... Like most people in Crystal tower are not there yet.
I'm a sprout and a gladiator, and I actually missed one bossfight completely because I wanted to watch the important cutscene and one guy with the guns decided he wanted to be the tank, so the rest of the team beat the boss before I finished the cutscene :| I know it was a low level dungeon and he was probably just trying to speed through it but jesus have some respect
Uh. Was this, um, the watery pirate dungeon?
The same thing happened to me! It was one of the early dungeons - I think it had a big spider or something - I was also a sprout gladiator
I had the exact same thing, i got a level up mid cutscene because of it and then after the cutscene played, it immediately played the of the boss dying.
Im pretty sure you're talking about The Jaws of Toto Rak dungeon, because its known for its infamously long cutscenes and short boss fight so no one really waits for the sprouts to finish.
It happened with me too 😅
You can watch the cutscenes at your inn room, some of the cutscenes are decades long
I have recently started playing and I'm totally new (like a few weeks now) and notoriously terrible at MMOs, but FFXIV is the first time I've ever gotten in so deep and had such a wonderful time. I'm really enjoying your content and it is helping me so much. So I just wanted to say a big thank you for this channel and the work you put into it!
Yeah I haven't played MMO's for ages. I kept trying to get into Elder Scrolls Online but I just found it boring. I like FF14 a lot more, and I actually have to stop myself from playing it rather than making myself play, as I did in ESO. I've been playing for around a week now.
I so happy to hear you enjoy the game! Knowing the amazing twists and turns ahead makes me even more excited for your journey ahead! ^.^! I hope you continue to have a fun experience with FFXIV! 💕
Till you get to the end and you have to run the same instance day after day for gear and you have to wait 6 months for the next instance you will run day after day cuz the gear you wanted day after day farming is now worthless welcome to the reality of xiv
Looool “if you pull while some little sprout is enjoying their story cutscene...I’m gonna come after you.”
We don’t deserve you Zepla lol
When I was going through the Thousand Maws for story my group killed the boss while I was in the cutscene. I went from cutscene, to victory scene without a break. Though I think that one yanks the first couple people into the boss room.
Started in mid Heavensward, first normal raid i did was Coils, had the same group for all of the tiers and they were adamant about letting me take my time and watch the cutscenes....told me to take as many screenshots as i wanted to, I’ll never forget that group!
I started about 2 and half weeks ago and in one of the low level dungeons on the last boss, the one with a spider thing where an npc talks to you for a very long time. They killed the boss AND left before I was done lol. I was like.. well at least they didnt boot me from the group for just standing around watching movies. /shrug =/
edit @Wolfgang Hype, same one as me I believe.
Too keep this simple I don't pull the last boss of any dungeon until all four people are in the arena. The cutscene hard stops you well before crossing the purple line.
I once got killed by a boss while watching the Cutscene. However that happened.
Unwritten rule: Dragoons must always dragon sight each other, it's the dragoonbro rule. An eye for an eye.
Yeah, an if one Side of the Beam doesn't move up and down, then everybody knows, there is another dead DRG. :D
😂👍🏾
Bro code 0n another lv
na mine always goes on a healer cause my macro targets the closest person to me and they always seem to be healers LOL
Also, if you don't do some serious content like current savage or extreme, and a dancer picked you (a drg) as their dance partner... give them the first eye
Two from a newbie sprout:
For the love of all lalas, please stand in the helpful blue circle of heals. Most healers are strategic where we place them and when you run out of them we cry and murder lalas.
If you die during a fight...please take the rez. We burn swiftcast to rez you so when you don't take it....we rage. Raging healers are scary...you have been warned
Once I was doing hunts late at night and triggered a boss fate. It killed me so fast I didn't even know what it was or that I was dead; I just couldn't figure out why I couldn't target the hunt marks nearby, or why my attacks weren't working 🤦♀️
Some kind soul asked me to join their party but by that point I was so confused and panicked that I opted to go to my home aetheryte. Only then did I see in that same kind soul in the chat, asking me to accept the rez.
I'm on PS4 so I labored to apologize and thank them for trying but naturally they didn't respond and I'm still haunted by that incident. 😅
I wait until there's no AoE and the player has stabilized the tanks before I take the rez.
Ain't no worth if the healer forgets about you after hitting that swiftcast + raise combo and acts like you never existed immediately after.
Lalafell are dwarves after shaving beard?
I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing. What does blue circle of heal look like? Also what are you supposed to do when you die: lay there or go to the beginning of dungeon?
I am really tolerant to people learning to play the game and heal them without complaint. But there are 0 excuses given for not accepting a raise. Please accept the raise as soon as the box pops up. Using a swift cast and 2600 no for someone not to accept the raise for 15 seconds is aweful.
3:37 If you see Lala jumping up and down at certain spot don't be fooled, it's not a safe spot. They just wanna be at everyone's level for a moment.
Nah. Us Lalas are flexing our superior strength given our potato bodies :p
If you get Castrum as your MSQ roulette you have to spell Cid's name with the waymarks while waiting for him.
Or dicbag as I've often seen
It also doubles as fun practice for setting waymarks efficiently! Make a game out of spelling cid (or as mentioned, dicbag) before he blows up the door!
I do it every time XD shame that I don't have the cheer emotes though
oh geez I just did that for the first time and thought they ment dic
@@umbrossageos3793 hell yeah, i ALWAYS type DIC BAG
"Let the sprouts watch their cutscene."
Flashback to my first Castrum Meridium and Praetorium run in early Stormblood
back in the days u could skip that cutsceens meaning u where non stop in cutsceens if it was your first time doing it :D (thats how my first runs did go)
Agreed......but also, take me back..! Lol
Legit the first time I was In there I didn’t get a single boss fight. It was cutscene->”where did everyone go?”->cutscene->repeat til end
I remembered some of the cutscenes ended prematurely because the next one was triggered 😭
My first run of those places as a sprout 🌱 tank and still a sprout didn’t go well. I barely had an idea where the groups were watching the cutscenes. Spent almost the entire dungeon being completely lost with no group around. I never got to actually learn those dungeons. Thus today, I also never bother to queue for them either. Even though it’s chaotic fun those particular dungeon, I’ve never understood anything much about them having to hurry through my cutscenes and being lost.
Unwritten rule: Absolutely no spoilers. No exceptions. Neither in game, in a discord server (unless the channel is flagged) and in real life. Everyone should experience the story untainted.
what if someone asks to be spoiled?
