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@@jamiefitzpatrick4377 This is hardly the first time that people as a whole have misunderstood the meaning of something, even a single word (phrase), and misused it so much that the wrong definition is what prevails. The word "literally" and the phrase "blood is thicker than water" come immediately to mind. And thanks to the eldritch glories of the Internet as well as the infinitude of human stupidity, it's definitely going to be nowhere near the last either (in part because it already wasn't given how long said misunderstanding has been in place). [/hasn't even studied physics] Ain't humanity grand?
The fishing minigame, tedious as it is, was actually my main source of income for most of the game. There's a chest you can use to exchange resources to your god for money, but probably as a nod to Lovecraft, squids and octopuses in particular can be exchanged for an enormous amount of cash (a single octopus is worth 20 gold, which is about a third of what you get in your average run in the roguelike mode). And so I became The Lamb: Cult Leader, Slayer of Heretics, Harbinger of the One Who Waits, and World-Renowned Fish Salesman.
This works even better when you use the ritual that allows you to get the 2 for 1 fish. While this is nice, there is one ritual that nets you over 1k gold just by asking your followers for money, which is just nuts and very time efficient (especially when you get the 50% cd reduction & minus 50% cost on rituals).
Pro tip - Bones return the highest number of items from any missionary mission, even more than gold, and the missionary mission for bones is low risk. Bones can be sold for 1g. Missionary quests for bones literally earn more gold at lest risk than missionary quests for gold
I blasted my way through the tech tree until Devotion literally stopped spawning and instead became gold. I have literally only just killed the second boss and I will never need money ever again.
As much as the micromanagement of the cult feels like a drag I feel like it compliments the dungeon crawling. You're subtly encouraged to move quickly through the rooms, doing your best to pull off as many combos as possible all while hoovering up as many resources as you can so your cultists don't starve or run out of beds. Then when you get back you make them all their mac and cheese, tell them about the greatness of the dark lord and how he's only probably kinda evil, tuck them into bed then head out in the middle of the night to do it all again.
The devs have been really good at bug patching (on PC at least, can't speak for consoles). The bugs he listed (as well as a few I hit) have all been specifically patched out already. But this review is quite accurate, actually. I don't understand why the janitor's station doesn't allow the peeps to pickup their own poop, or why *I* have to clear out the outhouses. I don't understand why I can't appoint a cook. Those issues contributed to why I had to spend more time with the cult and less on crusades. As such, I ran into the same issue as Yahtzee. My cult base was all but complete, my upgrades were all unlocked, and I hadn't even entered the third zone yet. So, the pacing there is a bit off. That said, like him I also found myself drawn into a "...just one more (in-game) day addiction". If you're interested, give the demo a try and don't let the bugs scare you (on the PC at least), a rapid barrage of patches seems to have cleaned that up.
@@Dusty-- Hm, that's odd given the lil buggers poop all over the place (until restrooms). Does that mean janitor stations need to be spread out all over the place?
I'm gonna guess the pacing is designed for players who go "I'm bored, gonna go crusade" with their base still in shambles. That's why there's so many "bail me out of problems" rituals in the game. I couldn't do that though, if there were chores that needed doing I wanted to do them before doing the next level and I got myself into a pretty comfortable (if tight) rhythm before whoops unlocked the final tier of upgrades in the 2nd area. This also had the side effect of leaving aforementioned "oops I fucked up" rituals completely unused in my playthrough.
@@theredknight1757 To ensure good 'coverage' I would yea, same way you might spread outhouses, though I managed to get by with 1 of each on either half of the map.
As for the bug thing, only on pc is it completely patched. Up to you on console but don't bother on switch. I don't have a switch but the way people on cotl Reddit describe it, I genuinely think there might be a lawsuit soon...
Great alternative for the eat-grass trait: The cannibal trait. That way, you can just eat the corpses of your dead. You don't have to dig graves, you have a lot less issues with the food supply and everyone gets happier eating dead gramps. The base building part really does get bogged down with a lot of micro-management. It's kinda ludicrous that the farm requires an upgrade so your followers get the idea to actually harvest the food they've grown or the farm just stops working when every plant is grown fully. Overall, though, it's still really fun to play and provides a good chuckle every now and then.
frankly I think a bit of an expansion to the followers list would do the game some good, keeping track of which cultists are assigned to which jobs because either I'm bad at keeping track or they just wander around doing whatever jobs they damn well please because I genuinely can't figure out who's supposed to be doing what.
I think the grass is still better, its more than plentiful, and once you unlock resurrection you can just keep a rotation of all the cultists you need, best way to level them up instead of starting from scratch.
Why use bodies for one, shitty small meal though, when you can turn them into compost and then use the compost to boost whatever crops you got, as such making many more meals (or whatever else is being cultivated) with it in the long term? (And yeah, granted, it's a late game thing, but I'm talking in general)
@@FunnyStripes Yeah I agree. Cannibal seems like a trap to me in general, especially since I didn't find cultists died a whole lot until late game anyway. But even then it wasn't that much.
@@FunnyStripes Why do either of those things when you can drag your cultists back from the void and put them back to work? Saves on grave space if it's just a nap until the cooldown on resurrection is ready. :)
For anyone wandering what the fishing was good for: High end meals and shit tons of money because your totally not evil dad fukin loves squids and gives you 20 per.
It takes a long time to get rare fishes so that's pretty useless. You can't be feeding anyone at that rate. But I hadn't considered that the good price of squids and octopus is a Cthulhu reference.
@@twilightvulpine I forget its name but there's a ritual that gives you a fishing cheat code basically guaranteeing the fisherman quest completion in one go. After that the fisherman becomes an infinite fish source and together with the Dad money box -- an infinite money exploit.
OR you could use that ritual that makes your followers give you like 700 coins for the cost of like 10 or 20 faith and then offset te lost faith with a sacrifice or any other ritual
I think the game, despite all its clear flaws, has a lot of charm, enough to make me look past those problems and keep it fresh enough until the end. I hope the devs either polish it further and allow then to make a more refined sequel or similar idea in the future. It's been a lot of fun.
I think this is a good way to put it. I also think Zero Punctuation certainly didn't give it a bad review either. It's got it's flaws but it was a lot of fun.
I ate food that a minion was trying to grab, but he grabbed it anyway and began eating that meal forever! I also had multiple buildings just stop working with no reason or the building destroy itself when used up, so I had to manually delete and rebuild the buildings.
@@trucluu7894 Thats fine, but if that happens the building is supposed to collapse and you collect everything up and you KNOW its dead. These buildings stayed standing and my minions would tell me "Sir, theres no wood to chop though." So I murdered 2-3 for talking back to me because obviously the building was still standing.
I also had the building bug multiple times, my lumber yard would be fine one day, and then everyone would refuse to touch it, making me destroy it and build it again. I also had issues getting my cultist to refine resources, to the point that I just had to build a second station for it because no one would use the first. Ps5
Ah, the usual response in any hybrid base building game when Followers/Essential NPC's (PRESTON, I KNOW THERE'S SETTLEMENTS THAT NEED MY HELP, LEAVE ME ALONE) keep pestering you with quests and garbage every single time you take a step in their direction.
