Kurt, very humbly, just glossed over the fact that he absorbed pro wrestling from scratch like a sponge and became one of the absolute best in an insanely short amount of time. "I picked up on it quickly" is an understatement.
"I mean, yeah I beat Brock, but it's not like I DESTROYED him like the boys tell it" So now I'm thinking, yeah, he demolished Brock in an amateur wrestling match and he's just being modest.
@@paranoidewok6772 within a year of entering the WWF Kurt was in main event programs with the Rock and Triple H. I'm sure in 1997 Kurt and Bret could have had a great match.
Nothing else needs to be said about Kurt's wrestling, it's elite. But, what got him to the next level was his mic skills, backstage storylines etc. He was one of the best.
@@jessekittrell2946 Who could have thought that a gold medalist in American freestyle wrestling would transition into wrestling so well!!!!! *Sarcasm* Seriously people are braindead.
@@jessekittrell2946What he was talking about was the business, the character and the entertainment aspects of pro wrestling, not the in ring skill. You need to have charisma, mic skills and live tv adaptability to be in pro wrestling and Kurt was great at those too the moment he started in WWF.
A very natural pro wrestler. Obviously super strong and knowledgeable of techniques, but a good worker, amazing on the mic, so entertaining, and no ego. He also respects other wrestlers who are less technically talented than him because he understands that business enough to know who puts asses in the seats
@@quiett6191I might sound crazy, I think it’s Logan Paul. I know his matches are probably heavily rehearsed but he’s 4/4 when it comes to putting on bangers in a 1 on 1 match. Not to mention he’s already better on the mic then 90% of the roster. If he ever went full time he’d have a chance to be the one of the best heels of all time.
What made Kurt's promo with Rey Mysterio even funnier was that the crowd was doing the stupid, Stone Cold "What?!" chants, and when Kurt said that line, the whole crowd just erupted with a legit "WHAAATTTTTT!!!?"
The term Goat get's thrown around a lot, but Kurt really is.. Amazing in ring worker. One of the best comedic talents of all time. A natural on the mic. Likeable as a heel or a face. And never has anything bad to say about his peers or the bussiness.. 100% class act in spite of his personal challenges.
Kurt is one of the greats of Pro Wrestling! His mic work as a heel is on par with Ric Flair. His ring work is outstanding! A true gem and GOAT that has a place in my top 5 of all time.
His comic ability to play straight man to himself being made fun of was pure gold.Also he was one of the best if not the best athletes ever in the ring.
Bro he started out with like Ric, DDP, and Jake. Probably the most incoherent ones you could pick from the bunch he's interviewed.(I love DDP, but if you're not a fan, he's basically just rambling about nothing)
@@raveoreynolds6049 true they are pretty incoherent but I mean it in the sense that I feel he’s developing a certain level of respect for pro wrestling that he didn’t really have when he first started interviewing them
Kurt is like the perfect pro Wrestler for Joe to interview, cuz (A) he is a legit wrestler, (B)he was pretty close to the top for most of his run and (C and most importantly) he doesn't and didn't take himself to seriously, which really connects with High Joe
I love Kurt’s energy. He knows wrestling is a show, a circus and he’s not too serious about it. While hogan when he talks about it he’s serious as if wrestling is real. Which is not.
Hogans not telling anyone pro wrestling is a shoot . He’s not saying it’s a real competition where the outcome is In jeopardy…He’s merely saying it’s incredibly athletic and physical and painting it with the condescending “fake” brush trivializes what they do
I have no idea how Kurt listned to Ralph. A multi million dollar contract and then he said he would get him a better job and made Kurt Angle, a gold medal olypmian become a sports caster?
Just imagine a world where Joe was/is an MMA fan AND a Pro Wrestling fan. Could you imagine him commentating with JR and The King? He'd be a perfect fit, once he fully grasps the idea of kayfabe. Its one thing to know what kayfabe is, its a whole different beast to live kayfabe.
Kurt took to pro wrestling like a duck to water. He was one of the goats. He was great technically, on the mic he was great, he could do comedy as well. He was fantastic.
The best match ive ever watched in WWF/E's was Kurt Angle vs Shawn Micheal 30 min Ironman Match which is a very rare match in itself. This was glorious.
