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The concept of China copying the troops of others is pretty cool since it was already done economic wise. I'm also happy that they introduced the little suicide bombers bc that was the first idea I had thinking about China's military. Right now China is very strong and annoying and needs to see some nerfs , but when balanced it will be a nice fraction. Btw: cool video ;)
Thanks a lot man. Yeah, of course no nation has come out that was perfectly balanced from the start. But as You say. Once it´s a bit more balanced it will be a really interesting addition to the game and make eastern asia more viable. So far there´s only india and that´s not always a great pick due to their lack of any artillery and their mobile tanks can easily be countered by anti-tank hedgehogs. Worked really for hard for this video. With footage and everything of editing and writing a text this was easily 10 hours or more.
China´s heavy units are negligible. And since you just have to destroy one building and it will take China forever to get a new army of heavy tanks and artillery I wouldn´t focus too much on it anyway.
Those chinese mounted horsemen can literally destroy berthas easy. And those chinese suicide soldiers proves to us that your tanks needs infantry support.
Yeah, maybe armored flamethrowers could stop them but Germany in IR1 is helpless against that. Needs teammates to deal with them, like turkish snipers.
I Select them all then press CTRL+7 (I put them on 7, if you press CTRL+4 it will be set to 4 - this works with all numbers from 1-0 above the letters) Usually I have my town hall on 1, a worker squad on 2 my barracks, shooting ranges, factories etc on 3, 4-6 is for army and then 7 is for houses with china, eastern europe and russia or any defensive units that I leave in my base
@@SolomonRaz another question: i have 9900 Tech Points and want to buy China or Turkey (i already have russia and france) but i dont Know what country would fit better to me, they are both so nice :O
@@carloinator1833 Turkey is overall a great support. To make china work you have to be able to advance really fast and then be useful in earl IR. In the late game (after 50 minutes) you will not be much help to your team usually as china. Turkey only becomes more useful as the game proceeds and is easier to make work.
@@SolomonRaz No, but that is beside the point! :D Thanks but give it to someone else, please. I commented on the video not because I wanted to win a country in WS, but because it is fun to do so.
I really enjoy playing it. Especially the Mounted Guardsmen are awesome! Late game when the enemies come up with anti-infantry units China´s potential will fall off though.
Can you do a video on how to counter a good China player? Obviously some sort of AoE, but I find mortars slow and fairly inefficient and Germany has flamethrowers but the nation is pretty bad overall. Russian with flamethrower tanks? The china militia man is pretty fast a good up close and can take down regular tanks.
lol germany is bad overall? :D okay... No, Germany is pretty strong. Armored Flamethrowers are the ultimate counter to china. If You have 20-50 armored flamethrowers then china is pretty much useless. Pretty bad overall, the things I have to read here :D Germany has some disadvantages. It´s very expensive and slow to get going but once you´re 60 minutes into the game it has the strongest potential in the game. Other than that, you need to visit china before they´re china. Sending a few sipakhs into their base to kill workers is very important if your scout spots some East Asian player with stables. Then You can go Turkey and set up snipers. I mean you don´t even need germany, if you just spam MG-Towers china is already almost useless. But yeah. British LMGs are also pretty good because of their higher range compared to SMGs they can take out enemy militiamen/cavalry from afar. Number one rule if you play against china, don´t give up. They can destroy your economy for a while but eventually you can regenerate as they don´t really have anything to destroy your town hall (except for hand cannoneers from medieval or Trench-Mortars in IR1 and of course RPGs in IR2. Their factory is incredibly slow so armored units of china are rarely ever a threat.
china seems a bit overpowered. they can get so many troops so quickly and they do quite a lot of damage ... but maybe im just bad at the game since im new XD (my discord tag is mrdardy024#4846)
China definitely is very powerful if you let them rush to IR. However during Bronze/Iron Age for example asia is rather weak. So arguably if you rush them with light knights in time then You can either destroy them or ruin their economy so that they will never have that early IR1 power spike. The first punch from China is the hardest, but as you start spamming anti-infantry units they become weaker and weaker. The foreign Supply Center is an easy target for Bombers and Artillery and without that the Militiamen and Soldiers will be sitting ducks to Death Scythes, Trench-Mortars etc. I don´t say China is balanced right now but there are typically two steps necessary when they introduce a new nation: 1. The Developers need to find the right balance for the mechanics and units that they wanted to implement. 2. The Community needs to learn how to counter the new nation´s Tactics and units. If every nation was just a reskin of all the things we already have then the game wouldn´t be as interesting, in my opinion. I gladly accept some temporary imbalance in the game in order to have an awesome game on release day. It´s early access after all, although even League of Legends still struggles with balancing new heroes and even very old ones... balancing in games becomes ever more difficult the more variety you implement. Oh how did this essay end up here? Sorry for the long read.