Given the game's premise, it seems odd that a large chunk of the primary gameplay loop is performing mundane chores. If there was a choice of career where you could make a bunch of underlings drop everything and perform whatever menial task you assigned them, I would think that Cult Leader would rank somewhere close to the top.
So, last week Yahtzee reviewed a game where you play as a Hell cow, and this week he reviewed a game where you play as a lamb who heads an evil cult. Seems like there's a recent trend in games where you play as an evil animal. EDIT: I did not expect this comment to get so many replies
Cult of the Lamb was a phenomenal *concept* which i hope to see more of. The colony builder and the rougelite are two of the most replayable genres. Cult’s problem was that both elements were underdeveloped. Every dungeon run is the same, and the colony is a grind to build up, and lacks the “sim city” satisfaction of seeing a well-run society. Colony sims are only really fun when its a micromanage-y grind at the start, but a properly managed colony runs itself in the late game. Like a proud parent seeing a child grow up; such games must have this satisfying element, or they lack any replay value
Do you play Rimworld? I just wrote a comment about how a good strategy game should only have you focus on the mundane stuff in the early game, and have you focus bigger picture in the end game.
@@TheBuckweat33 You should, it is a whole lot of fun, and it does the ramp up well. Its primary scaling factor is the number of settlers you have, whom automatically do tasks within the jobs you delegate them to. The more settlers, the more automation. The only thing that isn't automated is the combat.
This is what his reviews tend to sound like when he likes the game so I'd say he agrees with you; he still makes jokes and points out issues but when he mentions getting hooked that's an endorsement in my book
I also have/had the problem that you get way too many upgrade points in the beginning-ish part of the game. Like, I've unlocked about 12 builds and only had the resources to built two of them. Some balancing or more upgrades that just reduce cooldowns and costs would probably be nice.
interestingly i haven't had this problem, my problem is I don't have enough cultists, thye keep dieing of old age XD. I feel like the cost is at a fine point.
@@MasterGhostf i have two saves going atm, one I'm streaming and one for the hell of it. And in my stream save i found 4 necklaces that make the followers live significantly longer than they normally would, i use those for as demons since they live long enough to be lvl 10+ and they are almost 100 years old each. When they get too old I sacrifice them to the delight of everyone then bring them back also to the delight of everyone. In my other save I haven't found a single one of these necklaces.
Cult of the Lamb sits in a weird spot for me. I never feel the pull to go out of my way to actually play the game, but when I do I can't stop myself for hours. When I first started playing I thought the management aspect detracted from the dungeon crawler aspect, since you can get so bogged down with everything. But then the upgrades roll in and you can stop caring about a lot of it eventually.
Having beaten the game this past weekend, he’s not wrong with his criticisms. I wound up getting stuck on the final boss of the third area and wound up getting all the upgrades for all three trees. I didn’t have the kind of bugs he got but I did get some where I had to exit to main menu and reload. I still recommend this game because despite the genre mash-up, the developer actually took time to make sure it worked as a whole. There’s nothing about the game I would say is bad as even the optional stuff has some thought put into it. It’s a game that I think is going to boil down to personal preference for people.
also the existance of a roadmap is promising. Between the devs outright stating they plan to add more free dlc and extra content to the game as well as how popular it is, I'm hopeful that this game will grow into a much more fully formed and solid experience. Plus the bugs seem to be exclusive to console versions. The PC users have reported little to no issues (myself included) while the console users are up in arms about the technical issues but again, the devs are already working to fix it.
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 I'm on PC and I definitely got bugs. I've been locked on a screen after indoctrinating new followers, I've had my entire compound empty after returning from a run, and I had to beat a boss AGAIN because the game softlocked on me because I got hit by a projectile that didn't despawn while I was picking up a Heart of the Heretic. None of them were game-breaking as I was able to do the Main Menu fix and it wasn't that constant to detract from the game. Also I don't care about the roadmap as I feel the base game is worth recommending in it's current state.
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 Then you got lucky as I played for 27 and definitely got the bugs I described above. And these ones kept popping up during a few of the patches.
I had a bug where I put a grave very near the center, but it turned invisible. Without realizing, I built a stockades over it. The stockades worked fine, but everyone kept stopping at the imprisoned person to grieve and give me +2 Faith each time. You could really tell where their hearts were. They didn't want me to re-educate the heretics. Sorry, (pig) Emergency Bacon but (wolf) Red needs to get back to work in a few days. They have a skull necklace and they're level XII so I just need a little more before I leave their eyes perpetually glowing forever and hope each morning I wake up to a new hybridized skin.
The gane should've had a much longer timer between things. Because i felt like leaving the cult at any point was leaving it to suffer. Like "come back in 8 hours for your outhouse" would be a good notice for going to do a dungeon run
I don't know why I enjoy watching Yahtzee review games I've beaten to death already but yep, we definitely played the same game and had the same problems with it.
I'm in the same boat. This is a basebuilding pick-up-sticks with a dungeon-crawler minigame, which is odd because the story of the game is beating the dungeon crawls. And to me, the dungeon-crawl could benefit from taking a few MORE things from Hades and Binding of Isaac. With hades, the resources poured into the mirror or the weapons gave us the option to adjust play styles in the crawl section, giving a feedback cycle where we go farther and get more resources to upgrade our base so we can go farther. In Lamb, you don't unlock any meaningful upgrades through the basebuilding. Yes, the sermons unlock new weapon levels, but the damage is meaningless because the monsters scale, so the first room monsters still take 3-4 hits from lvl 1 weapons or lvl 20 weapons. There's no meaningful change between an endgame run and your first run. With Isaac, each run starts the same, but the sheer variation and synergies between items is mindboggling and you can have trash runs or god-tier runs. With Lamb, none of the upgrades change the runs meaningfully. The cards range from get a bonus red heart or gray heart, attack damage goes up slightly, and heal a bit more. None of this changes that the random mobs take 2-5 hits per turn with an axe or sword. The only real difference between runs is which weapon you have, but the difference between 2 axe runs is close to zero.
Gotta hard agree with the tech tree and upgrades point. Not only are 80% of the upgrades entirely pointless, they are only like 5 levels of dungeon upgrades, and the base upgrades are just ‘better’ versions of what you already have. Once you have an outhouse and lvl 2 farm, all you actually need to do is fix the beds when they break (until they dont) and make food for them whenever you get home. Enemies aren’t very varied, it doesn’t get hard, and the ultimate upgrade just gives you a set of oneshot weapons that auto-win runs. Which is hardly rewarding.
A few things I'd like to add: 1. The worst thing about the base is the fact that they used diamonds for the grid while having the island be a square shape is stupid as hell, it made each wall and corner look horrible and waste a lot of space, and paths just look really bad with diamonds as well. 2. The other thing I didn't like was some stuff were easily automated when leveling up such as having followers clean all the poop, plant food and harvest it, etc, while other stuff can't even be upgraded such as having to cook each meal individually yourself or having to continousally build wood/stone mines every now and then instead of being unbreakable like the beds.