It’s almost alarming to see angles arms and chest so small. He says he worried they might shrink into nothIng because he broke his neck so many times. Kurt is a warrior though, he’ll be ok!
Whats great about this is OTHER PRO WRESTLERS ALWAYS SAY HOW KURT picked up on how to be a Pro Wrestler quicker than anyone they've ever seen. He truly is an extraordinary man among extraordinary men. Kurt ANGEL. A TOP TEN PRO WRESTLER OF ALL TIME
I remember Kurt saying he attended an ECW show as a guest of Paul Heyman, but it was the same night that Raven "crucified" the Sandman. Kurt was so offended that he disavowed any involvement.
its funny joe rogan mostly hated on pro wrassling for years in his material but as a pod caster he probably found out that pro wrestlers are awesome people and great conversation!! :)
Kurt feels like a natural since day One, the way he takes the negative reaction of the crowd, own it and hang un there until he naturally become a wrestling machine was perfect. When he return From injury asking the people to scream at him "you suck" still Is One of my favorite momments of WWE History.
As I remember, he refused to come down to the ring if the audience didn't do the 'you suck' chant right. Pretty sure that was the night that the 'you suck' officially shifted from the fans making fun of Kurt into being what it is now, a way for us to say 'we love you.'
Listening to the whole podcast it’s funny how Joe can’t get his head around how professional wrestlers don’t benefit from stem cell treatments, Angle like Hogan has beat his body up SO much the treatments that Joe swears by are of no use
I am not a medical expert at all and this is just my uneducated guess but I suspect stem cells can only do so much and they may perform miracles for regular people who've bruised their body a bit but if you've done too much damage to your body over the years it can only do so much.
Rogan’s been running his mouth about wwe & wrestling as a whole for years. Until the wrestlers come on the show then he gets on his knees and is ready to blow them hard.
Wow, he didn't watch it before? He looked like a guy that was watching wrestling since he was little and his dream finally came true and he put everything into it
What a nightmare that first day as a sportcaster must've been. Basically everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong. Kurt was incredibly funny in his promos. He would play his character as this guy who is naive and would unintentionally own himself. One of my favorites was at one of WWE's ECW revival shows, and the crowd was chanting that Kurt sucks dick. Kurt fires back with "Your mother taught me how!", inadvertantly admitting that he sucks dick. 🤣 Another great bit was when he was basically playing Stone Cold Steve Austin's sidekick and always trying to gain his approval and friendship by trying to be more like him. At one point, Austin was wearing a cowboy hat. So to mimic him, Kurt puts on that tiny cowboy hat seen in the thumbnail image. Kurt wearing that little cowboy hat is an image that will never fail to make me laugh.
I think it's cool seeing former wwe Legends on here but kinda sketchy as well since from what I remember, Rogan was a pretty big shit talker about the industry and their wrestlers
He did love wrestling as he said.............then he saw ECW. He was slightly outraged because of the hanging. Sandman wasn't it. ecw ecw. Kurt is my goat, Brock is not far behind, Mark, Steve hhh Mick, further back but my goat of ECW will always be the tazmanic. He real good too
Not previously being a pro-wrestling fan and not working in some lame indy org with a goofy gimmick probably helped him be so successful so fast. He listened and learned from the true experts. I used to train people in sales, and most people with "experience" would dismiss things taught in training. Whereas people with no experience would soak it all up
Does someone have the link to the promo he talks about here? I saw something where he came out of the crowd and suplexed some Indian guy after he wanted him to blow his nose on the us flag but I don't see how that would be it.
This was a decent podcast the first half until Joe turned in into a full blown mma pod. I love mma way more than pro wrestling I even competed but ffs you got Kurt angle there .
Always found it funny that even though he's one of the most legit guys who ever wrestled in wrestling, and one of the most talented, when he talks about his time in WWE he always talks about a lot of the segments he was in and guys who don't have a tenth of his skill think it's all about the wrestling.
Most Olympic gold medallists are famous for 15 minutes. Kurt Angle is far more rich and famous for his pro wrestling career than he ever would have been if the Olympics had been his only real success, and one of the main reasons he's even remembered as an Olympic Gold Medallist is because his pro wrestling character talked about it all the time. In the year 2000 alone, millions of people around the world were watching Kurt Angle two or three times a week and finding him funny and memorable; in 1996, they watched him for a few minutes tops, and most viewers- especially outside the USA- probably forgot who he was within a few days.
