I'm surprised that Adam doesn't have a spray booth (or if he does, that no one ever uses it). There were times during the making of the Knights of Ren costumes that I was open-mouthed at where the over spray was headed, and how little attention was paid to avoiding making a mess.
Aerosol/airbrush overspray doesn't travel far and it's usually dry by the time it lands. Now if they were spraying with a full size spraygun @2bar pressure (which is normal) the entire shop would be covered in it.
@@joost199207 it's not pointless. She said don't use baking soda directly on a model. For the base they used glue with a bit of baking soda so that's fine. For the model itself they used a baby powder and clear coat spray. It's hilarious that you guys think that a pro modelmaker doesn't know what she's doing.
@@duledusko but wouldn't any use of baking soda be on top of a base? ... otherwise it would just blow off Also, I don't think that they're criticizing her or saying that she doesn't know what she's doing, they just want to understand what she's doing because it was in direct contrast to what she had just said and never addressed
@ducy84 - "It's hilarious that you guys think that a pro modelmaker doesn't know what she's doing." - Or maybe we actually listened to the video, namely the part where she *clearly states* that she doesn't know what she's doing, at 3:10.
I have always used Woodland Scenics Flex Paste dusted with their soft flake snow. But may try the baby powder from a bag like they used if I need a finer size for the powder.
During Crystal Brush competitions, people use powdered glass for snow since it reflects light in the same way and you can make it look very slushy. NO ONE SHOULD EVER USE IT. You are literally one breath away from just tearing up your lungs with the worst stuff possible. but people still use it
You should never use it _without proper precautions_ (COSHH sheets and appropriate PPE are available), rather than never using it at all. Basically, wear a dust mask and clean up properly afterwards.
@@nagualdesign ugh. not only does it flake off creating the problem again during movement of the model but there is lots of cleanup you may not realize you need to do post process. Do you clean the brush you used to apply the brush and think, "job done?". I seriously hope not. Glass slivers loves getting wedged into small places like the ferrule and you night might get a shock of slicing weeks/months later if you wet your brush with your mouth. Mmmmmm MMMMM
Have you ever tried using horticultural perlite for snow? It's lightweight, brilliant white, and comes in all sorts of mixed grades for different scale effects!
I can attest to baking soda being bad news for snow flock. It turned yellow and softened the plastic on a miniature base I flocked with it after 6 or so months.
I have had quite a lot of success adding a small amount of white paint to a PVA/Baking Soda mix. Currently have some models that I based a year ago and they are still white.
@@TeaPoweredModels Yeah, I used baking soda, white glue and water to make snow for gaming minis and it worked fine, no bad reactions literally a decade later
Prop makers are not making museum quality or competition quality builds to last the ages. The name of the game, as Adam has said, is to get the desired result from the least work possible. This video gets you in the game and comfortable with creating the effect. So baking soda and baby powder work well, who is going to be using these props in 6-12 months? Also, the mech is a resin casting from Mechanation Studio: machinationstudio.com/
I use extinguisher powder, combined with super thin glue (evaporation based is best) and then a very thin dusting of super thinned white aerosol spray, and speckles of baby blue (also thinned) gives the best results. Super fine salt works too.
For those of you confused by the baby powder and baking soda dynamic, they meant that you SHOULDN'T use baking soda for the dusting part and that you should dust with baby powder, but you can use baking soda in the liquid snow looking thing at the beginning.
I personally prefer putting down the glue first and then sprinkling the snow on top, as if I make a mistake in laying down the glue I can just avoid that area.
My go to products for snow effects are micro balloons and glass dust/glass powder. I wouldn't recommend using baking soda because it'll turn yellow after a while.
Had the same thought. Some research proves it's on Tested.com's Premium Content (a paid membership) under the title "Model Behavior: Rocket Launch Smoke Effects". Looks like it is creative use of orange LEDs and cotton batting.
At 2:32 - LOOK AT THE OVER SPRAY!!! Much better to me to use the [spray on] + [sweep once] + [spray off] + [repeat] technique which she does "correctly" at 8:39. The on/off approach is easy once you get the hang of it. MUCH less over spray. Less stuff in your lungs. Less waste. Just plain better all around. My $0.02.
Had the same thought. Some research proves it's on Tested.com's Premium Content (a paid membership) under the title "Model Behavior: Rocket Launch Smoke Effects". Looks like it is creative use of orange LEDs and cotton batting.
where can i find the build of the rocket ship launch mentioned int the very beginning of the video? I haven't had any success by searching the channel.