@@Evilriku13 Convince them otherwise, that's it.
Wish people still took this seriously having spoiler minions everywhere
just got the motivation to play again. rando spoils the ending of my expansion in chat. no context. wasnt part of a bigger conversation. feelings. not sure which feelings but lot of em.
I've actually never seen spoilers and I have been playing for a long time
2:52 "Damnit Jim I am doctor not a triathelete" Holy hell that got me REAL good bahaha
Unspoken rule: Praetorium isn't a dungeon. It's a movie.
MSQ roulette COULD HAVE BEEN A CUTSCENE
I hate praetorium
watching grandad Cid with his skin tight shirt for half an hour made me physically ill
thanks for listening
how is that a rule
@@ahriisnotakitsune HOW IS THAT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME HUH? biiiiiiiiiiiiiiCH
@@anaran_ uh.... u ok??
As a sprout.... one thing that would be great is if I could give commendations during the cutscenes after a boss. I don't know how many times in ARR i finished a boss, there was an automatic cutscene, and then everyone was gone and I couldn't give a commendation to anyone.
there is a way to turn off the cutscenes after you already watch it. so if you are doing a dungeon that you already done, then you dont have to see the victory pose again.
@@Tonyson1469 "as a sprout" .....that feature is actually useless if it's your first time.
I always stick around for sprouts, cheering them on. :)
Yeah. Kinda dumb that you can't commend people after they leave.
As a legacy player, go watch cutscenes in the inn if you care about giving comms to ppl.
I've come from WoW to this, and my God the community is so welcoming, I've had someone helping me learn glamming and given me a ton of gear/dyes to glam with.
Every dungeon that is havnt done I say I'm new and most of the time get told the mechanics, and no one gets mad in a wipe! I've never been more excited on an MMO
Where did you meet the people to help you haha I’m new and solo
@@jwilsnach I was just hanging out in gridania!
Another wow player dipping my toes into this game. Wish me luck!
Preach! I am another WoW refugee and the community is SO much better. When I realized I didn't have to apologize for being new and not knowing fight mechanics and therefor dying my first attempt at a fight to try and lessen the verbal abuse I would receive from the rest of the party.... and instead I got nothing but explanation and support and genuine "Oop, ok, mistakes happen. We do better next time" energy. It is SO refreshing! ~A sprot bunny boy with a bow
Thank you for the cutscene thing. As a sprout I HATE feeling constantly rushed in dungeons. I always watch cutscenes and I'm not going to run by and ignore a chest in a corner because you can't be arsed to stop for two seconds. I did as many duties as possible with the NPCs so I could actually, yanno, experience the game. Once I was just in a random duty finder dungeon and I needed a few seconds to stop because my cat was bothering me, but even though I asked in chat for a minute nobody waited and I got left behind. Now I am level 65 and done all the ARR content I always wait for people who are lagging behind no matter what the reason.
Unwritten rule: When zoning on foot, always try to jump over the zone line.
I always try to do that, even on mounts. XD (assuming I can't fly in that area yet)
@@TheCanadianGamingPenguin one of the drawbacks of flying, no jumping the lines
@@Confuseddalek - Indeed!
In the case of Flying, I try to "cross the finish line" like it was a race (a flying race specifically), so I'll swoop downwards before the zone line. XD
Awww... but I try to limbo it!
you can jump with mounts if you turn on flying after double jumps. i like to jump from up high with mounts and then swoop up a little before hitting the ground
When a healer puts a bubble on the field, you stay in the bubble as long as the fight doesn't ask you to move out from it.
As a healer this is important. My bubble is put down to give the tanks and melee some extra staying power, i do this to allow me to start a dps burst, the circle is safe though and it means thats the area i want the damn fight in, dont pull it and those protected by my bubble away
everytime I place it. theres always one person who stands just outside of it
@Aquifer Aquitarius same. if they redo it after i told them i just stop healing them. im not a healing bot bitch haha
Can't see bubble with effects turned off :D
@NubityNub You can select "Show Limited" instead of "Show none" tho.
3:37 a small correction: If you're in a raid and see someone jumping up and down, they're either showing you the safe spot where you should be, or they are a Dragoon. If they're jumping off a cliff, they're definitely a Dragoon.
Dragoon main here, the boss can't hit you if you jump off the cliff, therefore it is technically a safe zone.
I'm a Healer...
1) When the Fate is over, and everyone runs leaving the healer with aggro on non FATE adds that are left over...not cool. Finish off the adds even if they aren't part of the FATE, I sometimes bind them for later so we can focus on the FATE, only to be left killing them alone.
2) Also, When you take a Rez, don't immediately join the fight (remember you can move as long as you don't do any action you are immortal for 5 seconds). Give the healer a few of those IMMORTAL seconds to get an extra heal on you so you won't get 1 shotted, otherwise you wasted their rez dying again that was better used on someone else.
3) When you have the stack marker on you (Golden arrows moving toward you from both sides), run in towards the group/tank, but when you stop, don't move again UNLESS some AOE mechanic appears on the floor, then of course you have to move out of it. Healers will stop on you and begin their long casts, and if you move again you break their casts trying to follow. Same logic on tanks doing large mob pulls, if you stop then stop. Don't stop for 2 full seconds and decide to go get another mob, the healer has already positioned themselves and began their casts. They will both break their cast and lose ground on you trying to catch back up.
If a Boss has a mechanic that takes 20 seconds to explain, it's better to explain it before the first pull then after the first wipe.
Hah, I remember I hadn't even -seen- the stack icon until Susano'o and I kept running away with and went 'holy balls how is anyone except the tank supposed to handle that?!'
Someone was kind enough to enlighten me that about how that was -supposed- to work. XD
* and yeah, parties steamrolled everything to that point so I just never saw the mechanic.
Thank you this is super helpful!
If you see someone in the same glamour as you, switch to the same idle pose and stand next to them.
Unwritten Rule: Everyone is new to the content once, so never assume everyone knows all the mechanics at any time, especially in the first week of a new Raid or Trial.
Actually it's written when you start the content "a player has never done this, you'll receive extra reward"
Them sprout tanks make me giggle sometimes watching them constantly run around the mobs lol. Or when the ranged dps thinks they're "kiting" but they're not using bind skills and they're just running around getting hit. You can't out run that auto-attack if it's close to you, let me help you keel et! Else I'm gonna watch you struggle, then die, because I'm not chasing you.