If cult of the lamb didn't last 24 hours from beginning to end I might not have gone outside until summer was over, that said I'm happy (mostly) that I only experienced one bug despite the fact that that bug caused me to lose one of the hearts of the heretic. The final boss was easy so I didn't need the final upgrade though. I wish the spider stopped crashing for me, sometimes he just stops and I just kill him and it makes me said that he's supposed to be an interesting boss but couldn't stop crashing because of his ridiculous amount of minions that spawn every second.
Holy cow, that's why all of this sounded and felt so familiar to me, but couldn't exactly point to what made it so. It really is sort of like Dark Cloud, albeit of course, a lot more simplified, more resource-based, and more oriented towards the micro-management aspect than the dungeon aspect.
A bug I had was I rushed the starting day and mined up everything only to be soft locked at looking at 3 cult members till the end of time unable to go back to the dungeon or do and sermins and such
Cult of the Lamb's hybrid base management/dungeon brawling gameplay gives me hope that someday someone really will make Doom Crossing: Eternal Horizons.
Honestly I wish Yahtzee harped MORE about the bugs - we've essentially reached this point where bugs are just an expected norm and we're suddenly okay with absolute turds on release because they'll "eventually be patched". I'm not talking about little funny haha "dragon goes brr backwards in the sky not really affecting the game" bugs, either. Like his example with Schrodinger's Corpse, Cult of the Lamb not only launched with but still has an extreme number of objectively gamebreaking bugs and inexcuseable softlock states that are balls easy to fix, but they simply refuse to even acknowledge their existence and would rather get into discussions with users on the Steam Discussion board about how bad or good the fucking fishing minigame is. My prime example is the fact that if you get any kind of quest, you're LOCKED WITHIN THE CULT GROUNDS. This happens with nearly every single quest still, even this long after launch, and you can encounter it as early as the Bonfire Ritual - you're damned if you think to even try and get some upgrades, let alone build a Barn (which isn't even really that useful until you get its upgrade, because your cultists are too stupid to know to harvest the damn plants 'til then). So screw you buddy! You didn't hoard a mass amount of gold or timber? You literally have to wait over an hour for the trees to respawn to do your precious little Bonfire Ritual or restart, because the game doesn't allow you to do what would be the objectively easiest thing to fix a resource-related problem AND LET YOU GO GATHER MORE RESOURCES IN THE DUNGEONS. And yes, as of today that shit still isn't fixed. I refunded for that exact bug - one that was unfixable with a reload, mind you - ruining my progress an hour and a half in. It's a neat little title and it's good to burn some hours with, but holy shit the bugs kill it. You have to micro on top of your micro to make sure you have an emergency fund of resources and PRAY you have enough to not run into these softlocks. :/
I now cannot be convinced that Wilford Brimley did not in fact become one with The Force upon death. Constantly Nagging the other Ghosts and Luke about 'Diabeetus'.
Been a great game for me as a sahm with a baby, it tracks everything well enough that I can put it down and pick it up a dozen times throughout the day, I thought it was because I was on easy mode that the fishing game seemed pointless, glad to see it mostly was. The bugs soft locking me come the 4th baddie has been my only issue. Otherwise it's a great rouge lite for people like me who like dungeon crawlers but not must rouges. Pair with the creepy cute aesthetic and I'm pleased as can be
I've watched this channel for more than a decade now I think (there or there abouts) and I still wait for everyone to Come out. Yahtzee is such a gem In The gaming community
The biggest thing when I play Cult Of The Lamb is that after I quit I don't want to get back on because it'll give the opportunity for my cult to be unhappy again after I worked so hard to make things perfect before I get off
Just getting a comment out right at the beginning before I see the review, I'm really curious as to whether yahtzee will make any direct comparisons to last week's Hell Pie. Heck, I can't help but wonder why that wasn't a full-on double feature.
I'm loving it but fuck me have I hit a lot of bugs. {Switch version} For one I can't fish, I click the button to cast my line & he just backs out of it. A few times I've just been stuck their starring at the ocean forever. Rituals, confessions & practically anything with an animation that removes control for you for a bit has frozen on me multiple times. Even found my way into the void outside of the church once. Thankfully I just walked to the door to get out & walked back in again.
W e a p o n d u r a b i l i t y is also a trend in wood gathering games that most don’t really like. And lately I’ve compared this to actraiser meets isaac in the respect your towns people see you as a god, and much like actraiser you go do some actiony bits that play into the town building part
yelling into the void that is youtube comment sections time: Relics of the Old Faith update fixes some of the more monotonous micromanaging aspects, and adds more depth to the combat aspect good update
This game does have some fun twitch integration though where you can auction off the rights to chat to be the next cultist, whoever wins gets a pop-up in chat to make the cultist their own and then they get to be in the base and occasionally be a blood sacrifice
After a frankly unbelievable amount of patches in the first week, the game now works as intendet. However, i do have a few criticisms. -The cult should be more self sufficient, at least to the point where they cook or clean up after themself so i can focus on dungeon crawling. -I've almost maxed out my crown before i went to the second area. -There's not actually alot to explore and not many secrets to find, which would be ok but the theme is cults and religion, so i'm a little disappointed. -The introduced mentor character disappears after the tutorial and can only play a dice game with you, so i had no remorse when i *SPOILER* sacrificed him. -Followers age so fast and increasing loyalty becomes so annoying, you stop botherin to. -You have no control over the type of weapon you wield. It's not much of a problem, since the dungeons are fairly easy but it meanst the achievement of slaying a boss without getting damage is dependent on luck. -I don't get why i have to build a new lumberyard or quarry every goddamn day
I couldn't agree more, I also really dislike the diamond shaped grid for the base it makes building a nice looking town with roads a pain in the ass and doesn't even look that good
Right? I haven't build a single street for that reason and i only ever found one of these necklaces that slows ageing. At that rate, they die faster than i can sacrifice them, literally, and if i let them die naturally, my followers freak out, puke and get sick.
Janitors will clean up when you are out and if you want somebody back, just resurrect them. I have a level 24 follower just because I won't let him stay dead for long.
@@garthantash If the cooldown doesn't allow me to kill them faster than they die, you think resurrection is sustainable? besides, i shouldn't need to use resurrection just to make them worthwhile. I've had no qualms starting to sacrifice them en masse because of their short lifespans. I was even somewhat thankful for midas that i could rid myself of some elders and soon to be elders and get a new fleece out of it. What a bargain but not the point of "sacrifice".
@@LeSpeederus I have the life extension amulet on this particular follower so he sticks around for a while after resurrection. I keep him around only because I like the demon he summons and it gets stronger as he continues to level up.
Things I have never related more to : the joy of picking up little bit of wood, and that taking up significantly too much of my time in the last 12 years of gaming...
Honestly after just playing through Hades (beating the final boss once) I really don't feel like bothering with this game. When playing through Hades I always wanted to jump back into the action, not bother for too long managing my base.