@@SolomonRaz nah this was really informative, dont worry about it. and i agree with you on your point that games need variety. of course its always going to be a struggle for those who dont pay in games haha but what can you do, they need the money and i personally like a challenge. :D
@@dardanleci2721 Well if You haven´t seen my light knight video yet... now with everybody going east asia is the best time for an early light knight rush that will crush them. Struggle without paying? Well, there´s a bit of a grind and yes, temporary limitation to those who buy the imperial edition for example. But I wouldn´t call it struggle, while many games end before anybody even reaches IR.
i think if you are frontline you should go china but if you arent frontline you should take russia ,great britain or turkey cause china isnt that good in industrial no aircraft no mine no university
Well, China backline with Mounted Guardsmen spam is crazy strong. But it depends on whether the enemies can easily wall themselves off or the map is open and you can sneak in with your mounted guardsmen left, right and center. China is very versatile in the first 45 minutes and then becomes very weak, just a meat-shield spamming nation with loads of infantry. But they still have SMGs and RPGs so they´re not terrible even in late game. Just nowhere near as powerful as in IR1, that´s their time to shine. If You go China frontline and your teammates don´t help you then you´re lost. Better Turkey in that case, I think. Backline China is easy and strong, don´t see your point of not taking china in backline, that´s actually where they´re strongest in team-games, because the can make stables with horse archers to basically defend your whole team from getting light knight rushed.
@@thegamer-nn1pr For new players I recommend either Russia or Turkey. For Russia You can watch my Light Knight Strategy and see whether You like it or not. For turkey I have a video aswell and I just uploaded a new one that shows synergy between china and turkey with my friend westspirit. If You have questions you can always ask me in the comments :)
Same. I cannot wait for its release. And for when all the content is out. Africa and Native American Tribes... oh boy, we´re in for a ride. I feel like this game could single-handedly take over the RTS genre.
China seems to be weak to me without naval or aviation units and only tanks from the foreign center... I will not fancy spamming infantry at all. It will be a good country to those who know how to use it🙂 #6268
Well, its main strength is the spam of infantry of course. I think the foreign supply center is more like a last resort in case your teammates cannot break through by themselves. I feel like just spamming Barracks is already a really great strategy with China. Soldiers, SMGs (to save metal) and RPGs to kill players. I even used trench-mortars with them after a long time of not even touching them. Especially when there is little to no metal around China can be really useful for the team.
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The concept of China copying the troops of others is pretty cool since it was already done economic wise. I'm also happy that they introduced the little suicide bombers bc that was the first idea I had thinking about China's military. Right now China is very strong and annoying and needs to see some nerfs , but when balanced it will be a nice fraction. Btw: cool video ;)
Thanks a lot man.
Yeah, of course no nation has come out that was perfectly balanced from the start. But as You say. Once it´s a bit more balanced it will be a really interesting addition to the game and make eastern asia more viable. So far there´s only india and that´s not always a great pick due to their lack of any artillery and their mobile tanks can easily be countered by anti-tank hedgehogs. Worked really for hard for this video. With footage and everything of editing and writing a text this was easily 10 hours or more.
On a recent game i had almost everyone playing china (3 allies, 2 ennemies and 1 ennemy died in late east asia)
everytime there is a new country, everybody wants to play it and try hard just to play it. Me too :D
I honestly think that China is underpowered because it takes a while before China is able to get heavy units.
China´s heavy units are negligible. And since you just have to destroy one building and it will take China forever to get a new army of heavy tanks and artillery I wouldn´t focus too much on it anyway.
@@SolomonRaz true
Nice Video :) I like the Background music
Oh thanks! It´s just some youtube music from the creator studio. It´s called Arc of the Sun in case you want to listen to it.
Fun to play with this guy!! Hope to get lucky with a faction to play!
Congrats you win china, gimme your discord tag here please.
@@SolomonRaz Sure thing! Can't wait to finally use a faction!! Hahaha fenixtorador#4794
Those chinese mounted horsemen can literally destroy berthas easy. And those chinese suicide soldiers proves to us that your tanks needs infantry support.
Yeah, maybe armored flamethrowers could stop them but Germany in IR1 is helpless against that. Needs teammates to deal with them, like turkish snipers.
