SYD BARRETT - Octopus || Reaction
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I idolised Syd Barrett in my teens; I felt like he was one of only a very few people on Earth to whom I could relate. I was also a musician and a writer, and I very nearly ended up just as Syd did.
That was wise of you to draw the connection between later Syd and later Kurt Cobain. Unlike many folks say, it wasn’t the drugs that did Syd’s mind in. It was disenchantment with fame, exhaustion with their insane tour schedule, a totally fucked-up love live. Both Kurt and Syd wrote lyrics that were very personal, whimsical, and full of inside references; yet, at the same time, once Syd was in the studio, he COULDNT be bothered-like Kurt-to double-track guitars (‘Why bother? I’ve already played that…’ He would say.) While Syd never got into heroin, as he was beginning to stress out and go into his decline, he would take Mandrax by the fistful, which was methaqualone, aka Quaaludes. This is why many of his solo recordings are in terrible time, and he would often have to do multiple retakes of very simple tunes.
Whilst I also prefer ‘The Madcap Laughs’, I think there are some truly marvellous tracks on ‘Barrett’, especially lyrically.
See, when I was an acid-fried adolescent in the 90s, it was not so easy as it is now to acquire rare albums like Syd’s solo work-record shops didn’t carry them, and only a few could get them. For a couple of years I knew Syd’s solo songs by their lyrics alone, which I had printed out and actually had bound in leather at a print shop into a beautiful little pocket-sized book. It contained all his lyrics-from those he’d written with Pink Floyd to the rarest, most obscure solo bits, some of which I didn’t hear the actual music to until I was in my mid-20s and had bought a collection of Barrett bootlegs from a kindred spirit in Nashville, TN, where I’d gone in the mid-00s to get an audio engineering certification, and eventually kick off my career as a mix engineer.
I strongly recommend you listen to some of Syd’s rarities with the Floyd, and then solo. I think these songs are his best work. I’ll list them in chronological order, that you might see how his mind metamorphosed over a period from 1966-1972.
Pink Floyd:
‘Bob Dylan Blues’
‘See Emily Play’
‘Candy and A Currant Bun’
‘Scream Thy Last Scream’
‘Vegetable Man’
‘Jugband Blues’
Solo:
‘Terrapin’
‘Long Gone’
‘Late Night’
‘Dominoes’
‘Maisie’
‘Wolfpack’
‘Opel’
These pieces range from the simple, easygoing, stuff of almost typical mid-60s British pop (albeit just always that little extra bit more clever [see ‘Bob Dylan Blues’]) to elaborate Expressionist lyrics accompanied by peculiarly-structured songs in unconventional tunings with extravagant numbers of chords (see ‘Opel’).
I hope you find this music intriguing, and find a place in your heart for this brilliant multimedia artist and sensitive, perceptive human being who found the world choosing a role for him before he’d yet sorted out for himself whom he wished to be. Enjoy your quest.
~Rip
"Vegetable Man" and "Scream Thy Last Scream" are brilliant examples of his lesser known Floyd work. I'd go as far as to say that "Vegetable Man" was the first appearance of what would later become the Glam Rock sound (with the whole Staccato and beat)... like, you can find alot of that in The Sweet's stuff, and with Slade and Suzi Quatro and other Glam bands.
Beautifully written and touching. Syd was a big part of my adolescent self. I used to draw sloppy line comics and thought I aint cut out for figurative drawing but I just had to draw him off the cover of his biography book I bought from my own savings. (It turned out pretty good, except for the hair, I knew shit about drawing hair).
I agree about the drugs, they served as a trigger and catalysator but were not the cause. I have to disagree about the disenchantment with fame, relationships woes and such like. They may cause someone to be a recluse like Salinger but Syd wasn't that kind of recluse. He had schizophrenia and he was about the right age for it to break out. This horrible, mysterious condition doesn't need any trigger and probably carries a strong genetic component. Syd could have the most normal, mundane, healthy existence and still end up in the same place. I know patients like that.