Hades is so good. Beating the boss the first time is really just the beginning of the story, but it's also a fine spot to "finish" the game if you are just interested in the action. There are plenty of new weapons variants and of course story tidbits to unlock but it's still just Hades. I beat it quite a while ago and now I just jump in for a run every so often. Some people go crazy with that game though, there is a lot of stuff to unlock if you are into that sort of thing.
I can honestly say Cult of the Lamb is the only roguelike so far that's made me actually dread going on another murder-spree run. It feels far, far more heavily catered to the farm-simulator aspects than the combat gameplay, at least in my current 8~ish hours of gameplay. You have to micromanage and take care of so many things back at camp that leaving for even just one or two in-game days feels like an honest risk of something going wrong back home. I probably shouldn't mind so much if I lose followers here-or-there, but I'm the type to worry about that kind of stuff. It may just not be the gameplay loop for me. I think if the days were just, a third or half-again longer, I wouldn't feel like I'm missing so much from any missed Cult days since events would be more spaced out, which could help my enjoyment. That, and being able to actually choose a base starting weapon when setting out. I like choosing some kind of base playstyle for roguelike runs (Hades has weapons, Children of Morta has characters, same with Binding of Isaac, etc). The fact that CotL just hands you a weapon might be fine for most people, but I find it really disheartening that I don't start with a choice.
They are supposed to be the 4 horse men of the apocalypse, one caused you to fight your own that was war, one caused disease another caused famine, and the one who waits is death! One of the bishops doesn’t really do anything so idk what they supposed to be
I feel like if the food could be fully automated by end game or at least somewhat automated in the respect that occasionally a follower would cough up a meal that would be a cool edition. As someone that doesn’t like bars slightly unfilled the cult hunger meter constantly steps on my toes and is kinda stupidly ever present in the forefront of my mind even when I’m in the middle of a dungeon
I'm having a hard time figuring out if he liked the game or not as always. I know he said he had a hard time stopping playing but the overall tone of the review left me puzzled.
I was potentially going to play this one -- not pirate it, probably actually spend money -- and now I'm not. Thanks for reminding me how little I enjoy video games as a species and yet simultaneously how much I enjoy Factorio.
Grass eating isn't such a good idea because the only way to get grass is by cutting it down in dungeons, which is annoying, and you need grass to plop down farm patches. And yes I do recommend anyone who plays this game rushes the techs that automate stuff first and foremost (after rushing the techs that give you renewable wood/stone, otherwise you can't pay for shit). Apart from the outhouse and the janitor's lodge, you will want to get the upgrades that allow farmers to auto-plant, auto-water and auto-harvest ASAP. Being encouraged to bless/perform other actions to every follower every day is indeed silly, but its not necessary. There are other sources of levelling, so your cultists will still level even if you don't do this. Level is also not that important, nothing requires a specific level as far as I can tell.
Pacing of upgrades is definitely off with the pacing of story progression. Most people will max out at least their character tree, if not also their cult tree, before they reach the last dungeon of the game. The game is also too heavy on micromanagement for how clunky it can be to interact with the right thing when 5 different people/objects are right on the thing you actually want to deal with. I gave up on manually blessing cultists pretty quickly, but I still had to manually get the rewards when they ranked up. You should be able to appoint cultists to tasks like cooking, even if it's slower and they may not be able to cook the higher tier meals, and it should be easier to tell who is in charge of what to see if there are any tasks with too many people or with not enough. Basically the game just kinda makes you give up on being efficient with your cult after a certain point as it's not built to make that not frustrating. Also can we please be able to unlock at least one extra weapon choice at the start of dungeon runs? Some of them feel substantially better than others and I'd like to not be stuck with a hammer three runs in a row when I despise using it.
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There has been some really interesting looking games reviewed this year
Keep it up Yahtzee
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Saints Row when? Nick, I need that review 😭
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How poetic: The killer of all killer bugs for a death cult is a Schrodinger's Cat - An NPC who's alive and dead at the same time.
Worked against Alucard
@@camwyn256 For 30 years at least. :p
In a game that features a cast of furries.
@@Raziel312 So they might well have literally been a cat. That is one of the possible follower forms.
@@jamiefitzpatrick4377 This is hardly the first time that people as a whole have misunderstood the meaning of something, even a single word (phrase), and misused it so much that the wrong definition is what prevails. The word "literally" and the phrase "blood is thicker than water" come immediately to mind.
And thanks to the eldritch glories of the Internet as well as the infinitude of human stupidity, it's definitely going to be nowhere near the last either (in part because it already wasn't given how long said misunderstanding has been in place). [/hasn't even studied physics] Ain't humanity grand?
The fishing minigame, tedious as it is, was actually my main source of income for most of the game. There's a chest you can use to exchange resources to your god for money, but probably as a nod to Lovecraft, squids and octopuses in particular can be exchanged for an enormous amount of cash (a single octopus is worth 20 gold, which is about a third of what you get in your average run in the roguelike mode).
And so I became The Lamb: Cult Leader, Slayer of Heretics, Harbinger of the One Who Waits, and World-Renowned Fish Salesman.
This works even better when you use the ritual that allows you to get the 2 for 1 fish. While this is nice, there is one ritual that nets you over 1k gold just by asking your followers for money, which is just nuts and very time efficient (especially when you get the 50% cd reduction & minus 50% cost on rituals).
Cephalopod Salesman, surely.
Pro tip - Bones return the highest number of items from any missionary mission, even more than gold, and the missionary mission for bones is low risk.
Bones can be sold for 1g.
Missionary quests for bones literally earn more gold at lest risk than missionary quests for gold
I did two give-me-money rituals and that funded me until I was done with the game. The first one was worth 1600 gold by itself.
I blasted my way through the tech tree until Devotion literally stopped spawning and instead became gold. I have literally only just killed the second boss and I will never need money ever again.
As much as the micromanagement of the cult feels like a drag I feel like it compliments the dungeon crawling. You're subtly encouraged to move quickly through the rooms, doing your best to pull off as many combos as possible all while hoovering up as many resources as you can so your cultists don't starve or run out of beds. Then when you get back you make them all their mac and cheese, tell them about the greatness of the dark lord and how he's only probably kinda evil, tuck them into bed then head out in the middle of the night to do it all again.
The devs have been really good at bug patching (on PC at least, can't speak for consoles). The bugs he listed (as well as a few I hit) have all been specifically patched out already. But this review is quite accurate, actually. I don't understand why the janitor's station doesn't allow the peeps to pickup their own poop, or why *I* have to clear out the outhouses. I don't understand why I can't appoint a cook. Those issues contributed to why I had to spend more time with the cult and less on crusades. As such, I ran into the same issue as Yahtzee. My cult base was all but complete, my upgrades were all unlocked, and I hadn't even entered the third zone yet. So, the pacing there is a bit off. That said, like him I also found myself drawn into a "...just one more (in-game) day addiction". If you're interested, give the demo a try and don't let the bugs scare you (on the PC at least), a rapid barrage of patches seems to have cleaned that up.