Oh my god i had that issue with someone on the day after Seat of Sacrifice released. Mind you I don't mean the EX. This dude got so pissed off at us for not knowing what we're doing in the fight on our first time running it in the story. Was sad day
I try to take the piss out of people who are the "watch the video" type the first two weeks of a raid. Usually something super sarcastic like "How *DARE* you not watch a video for something that has been out for less than 24 hours!!!!!"
If you played through the entire game without story skipping. There isnt going to be ANY mechanic youve never seen in non EX & Savage raids.
As someone who just started playing about 2 months ago:
Don't pull massively as a warrior tank on lvl ≤29 dungeons... My poor Scholar only has one healing move and one little fairy dude that embrace you when she feels like it :(
Yeah I feel that, it's why I don't play Scholar anymore and just level it up with Summoner. Scholar is fun in the first couple of dungeons cause you don't have to do a thing, 30+ dungeons is a sharp learning curve with very little practice. Astro and White Mage are still the better healers, but I'll have to go back to Scholar at some point myself, maybe after the next DLC is out since it's gonna change how the base class seems to work.
Running the raid series with a friend who is a scholar this weekend he said “here, you get the baby sitter” and gave me the fairy 😂
ya u have to take into consideration dungeon lvl, player, experience, and what level the character is in what class. I doo feel like everyone should keep an eye on what level groups certain classes struggle with
@@Kakachi07 not at max level lol even when you posted that SCH was top healer in terms of healing and DPS and fairly sure it still is =P love sch though, not as complex as astro but has an answer for literally everything and a near unmatched ability to top off a full group from a charybdis style 1HP attack to full HP in 1-2 GCDs
Sage also have issues around that level if tanks wanna mass pull. Probably worse since you can't both trigger kardia and cast healing until level 90.
Thank you for this!! I’m a sprout and felt pressured to skip cutscenes in dungeons
Yea, don't. I skipped a lot when I started for this reason and missed some content, but people are pretty chill about it these days. They can always dick around with their inventory or something. If you want to watch it, do so, the majority of people will be cool about it.
"Don't run around like a headless chicken"
This one bears repeating
Please
Please for the love of god
Just bring the mobs to me
Let me help you
Its my job
Please
Yeah, my unspoken rule as a tank is if you attack it before I can even 'pull', I'll allow you to tank until half of your health is depleted. That or you bring it to me. Most impatient players get the idea when they realize I let them 'reap what they sow' when their health gets low and I am over in a different area 'tanking'.
@@Nahellion I let them bitches die.. let them learn their lesson while I am tanning :p
The exception is if the tank dies and they target the dps who is running away from the healer lol
Your fervent, almost teary plea resonates with my soul.
When i play my first char, i was being taught by a tank player. The first rule her taught me was " when your targetted and it is not a mechanic, run to your tank."
Unspoken rule: In main scenario duty roulette, you suffer together. But be damned respectful to the nooblings.
THANK YOU!!! I've been arguing with people on reddit about how sprouts may want to learn and suffer for the fun of learning new content, and everyone's like "youre not better than 3, 7, or 23 other people in the party". I don't want advice until i ask for it, you can wipe and suffer with me >=)
@@theblackneon5396 yeah, on the fights i know mechanics of, i always ask the newer people if they want tips or whatever, if they do, ill provide, if not, i dont :)
I respect the Nooblings, they make sure you get 100 more tomes at the end.
You can just alt+tab and watch youtube or whatever. In Win10 you can just hover over the icon and watch for the cutscene to fade to black then alt+tab back in.
@@danielmantell8751 if you're on pc, i suppose...
Just started last night as a WoW refugee, thanks for all of these! Makes the transition smoother ^.^
I had someone pull the boss while I was watching the cutscene and I got locked out of the boss room. I was the tank! I felt bad until later, then I just realized everyone sees when you are watching a cut scene and those guys were just dumb jerks.
there's a new thing now that allows you to automatically teleport into boss room after 15 seconds
@@zanido9073 that was around when they posted that, idk what they were smoking lol has been around for years
Me and my friend, tank and healer sprouts, were watching the cutscene before the final dungeon boss and we saw indications that the fight had started. We let them die :)
ironic how they started to fight to speed things up because they didnt want to wait for you and made the entire thing take longer due to them being impatience
Completely normal phenomenon ^^
There was one time this happened when I was in a dungeon. Another player was jumping around and accidentally pulled the boss.... the tank was the one watching a cut scene
There's really only 1 dungeon I could sort of give them a pass on idr what the name was it was the one with the photocells.. Many a time have I seen someone pull the boss because they took 1 step too close and get sucked in
lol why are the DPS always the impatient ones
You're patient enough to play a class with 20-minute queue times but you don't have 30 seconds for a damn monster cutscene *rolleyes*
Sit afk in Limsa for 3 hours, and when somebody target you - target them back
so true it hurts
The first time I targeted someone who was AFK for like a week in Limsa they targeted me back. I logged out immediately... they were at the keyboard.... they are watching... aiiiieeeeeee
It genuinely creeped me out when this happened to me my first few hours of playing.
lmfao. yo, this cracks me up since i'm always just running around checking peoples outfit and gear and then they suddenly target me back.
@@AStarInAndromeda I always imagined it a way of them saying "Chu lookin' at, buddy?"
During Alliance raids, I think it’s just common courtesy to wait for the entire alliance (A, B, C), not just your own group to arrive before starting. I’ve been thru a few where people see that their group is ready and immediately start while the other 2 groups are still waiting.
accidentally pulling mobs as a non-tank then bringing them to the tank feels like adding dirty dishes to person who's about to finish washing them
We probably watched it happen, we know whether it was an 'oops' or if you went out of your way to grab it.
You pulling mobs as long as you bring then back to the tank doesnt increase their workload in any way whatsoever
@@khdayskh1314If the Tank -wanted- to pull wall to wall they would be doing it already. For all we know the Healer is new and the Tank is keeping pulls within their wheelhouse.
@@TheElfiestElf I'm saying that under the assumption that the tank is pulling more but forgot that sprint exists and the dps/healer happened to pull hate first
Ive literally seen tanks ragequit/ get offended when that happened. Many times
2:56 I started FFXIV this week, and I was in a dungeon (the manor thing ? somewhere around lv30) and I was watching cinematic and when I got control of my character, I saw that the tank had started the boss, realised I wasn't there, and written a good 10 lines of apology in the chat haha
Coming from other games (such as Lol), it's very nice to see a community that actually understands that new players want to watch cinematics and stuff
I was stuck in the cutscene for the bug boss when you rescue the sylph grandma and they beat the entire boss without me before the cutscene was done.