@@LarkSist I think the main reason I concur with the ‘disenchantment with fame’ theory is that I can relate, and my behaviour changed in almost exactly the same way as did both Syd and Kurt Cobain, toward the end of the letter’s life. When I was still enjoying my notoriety, even when I had to take a years-long holiday from psychedelics, my drugs of choice were still social lubricants: pharmaceutical Dexedrine, Scotch, and vodka tonics. However, after several years of this, the impossibility of maintaining a stable relationship without her feeling insecure because I was widely desired, and without my feeling insecure because my schedule didn’t permit me to pay her the attention she deserved, became a source of nonstop anxiety; I was constantly surrounded by people who thought they knew best what I should do in all aspects of my life; I kept running into persons who would give me advice about rather intimate topics, and I’d wonder, ‘How does this random person even KNOW about that?’ All this finally blew mi fuckin brain out mi ear, and I slowly weaned miself off the uppers with the aid of increasingly large amounts of alcohol, which I had begun to carry with me in mi jacket pocket in case I ended up anywhere what didn’t have a bar; I also got a prescription for the maximum legal dosage of Xanax, which I quickly switched to Klonopin (Rivotril for mi fellow Brits-I’m a Mancunian expat), as it is 1.5 times as strong and lasts 8 hrs to Xanax’s 4. I also got a prescription for hypnotic sleeping pills, just for good measure. I’d often combine the lot and just vanish into mi home studio, where I’d sleep for literally days. I gave up work on all projects that created public interest, and took up work as a Foley artist. (These are the geezers who, when you see a bloke walking down an alley in Italian leather shoes in the cinema, the Foley guy adds in the footsteps sound effect, with just the right kind of delay and reverb to sound like an alleyway vs , say, an hospital corridor. It was brilliantly anonymous work, and I hid in that for years, till I developed an illness-which is a different story.
The point is, I feel as if I went through a bit of what they did-only it must’ve been worse for Syd, and UNIMAGINABLE for Kurt, at his level of fame….
No song of Piper in your list? Piper is my fav album of any band
Maisie sounds like a "Morphine" song.. Octopus live in 70' sounds like punk just slower.. dude was an artist that didn't get truly recognized until his name was Roger again
Awesome of you to share syd like this with people who may not be aware of his tragic beauty, ans genius. There’s so much magic in his songs.
Barrett was a great guitarist willing to take risks.
At last! Someone has realised that!
Syd, my fave Psychedelic artist.🌃☮️ Barrett developed an effect that broght Delay pedal into existence. And he played with a violin bow, yeah before Page. He also influenced Bowie, TRex, among others.
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Great episode, D. Octopus was an old carnival ride - like the teacups but on arms that spin you faster. Octopus Ride during the chorus. Also some references from The Wind in the Willows. As a musician who was also put in a mental institution, schizophrenia and drugs do NOT mix. I didn't have the talent, but I know the hurt.
And yeah I think there’s probably a lot of references that we don’t understand , as Americans today. There could be references to British folklore or things from that era that go over our heads . I’d also love to hear someone from 1960s England explain what he means .
When you search into how things are today, all roads lead to Rome. Likewise for music eventually you'll be led to Syd Barrett. When this happens you discover a whole catalogue of music that only those 'in the know' are aware of. In my opinion if you've found Syd Barrett, then you've found that 'Rome'. There's no other hidden 'genius' of music that I'm aware of that everyone secretly copied.
Well, having known schizophrenics, they talk in riddles but there is always meaning.
Check out Jugband Blues. Last song he did with Pink Floyd on their 1st album after they sacked him. Now THERE you will see the meaning in his riddles.
In general his lyrics are always absurd and surreal, but somehow poignant and always spot on.