@@robertdicken5439 it would be a long experiment considering it takes a while for the reaction to happen as they stated in the video. Feel free to try it out. I've got better things to do in the meantime. 😉🤣
The walking robot thing to me could have used little piles of snows on certain areas. Otherwise it looks like a machine that got dusted because it came out in the enviroment after it already snowed
He's a little awkward, a tad annoying with a touch of 'know it all'. In other words; a lovable little nerd. Just like the rest of us. ;p No need for mean, buddy.
Lol on the soda. It's a mythbuster thing?we've heard the effects were warning you. But hey let's use it and see what happens in a few months. But nooo.they left the invatation open to ridicule.
Don’t use baking soda. Okay, let’s get started. We’ll use baking soda.
Yeah I didn’t understand why you did after saying don’t. Was that because it was in glue? Or you don’t care if it last?
i am also confused
Lol I was just thinking the same thing and scrolled down to see if anyone else asked and sure enough.... Top of the list.
I think she meant _only_ baking soda in direct contact with models.
@@esaedvik That's exactly that.
At 02:34 I'd be absolutely terrified of getting ANY of that spray residue onto the costumes in the back :o
I'm surprised that Adam doesn't have a spray booth (or if he does, that no one ever uses it). There were times during the making of the Knights of Ren costumes that I was open-mouthed at where the over spray was headed, and how little attention was paid to avoiding making a mess.
Glad i am not the only one freaking out!
What i was thinking...
Aerosol/airbrush overspray doesn't travel far and it's usually dry by the time it lands.
Now if they were spraying with a full size spraygun @2bar pressure (which is normal) the entire shop would be covered in it.
1: 18 "I would caution against using baking soda. It may cause your model to melt." 3:05 "Okay, we're going to mix in some baking soda." C'mon, guys.
Amazing you included a time stamp yet paid no attention to the video.
They didn't put baking soda on the model... it was on the base.
@@RavenNest23 I was wrong. You're right.
"dont use backing soda" 2 minutes later "so were mixing baking soda and glue"
ikr
And the weird thing (3:10) is she doesn't even know why!
The PVA glue should seal it so it wont react.
Awesome tips! Always fun to watch Kayte's tutorials on model making.
NOCH has great sets for snow. Not too expensive, awesome results. Even for icicles!
Cautions against using baking soda. Less than 2 min later, mixes in baking soda.....
I was baffled
Yea, now the video is pointless since nobody wants their model to melt after a while.
@@joost199207 it's not pointless. She said don't use baking soda directly on a model. For the base they used glue with a bit of baking soda so that's fine. For the model itself they used a baby powder and clear coat spray. It's hilarious that you guys think that a pro modelmaker doesn't know what she's doing.
@@duledusko but wouldn't any use of baking soda be on top of a base? ... otherwise it would just blow off
Also, I don't think that they're criticizing her or saying that she doesn't know what she's doing, they just want to understand what she's doing because it was in direct contrast to what she had just said and never addressed
@ducy84 - "It's hilarious that you guys think that a pro modelmaker doesn't know what she's doing." - Or maybe we actually listened to the video, namely the part where she *clearly states* that she doesn't know what she's doing, at 3:10.
Of all the amazing videos on Tested, these miniature based projects with Kayte and Norm are my favorites. More, please.
I have always used Woodland Scenics Flex Paste dusted with their soft flake snow. But may try the baby powder from a bag like they used if I need a finer size for the powder.
Agreed. I also love the products from Precision Ice and Snow. No financial relation just a happy customer... ;)
Precision Ice and Snow is the best snow effect on the Market for Dioramas.
During Crystal Brush competitions, people use powdered glass for snow since it reflects light in the same way and you can make it look very slushy. NO ONE SHOULD EVER USE IT. You are literally one breath away from just tearing up your lungs with the worst stuff possible. but people still use it
You should never use it _without proper precautions_ (COSHH sheets and appropriate PPE are available), rather than never using it at all. Basically, wear a dust mask and clean up properly afterwards.
@@nagualdesign ugh. not only does it flake off creating the problem again during movement of the model but there is lots of cleanup you may not realize you need to do post process. Do you clean the brush you used to apply the brush and think, "job done?". I seriously hope not. Glass slivers loves getting wedged into small places like the ferrule and you night might get a shock of slicing weeks/months later if you wet your brush with your mouth. Mmmmmm MMMMM
Give Norm a Diorama show. Love when he does these colabs on miniatures.