@@BulborbStare this literally happened to me today. No one said a word of apology or anything, I was really bummed.
@@KAR1492 Same here
@@BulborbStare I remember a similar thing happening without a Tank since they were watching the cutscene.
We still beat it, but the fight was close. Made me feel bad we didn't wait on them though.
Me too! When I started playing I had a similar experience with a nice tank apologizing for not waiting. I was so shocked, coming from WoW where people are a lot more likely to be cold and irritated.
"If you pull when some lil' sprout was watching their cutscene for the story and you ruined their experience ima come after you"
As a sprout I really appreciate that xD
its easier when your a tank just sit back watch that cutscene and if they die prehaps they should of thought about that before
I missed the end boss on a few of the first dungeons because i honestly thought people would get mad i was holding them up now i just say fuck it and watch them.... the transition from WoW to FF has been a weird one.
I've only had it done once so far. It was on the boss and I'm playing healer so...that was on them lol. I was super surprised though when it ended and someone had already run into the room.
i had that happening to me on the early dungeon where lahabrea summons a scorpion. cool cutscene, when it finished the fight was over.
and i was the tank.
@@BioMatic2 that one is common sometimes people are just too excited if you walk far enough that boss sucks you in so I can't exactly blame them
We had 5/8 people down in Yotsuyu's fight when I did it the first time and it felt so clutch to get LB3 off as a healer and get everyone back, with only 20% HP left to go, but sadly people all went down again anyway cause still most of the party hadn't figured out how to dodge her fans. u_u
I've been having Chrysalis come up as my daily trial roulette nearly every day for the last couple of weeks as new sprouts are filtering through. I've had to explain what a limit break was and when the DPS should use it on the tear so many times, only to have them fail to do it and need to WHM LB3 to bring everyone back to finish out the fight.
I had a clutch LB3 on Alexander Prime go off after the intermission got messed up and only half the raid was alive. We managed to beat it after that, making it feel extra powerful.
i almost miss read that as " figured out how to dodge her farts" hahaha
Honestly the lalafel one, also fits for elezens. When I see one, I always greet them. It's like "oh, I'm not the only one, nice!"
Roegadyn female... I've run into a couple males but have yet to see another female player. If I ever do she is so getting tackle hugged.
Pay attention to party chat in dungeons. Don't be the tank who ignores "Put tank stance on" spammed in chat because you forgot. Also, don't miss "BRB phone" or "BRB Door". Use Commendations. There's a challenge log entry for it. And people appreciate a "GJ"
Same goes for if you are the tank and the healer is asking you to use cooldowns or do smaller pulls. In fact just dont assume that healers are okay with big pulls unless they say so
@@baichibee Yup.. I have a DRK at 80, and currently levelling PLD, WAR and GNB at the same time.
@@BazzFreeman I am kinda omni leveling, I dont have any classes below 67, but right now am getting them all to 70. But I prefer healing to other things. DPS wanting to pull bigger than I was confortable with tanking ruined tanking for random peeps for me.
@@baichibee Can I flex? All DPS and Healers at 80, all Crafters at 80. just tanks to go for the complete set. :) Just got to 800 commendations, so just 700 to go for Mentor. I think that's the point where I turn into a complete asshat judging by the mentors I've seen in game.
@@BazzFreeman Based on how most mentors have acted to me or other sprouts, its almost like its a requirement to be an asshole to be a mentor, though I think most "mentors" are only mentors to get the extra roulette half the time, also nice flex. Im just challanging myself to only do the story if all my classes are the same level as the story. I honestly am not sure where im at for mentor status, but its not something i really want like i did in FF11
Bard Performance: Don't do it by market boards.
Bard Performance: Don't stand beside the Bard, give them a circle.
Limsa is the exception
I love listening to bard performance while doing my MB browsing personally.
Unless you're playing dancer and are dancing along to the beat.
Had one guy literally sit where I was standing while playing. Thankfully the crowd that were being nice and giving me a nice semi-circle to enjoy the tunes started endlessly poking him till he left.
Bard Performance: Don't stand next to someone playing, and start playing another song at the same time.
Unwritten rule: don't stand in the aoe expecting the healer to help you, you want heals? get out of the big glowy stuff
But "stand in fire, DPS go higher"
it should be an unwritten rule that you should understand that not everyone standing in aoes is doing it on purpose. When my lag gets bad enough sometimes the aoes wont even show up until I'm already on the floor.
Its ok if you r a BLM cuz healers must adjust =)))
My friend says this all the time: "Don't stand in the Bad!"
Honestly if the tank is doing their job right and DPS's aren't standing in AOE's the only person that needs heals should be the Tank, just the same I cast AOE Regen on everyone all the time so I can focus on keeping the tank up.
Unwritten Rule: Ask the healer how comfortable they are with larger pulls after saying hello but before first pull. 😁
*twitches* Me running after the tank frantically trying to work out what heals I have at this particular level-sync
If they are a sprout yes. Otherwise they should be able to heal you through a wall to wall and if they aren't it's time to practice.
Most Tanks I've run into while healing have died and then gone "oops, sorry." after rezzing. Sometimes it's my fault for not healing them fast enough sometimes its their fault for pulling more mobs than I can out-heal. Either way, a good tank-healer duo is pretty chill.
This might've been true back when large pulls existed, but they've been removed from all current content.
I would say instead that if you're a tank and you're not pulling both packs in dungeons, you're wasting everybody's time.
This. At least ease into it and gauge your healer. Tanking now is just pull the entire map and watch the healer scramble I guess.
"Some people are just jump happy"
DRG Main : *YES*
good one lol
DRG main here: can confirm lol
As a slightly too jump happy BLM... yes
If you get a cool mount or outfit, go to the most populated part and stay still for hours to be admired by the commoners.
As well as a new weapon or pose emote*
YES. I actually screenshot people who do this
I always tell people I'm new whenever I enter a dungeon I'm not super familiar with or if I'm learning a new class. Everyone has always been very kind.
I feel like the Main Tank rule should be: “If you and your co tank both have stance on, take it off” because more often than not there’s this weird power struggle between who wants to be Main Tank and then the boss is spinning around because its aggro is being battled over which just ruins it for the rest of the party. Especially for those who need positionals like MNK.