Useless trivia: he played all that on his electric guitar but not plugged in
I've always taken this song to be a look back at happier times in adolescence. The song alludes to that euphoric feeling you got from the rides at the fair, and that's why he's asking "please leave us here close our eyes to the octopus ride" a time before when all was happy. Some of the lines of this song are taken and re-worked from the poetry of Edward Lear and John Clare who are 19th century English poets. These poems may have been familiar to Mr. Barrett and had some special meaning to him. In an interview Mr. Barrett does say that he "tends to take lines from other things, lines he likes, and then writes around them." I believe he's trying to evoke a certain feeling for being at the fair/carnival. Some other lines in this song are pretty dark though like when he says "isn't it good to be lost in the woods" and "it means even less than I thought." I take this to mean he's feeling lost and empty and life means even less than he thought. Just my interpretation. I am very impressed with your video. Thanks for shredding some light on this great artist.
Damn! I'm the author of a book on Syd Barrett, and have to say that your analysis is really sharp and on point. Appreciate this, and your thoughtful and deep view on brother Syd.
Octapuss ride is at the fare ground go's around spins fast
I’m loving your reviews of Pink Floyd. I respect them so much. Two songs of theirs that I don’t think you’ve reacted to yet are from their Dark Side of the Moon album:
“Money”
“The Great Gig in the Sky”
Both songs are mind-blowing in different ways. “Money” contains another amazing David Gilmour guitar solo, as well as an equally impressive sax solo. And “The Great Gig in the Sky” contains an amazing vocal that doesn’t speak a single word. I’ll leave you with that as I don’t want to spoil the surprise.
I recommend listening to the studio/audio version of both songs first before listening to any concert or live versions.
This is a great tribute and a great assessment.Hats off
Listen to Wolfpack by Syd Barrett. Off of the album Barrett. It's a masterpiece.
Astute commentary/analysis. Thank you.
I've done more than my share of psychedelics, but I don't make much sense of many of Syd's lyrics outside the lens of perhaps purposely cultivating an air of mysticism about himself. Of course there are several of his solo songs that aren't as abstract, some of which are my favorites like: Wolfpack, Dominoes, No Man's Land, and Wined and Dined.
Syd was still all with it when he was with Floyd and still he used this style of lyricism (see Relics compilation album before Piper if you want to get the order right.)
In the midst of abstraction you often find dense lyrical nuggets that inspire thought like-
"Howl in the pack and formation appears"
Some of his songs also seem to be written for children, or at least with them in mind.
Should do the whole album
Great reaction ✨👍
“I wonder what that means”….
Only Syd knew. But these songs are a window to his soul. I know he kept changing things, mid song, and for the people who tried to play on this, they never knew where he was going. His lyrics are both nonsensical and poetic at the same time. I still can’t make sense of it, it just is what it is. Opel is a favorite of mine. It’s less whimsical, a little more personal.
And I believe this is the last song he did as “Pink Floyd”. Watch until the end. This is so profound and sad, that he was self aware of what was happening with himself and his place in the band. And why the band dedicated their entire career after to honor him. It’s all so sad. He literally could have been/would have been the greatest rock star of all times had things gone differently.
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Your reaction comments I think are pretty astute! I too got the impression that Cobain was heavily influenced by Barrett. Two true artists! Rob Chapman’s Syd bio will help you with some of his lyrical references…very English indeed!
Crazy coincidence, I was checking out your recent Pink Floyd/Syd Barrett videos and later that day I watched an episode of House 2004-2012 (which I heard about for years but never watched it) Dr. House was talking about a patient with schizophrenia to another doctor. He talked about how it brought us great things like Socrates, Isaac Newton and that guitarist with that British rock band… Pink Floyd. He didn’t say Syd’s name but we know who he was talking about.
Syd was also featured in an episode of the X Files, where the main protagonist Dylan was obsessed with him. Wore a Syd Barrett T Shirt, had a poster on his bedroom wall and had a long conversation with his girl friend about how Syd was a misunderstood genius. The episode was "Lord of the Flies" Season 9 Episode 5. in which Reyes and Doggett investigate a teenage boy who, apparently, has the power to control insects which he uses to kill people.
The episode with Aaron Paul in the beginning from Breaking Bad.
Good job man!!This is why I watch your videos.
Syd was in a very fragile state and it comes through in the music. The lines 'Isn't it good to be lost in the wood' and 'Please leave us here.' give me a feeling a feeling of unease.