The janitor station does let them clean up their own poop, but they have to be close enough and free enough to do it
@@Dusty-- Hm, that's odd given the lil buggers poop all over the place (until restrooms). Does that mean janitor stations need to be spread out all over the place?
I'm gonna guess the pacing is designed for players who go "I'm bored, gonna go crusade" with their base still in shambles. That's why there's so many "bail me out of problems" rituals in the game. I couldn't do that though, if there were chores that needed doing I wanted to do them before doing the next level and I got myself into a pretty comfortable (if tight) rhythm before whoops unlocked the final tier of upgrades in the 2nd area. This also had the side effect of leaving aforementioned "oops I fucked up" rituals completely unused in my playthrough.
@@theredknight1757 To ensure good 'coverage' I would yea, same way you might spread outhouses, though I managed to get by with 1 of each on either half of the map.
As for the bug thing, only on pc is it completely patched. Up to you on console but don't bother on switch.
I don't have a switch but the way people on cotl Reddit describe it, I genuinely think there might be a lawsuit soon...
Great alternative for the eat-grass trait: The cannibal trait. That way, you can just eat the corpses of your dead. You don't have to dig graves, you have a lot less issues with the food supply and everyone gets happier eating dead gramps.
The base building part really does get bogged down with a lot of micro-management. It's kinda ludicrous that the farm requires an upgrade so your followers get the idea to actually harvest the food they've grown or the farm just stops working when every plant is grown fully.
Overall, though, it's still really fun to play and provides a good chuckle every now and then.
frankly I think a bit of an expansion to the followers list would do the game some good, keeping track of which cultists are assigned to which jobs because either I'm bad at keeping track or they just wander around doing whatever jobs they damn well please because I genuinely can't figure out who's supposed to be doing what.
I think the grass is still better, its more than plentiful, and once you unlock resurrection you can just keep a rotation of all the cultists you need, best way to level them up instead of starting from scratch.
Why use bodies for one, shitty small meal though, when you can turn them into compost and then use the compost to boost whatever crops you got, as such making many more meals (or whatever else is being cultivated) with it in the long term?
(And yeah, granted, it's a late game thing, but I'm talking in general)
@@FunnyStripes Yeah I agree. Cannibal seems like a trap to me in general, especially since I didn't find cultists died a whole lot until late game anyway. But even then it wasn't that much.
@@FunnyStripes Why do either of those things when you can drag your cultists back from the void and put them back to work? Saves on grave space if it's just a nap until the cooldown on resurrection is ready. :)
For anyone wandering what the fishing was good for:
High end meals and shit tons of money because your totally not evil dad fukin loves squids and gives you 20 per.
It takes a long time to get rare fishes so that's pretty useless. You can't be feeding anyone at that rate.
But I hadn't considered that the good price of squids and octopus is a Cthulhu reference.
@@twilightvulpine I forget its name but there's a ritual that gives you a fishing cheat code basically guaranteeing the fisherman quest completion in one go.
After that the fisherman becomes an infinite fish source and together with the Dad money box -- an infinite money exploit.
@@GeorgeNoiseless I used that fish ritual a bunch and it is INSANE for money on its own.
To be fair, while your dad is an evil elder god he is still a cat. He wants them fishies.
OR you could use that ritual that makes your followers give you like 700 coins for the cost of like 10 or 20 faith and then offset te lost faith with a sacrifice or any other ritual
I think the game, despite all its clear flaws, has a lot of charm, enough to make me look past those problems and keep it fresh enough until the end. I hope the devs either polish it further and allow then to make a more refined sequel or similar idea in the future. It's been a lot of fun.
I think this is a good way to put it. I also think Zero Punctuation certainly didn't give it a bad review either. It's got it's flaws but it was a lot of fun.
They said there is free DLC being worked on, so that's nice
Yahtzee wasn't overly scornful and said that the game kept his attention. Seems to me like that's a qualified thumbs up.
I ate food that a minion was trying to grab, but he grabbed it anyway and began eating that meal forever!
I also had multiple buildings just stop working with no reason or the building destroy itself when used up, so I had to manually delete and rebuild the buildings.
The “building ran out of resources” is a feature not a bug tho. I hate that feature
I like to think he was nursing that one just to stare at you aggressively, like "MY mixed berries. NOT yours. M I N E."
@@trucluu7894 Thats fine, but if that happens the building is supposed to collapse and you collect everything up and you KNOW its dead. These buildings stayed standing and my minions would tell me "Sir, theres no wood to chop though." So I murdered 2-3 for talking back to me because obviously the building was still standing.
@@InBreadDragon remind me to never join your cult :)
I also had the building bug multiple times, my lumber yard would be fine one day, and then everyone would refuse to touch it, making me destroy it and build it again. I also had issues getting my cultist to refine resources, to the point that I just had to build a second station for it because no one would use the first. Ps5
I bought the game for my gf and she loves it, but it did lead to her yelling at her cult "Stop loving me I got shit to do!"
Ah, the usual response in any hybrid base building game when Followers/Essential NPC's (PRESTON, I KNOW THERE'S SETTLEMENTS THAT NEED MY HELP, LEAVE ME ALONE) keep pestering you with quests and garbage every single time you take a step in their direction.
Given the game's premise, it seems odd that a large chunk of the primary gameplay loop is performing mundane chores. If there was a choice of career where you could make a bunch of underlings drop everything and perform whatever menial task you assigned them, I would think that Cult Leader would rank somewhere close to the top.
So, last week Yahtzee reviewed a game where you play as a Hell cow, and this week he reviewed a game where you play as a lamb who heads an evil cult. Seems like there's a recent trend in games where you play as an evil animal.
EDIT: I did not expect this comment to get so many replies
I think it's just animal games in general
Well, two games hardly make a Trend. Let's see what the rest of the year brings.
@@MiaWinter98 ohh can we get a game we play as a card playing Vikings that are dogs
Plus stray...
Cats are just inherently evil
The furries finally snapped
Cult of the Lamb was a phenomenal *concept* which i hope to see more of. The colony builder and the rougelite are two of the most replayable genres. Cult’s problem was that both elements were underdeveloped. Every dungeon run is the same, and the colony is a grind to build up, and lacks the “sim city” satisfaction of seeing a well-run society.
Colony sims are only really fun when its a micromanage-y grind at the start, but a properly managed colony runs itself in the late game. Like a proud parent seeing a child grow up; such games must have this satisfying element, or they lack any replay value
Do you play Rimworld? I just wrote a comment about how a good strategy game should only have you focus on the mundane stuff in the early game, and have you focus bigger picture in the end game.
@@gingerinajacket8519 not yet; I always circle around it but never have I ever pulled the trigger, bought, and actually tried the game.
@@TheBuckweat33 You should, it is a whole lot of fun, and it does the ramp up well. Its primary scaling factor is the number of settlers you have, whom automatically do tasks within the jobs you delegate them to. The more settlers, the more automation. The only thing that isn't automated is the combat.
Hopefully the dlc remedies that issue
@@DirectorOfChaos9292 yeah it did, the age of robots is upon us.
