As a dispatcher, NYPD traffic during a hot call is my f*cking nightmare. God be with the survivors of this incident and God be with the agency as a whole. I pray a remedy for this communications issue makes itself apparent very soon.
Great job by the Rookie who was the 3rd officer in Sector David. He just killed the perp who had just killed his 2 partners and calmly called a 10-85 and advised shots fired. Too many Officers talking on radio at once. May God Bless the families of the fallen Officers. Retired NYPD
As a retired mos. For the 80 90 00. The radio was always and will be always like that . There is a lot of cops and everyone is stepping on each other , the training will not stop that , the rush of a mos shot and units 84 on the scene , we all think we are helping by goin* on the radio but not the case .
As former Officer the radio traffic is absolutely unacceptable I’m sorry. I’m so so sorry the officer lost his life & for his family & pray the other officer makes it!! May God Bless them. Man
I’m a former NYC EMT and a retired NYC police officer.This is NYC police department. This is everyday. You have to understand, this dispatcher has to transmit calls with a foot pedal, read and type basically in short hand on the screen and listen and control the air. Where were you a cop at. They get almost a million calls a year and it’s extremely stressful.
I think commenting on problems with radio communication does not detract from the reality of the situation. Communication and coordination was diminished as a result.
@@davidgrossman7965 Obviously “omg” is kind of a comment, but it’s on the reader to know that it was in lieu of actually making a more detailed comment about how horribly bad their radio traffic and radio discipline is. And at the time I didn’t want to get into it because it would be heavily criticizing the department while they have a coworker seriously injured and fighting for his life.
I know what I'm listening for and I'm having a hard time understanding who's talking who's not etc. it got better it got better once they got the officers to the hospital but the beginning..wow. Im praying for NYPD and there families for their lost.
Extremely unlikely. You gotta try and understand the haters way more to see why they hate. It’s definitely from being misinformed but it’s not misinformed about the fact that crazy stuff like this happens.
They'll still continue to hate cops like idiots unless one of their loved ones was a cop and had this unfortunate fate. It's a shame that's what it would take to change their minds.
Can’t help to think how the lack of radio discipline might have contributed to his or other officers’ deaths and in capturing perpetrators by delaying medical care and coordination in creating a path to the hospital and locking down that scene. I can’t say for sure that their radio traffic reflects their chaos on scene but it’s likely. (I intentionally waited a year to post this comment bc I didn’t want to detract from the officer fighting for his life at the time this audio was originally posted.)
I’ve heard the radio traffic from 9/11 and they weren’t this back with everyone stepping on each other maybe initially when the planes hit and all the stations were responding but afterwards really only the fire chiefs were on and directing fire crews with the occasional firefighter relaying victims trapped locations and what not. Ngl tho it’s an eerie listen.
RIP to the lost officer and prayers to the injured, but the NYPD radio traffic during these incidents is just terrible. The entire dept needs more training on radio discipline. I've heard too many of these cluster F's on this channel.
Level 1 is task force. Level 3 is the entire borough. They needed task force *and* units from the entire borough, so they ordered a level 3 *and* level 1.
NYPD is by far the worst for their radio procedures and I've listened to many calls and always sit here thinking - you're all talking over each other, most of you aren't even on scene yet and have no reason to take the channel - STFU and listen, let the unit calling call it and allow the dispatcher to dispatch. Don't be disrespectful to them or talk over them. If the dispatcher doesn't know where you are, God better had otherwise you are truly in the shit. NYPD rates itself as the best police force in the world, but its radio protocol is totally appalling... Someone needs to train their dispatchers and officers on how to manage radio traffic when it hits the fan, everyone talking isn't it!!
I was wondering about that. I was saying if this is how they were for a downed officer how were they for 9-11 and how would they be if something similar occurred.
@@davidgrossman7965 People compare us to the entire country when it comes to radio traffic. Remember, all division channels have AT LEAST 2 precincts on each. Some are citywide. Some division channels have 3, even. So for people to compare us to small town police agencies or agencies who don’t even slightly compare to us in numbers. The amount of people we have on one channel amounts to an entire citywide frequency in another city.
Once again New York failed the test with them radio. They need to learn from Chicago Police, with all due respect. May God bless and protect every blue live out there.