Along the same line, don’t provoke off of another Tank unless they’re about to die. Especially on Alliance Raids.
There is no shame in being Off-Tank and we very much need you!
To add to this, just ask in chat. Our endgame rule is 4vuln stacks and switch so for a lot of higher content you’re both going to need to know how to MT. Also learn which abilities will be good for OT as well as MT. Nascient flash for Warrior for example or cover on Paladin
@@rosiern7386 yes to this! It never hurts to ask though I have found that 99% of the time I do, the person wants to be MT bc of that same weird power trip they get from it. I have my own rules based off of which class the other is playing and how comfortable with the fight either myself or they are. But like you said, most tanks have to learn to MT for harder fights/Savage/Ultimate anyways. This is a problem I mostly encounter in Alliance raids/ non-Savage content / PF raids/EX trials.
@@rosiern7386 Oh I did NOT know this. I'm a tank main and often try not to initiate a dick-measuring contest over aggro, haha. So it's good to know tips of when I should and should not have stance on.
Yeah usually it's good to say "can I MT ?" before the fight starts (if you want to MT of course). Normally people never say no x) so don't ask "do you want to MT?" cause they won't let you
If you go in a fight with both of you having your stance on, yes remove yours. But if you want a contest with the other tank, sure keep it BUT stay at the same place as the other tank so you won't turn around the boss. It's a bit disrespectful to the other tank if you have a dick contest with him but you won't bother the others and some people enjoy having these contest to spice up their game anyway
If a healer randomly heals in a town, and you are on a healer, they are trying to heal fight you, and you must accept the challenge
What even is a heal fight?
@@Belvayne biggest heal crit wins
This one YES! Heal fight every healer
Healer fights are legendary, tho I had heard it was whoever quits first, like a staring contest, but that was from a different mmo
This is what lead to the calamity 🤣 healers just trying to out heal eachother
If someone lali ho’s at you and you have lali ho you MUST lali ho back.
what if you're a sprout in before ShB? Do you bow? Greeting?
@@lalauniversalis9999 bowing, waving, or honestly any happy emote is accepted
If you don't Lali-ho back, you are gunna get La-HEE'd.
@@lalauniversalis9999 When you play Lala, if in doubt:
/joy
\o/
I made a greet macro specifically for saying hi and it uses o/ and the lali-ho emote and for the past week no one has lali-ho'd back, even in fate grinds. It breaks my heart
In the 'don't leave after you get mount' point. The method I tend to go with if it's a quick fight is '5 runs then break, leave if you want, stay if you want. Then repeat'. As I feel if people get bored, get the mount, or just want food, they have only committed to 5 runs, and everyone understands there is no pressure to stay after the 5 if they don't want to.
Unless I missed it, this is missing the biggest one.
Don't be rude to others about their DPS etc. Most of the time it is going to be enough to get by and FFXIV does not really appreciate people complaining about numbers. From what I can understand you can get in trouble for DPS meters.
For the don't pull if you are not the tank and respect the cutscenes, I feel that in my bones. I wanted to play through the story again before Endwalker and was playing a tank. One dungeon the DPS ran ahead and pulled everything, including the boss when I was in the cutscene. If the healer wasnt also in there with him I 100% would have left him to die.
You can get banned for using ANY mods (hence 1:48). The reason why DPS meters are notable is because in other games the abuse of them perpetuates hostility. It's the primary reason why mods are on a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
I just started having to play with other people in dungeons and have no idea what I'm doing. What is DPS and Pulling? Also I'm on PS4 and it's like impossible to use chat and play the game at the same time so I always feel really bad ignoring everyone and not being able to tell them I'm an idiot noob, lol. How do you know if someone is watching a scene?
@@dallisgilbert8059 First off, DPS stands for Damage Per Second (it's also used as shorthand for primary damage dealers) and is a metric of performance. The more DPS, the faster the enemy dies.
Second, Pulling is a term used to describe the act of starting an encounter, it's also used to draw enemies into a controlled location to safely kill them.
Finally, If someone is watching a cutscene in your party then in the party window (with their health bars and such) It will say "Watching Scene" instead of their character name.
Also, you might want to set up a macro with the line "/p I'm on console and new to the game, please forgive any mistakes I make" . That way you have a statement ready on your crossbar. You might even get some tips on how to handle it better.
@@dallisgilbert8059 DPS stands for damage per second but is often used to refer to classes/jobs whose primary job is doing damage, not healing or tanking (tanking is holding the enemies focus so they got you).
Pulling refers to aggroing or gaining the enemies attention initially. Basically the first attack or movement into their area that draws their attention.
People typically understand that PS4 can't talk easier, but I think there are chat shortcuts and you can set up a macro to say something as well. I would recommend googling that part though.
If someone is watching a cutscenes, their name in the party will be Watching Cutscene and you will see a little film symbol next to their name above their head.
@@lordlundar our term for the meter idiots in WoW is "Meter Maids", They solely swim on numbers and rarely understand how fight mechanics impact those numbers.
S Rank hunts: Don't pull it if you didn't spawn it. And give people time to get there.
A yes that is a golden rule in all S hunts
"Tuesday's rank A runs are fast.
Don't complain if you can't keep up"
I've learn this the hard way.
Related: When you happen to spot a B-Rank in the open world, take a few seconds to shout out a position report: Someone's probably looking for it.
Only fisher main can bull the mob
Please come to Primal DC since we have notorious early pullers
As a new player, I appreciate this.
Hope you're enjoying your journey so far! ❤
I'm a new player as well
Same here. I just started playing last week. I am loving it so far but this game is kind of overwhelming there is so much to it. So much more than any MMO I have ever played. I have been binging on videos like this and class guides to try to not embarrass myself or annoy others.
New player comment section!!
Welcome :)
tank waiting for the healer seems to be a forgotten rule on my side....I can't count the number of times I had to panic raise the tank upon arrival somewhere, sprinting all the way there because they went too fast and pulled too much.... please tanks, heed this rule.
I queued for Leviathan EX for the first time last week, through the duty finder
EVERYONE was a sprout and had never done it before lol, but we still managed to do it and honestly it was a great moment
Exactly, unsynced is just not fun. It's honestly bad for the game's health that the go to seems to be "free loot" rather than fun and challenging content.