I absolutely loved Cult of the Lamb, and would recommend it to anyone - and at the same time, this review is hilariously accurate :D
This is what his reviews tend to sound like when he likes the game so I'd say he agrees with you; he still makes jokes and points out issues but when he mentions getting hooked that's an endorsement in my book
In every way, this comment ☝ lol. Loved the game, deeply agree with the review.
Picking up twigs, picking up twigs. I like, I like picking up twigs. One twig, two twig, three twig, four. I like twigs and I want some more!
I also have/had the problem that you get way too many upgrade points in the beginning-ish part of the game. Like, I've unlocked about 12 builds and only had the resources to built two of them. Some balancing or more upgrades that just reduce cooldowns and costs would probably be nice.
interestingly i haven't had this problem, my problem is I don't have enough cultists, thye keep dieing of old age XD. I feel like the cost is at a fine point.
Yeah, I haven't even got to the second boss yet but I've got nearly every combat upgrade. The dungeon crawling bits need to be longer IMO.
@@MasterGhostf i have two saves going atm, one I'm streaming and one for the hell of it. And in my stream save i found 4 necklaces that make the followers live significantly longer than they normally would, i use those for as demons since they live long enough to be lvl 10+ and they are almost 100 years old each. When they get too old I sacrifice them to the delight of everyone then bring them back also to the delight of everyone.
In my other save I haven't found a single one of these necklaces.
Great to see Factorio mentioned! Please do a ZP for the coming expansion.
Cult of the Lamb sits in a weird spot for me. I never feel the pull to go out of my way to actually play the game, but when I do I can't stop myself for hours. When I first started playing I thought the management aspect detracted from the dungeon crawler aspect, since you can get so bogged down with everything. But then the upgrades roll in and you can stop caring about a lot of it eventually.
Same, I stopped playing for about 2 weeks and didn't miss it a single bit, but when I got back in I just kept wanting to go for another run.
Having beaten the game this past weekend, he’s not wrong with his criticisms.
I wound up getting stuck on the final boss of the third area and wound up getting all the upgrades for all three trees. I didn’t have the kind of bugs he got but I did get some where I had to exit to main menu and reload.
I still recommend this game because despite the genre mash-up, the developer actually took time to make sure it worked as a whole. There’s nothing about the game I would say is bad as even the optional stuff has some thought put into it. It’s a game that I think is going to boil down to personal preference for people.
also the existance of a roadmap is promising. Between the devs outright stating they plan to add more free dlc and extra content to the game as well as how popular it is, I'm hopeful that this game will grow into a much more fully formed and solid experience.
Plus the bugs seem to be exclusive to console versions. The PC users have reported little to no issues (myself included) while the console users are up in arms about the technical issues but again, the devs are already working to fix it.
The game menu has a section for upcoming content, I believe they might make up for it with updates.
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 I'm on PC and I definitely got bugs.
I've been locked on a screen after indoctrinating new followers, I've had my entire compound empty after returning from a run, and I had to beat a boss AGAIN because the game softlocked on me because I got hit by a projectile that didn't despawn while I was picking up a Heart of the Heretic.
None of them were game-breaking as I was able to do the Main Menu fix and it wasn't that constant to detract from the game. Also I don't care about the roadmap as I feel the base game is worth recommending in it's current state.
@@NathanCassidy721 I’ve played for 20 hours and haven’t found a single bug.
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 Then you got lucky as I played for 27 and definitely got the bugs I described above. And these ones kept popping up during a few of the patches.
I had a bug where I put a grave very near the center, but it turned invisible. Without realizing, I built a stockades over it. The stockades worked fine, but everyone kept stopping at the imprisoned person to grieve and give me +2 Faith each time. You could really tell where their hearts were. They didn't want me to re-educate the heretics. Sorry, (pig) Emergency Bacon but (wolf) Red needs to get back to work in a few days. They have a skull necklace and they're level XII so I just need a little more before I leave their eyes perpetually glowing forever and hope each morning I wake up to a new hybridized skin.
Still waiting for Tom Nook to eventually give us the task of building that scientology facility.
The gane should've had a much longer timer between things. Because i felt like leaving the cult at any point was leaving it to suffer. Like "come back in 8 hours for your outhouse" would be a good notice for going to do a dungeon run
I don't know why I enjoy watching Yahtzee review games I've beaten to death already but yep, we definitely played the same game and had the same problems with it.
Missed a perfect chance to have the bundle of sticks ask if they'd met their "Twig Sister".
"A marriage made in R'lyeh." 🤣 Brilliant.
This was a very warm reception by Yahtzee.
I'm in the same boat. This is a basebuilding pick-up-sticks with a dungeon-crawler minigame, which is odd because the story of the game is beating the dungeon crawls. And to me, the dungeon-crawl could benefit from taking a few MORE things from Hades and Binding of Isaac.
With hades, the resources poured into the mirror or the weapons gave us the option to adjust play styles in the crawl section, giving a feedback cycle where we go farther and get more resources to upgrade our base so we can go farther. In Lamb, you don't unlock any meaningful upgrades through the basebuilding. Yes, the sermons unlock new weapon levels, but the damage is meaningless because the monsters scale, so the first room monsters still take 3-4 hits from lvl 1 weapons or lvl 20 weapons. There's no meaningful change between an endgame run and your first run.
With Isaac, each run starts the same, but the sheer variation and synergies between items is mindboggling and you can have trash runs or god-tier runs. With Lamb, none of the upgrades change the runs meaningfully. The cards range from get a bonus red heart or gray heart, attack damage goes up slightly, and heal a bit more. None of this changes that the random mobs take 2-5 hits per turn with an axe or sword. The only real difference between runs is which weapon you have, but the difference between 2 axe runs is close to zero.
Yahtzee had a little lamb
Little lamb, little lamb
Yahtzee had a little lamb
It's fleece was red from murder
Gotta hard agree with the tech tree and upgrades point.
Not only are 80% of the upgrades entirely pointless, they are only like 5 levels of dungeon upgrades, and the base upgrades are just ‘better’ versions of what you already have.
Once you have an outhouse and lvl 2 farm, all you actually need to do is fix the beds when they break (until they dont) and make food for them whenever you get home.
Enemies aren’t very varied, it doesn’t get hard, and the ultimate upgrade just gives you a set of oneshot weapons that auto-win runs. Which is hardly rewarding.
A few things I'd like to add:
1. The worst thing about the base is the fact that they used diamonds for the grid while having the island be a square shape is stupid as hell, it made each wall and corner look horrible and waste a lot of space, and paths just look really bad with diamonds as well.
2. The other thing I didn't like was some stuff were easily automated when leveling up such as having followers clean all the poop, plant food and harvest it, etc, while other stuff can't even be upgraded such as having to cook each meal individually yourself or having to continousally build wood/stone mines every now and then instead of being unbreakable like the beds.
For some reason, the head of Wilford Brimley jammed on one of your little android things just gives me immeasurable joy.