@@SaSZombieAssault1021 If you contacted the station you would know why things were hectic. Especially with two officers down and a trainee with them (by the way who killed the perp) excellent shot trainee 💪🏽 🔫
@@chrisdee9620 I don’t know what you are listening too, but here is one of the latest best handle by Distpach and distressed officers. You can understand everything. th-cam.com/video/LH2r_76gWWU/w-d-xo.html
@@MediosCorporativos The difference is that NYPD has more resources and Precincts. However there are also 2 Centrals covering simultaneously which makes the process quicker. Especially with how stressful this can be.
As an UMOS, I heard the important details on the radio. I understand what happened and what they were saying. On this night, it was the most horrible night ever, god bless you and your family. We’ll take the line from here brothers, god speed.
XO should only be speaking….. yelling rush on a bus multiple times by multiple mos creates havoc…. horrible situation but units need to get control of emotions and need better radios
Holy moly, why in all heck are these guys screaming randomly into the radio? The fire dispatch on 9/11 was less chaotic…even after the towers fell (which says a lot). Dispatch is trying but people are even yelling over her mid sentence. If I was listening to this with no context I’d think this was civilians on a line as it sounds like panic. It gets better halfway through…but I’m mind-blown.
All you former MOS understand how it is, how the fog of war takes over, the traffic was a problem but don't pretend you don't understand how hectic shit gets. It's unfortunate but it is our reality. Don't quaterback these cops that are trying to save a life.
Absolutely great job by the dispatcher i know she must be tramatized for the rest of her life..much respect for professional RIP to both officers and to the heroic job the 3rd officer did in that apartment
This radio traffic is soooo very unacceptable. Too many people stepping over each other so many people hollering and screaming orders over the air. Rest in peace to Officer Jason Rivera. But this radio traffic was the worst. They all need to be retrained in RADIO TRAFFIC
jesus fucking christ clear the radio and have some fucking leadership skills if that radio traffic ever happened in my city no one would last another minute control your radios
As a dispatcher, NYPD traffic during a hot call is my f*cking nightmare. God be with the survivors of this incident and God be with the agency as a whole. I pray a remedy for this communications issue makes itself apparent very soon.
Where is EMS? They are the main resource that is really needed !!!!!
they called for them like 2-0 times@@KK-fl9lv
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THE 911 POLICE DISPATCH IS A TRUE PROFESSIONAL.. GOD BLESS HER, HANDLING THE CHAOS , THE BEST SHE COULD...
Great job by the Rookie who was the 3rd officer in Sector David. He just killed the perp who had just killed his 2 partners and calmly called a 10-85 and advised shots fired. Too many Officers talking on radio at once. May God Bless the families of the fallen Officers. Retired NYPD
As a retired mos. For the 80 90 00. The radio was always and will be always like that . There is a lot of cops and everyone is stepping on each other , the training will not stop that , the rush of a mos shot and units 84 on the scene , we all think we are helping by goin* on the radio but not the case .
As former Officer the radio traffic is absolutely unacceptable I’m sorry. I’m so so sorry the officer lost his life & for his family & pray the other officer makes it!! May God Bless them. Man
That's almost always the case with the NYPD and their radio traffic during these types of incidents.
Yep! Pain in your gut and high anxiety
I’m a former NYC EMT and a retired NYC police officer.This is NYC police department. This is everyday. You have to understand, this dispatcher has to transmit calls with a foot pedal, read and type basically in short hand on the screen and listen and control the air. Where were you a cop at. They get almost a million calls a year and it’s extremely stressful.
@@ramonheard2758 I was officer here in Oklahoma. I started out as city officer but retired w the State of Oklahoma
Rest in peace Officer Rivera, we'll take the watch from here.
Radio is horrible. Couldn't really understand what they were saying
RIP.
I’m not going to comment on the radio discipline for now bc it’s not the time (tho when would be the time?), but omg.
I think commenting on problems with radio communication does not detract from the reality of the situation. Communication and coordination was diminished as a result.
I get it bro, maybe a good convo for some other time.
OMG, was kinda a comment. And why not comment? This is not a personal situation here on the comments section.