Also, I've cleared all arr ex trials except Shiva and never had one fail to complete within the hour. Not even Moggle. All in DF. People are just lazy and don't want to put in the effort.
@@crazydude5825 Last week I helped some friends get the ex mounts unsynced and it was just boring...
I failed my first Ramuh ex because there was some ninja who who just wanted to run everywhere and didn't want to listen to what we had to say
Yes please let our lil sprouts watch their cutscenes they deserve the full story
I got left behind watching the story it was big sad :*(
The party ran off while I was watching my cutscene. I got lost and no one would even respond to requests for help to catch up with the party. So, I ended up leaving the party, and hopped in queue again. Another 30 minute wait and got into a new party. They did nothing but gripe and complain because I wanted watched the cutscenes, even though at least they didn't leave me stranded. After that I left the game. I don't need that kind of crap in a game. Its a real shame as I really enjoyed FFXIV but I won't be going back again.
had a guy aggro all the bosses while i was watching the cutscene for the first time, (mind i was the tank)... :(
@Revolutionary_Anomaly Speedrun is doing content as fast as possible
This is one reason I love healing. If a sprout has a cutscenes and the tank pulls, I just stay with the sprout. Good luck with that boss fight..
Another unwritten rule: You can't enter The Rak'tika Greatwood without singing lahee!
This tbh
@@MIGAS32000 1000% lahee
LAHEE!
LahEE We don't have Ebola!
Lehee we now have Corona
I'm about to start this game off of a friend's suggestion and I'm big on story so yeah, I appreciate you supporting the newbs who want to enjoy the story!
My favorite part of this community is how helpful everyone seems to be. It really does keep the community good. Coming from other MMO's to FFXIV was... Wild. Me and my friend have recieved so much help in our journey, and because of that, we stop to help others that look like they need it.
Magic classes having a hard time killing bosses? Take aggro for them, idle, and let them kill at their own pace.
Someone struggling in a fate? Level sync and help.
Sprout dead in an alliance raid standing in a bad spot? Use rescue on them and pull them to safety.
It's just so refreshing having such a kind and caring community surrounding an MMO. It really teaches new players to do the same, and keep the place so lovely.
Ya'll are babes. Ily all.
If you die to a mechanic you can just say "server tick" and you are absolved of any guilt.
How often i that Read haha
Can confirm
"My brother was playing."
Telling the party that your cat attacked your controller/walked over your keyboard also works! (Yes, those both actually happened to me and yes both times nearly caused wipes)
"I'm sorry, I know I suck"
Here's one (I know it's rare): Don't instantly rage on people for making one mistake, regardless of their experience. Sprout or mentor, everyone makes mistakes and you have no idea what their status is atm in regards to IRL stuff or just having forgotten mechanics because it's been so long.
Yh this is a good one, I have pernicious anaemia, which affects my concentration, its rare it’ll effect how I play but when tanking if I accidentally run I’ve probably knocked autorun, I have long fingers so keyboards are cramped for me, and I knock the wrong key occasionally when my brain isn’t 100% same when I use stun instead of an aoe lol
When you do a Dungeon as a Mentor you last did 8 years ago but dont remember mecanics, then get instant rage :c
THIS! I have panic attacks when I f up. Last thing I need is someone harping on me when I miss a mechanic haha.
if I get rage for stuff I know isn't justified, I see it as not my problem.
Yea I never Tanked before thank god someone helped me out on my first dungeon yesterday.
you can absolutely use duty roulette for your extreme dungeons, you will be teaching a lot of sprouts what to do and the sprouts will then teach others when their time comes. everything else, i agree
That's what for the roulette is for. If you don't want to teach sprouts, you make premade party. If you join PUG you should respect that. Often when joining Alliance Raids and Extremes people just type right away to tell them important pointers as they are new and everything is going great.
I've had multiple times in low-level trials where I finish the cutscene, load in, and find the boss is already at 30% health. One time I asked if the other players waited for my cutscene, and they said yes they did, but in the 10 seconds it took me to load the fight, they machine-gunned the boss down to near death.
If a Bard is playing music. No matter what they play you clap or cheer at the end.
It matters not their skill, you clap/cheer. No. Exceptions.
yep....I even join with another player (a lalafel) doing the havest dance for a bard playing a very harvest like medieval music
.....obviously I was in Limsa
@@dustindiaz9493 Of course it was in Limsa.
Also dont play over a bard who is playing or dog whistle....ask politely and at the end of their song they will reply....maybe....only if u clap owo
@@skyknight1748 There's a dog whistle emote?
Always give a commendation, make someone feel good about themselves.
Oh I can think of many runs where no one deserved one...
The first job I played is dragoon so now everytime I see a dragoon I give them the commendation
I usually try and hand them out to people who stood out. That Dragoon kept Dragon Eye up on another player consistently? Commendation. That dude made a comment that made me smile? Commendation. That healer who saved my ass with rescue? I wish I could give you more than one commendation.
@@sleepysera i do give them to sprouts that kept dying as a "it's Ok" sign ^^
I often give them to DPS players, tanks and healers have them so easily even when they were really bad, it's justice to give them to good DPS
Community is super helpful and chill
You DC? (crash etc) They wait for you to come back
You mess up? They explain what you should do and you try again, even if it takes a few tries to get it right
You arrive at the last fight of the raid? They make sure everyone is ready before going in
You need tips for a new dungeon? Just ask and they'll tell you
It just makes everything so much more ENJOYABLE, you really play this game to relax and have a good time
I picked up this game a month ago and have played healers in games before, so I went with WHM. I'm doing my best but I felt so much better when you said the bit with "I'm a doctor, not a triathlete." Some tanks just pay no attention to how the healer is doing and pull way too far ahead, even if you're new to the dungeon and tell them to slow down a bit. Don't yell at me if you've gone around 6 corners and I'm already running to keep up! I can't see through walls and I can't rez you if the mobs are now all on top of me!
"Some people are just jump-happy" I've played video games too long not to randomly jump if i have the ability to. If there's nothing else to do while walking down a corridor, im jumping.
Anyone who ever played Morrowind or Oblivion cannot stop jumping whenever they're playing something that gives them the option. :P
@@dosbilliam that's so true 😂
Loved valheim for this. It increases your jumping skills 😂
In older SWTOR, sometimes where you were standing was different on client/server side, jumping forced server refresh. This mainly happend to people with high latencies or packet loss (i was one of them, jumping was mandatory for me to evade aoes).