The GOAT really. He's the best wrestler WWE has ever had. I don't think anyone can dispute that with his accolades. He's no Stone Cold, he's Hulk Hogan, he's no John Cena, he's no Brock Lesnar... he's fucking Kurt Angle who won an Olympic gold medal with a broken freakin neck
Kurt, very humbly, just glossed over the fact that he absorbed pro wrestling from scratch like a sponge and became one of the absolute best in an insanely short amount of time.
"I picked up on it quickly" is an understatement.
"I mean, yeah I beat Brock, but it's not like I DESTROYED him like the boys tell it"
So now I'm thinking, yeah, he demolished Brock in an amateur wrestling match and he's just being modest.
Imagine if Kurt would have signed with WWF in 1996. We would have seen the Bret Hart Vs Kurt Angle dream match
Wow never thought of it like that, would of been amazing.
Woah
Holy crap that match would've insane
No it wouldn't. Kurt was nowhere near ready for a main event program.
@@paranoidewok6772 within a year of entering the WWF Kurt was in main event programs with the Rock and Triple H. I'm sure in 1997 Kurt and Bret could have had a great match.
It’s good to see Kurt happy and healthy. He was an absolute gem on the mic. A great worker in the ring. Jus a natural. One of the best heels ever
Oh it's true. It's true.
Nothing else needs to be said about Kurt's wrestling, it's elite. But, what got him to the next level was his mic skills, backstage storylines etc. He was one of the best.
Wouldn't call him healthy, but he looks happy
@@JR-jy6ophealthier than me
Stone Cold had said a number of times on his podcast that he had never seen anyone pick up pro wrestling as quickly as Kurt did. He was a natural.
Alot of times it's the guys who aren't a mark for the business who turn out to be the best.
@@mikeg2491he was in the olympics.... he obviously had skill
@@jessekittrell2946 Who could have thought that a gold medalist in American freestyle wrestling would transition into wrestling so well!!!!! *Sarcasm* Seriously people are braindead.
Triple H said the same exact thing
@@jessekittrell2946What he was talking about was the business, the character and the entertainment aspects of pro wrestling, not the in ring skill. You need to have charisma, mic skills and live tv adaptability to be in pro wrestling and Kurt was great at those too the moment he started in WWF.
A very natural pro wrestler. Obviously super strong and knowledgeable of techniques, but a good worker, amazing on the mic, so entertaining, and no ego. He also respects other wrestlers who are less technically talented than him because he understands that business enough to know who puts asses in the seats
Kurt Angle had no ego....Perc Angle did
@@everythingstrength1485 couldn’t of said it any better!
He may very well be the greatest "natural" wrestler ever.
@@quiett6191I might sound crazy, I think it’s Logan Paul. I know his matches are probably heavily rehearsed but he’s 4/4 when it comes to putting on bangers in a 1 on 1 match. Not to mention he’s already better on the mic then 90% of the roster. If he ever went full time he’d have a chance to be the one of the best heels of all time.
@@kadelowden7959 lets say that Paul's the best, since Angle.
What made Kurt's promo with Rey Mysterio even funnier was that the crowd was doing the stupid, Stone Cold "What?!" chants, and when Kurt said that line, the whole crowd just erupted with a legit "WHAAATTTTTT!!!?"
legitmate what lmao
The fact that Kurt had a 20-plus year professional career after his amateur career is mind-blowing 🤯🤼♂️🥇🐐
The term Goat get's thrown around a lot, but Kurt really is.. Amazing in ring worker. One of the best comedic talents of all time. A natural on the mic. Likeable as a heel or a face. And never has anything bad to say about his peers or the bussiness.. 100% class act in spite of his personal challenges.
He would be the GOAT, but sadly, he spent the prime of his career in TNA.
He wasn't likeable as a heel. I HATED HIM!
@@tdestroyer4780Isn't that the point?
100% Kurt is GOAT
@@tdestroyer4780You basically described what a GOAT heel was suppose to do. Lmao
KURT SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITH Rock and STONE COLD
100
Kurt is one of the greats of Pro Wrestling! His mic work as a heel is on par with Ric Flair. His ring work is outstanding! A true gem and GOAT that has a place in my top 5 of all time.