How can you set all you houses to one hotkey? Nice Video keep it up :)
I Select them all then press CTRL+7 (I put them on 7, if you press CTRL+4 it will be set to 4 - this works with all numbers from 1-0 above the letters) Usually I have my town hall on 1, a worker squad on 2 my barracks, shooting ranges, factories etc on 3, 4-6 is for army and then 7 is for houses with china, eastern europe and russia or any defensive units that I leave in my base
@@SolomonRaz lol thanks for the fast answer!
@@carloinator1833 sure man! Good luck and enjoy the game ;-)
@@SolomonRaz another question: i have 9900 Tech Points and want to buy China or Turkey (i already have russia and france) but i dont Know what country would fit better to me, they are both so nice :O
@@carloinator1833 Turkey is overall a great support. To make china work you have to be able to advance really fast and then be useful in earl IR. In the late game (after 50 minutes) you will not be much help to your team usually as china. Turkey only becomes more useful as the game proceeds and is easier to make work.
Love the supply centre sorta like in AOE3
Haven´t played that one yet. Do all factions in AoE3 have it?
@@SolomonRazFrom what I remember the Asian nations have a consulate where they can get foreign expeditions
@@jeremyfitzgerald370 Sounds interesting. I bought the AoE DE bundle, so I should probably try it out sometimes. Thanks for the tip! :)
@@SolomonRaz All good, hope you enjoy it
China Numba Wan! Nah, kidding. The OG Communist state is Numba Wan... USSR! *soviet anthem starts and portraits of Marx, Lenin and Stalin appear*
LOL :D
OG Communist
Congrats you win gimme your discord tag pls
@@SolomonRaz What? Ha-ha... I wasn't participating in anything. Please, give it someone else, who would need it more, whatever that is.
Thanks!
@@LitlBlackDragonNinja Well it was a code for china. Do You have China yet?
@@SolomonRaz No, but that is beside the point! :D
Thanks but give it to someone else, please. I commented on the video not because I wanted to win a country in WS, but because it is fun to do so.
I only make 10 barracks, and I make 150 houses
They are so cheap to make, yeah.
Can never have too many houses with china.
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Dude this country is awesome!
I really enjoy playing it. Especially the Mounted Guardsmen are awesome! Late game when the enemies come up with anti-infantry units China´s potential will fall off though.
Only in war selection XD
Can you do a video on how to counter a good China player? Obviously some sort of AoE, but I find mortars slow and fairly inefficient and Germany has flamethrowers but the nation is pretty bad overall. Russian with flamethrower tanks? The china militia man is pretty fast a good up close and can take down regular tanks.
lol germany is bad overall? :D okay...
No, Germany is pretty strong. Armored Flamethrowers are the ultimate counter to china. If You have 20-50 armored flamethrowers then china is pretty much useless. Pretty bad overall, the things I have to read here :D Germany has some disadvantages. It´s very expensive and slow to get going but once you´re 60 minutes into the game it has the strongest potential in the game. Other than that, you need to visit china before they´re china. Sending a few sipakhs into their base to kill workers is very important if your scout spots some East Asian player with stables. Then You can go Turkey and set up snipers. I mean you don´t even need germany, if you just spam MG-Towers china is already almost useless. But yeah. British LMGs are also pretty good because of their higher range compared to SMGs they can take out enemy militiamen/cavalry from afar. Number one rule if you play against china, don´t give up. They can destroy your economy for a while but eventually you can regenerate as they don´t really have anything to destroy your town hall (except for hand cannoneers from medieval or Trench-Mortars in IR1 and of course RPGs in IR2. Their factory is incredibly slow so armored units of china are rarely ever a threat.
i think i made 5 ppl uninstall the game yesterday because of the mounted guards feelsbad lol
I have been accused of cheating for reaching China IR at 30 minutes :D
I gotta pump some more guides out so new players don´t get as frustrated.
xDin my case in 25 min when i started the horses spam they still middle age i had fun for a bit then i felt bad for them lol
@@Error-yw2he I know the feel... Sometimes You want to let them live... but you don´t want to disappoint your kill-hungry guardsmen :D
who can resist the delicious workers xD
@@Error-yw2he Not my Sipahs :D
China is one of the most annoying countries in wars tbh I couldn’t finish them from land so I used battleships
what does they do china workers ?
Is china still that good today?
no, it used to be early IR strong and late IR weak. Now it's early IR average and late IR weak.
Wow didn't expect for you to reply, thank you. How about japan?
Is japan good?
I think it will be a interesting enemy in the battles and it will be more challenging to find the right tactics. I'm hyped!