Fact: jumping increases your movement speed by 0.0000001%. WORTH!
Oh gosh I never knew that emotes spammed in chat. People are probably tired of me randomly dancing in public
You CAN click a box at the bottom of the emote window to make them not appear in chat if you want!
Hopefully many people will now turn that off, I confess I did not know either.
I kinda thought only I could see that message. I'm so embarrassed... sometimes i like to emote to myself to see my character's glams or whatever. people must think i'm weird.
Yeah I learned the hard way. I went to jail for it and got a slap on the wrist. My emotes are off unless I need them for something lol
@@frogpickle7212 You can also do this on a per-emote basis with macros and the "motion" flag. For example, a macro that says, "/cheer motion" will cause you to do the animation without putting anything in the chat log.
If someone helps you complete a difficult quest objective, it's polite to stay and assist them in return.
Also, if someone stops to help you while you're dying, that's not an excuse to run away and leave your problems with them. Stop and help them who are helping you.
It's a common rule to always do a respectful emote in those cases. Same when you're doing a fate with another person
My first time through praetorium I missed a whole cutscene bc no one told me to click the podium for the magitek armor. By the time I went back I got tele'd to the next area.
I think a lot of people experienced that one. They've fixed it now, though.
If you own the manderville and someone is performing it, you join.
if someone is doing a special dance emote, you most join them with the same emote. Try to time them together.
Dawg the manderville dancers have been taking over the Ul’Dah Aetheryte entrance lately!
@@GoldenMushroom64 The Midgardsormr Ul'dah aetheryte, right?
@@GoldenMushroom64 Make Uldah, Manderville
@@TigerheartFire that’s the one. It’s hilarious
fun fact: the jp community use the party finder to learn a fight, and the df to clear/farm a fight.
Love that!
That method actually makes more sense.
Also, probably helps that they use macros for party placement / strats so it's quicker to find out what they need to do, as opposed to requiring a description in a PF listing.
@@sneakytrip6594 I mean, whether it's spelled out in PF or macro'd in chat, some people just ain't gonna read XD
(also, PF description is efficient in that it can weed people out before they even join the party, it they read it.)
NA needs to do this tbh
That's true for extreme and unreal, but there still a lot of party for savages in pf, just because you can set up minimum ilvl
As someone who plays a lalafell, every single time I'm in a dungeon or a trial with one it's like a telepathic agreement that we're sticking close together. At first I thought maybe that was just a DPS thing but I only really ever noticed other lalafell players bother to keep pace with me like that LOL
I once ended up in a random dungeon group with 3 other lalas, the most common things said in the chat during said run were "master race" and "potato power".
It's really important to let the tank pull! I had it in some occasions that some healer said that I can _"pull more if I want"_ . I of course then tried to pull more, but then pulled lesser because I recognized I take too much damage! That's especially when you don't have high tier gear already. I think It's because they did like 10 dungeons in a row, and always had high tier skilled players in the group so that it seems I pull too less enemies. But a tank will always try out how much he can handle, get a feeling how experienced the healer is and so on.
EDIT: Oh yeah and if you see that the Tank don't have his Tank-stance activated..well...remind that old fart! ^^ It magically turns off somehow....no one knows why....🤪
I had one healer who kept running off ahead to aggro everything as if he was helping me out. Really it was just stressful because now everything was running around instead of waiting for me! And I wasn't pulling more myself because they were off everywhere not healing me much, so I didn't trust them to keep me alive if I kept pulling.
People need to let tanks do their job, even if they're new or slower tanks!
When running the Heroes Gauntlet dungeon, you must pet the Amaro. He's a good boy.
I pat him every time. It is MANDATORY and as a DPS main I am willing to lose uptime for it lol.
I have /toast on a hotbar so I can toast him as I run. This is the way.
@@officialgritty4740 uptime on trash pulls??
Hugging Giott is more important there.
@@Darksin757Production DPS brain. Must get big number.
if someone pulls the boss while a party member is still in a cutscene i will wait outside for that player to finish watching, and considering i'm a healer main... not my fault if they die for their impatience
I'm the new baby sprout healer people pull thru the cutscenes on. Joke is doubly on them.
I have let many a tank die for impatience.
@@pachpaints5356 my spite for those impatient pulls comes from being forced to skip a cutscene as a sprout.. i was a healer too back then and still too nice to let them die
lol
Letting them die is the only way to teach them.
“Let the tank pull”
I wish more people would follow this
When I tank I get the occasional dps or healer who will run ahead of me despite me pulling wall to wall and it just irks me since I have to stop for a moment to deal with that bs
Being a tank main tbh I never cared who pulls what I just take Aggro lmfao. But I don’t do slow pulls fuck all that
I'll be honest.... I play bard and this is my first mmo so I didn't know dungeon....err... etiquette? So I ran ahead in my first few dungeons not realizing... my dumbass isn't supposed to 😂 my friend saw me do this and was like wtf are you doing???? And promptly put me back in place hahaha. So now I just make everyone run faster and stay as a shadow to tank.
As a tank main and a former dps main, I understand that sometimes you are just not paying attention and auto-run into the fray. Accidents happen, and I can generally rush into it and slap 'em with an aoe to get the aggro, but when they run off in a panic, it def poses a challenge to myself and the healer. I'll give them a heads up and tell them to take it to me.
But if a dps runs *ahead* when I have already done a pull and parked my ass in my selected hoard, they are on their own. You chose death. Now you can eat the floor and think about what you did.
Unwritten Rule: When doing raids where the three parties are required in different areas that lock off, wait until people are in the right places. I had this issue in the first crystal tower raid. Group A just charged ahead when C where lagging behind a bit. The area got locked, and the teleport in function threw them into the same area as the A group. That was a wipe and a half. xD
Rule: You must exaggerate the mechanics of cape westwind to cause new players to panic if there are new players in the party.
i did this to 2 IRL friends with whom i was also in VC with. their reaction was priceless ^^
I didn't get the proper treatment so I didn't really get to enjoy the meme that is Cape Westwind. Everyone just showed up killed it and it turned into just a boring speed bump in the story.
I knew it! I had the feeling that was kind of a meme since that happened the first time I did that duty.
I was laughing after we rushed it in less than a minute hahah!