@@davidgrossman7965 Obviously “omg” is kind of a comment, but it’s on the reader to know that it was in lieu of actually making a more detailed comment about how horribly bad their radio traffic and radio discipline is. And at the time I didn’t want to get into it because it would be heavily criticizing the department while they have a coworker seriously injured and fighting for his life.
@@ZantherStone I hear ya
I know what I'm listening for and I'm having a hard time understanding who's talking who's not etc. it got better it got better once they got the officers to the hospital but the beginning..wow. Im praying for NYPD and there families for their lost.
If the haters listened to just one of these recordings, they would be reforned. Thank a cop today.
Extremely unlikely. You gotta try and understand the haters way more to see why they hate. It’s definitely from being misinformed but it’s not misinformed about the fact that crazy stuff like this happens.
They'll still continue to hate cops like idiots unless one of their loved ones was a cop and had this unfortunate fate. It's a shame that's what it would take to change their minds.
Can’t help to think how the lack of radio discipline might have contributed to his or other officers’ deaths and in capturing perpetrators by delaying medical care and coordination in creating a path to the hospital and locking down that scene. I can’t say for sure that their radio traffic reflects their chaos on scene but it’s likely.
(I intentionally waited a year to post this comment bc I didn’t want to detract from the officer fighting for his life at the time this audio was originally posted.)
A lot of people talk shit on Chicago PD radio traffic but NYPD is a nightmare
Way too much yelling . Dispatcher was great.
As a cop, NYPD radio traffic is incompetently horrifying. I can’t imagine how bad things were on 9-11 or if something similar were to ever happen.
I’ve heard the radio traffic from 9/11 and they weren’t this back with everyone stepping on each other maybe initially when the planes hit and all the stations were responding but afterwards really only the fire chiefs were on and directing fire crews with the occasional firefighter relaying victims trapped locations and what not. Ngl tho it’s an eerie listen.
RIP to the lost officer and prayers to the injured, but the NYPD radio traffic during these incidents is just terrible. The entire dept needs more training on radio discipline. I've heard too many of these cluster F's on this channel.
Question: How can there be both a level 1 and level 3 mobilization simultaneously? Unless there are 2 different crime scenes.
Yes. Level 1 is SRG response from the patrol borough in question. Level 3 is a response from every precinct in the patrol borough.
At the end it became a level 1 mobilization if you listened to the whole thing.
Level 1 is task force. Level 3 is the entire borough. They needed task force *and* units from the entire borough, so they ordered a level 3 *and* level 1.
I was wondering same
Thank you for your service RIP
NYPD is by far the worst for their radio procedures and I've listened to many calls and always sit here thinking - you're all talking over each other, most of you aren't even on scene yet and have no reason to take the channel - STFU and listen, let the unit calling call it and allow the dispatcher to dispatch. Don't be disrespectful to them or talk over them. If the dispatcher doesn't know where you are, God better had otherwise you are truly in the shit.
NYPD rates itself as the best police force in the world, but its radio protocol is totally appalling... Someone needs to train their dispatchers and officers on how to manage radio traffic when it hits the fan, everyone talking isn't it!!
In this particular case, 3 Precincts are sharing the same frequency with 1 Dispatcher. The Dept needs to change and step into modern policing.
The port authority and NYFD was calm during 911 attacks they had a very good radio traffic control
I was wondering about that. I was saying if this is how they were for a downed officer how were they for 9-11 and how would they be if something similar occurred.
Horrible situation
In every aspect b/c we lost 2 of our best BUT having a trainee with them was excellent!! Thank God he made his 2 connections count 🔫💪🏽
Typical NYPD cluster. Prayers out for the fallen and especially the survivors
Exactly
@@davidgrossman7965 People compare us to the entire country when it comes to radio traffic. Remember, all division channels have AT LEAST 2 precincts on each. Some are citywide. Some division channels have 3, even. So for people to compare us to small town police agencies or agencies who don’t even slightly compare to us in numbers. The amount of people we have on one channel amounts to an entire citywide frequency in another city.
@Pj Haebe Read my above comment
No radio discipline. Everyone talking over each other. I'm a retired Deputy. We did not talk and scream like this on the radio.