Amazing work guys
you can also mix shaving cream or anything similar with baking soda and it will create powder you can seal with alcohol and watered glue
OMG that was so inspiring. All i can say is, where are the best schools to learn these trades. I absolutely have to be with my people...
I'm totally in love with that mech, it looks amazing!
So many better (and safer) materials to use.
internally *I NEED HER SHIRT!!!!!!!*
Inspirational. Rekindles the imagination.
Looks like Oreos and made me hungry. I love this channel!
Have you ever tried using horticultural perlite for snow? It's lightweight, brilliant white, and comes in all sorts of mixed grades for different scale effects!
That "not The Kinks" song around the 11 minute mark got Picture Book stuck in my head. Thanks guys!
I can attest to baking soda being bad news for snow flock. It turned yellow and softened the plastic on a miniature base I flocked with it after 6 or so months.
I have had quite a lot of success adding a small amount of white paint to a PVA/Baking Soda mix. Currently have some models that I based a year ago and they are still white.
@@TeaPoweredModels Yeah, I used baking soda, white glue and water to make snow for gaming minis and it worked fine, no bad reactions literally a decade later
How are you storing your models? Were they at all in the sun?
@@seanchilcote3287 They're gaming minis, so they're all stored in boxes or cases when not in use.
Today I Flocked Up
Sweet! Keep up the good work!
Good stuff, useful for just about any scale modelling!
Do you have any idea how many babies you have to grind down to make baby powder?
Like 12 to 15 maybe
@@iscogblackscale5777 at the very least.
Best thing about using baby powder, your model smells really nice when it's finished!
💙Great techniques! 💙More MODEL BEHAVIOR please!💙
Prop makers are not making museum quality or competition quality builds to last the ages. The name of the game, as Adam has said, is to get the desired result from the least work possible. This video gets you in the game and comfortable with creating the effect. So baking soda and baby powder work well, who is going to be using these props in 6-12 months? Also, the mech is a resin casting from Mechanation Studio: machinationstudio.com/
I use extinguisher powder, combined with super thin glue (evaporation based is best) and then a very thin dusting of super thinned white aerosol spray, and speckles of baby blue (also thinned) gives the best results. Super fine salt works too.
I really liked the build you did! How about next time the object you're working on should have more screen time?
Missed an element the front edge of the legs (bottom) would have built up snow/mush from walking through snow.
Love the Sick, Sad World t-shirt. Good memories.
For those of you confused by the baby powder and baking soda dynamic, they meant that you SHOULDN'T use baking soda for the dusting part and that you should dust with baby powder, but you can use baking soda in the liquid snow looking thing at the beginning.
Wounderful tip
I would use sanded down dry wall/sheet rock with white glue but that's an assumption of mine ☺
I personally prefer putting down the glue first and then sprinkling the snow on top, as if I make a mistake in laying down the glue I can just avoid that area.
Watching them spray paint so close to the astronaut suit replicas almost gave me a heart attack!!
i love kates t shirt, instantly got the daria reference
My go to products for snow effects are micro balloons and glass dust/glass powder. I wouldn't recommend using baking soda because it'll turn yellow after a while.
What's that you're really stirring in your tea? Honey, or bee vomit? Animal secretions that make us say yum, tonight, on Sick, Sad World.
Models! And finally an effect I can do...
What is the video modeling the rocket vapor?
Had the same thought. Some research proves it's on Tested.com's Premium Content (a paid membership) under the title "Model Behavior: Rocket Launch Smoke Effects". Looks like it is creative use of orange LEDs and cotton batting.
Looks awesome right???
All we get is endless talk-shows vlog stuff.....
@@Toadsith Thanks for the info!
Simone Giertz is my favorite cancer beater
That's a pretty random comment.
@@Wrecksy nope, she's part of the team.
I love the sick sad world shirt!
She is really pretty!!!!
I'll have whatever you're having.
Have a good day
Mmmmm...... Brownies!
Cool tutorial.....(no pun intended.)
Have you guys tried making icicles with hot glue?
Bryan at BG's Model Workshop “icicles”
At 2:32 - LOOK AT THE OVER SPRAY!!! Much better to me to use the [spray on] + [sweep once] + [spray off] + [repeat] technique which she does "correctly" at 8:39. The on/off approach is easy once you get the hang of it. MUCH less over spray. Less stuff in your lungs. Less waste. Just plain better all around. My $0.02.