Discord: Schnifelus#4450
And finally we can bring out armored hans to burn them all down :O
Congratulations you won!
china seems a bit overpowered. they can get so many troops so quickly and they do quite a lot of damage ... but maybe im just bad at the game since im new XD
(my discord tag is mrdardy024#4846)
China definitely is very powerful if you let them rush to IR.
However during Bronze/Iron Age for example asia is rather weak. So arguably if you rush them with light knights in time then You can either destroy them or ruin their economy so that they will never have that early IR1 power spike. The first punch from China is the hardest, but as you start spamming anti-infantry units they become weaker and weaker. The foreign Supply Center is an easy target for Bombers and Artillery and without that the Militiamen and Soldiers will be sitting ducks to Death Scythes, Trench-Mortars etc. I don´t say China is balanced right now but there are typically two steps necessary when they introduce a new nation:
1. The Developers need to find the right balance for the mechanics and units that they wanted to implement.
2. The Community needs to learn how to counter the new nation´s Tactics and units.
If every nation was just a reskin of all the things we already have then the game wouldn´t be as interesting, in my opinion. I gladly accept some temporary imbalance in the game in order to have an awesome game on release day. It´s early access after all, although even League of Legends still struggles with balancing new heroes and even very old ones... balancing in games becomes ever more difficult the more variety you implement.
Oh how did this essay end up here? Sorry for the long read.
@@SolomonRaz nah this was really informative, dont worry about it. and i agree with you on your point that games need variety. of course its always going to be a struggle for those who dont pay in games haha but what can you do, they need the money and i personally like a challenge. :D
@@dardanleci2721 Well if You haven´t seen my light knight video yet... now with everybody going east asia is the best time for an early light knight rush that will crush them.
Struggle without paying? Well, there´s a bit of a grind and yes, temporary limitation to those who buy the imperial edition for example. But I wouldn´t call it struggle, while many games end before anybody even reaches IR.
i think if you are frontline you should go china but if you arent frontline you should take russia ,great britain or turkey cause china isnt that good in industrial no aircraft no mine no university
Well, China backline with Mounted Guardsmen spam is crazy strong.
But it depends on whether the enemies can easily wall themselves off or the map is open and you can sneak in with your mounted guardsmen left, right and center.
China is very versatile in the first 45 minutes and then becomes very weak, just a meat-shield spamming nation with loads of infantry. But they still have SMGs and RPGs so they´re not terrible even in late game. Just nowhere near as powerful as in IR1, that´s their time to shine.
If You go China frontline and your teammates don´t help you then you´re lost. Better Turkey in that case, I think.
Backline China is easy and strong, don´t see your point of not taking china in backline, that´s actually where they´re strongest in team-games, because the can make stables with horse archers to basically defend your whole team from getting light knight rushed.
thank you im noobi im new to the game imm trying to be gd but im trash i have 2300 tech point i dont know which contry i should get
@@thegamer-nn1pr For new players I recommend either Russia or Turkey.
For Russia You can watch my Light Knight Strategy and see whether You like it or not.
For turkey I have a video aswell and I just uploaded a new one that shows synergy between china and turkey with my friend westspirit.
If You have questions you can always ask me in the comments :)
They need the nerf china it's like free squad in every hose
i like tthe china horses cause you can shoot while running maddminer#1522
Definitely my favourite Unit :D
i love this game
Same. I cannot wait for its release. And for when all the content is out. Africa and Native American Tribes... oh boy, we´re in for a ride. I feel like this game could single-handedly take over the RTS genre.
I really like it cause it's so unique (K1M1 #7442)
My favourite country so far for exactly that reason.
wy have china no mines
It's for balancing their early IR power. Late game china is weak
thx for the detailed presentation
ChristophervanWaldhuf#0827
Glad I could be of help :)
Congrats you win one china code
Yessir nice video and I don’t like the economy of China void💯🐵#8702
yeah, it´s a bit of a bad economy but it´s important to balance out their strengths.
China seems to be weak to me without naval or aviation units and only tanks from the foreign center... I will not fancy spamming infantry at all.
It will be a good country to those who know how to use it🙂
#6268
Well, its main strength is the spam of infantry of course. I think the foreign supply center is more like a last resort in case your teammates cannot break through by themselves. I feel like just spamming Barracks is already a really great strategy with China. Soldiers, SMGs (to save metal) and RPGs to kill players. I even used trench-mortars with them after a long time of not even touching them. Especially when there is little to no metal around China can be really useful for the team.
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That´s right.