Once again New York failed the test with them radio. They need to learn from Chicago Police, with all due respect. May God bless and protect every blue live out there.
I just contacted the precincts involved, I'm really gonna push them everyday if I have to.
😂 I listened to Chicago and it was a mess. What are you talking about? Lol
@@SaSZombieAssault1021 If you contacted the station you would know why things were hectic. Especially with two officers down and a trainee with them (by the way who killed the perp) excellent shot trainee 💪🏽 🔫
@@chrisdee9620 I don’t know what you are listening too, but here is one of the latest best handle by Distpach and distressed officers. You can understand everything.
th-cam.com/video/LH2r_76gWWU/w-d-xo.html
@@MediosCorporativos The difference is that NYPD has more resources and Precincts. However there are also 2 Centrals covering simultaneously which makes the process quicker. Especially with how stressful this can be.
Comms during combat and evacuations of dead and wounded are chaotic. Radio operators in the military know this, police experience to a lesser degree
Stepping all over each other. Rest in peace brother
As an UMOS, I heard the important details on the radio. I understand what happened and what they were saying. On this night, it was the most horrible night ever, god bless you and your family. We’ll take the line from here brothers, god speed.
What’s a UMOS?
@@EastsideSILENCER777 Uniformed Member Of Service
@@nardiaz4786 Oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh 😮 So you’re a cop?
I don't understand. It just keeps repeating the same things over and over.
XO should only be speaking….. yelling rush on a bus multiple times by multiple mos creates havoc…. horrible situation but units need to get control of emotions and need better radios
RIP
Some 10-85 calls are really 10-13 but unless it’s really bad a lot of cops don’t like to waste a 13.
Holy moly, why in all heck are these guys screaming randomly into the radio? The fire dispatch on 9/11 was less chaotic…even after the towers fell (which says a lot). Dispatch is trying but people are even yelling over her mid sentence. If I was listening to this with no context I’d think this was civilians on a line as it sounds like panic. It gets better halfway through…but I’m mind-blown.
RIP💙
All you former MOS understand how it is, how the fog of war takes over, the traffic was a problem but don't pretend you don't understand how hectic shit gets. It's unfortunate but it is our reality. Don't quaterback these cops that are trying to save a life.
RIP 💙🖤
K did a great job. ! Trying to control the chaos ! ..unfortunately everyone was Stepping on one another ..Making harder..
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Yeah NewYorkers run their mouth way too much.
Absolutely great job by the dispatcher i know she must be tramatized for the rest of her life..much respect for professional RIP to both officers and to the heroic job the 3rd officer did in that apartment
I remember the rookie among them he shot the shooter killed him as he try 2 run
R.I.P BRAVE MEN🙏🙏
So sad RIP
Sad and emptying to hear. RIP
NYPD officers are the worst. They talk too much.
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Garbage radio discipline
People always screaming at Central. They have a job to do too
you see the people they hire ? nuff said
Yes and actually this central is a vet knows her stuff
They need proper protocol. They ALL need to listen to this!
We’ll 2 years on job shouldn’t be answering jobs anyway
3 years ! Is ok. (My opinion)
To lose your life for these lie life’s that don’t care about police officer hope the perpetrator fits in hell
This radio traffic is soooo very unacceptable. Too many people stepping over each other so many people hollering and screaming orders over the air. Rest in peace to Officer Jason Rivera. But this radio traffic was the worst. They all need to be retrained in RADIO TRAFFIC
I'm sorry this happened! But the dispatcher needs retraining! You DON'T ask for conditions on anyone over the air!
Huh? They have to ask so they can advise responding ems units and also hospital staff…
Wrong they have to ask to know how to assess the situation
@@Taurean_Black Well don’t I feel stupid! Thanks for letting me know!
Conditions of ANY MOS are to be told via phone ONLY!
@@chrisdee9620 No. They usually just say “likely” or “unlikely” as to their chances of… well… surviving. Specifics, well, yeah, phone only.
jesus fucking christ clear the radio and have some fucking leadership skills if that radio traffic ever happened in my city no one would last another minute control your radios
What city do you work in Mr. King Brandon?
@@chrisdee9620 that town with 5 related cops and 10 residents
NYPD sent an unseasoned cop to deal with domestic issue
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