If cult of the lamb didn't last 24 hours from beginning to end I might not have gone outside until summer was over, that said I'm happy (mostly) that I only experienced one bug despite the fact that that bug caused me to lose one of the hearts of the heretic. The final boss was easy so I didn't need the final upgrade though. I wish the spider stopped crashing for me, sometimes he just stops and I just kill him and it makes me said that he's supposed to be an interesting boss but couldn't stop crashing because of his ridiculous amount of minions that spawn every second.
God I miss the Dark Cloud series. Random dungeons and you find items for base building and plot progression and weapon crafting. So perfect.
Holy cow, that's why all of this sounded and felt so familiar to me, but couldn't exactly point to what made it so. It really is sort of like Dark Cloud, albeit of course, a lot more simplified, more resource-based, and more oriented towards the micro-management aspect than the dungeon aspect.
Oh god that end credit cartoon...
I learned about this game's existence via offbrand fanartz, and finally learned what it's really about via this video.
That's the internet for me.
Yahtzee’s delivery seemed a bit wooden this episode
I like how he’s sticking to his bits though
He really needs to branch out.
Probably just needs to pick himself up.
This game is what happens to all of the villagers in the Animal Crossing games you used to own.
LOL! So funny with the wood stick and s**t collecting running gag and the "What did I miss again?" running gag! XD
A bug I had was I rushed the starting day and mined up everything only to be soft locked at looking at 3 cult members till the end of time unable to go back to the dungeon or do and sermins and such
That bug killed me, that was hilarious
Zero Punctuation Miracle of Sound filk of the week:
*Three Levels Deep On The Tech Tree*
Cult of the Lamb's hybrid base management/dungeon brawling gameplay gives me hope that someday someone really will make Doom Crossing: Eternal Horizons.
Lots of great jokes on this one, very well written!
Honestly I wish Yahtzee harped MORE about the bugs - we've essentially reached this point where bugs are just an expected norm and we're suddenly okay with absolute turds on release because they'll "eventually be patched".
I'm not talking about little funny haha "dragon goes brr backwards in the sky not really affecting the game" bugs, either. Like his example with Schrodinger's Corpse, Cult of the Lamb not only launched with but still has an extreme number of objectively gamebreaking bugs and inexcuseable softlock states that are balls easy to fix, but they simply refuse to even acknowledge their existence and would rather get into discussions with users on the Steam Discussion board about how bad or good the fucking fishing minigame is.
My prime example is the fact that if you get any kind of quest, you're LOCKED WITHIN THE CULT GROUNDS. This happens with nearly every single quest still, even this long after launch, and you can encounter it as early as the Bonfire Ritual - you're damned if you think to even try and get some upgrades, let alone build a Barn (which isn't even really that useful until you get its upgrade, because your cultists are too stupid to know to harvest the damn plants 'til then).
So screw you buddy! You didn't hoard a mass amount of gold or timber? You literally have to wait over an hour for the trees to respawn to do your precious little Bonfire Ritual or restart, because the game doesn't allow you to do what would be the objectively easiest thing to fix a resource-related problem AND LET YOU GO GATHER MORE RESOURCES IN THE DUNGEONS.
And yes, as of today that shit still isn't fixed. I refunded for that exact bug - one that was unfixable with a reload, mind you - ruining my progress an hour and a half in.
It's a neat little title and it's good to burn some hours with, but holy shit the bugs kill it. You have to micro on top of your micro to make sure you have an emergency fund of resources and PRAY you have enough to not run into these softlocks. :/
fishing is to make gold if you don't want to do dungeons for it. You can "sell" the fish to the god for some sick cash. Or make meals from it.
I now cannot be convinced that Wilford Brimley did not in fact become one with The Force upon death.
Constantly Nagging the other Ghosts and Luke about 'Diabeetus'.
So... why is "Mrs. Yahtzee" not also wearing the trademark hat?
Been a great game for me as a sahm with a baby, it tracks everything well enough that I can put it down and pick it up a dozen times throughout the day, I thought it was because I was on easy mode that the fishing game seemed pointless, glad to see it mostly was. The bugs soft locking me come the 4th baddie has been my only issue. Otherwise it's a great rouge lite for people like me who like dungeon crawlers but not must rouges. Pair with the creepy cute aesthetic and I'm pleased as can be
This game is an absolute gem!
i discribed this to my friend as Satanic Animal Crossing, seems like a fair description
The complaints and praise is spot on here.
This wasnt the path i expected from Aardman animation when they put out the direction for Shaun The Sheep. But do go on lets see where it takes us.
1:44 Am I the only one that saw 4 "OW"s and read it in the Portal turret voice?
I've watched this channel for more than a decade now I think (there or there abouts) and I still wait for everyone to Come out. Yahtzee is such a gem In The gaming community
Haven't played this yet but I've been listening to the soundtrack on repeat, it's so entrancing.
The biggest thing when I play Cult Of The Lamb is that after I quit I don't want to get back on because it'll give the opportunity for my cult to be unhappy again after I worked so hard to make things perfect before I get off
"I don't want to accidentally murder the septic tank."
And that's a new sentence.
Just getting a comment out right at the beginning before I see the review, I'm really curious as to whether yahtzee will make any direct comparisons to last week's Hell Pie.
Heck, I can't help but wonder why that wasn't a full-on double feature.
I was really enjoying this game until I passed out playing it and woke up to a village full of corpses
Today, I learned picking up cultist Schroedinger soft locks the game
I'm loving it but fuck me have I hit a lot of bugs. {Switch version}
For one I can't fish, I click the button to cast my line & he just backs out of it. A few times I've just been stuck their starring at the ocean forever.
Rituals, confessions & practically anything with an animation that removes control for you for a bit has frozen on me multiple times. Even found my way into the void outside of the church once. Thankfully I just walked to the door to get out & walked back in again.
W e a p o n d u r a b i l i t y is also a trend in wood gathering games that most don’t really like. And lately I’ve compared this to actraiser meets isaac in the respect your towns people see you as a god, and much like actraiser you go do some actiony bits that play into the town building part
I feel like the fishing mini game was there to tick a box more than anything.
yelling into the void that is youtube comment sections time: Relics of the Old Faith update fixes some of the more monotonous micromanaging aspects, and adds more depth to the combat aspect
good update
That last joke was gold man
This game does have some fun twitch integration though where you can auction off the rights to chat to be the next cultist, whoever wins gets a pop-up in chat to make the cultist their own and then they get to be in the base and occasionally be a blood sacrifice
I would die for that little lamb.
After a frankly unbelievable amount of patches in the first week, the game now works as intendet.
However, i do have a few criticisms.
-The cult should be more self sufficient, at least to the point where they cook or clean up after themself so i can focus on dungeon crawling.
-I've almost maxed out my crown before i went to the second area.
-There's not actually alot to explore and not many secrets to find, which would be ok but the theme is cults and religion, so i'm a little disappointed.
-The introduced mentor character disappears after the tutorial and can only play a dice game with you, so i had no remorse when i *SPOILER* sacrificed him.
-Followers age so fast and increasing loyalty becomes so annoying, you stop botherin to.