I like this song in the end
Where's the video with the rocket effects?
Had the same thought. Some research proves it's on Tested.com's Premium Content (a paid membership) under the title "Model Behavior: Rocket Launch Smoke Effects". Looks like it is creative use of orange LEDs and cotton batting.
Is the Tank from a particular story or game?
PanzerBuyer looks like the 1920+ world to me
Iron Harvest perhaps?
i know it's late But "machinationstudio"
The clear spray paint that was mentioned, is it matt varnish?
What is the material of the base??
R.I.P Jessie Combs
Yay!
Now I'd like to see some ideas of how to make tiny icicles hanging on this model.
I couldn't find the water vapor vid... could you put a link to it? Thanks
where can i find the build of the rocket ship launch mentioned int the very beginning of the video? I haven't had any success by searching the channel.
Daria Morgandorfer
I would imagine that the PVA glue would seal the baking soda so rendering it non active.
Or leeching into the wet PVA contaminating it and making it harmful to the model as well.
I think some experimenting is called for here.
@@robertdicken5439 it would be a long experiment considering it takes a while for the reaction to happen as they stated in the video.
Feel free to try it out. I've got better things to do in the meantime. 😉🤣
How has a "pro" modeler not discovered micro balloons.
The walking robot thing to me could have used little piles of snows on certain areas. Otherwise it looks like a machine that got dusted because it came out in the enviroment after it already snowed
Does Adam know about Jessi ??
My tip: wait til winter, put model outside.
If you are concerned about a reaction with the baking soda, why not just use cornstarch?
Love it. But why not just use off shelf snow effects from companies like Vallejo or MIG?
Where can i get this model?
it took a few googles and i know it's late But "machinationstudio"
Clear coat spray? Does diluted white glue not good?
So flocking for snow is basically any white powder. I'm not using cocaine. It's way too expensive and....erm... I've used it all.
Just mist the loose powder with isopropyl alcohol and then mist it with watered down matt mod podge. It wont fly away
where can I buy the model base you guys used?
Can you please link the rocket diorama video? I cant seem to find it and be really interrested ;/
0:15 where’s that tutorial? Couldn’t find it😕
Someone should create an “archival” neutral fake snow for model makers.
The mechs like a bootleg adeptus mechanicus dune crawler
I agree
Honestly, we're after Adam.
Featuring 2 record breaking bullied at school presenters.
Not worried about getting black spraypaint on the costumes?
Baby powder will last long term?????????
Using the rattle can spray around the space suits freaked me out...
Not even a reference photo, to see what real snow looks like at that scale? This is sub-Blue Peter material...
i challenge Adam and you to make a real size model of the mg 42 machine gun (by the way iam a kid if you dont do it you would broke a kids heart)
I think under the word adorkable in the dictionary there is a photo of Kayte.
Did Adam ask for nasa’s permission.
Why would snow settle above the engine, where it's hot?
Maybe the mech hasn't been used for a little while
@@leonardocucchiara4782 they did a melt effect on the guns and exhausts, but not the vents/plate above the engine
@@mrman991 yes you're right. Now I see what you mean.
At least they don't use asbestos anymore like they did in the Wizard of Oz
Dry wet snow
ew
WHY do you wear masks for baby powder is my chilled gonna die from it now should i put a mask on my baby wen i apply it to his bum ?
Using baby powder is really out fashioned for that exact reason.
where is that model from?
i know it's late But "machinationstudio"
カメラを固定して下さい
Fix the camera
字幕を作って下さい！
From Japan Please!
Does anybody actually like norm?
He's a little awkward, a tad annoying with a touch of 'know it all'. In other words; a lovable little nerd. Just like the rest of us. ;p No need for mean, buddy.
john kessler I asked a question... in no way mean what so ever...but yes you’ve just stated my thoughts of him
@@Cr4igpeterson Gotcha. Question seemed rhetorical, that's why I thought that. Folks like us often go misunderstood. XD
john kessler so it seems 👍
Lol on the soda. It's a mythbuster thing?we've heard the effects were warning you. But hey let's use it and see what happens in a few months. But nooo.they left the invatation open to ridicule.
i like to flock every day......sometimes twice a day!!
lmao
Second
Question: how well does cocaine work as flocking?
it would liquefy and become poisonous to you and others SAFETY VIOLATION! YOUR FIRED!!
@@triwarpcurvature9220 so.... Just to be clear... You're saying I shouldn't?
Waaay to expensive