Unlike some, I love most of Syd's solo work, OK the lyrics are about as far away as it gets from "Moon in June" but, honestly, does that really matter and would we still be talking about it after all these years if there wasn't an air of mystery involved? God, I don't know what people would make of the British "psychedelic" folk group from that period, the Incredible String Band, but their lyrics are just basically strung together for musical effect and in reality are just another "instrument" within the mix rather than having any great meaning. To me that imparts a timeless feel to the music which has never dated.
I think "Barrett" also has some great tracks so shouldn't be discounted, my favourite is "Dominoes", which someone else has mentioned, which is as near as we'll ever get to an early Floyd track with Richard Wright on keyboards and David Gilmour on bass guitar and drums. Sublime.
This song is largely inspired by Edward Lear, many people think it's just druggy rambling, but he was more together for this song than any other on the album.
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Wow, you actually got it
I've never done psychedelics just weed but write poetry like this. My influences are e.e.cummings, James Joyce, Dylan Thomas and Barrett.
The octopus ride is a ride that goes round and round at fares and festivals makes u a bit sea sick fun on lsd though!probably got another name 4 it in us chears!!
carousel, or merry-go-round
"No good trying" and "here I go" off this album are my fav. Octopus is super catchy! Dont know the meaning, maybe just a wild ride of lyricism and poetry on psychedelic substances 😜
No, dear friend. Apparently Syd randomly mixed up rhymes and lines in a weird way, but of you're able to read between the lines, they have an internal coherence
Gretta Thunberg was called "anti semitics" for having a stuffed animal octopus..
Maybe try No Man's Land. I've always gotten slightly unsettled listing to that song.
That was weird but I’m glad you put on and I listened to it!
david gilmour also played the guitar for him and helped produce his solo albums
who ever made the comment and took it off here is the proof as you did not believe what i had said
Roger Waters and David Gilmour were in the process of completing Pink Floyd's Ummagumma album when they got involved with The Madcap Laughs that July and helped Barrett finish his album − "in a two-day sprint", according to Pink Floyd biographer Rick Sanders.
he produced it. Didn't play on it at all. In fact, this version of 'Octopus' isn't as good as the original that was recorded before Dave came on board
Octopus ride almost sounds like a carnival ride. I don't think the lyrics actually make any sense. It just paints a picture and is intended to invoke an emotional response rather than tell a definitive story
Great poetry, like great jazz should be hard to write (or played) and hard to decipher. There is meaning in Barrett's lyrics, it's just not spoon-fed to the listener.
Pps a bit more gentle than the new ones that make milk shake of your insides? Still scarey though!
The contrasting between "good to be lost in the woods" vs the subtly dark ripoff carnival with the barker hyping the cheery band and the cheap thrill ride that you have to "close our eyes to" isn't very hard to understand as contemporary social as well as music-business commentary in the lyrics that still resonate today.
Ace on acid! Early Syd pink Floyd beats all they did after
No it doesn't
Why tragedy?
this song is about aliens. octopuses are alien.
Don't believe what Waters says about Barrett.
I agree. He always says that he was “undoubtedly schizophrenic” but many people these days don’t agree. He did certainty suffer though.
@@allisonobrien-cn6is My belief is that Roger Waters was kinda jealous of Barrett as the front man. I had always defended Waters and then the truth struck me slowly sinking in.
Why? Was you there? cos I don't remember seeing you in the band
Why? Was you there? cos I don't remember seeing you in the band
Why? Was you there? cos I don't remember seeing you in the band
The band became far less interesting once Syd left.
Whats it mean? It means Syd look way much LSD. To be honest his music wasn't very good and Pink Floyd never would have become the band we all love if Syd wasn't removed from the band.
Yeah, PF wouldn't have existed in the first place , if not for Syd.
Very bad take
Sadly, you are right. Syd Barret was more avant-garde than PF wanted to be. Both creatively and performatively. I think we got the best of both worlds as fans though. PF's masterpieces, Syd Barret's madcap gems, and a mythology that adds so much to the music of both. Would have loved to see more from Syd though.
Can't stand pink floyd, love syd