-You have no control over the type of weapon you wield. It's not much of a problem, since the dungeons are fairly easy but it meanst the achievement of slaying a boss without getting damage is dependent on luck.
-I don't get why i have to build a new lumberyard or quarry every goddamn day
I couldn't agree more, I also really dislike the diamond shaped grid for the base it makes building a nice looking town with roads a pain in the ass and doesn't even look that good
Right? I haven't build a single street for that reason and i only ever found one of these necklaces that slows ageing. At that rate, they die faster than i can sacrifice them, literally, and if i let them die naturally, my followers freak out, puke and get sick.
Janitors will clean up when you are out and if you want somebody back, just resurrect them. I have a level 24 follower just because I won't let him stay dead for long.
@@garthantash If the cooldown doesn't allow me to kill them faster than they die, you think resurrection is sustainable? besides, i shouldn't need to use resurrection just to make them worthwhile.
I've had no qualms starting to sacrifice them en masse because of their short lifespans. I was even somewhat thankful for midas that i could rid myself of some elders and soon to be elders and get a new fleece out of it. What a bargain but not the point of "sacrifice".
@@LeSpeederus I have the life extension amulet on this particular follower so he sticks around for a while after resurrection. I keep him around only because I like the demon he summons and it gets stronger as he continues to level up.
"You in the union" LOL
Things I have never related more to : the joy of picking up little bit of wood, and that taking up significantly too much of my time in the last 12 years of gaming...
Been waiting for this one.
I've been looking out for this one!
Oh hello Wilford Brimley I genuinely did not see you standing there
Honestly after just playing through Hades (beating the final boss once) I really don't feel like bothering with this game. When playing through Hades I always wanted to jump back into the action, not bother for too long managing my base.
Hades is so good. Beating the boss the first time is really just the beginning of the story, but it's also a fine spot to "finish" the game if you are just interested in the action. There are plenty of new weapons variants and of course story tidbits to unlock but it's still just Hades. I beat it quite a while ago and now I just jump in for a run every so often. Some people go crazy with that game though, there is a lot of stuff to unlock if you are into that sort of thing.
To be fair Hades doesn't have actual base management. Your base is just an indicator of upgrades and a place to chat with NPCs.
So in conclusion simultaneously underwhelming and yet strangely addictive? Sounds like my sex life.
I haven't played it, just seen a bit of let's play's of it.
So my experience is also similar to my sex life.
Wasn't David Koresh the one with the compound that's on fire?
I can honestly say Cult of the Lamb is the only roguelike so far that's made me actually dread going on another murder-spree run. It feels far, far more heavily catered to the farm-simulator aspects than the combat gameplay, at least in my current 8~ish hours of gameplay. You have to micromanage and take care of so many things back at camp that leaving for even just one or two in-game days feels like an honest risk of something going wrong back home. I probably shouldn't mind so much if I lose followers here-or-there, but I'm the type to worry about that kind of stuff. It may just not be the gameplay loop for me.
I think if the days were just, a third or half-again longer, I wouldn't feel like I'm missing so much from any missed Cult days since events would be more spaced out, which could help my enjoyment.
That, and being able to actually choose a base starting weapon when setting out. I like choosing some kind of base playstyle for roguelike runs (Hades has weapons, Children of Morta has characters, same with Binding of Isaac, etc). The fact that CotL just hands you a weapon might be fine for most people, but I find it really disheartening that I don't start with a choice.
So.... moonlighter cult edition.
Gotcha.
6.4K likes, 5.4K views. Now that’s some black magic!
3:15 reminds me of Mogworld super hard ^_^
They are supposed to be the 4 horse men of the apocalypse, one caused you to fight your own that was war, one caused disease another caused famine, and the one who waits is death! One of the bishops doesn’t really do anything so idk what they supposed to be
>Doner kebab
I understood that reference, very cool Yahtz.
Was expecting a comment on how it has Twitch functionality, where your IRL followers become in game followers just to be sacrificed.
First the hell cow, now the hell sheep, when is the hell chicken gonna get involved. Hell, bring out the entire farm
This reminds me that I want another Actraiser. That SNES game was awesome. Soundtrack rocked too.
The best part is to be able to transform corpse into fertilizer.
Cult game do be doing one thing right... making a cult of players that can't stop playing it
I feel like if the food could be fully automated by end game or at least somewhat automated in the respect that occasionally a follower would cough up a meal that would be a cool edition. As someone that doesn’t like bars slightly unfilled the cult hunger meter constantly steps on my toes and is kinda stupidly ever present in the forefront of my mind even when I’m in the middle of a dungeon
I'm having a hard time figuring out if he liked the game or not as always. I know he said he had a hard time stopping playing but the overall tone of the review left me puzzled.
Oh! The Schrodinger's oldie!
On my 2nd run none of followers died of old age and I ended up with 56 followers and I was superpowered. By the way this review is bang on.
I was potentially going to play this one -- not pirate it, probably actually spend money -- and now I'm not. Thanks for reminding me how little I enjoy video games as a species and yet simultaneously how much I enjoy Factorio.
Grass eating isn't such a good idea because the only way to get grass is by cutting it down in dungeons, which is annoying, and you need grass to plop down farm patches.
And yes I do recommend anyone who plays this game rushes the techs that automate stuff first and foremost (after rushing the techs that give you renewable wood/stone, otherwise you can't pay for shit). Apart from the outhouse and the janitor's lodge, you will want to get the upgrades that allow farmers to auto-plant, auto-water and auto-harvest ASAP.
Being encouraged to bless/perform other actions to every follower every day is indeed silly, but its not necessary. There are other sources of levelling, so your cultists will still level even if you don't do this. Level is also not that important, nothing requires a specific level as far as I can tell.
So, who’s ready for Giant Highway Frog Fest 2023??? 🎉🐸🎉🐸🎉
Pacing of upgrades is definitely off with the pacing of story progression. Most people will max out at least their character tree, if not also their cult tree, before they reach the last dungeon of the game.
The game is also too heavy on micromanagement for how clunky it can be to interact with the right thing when 5 different people/objects are right on the thing you actually want to deal with. I gave up on manually blessing cultists pretty quickly, but I still had to manually get the rewards when they ranked up.
You should be able to appoint cultists to tasks like cooking, even if it's slower and they may not be able to cook the higher tier meals, and it should be easier to tell who is in charge of what to see if there are any tasks with too many people or with not enough. Basically the game just kinda makes you give up on being efficient with your cult after a certain point as it's not built to make that not frustrating.
Also can we please be able to unlock at least one extra weapon choice at the start of dungeon runs? Some of them feel substantially better than others and I'd like to not be stuck with a hammer three runs in a row when I despise using it.
Zero Punctuation "quirky" indie track of the week:
*Nice Relaxing Fights To The Death* by *Gigantic Monstrous Frog*
Is it bad that I want to play it more now
Take a shot every time Yahtz says "The Binding of Isaac".
I want a retrospective Binding of Isaac review!
my wife, who used to love animal crossing, said this game is like animal crossing, but far better.