I say WORLD FIRST after every clear
@@Harkmagic cape westwint ffxiv that was sad I did stream it , but I Was unable to watch the whole catching and read it out loud for my is for followers
If you encounter a fellow Paladin in the wild and they do wings, you must respond with wings. This is the way. It is the Paladin’s code.
Also known as the Paladin Handshake, yes!
Every time! :D
Duly noted!
This is the way
Wings????!!
That knife hand at 2:32 lol, I subbed just because of that. Being an army guy myself i love seeing a fantastic use of the knife hand. Even got the I DONT CARE part perfectly timed lol.
Im trying to learn EVERYTHING about FFXIV that I can, and your videos have been ultra helpful❤
When you get Cape Westwind for trial roulette, you must either:
A. Immediately say gg before it's even pulled
B. If there is a sprout, hype up super difficult mechanics that don't exist
Westwind will always be so hilarious for me XD
post the macro for e8s or something for added credibility
I do this every single time. My favorite was when I told a sprout Tank to use LB3 at the beginning and they were so confused when we killed the dude in like 2 seconds XD
I have a set of waymarkers and usually end up calling SW - W float as soon as we load in. That usually gets people ready to meme while the sprout is watching the cutscene.
I did have it backfire once were the sprout was just terrified and apologized for being new before even starting to cast. I felt so bad for them that I stayed until they were done with the cutscene to explain the meme and told them they did great.
this happened my first time on that fight. my sister said she wanted to do it with me and started to hype how hard it was. Scared me sooo much, and the fight started and i targeted him and he died.
here's one: as a healer, don't be petty and refuse to heal your tank when they fuck up, especially if you're running a low-level duty. that serves no purpose other than making your tank feel bad and getting the party killed lol
plus healing in low level duties you usually dont need to, do it anyway, dps and heal. You can be a heal bot and enjoy the ride
Right? When someone else fails to perform and it's a problem, making yourself an even bigger problem is an awfully strange kind of one-upsmanship.
@@Corrodias yeah, one-up that tank by showing him how a true healer handles things. Keep everyone alive and throw some damage in there for good measure. When I tank and I know I screwed up but, in the end I didn't die, that healer is def getting a comm.
Flip side of this; If your healer notices you aren't using cool downs, or aren't using them until you are very low hp, or don't understand how reprisal and arms length work, listen (as long as they are offering respectful advice) instead of saying not using cool downs is your "play style." I still heal these tanks because I want to finish the dungeon, but they are blacklisted immediately afterwards. Having to be a heal bot in a dungeon makes the game not fun for most competent healers, especially considering a tank can use cool downs effectively without losing anything at all. But a healer loses so much by having to do nothing but heal bot. This game is not wow and it shouldn't be played like it is. There's also this belief that healers are either damage healers or heal only healers and that is simply not true. Competent healers can do both and they lose nothing as long as they follow their abcs (always be casting) and keep their mana regen abilities on cool down.
@@VivieneValkyrie As a healer main, though its Astro and they regen mana different, ie use card get mp, I save my lucid dreaming for emergencies a lot more. Though I pop cards like they are air
Every time I take a break from this game, your videos always draw me back into it. You have such an endearing screen presence; so cheerful, lighthearted, funny, and still very informative. Love your content!
Yesterday I was doing a lvl 60 dungeon, new to me, and they started the last boss while I was watching the cutscene. Whole party wiped. I didn’t even feel bad. Is it bad that I actually felt kind of good that it happened as a result of their impatience. 🤷🏼♂️
Nope, totally justifiable. If I see someone watching a cutscene I wait outside and let the other idiots rush in and die. :D
I always ask myself that if they are in such a rush then why queue up for a dungeon?
Here's one - if your tank is brand new, and you are a healer....please don't run ahead and start pulling for the tank. If they're going slow, it's because they are brand new and don't want to be the reason the entiry party wipes.
Source: me, crying as my healer runs ahead in The Wanderer's Palace while I try and fail to catch up
This is right. Most tanks know, what they can handle and there is everytime a reason, why the don't do bigpulls. Especially WHMs have to much trust in theier "Holy+Benediction Rotation".
Yeah, I actually have a macro (two, actually) for when I tank.
1 - I am a relatively new tank
2 - I have not done this dungeon before or frequently enough to go crazy with it
That's been great and everyone DOES say, "No problem, take your time". :-)
As far as I'm concerned, the tank sets the pace. I've let the satellite puller get to low health before pulling agro off before. For some reason they get pissy after that.
Doesn't matter if the tank's new. As the healer, and especially as the DPS, it is not your responsibility to know what the tank "can" or "can't" handle. All it does is screw up the rhythm of the pulls and make the whole run even slower. Source: a vet player playing on a new alt character, knowing I couldn't pull wall-to-wall in Tam-Tara because said alt had exactly one defensive cooldown available and our DPS players had limited AoE skills, and having to deal with a healer with this particular failing.
Even though I'm not a new player, been playing since 2013, I am new to tanking and I was running Dohn Mheg last year, I pulled one pack at a time because I was still levelling up my pala and could really only handle one pack at a time. The healer then went and pulled the other pack (mentor btw), then as I expected...we died, I called him an idiot and explained why I was pulling one pack at a time. I got no response, he continued to pull other packs, I got sick of it and left the dungeon. He actually reported me for abuse.
If you are the only non-Lalafell player in a dungeon/alliance you ARE legally the babysitter and must take responsibility for our actions.
One of my favorite screenshots is Female Elezen me standing in the middle of my lovely three Lalafell dungeon children. I would die for them in a heartbeat.
I had this happen once as a max height female Roegadyn. I felt like a kindergarten teacher.
I have many lala friends. As a lala myself I will purposely que with 2 other lala in hopes the rando is someone tall so I can call them mom/dad the whole dungeon. Best one so far was a cat boy who ended up in aurum veil with us. He was a great sport
Consume the tall one
I do remember being Miqo'te in a dungeon with three Lala newbies. I really felt like a kindergarten teacher, talking them through the dungeon (it was TamTara Deepcroft). It was fun, though, and they were great players. :)
Man this sounds like old school MMOs or the start of Aion or Vanilla WoW. Players actually enjoying the world, sometimes staying weeks on lvl 30 or so
I have been playing it a few days now, level twenty two. The only things that get even a little annoying are the map and the darkness of night lol. I mean, really, I have never played a game so relaxed and enjoyable without frustration before. Now if I can just figure out how to get a mount lol
I never really understood why MMO players were so angry all the time. It's like they treat it like it's their job.