His comic ability to play straight man to himself being made fun of was pure gold.Also he was one of the best if not the best athletes ever in the ring.
You can do that when you know you can take anyone down ANYONE! Because he won a gold medal WITH A BROKEN FREAKIN NECK!
Kurt angle is one of the best professional wrestlers physically, and his intuitions really show when he is in there going at it!
Joes best interview with a pro wrestler yet. The others he seemed kinda lost but he’s getting a lot more comfortable talking with them
Because Kurt is more than a pro wrestler
Kurt, Rock, Triple H, Paul hyman, they’re good for Joe’s broadcast
Bro he started out with like Ric, DDP, and Jake. Probably the most incoherent ones you could pick from the bunch he's interviewed.(I love DDP, but if you're not a fan, he's basically just rambling about nothing)
Definitely agree with the exception of jake the snake which I feel like I was an incredible podcast
@@raveoreynolds6049 true they are pretty incoherent but I mean it in the sense that I feel he’s developing a certain level of respect for pro wrestling that he didn’t really have when he first started interviewing them
One of the best interviews on rogan by a wrestler.
Vince need to go on
Used to hate Kurt angle when I was little watching wrestling back then. Hearing him outside of wrestling he seems like such a good dude
I’m glad I got an opportunity to see Kurt perform at Saturday nights man event in Detroit as the world heavyweight champion
Kurt was such a good heel. Whole crowd would be chanting "you suck!"
Kurt is like the perfect pro Wrestler for Joe to interview, cuz (A) he is a legit wrestler, (B)he was pretty close to the top for most of his run and (C and most importantly) he doesn't and didn't take himself to seriously, which really connects with High Joe
Kurt is a natural, but he paid his dues as well, huge respect for the man, and that Rey Mysterio bit, I still remember it to this day, awesome bit :)
Kurt was hilarious. I loved his promos and backstage antics.
His character and gimmick in the wwe will never replaced it suited him soooo muchhh
I love Kurt’s energy. He knows wrestling is a show, a circus and he’s not too serious about it. While hogan when he talks about it he’s serious as if wrestling is real. Which is not.
Hogans not telling anyone pro wrestling is a shoot . He’s not saying it’s a real competition where the outcome is In jeopardy…He’s merely saying it’s incredibly athletic and physical and painting it with the condescending “fake” brush trivializes what they do
I have no idea how Kurt listned to Ralph. A multi million dollar contract and then he said he would get him a better job and made Kurt Angle, a gold medal olypmian become a sports caster?
The biggest stars never watched pro wrestling before. Kurt angle, Goldberg, sting and the warrior
I remember seeing Kurt as a kid in Pittsburgh as a sports guy on the news!!
Kurt Angle belongs in the pantheon of the all time greats in the greatest era of wrestling.
Just imagine a world where Joe was/is an MMA fan AND a Pro Wrestling fan. Could you imagine him commentating with JR and The King? He'd be a perfect fit, once he fully grasps the idea of kayfabe. Its one thing to know what kayfabe is, its a whole different beast to live kayfabe.
Undoubtedly a legend and my ALL TIME NO 1 MOST FAVOURITE WWE STAR
Joe needs to get Vince on his podcast.
Mcafee had him and that was a pull. Supposedly was a tough get
97 Austin was great
Kurt took to pro wrestling like a duck to water. He was one of the goats. He was great technically, on the mic he was great, he could do comedy as well. He was fantastic.
Stone Cold was something special. I can see why Kurt got interested in the show because of Austen.
I loved the dorkiness of Kurt in WWE. Anyone who can make fun of themselves and enjoy it is alright.
Intensity. Integrity. Intelligence.
Kurt Angle the master of hugganomics is still my favorite 😂
The best match ive ever watched in WWF/E's was Kurt Angle vs Shawn Micheal 30 min Ironman Match which is a very rare match in itself. This was glorious.
Kurt angle was the best wrestler in the world for the first decade of the 2000s
I remember when Kurt Angle first started..I didn't realise this guy is a genius
Stone Cold was my #1 but I loved watching Kurt early on. All my friends used to make fun of me for it.
I don't know if anyone knows this but Kurt angle won a gold medal with a broken neck
“Sink or Swim” love it 😂
Kurt is such a legend man. The thing I love about his character was that he was a goofball but in the ring he was a savage
Savage lol it's fake
Kurt I’d the greatest example of “Trail by fire”. He hit the ground flying. He’s literally one of the greatest ever now.
I remember it was so weird seeing him when he shaved his head the first time now it's strange to see old clips of him with hair again
Needed another hour.
It’s almost alarming to see angles arms and chest so small. He says he worried they might shrink into nothIng because he broke his neck so many times. Kurt is a warrior though, he’ll be ok!
My favorite is how Kurt went from legit hating the "you suck" chants into embracing it during his HOF induction
Went to Kurt's wrestling camp in clarion pa with Rob eiter. Such a class act!😅
THANK YOU KURT. ❤❤❤
For what, boy? '-'
Rogan has that Jimmy Fallon fake laugh 💀
Kurt is so awesome.
Whats great about this is OTHER PRO WRESTLERS ALWAYS SAY HOW KURT picked up on how to be a Pro Wrestler quicker than anyone they've ever seen. He truly is an extraordinary man among extraordinary men. Kurt ANGEL. A TOP TEN PRO WRESTLER OF ALL TIME
Great guest! Kurt’s a legend
Kurt angle will always be my personal number 1
I liked this interview
I’m glad he’s clean now, but man TNA Perc Angle was an absolute madman
he left out the part where he showed up in ECW
I remember Kurt saying he attended an ECW show as a guest of Paul Heyman, but it was the same night that Raven "crucified" the Sandman. Kurt was so offended that he disavowed any involvement.
Religious or not gotta respect it. Kurt wouldn’t have got paid if he went to ecw 😂 Paul Rat Fuck Heyman
in terms of entertainment Kurt was one of the best
Why is youtube out of sync?
Thought he might of mentioned his ecw appearance, the night raven crucified the sandman
A goat in the game
its funny joe rogan mostly hated on pro wrassling for years in his material but as a pod caster he probably found out that pro wrestlers are awesome people and great conversation!! :)
Is the loading graphic really necessary?
I think it’s a copyright thing
It is when you steal other people's content and don't want copyright
It’s a garbage reuploader yeah what do you expect
Yes
@@Tattdaddy2232what do you mean copyrighting? Bruh it’s not even the real Joe Rogan channel. 😂
Kurt feels like a natural since day One, the way he takes the negative reaction of the crowd, own it and hang un there until he naturally become a wrestling machine was perfect. When he return From injury asking the people to scream at him "you suck" still Is One of my favorite momments of WWE History.
As I remember, he refused to come down to the ring if the audience didn't do the 'you suck' chant right. Pretty sure that was the night that the 'you suck' officially shifted from the fans making fun of Kurt into being what it is now, a way for us to say 'we love you.'
@@KairiPrime he played that chant like a champ, and did it both ways, he is a natural in the ring.
Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit.....matches that will never be duplacated.
Listening to the whole podcast it’s funny how Joe can’t get his head around how professional wrestlers don’t benefit from stem cell treatments, Angle like Hogan has beat his body up SO much the treatments that Joe swears by are of no use
I am not a medical expert at all and this is just my uneducated guess but I suspect stem cells can only do so much and they may perform miracles for regular people who've bruised their body a bit but if you've done too much damage to your body over the years it can only do so much.
Kurt was amazing
From someone that’s didn’t watch wrestling to one of the GOATs, not only in ring but character wise too. There will never be another Kurt Angle.
Most of tbe Wrestlers from that era say they've never seen anyone pick up the Wrestling Business as quick as Kurt Angle even Stone Cold.
Rogan’s been running his mouth about wwe & wrestling as a whole for years. Until the wrestlers come on the show then he gets on his knees and is ready to blow them hard.
Bruh they look like twins😂😂
0:39 that agent is a jealous mf sure he didnt want kurt to do better in life . who throws a multi million dollar contract for an analyst job😂🤦🏾♂️.
Probably thought it was dead end for him and his health. 1996 was only just starting to get traction, with the benefit of hindsight.
Wow, he didn't watch it before? He looked like a guy that was watching wrestling since he was little and his dream finally came true and he put everything into it
Not only did he not watch it he had a negative opinion of it at first but it won him over.
We need joe to get steve and vince on
Guys like Kurt angle and Brock lesnar and Shelton Benjamin bought another level to pro wrestling.
And also Logan Paul
This is why Kurt is Kurt & Gable Steveson still isn’t on WWE TV.
What a nightmare that first day as a sportcaster must've been. Basically everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong.
Kurt was incredibly funny in his promos. He would play his character as this guy who is naive and would unintentionally own himself. One of my favorites was at one of WWE's ECW revival shows, and the crowd was chanting that Kurt sucks dick. Kurt fires back with "Your mother taught me how!", inadvertantly admitting that he sucks dick. 🤣
Another great bit was when he was basically playing Stone Cold Steve Austin's sidekick and always trying to gain his approval and friendship by trying to be more like him. At one point, Austin was wearing a cowboy hat. So to mimic him, Kurt puts on that tiny cowboy hat seen in the thumbnail image. Kurt wearing that little cowboy hat is an image that will never fail to make me laugh.
Kurt Angel
When your lawyer is also your business manager, yeah......that only cost him several million dollars
Why would his first promo in WWE be 5 minutes? Start with a minute seems like a good start.
I think it's cool seeing former wwe Legends on here but kinda sketchy as well since from what I remember, Rogan was a pretty big shit talker about the industry and their wrestlers
He did love wrestling as he said.............then he saw ECW. He was slightly outraged because of the hanging. Sandman wasn't it. ecw ecw. Kurt is my goat, Brock is not far behind, Mark, Steve hhh Mick, further back but my goat of ECW will always be the tazmanic. He real good too
Multi million? In the 90s?! Jesus.
I wish he spoke about that fiasco the night he was suppose to sign with ECW but then raven stole the show with that crucifixion
Not previously being a pro-wrestling fan and not working in some lame indy org with a goofy gimmick probably helped him be so successful so fast. He listened and learned from the true experts. I used to train people in sales, and most people with "experience" would dismiss things taught in training. Whereas people with no experience would soak it all up
Does someone have the link to the promo he talks about here? I saw something where he came out of the crowd and suplexed some Indian guy after he wanted him to blow his nose on the us flag but I don't see how that would be it.
This was a decent podcast the first half until Joe turned in into a full blown mma pod. I love mma way more than pro wrestling I even competed but ffs you got Kurt angle there .
Funny when he said Mr.Mcmahon I'll never forget it your face pressed into Rikises ass.😅
"I'm Kurt Angle?"
Ur a just a lil boy in a mans world and i love to play with lil boys lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 funniest promo to date
Always found it funny that even though he's one of the most legit guys who ever wrestled in wrestling, and one of the most talented, when he talks about his time in WWE he always talks about a lot of the segments he was in and guys who don't have a tenth of his skill think it's all about the wrestling.
i love that kurt wanted to get in the wwf because of stone cold
Perc Angle
Am I the only one who finds it odd he says "so you went from the Olympics straight to like the big time" pretty sure the Olympics is the big time
Most Olympic gold medallists are famous for 15 minutes.
Kurt Angle is far more rich and famous for his pro wrestling career than he ever would have been if the Olympics had been his only real success, and one of the main reasons he's even remembered as an Olympic Gold Medallist is because his pro wrestling character talked about it all the time.
In the year 2000 alone, millions of people around the world were watching Kurt Angle two or three times a week and finding him funny and memorable; in 1996, they watched him for a few minutes tops, and most viewers- especially outside the USA- probably forgot who he was within a few days.
@@jonathancampbell5231 I understand what he means and the logic. Just from an actual athletic standpoint is what I mean lol
The GOAT really. He's the best wrestler WWE has ever had. I don't think anyone can dispute that with his accolades. He's no Stone Cold, he's Hulk Hogan, he's no John Cena, he's no Brock Lesnar... he's fucking Kurt Angle who won an Olympic gold medal with a broken freakin neck
Sexy Kurt was hilarious!
great athlete, funny and humble. Legend
That sounded gay when i read it
@@shotzburynative4384 He'll make your ankle hurt, ankle huuuuuuuuuu-urt
He's a honest guy. Un like hulk
🐐🐐
Who is Joe's buddy? Never heard of him and he talks way to much with not adding anything to the interview.
Young Jamie, he's the show producer. He's wrestling fan.
I remember Kurt on WPGH in Pittsburgh and yes he was horrible. Cindrich blew that one. Go Stillers.