Why should we ask Russia for permission to have European troops in Ukraine? Russia did not ask Europe for permission to have North Korean Troops on European continent
'Why should we ask Russia for permission to have European troops in Ukraine?' Because Russia is on the winning side, and you are losing. If the Europeans send troops to Ukraine, the Russians will kill them. You try it and see. And the Americans will not come to bail you out. Get it ? Numskull.
The only thing holding Europe back is lack of will. If everyone saw the threat and pulled in the same direction, Russia could only be a nuclear threat. And everyone, bar NK, is against that
@@tehokotkat And we are up for the task. I am astonished that it has taken this long for the news to catch up. Well I suppose once we are into the New Year everything will come out. I am not sure if I will live that long due to the stress and pent up rage.
Europeans have armies but they are trained for military exercises, not for fighting. Russia has an army that can fight and it knows combined arms warfare.
Doctrine of the EU armies is defence not offense. As long EU is not attacked the EU will hold its hands behind her back. ...and just waiting and waiting. No change for Ukraine this way. Only way Ukraine to survive is by a Coalition of the Willing (NATO members and other nations but no NATO as is no US boots on the ground). Or an invitation by the Ukraine Government to Poland and the Baltic states to ‘occupy’ Ukraine so Ukraine will become a straight member to EU and NATO. ...Ukraine will be seen as part of Poland a NATO-EU member. Can’t predict how the Russians would react but it seems likely that a steal mate will be reached by splitting Ukraine in half. In this scenario Kyiv will be a East/West Berlin kinda city. Refugees pro West can flee East Ukraine now because of the Russian upcoming cleansing
They need to make facts on the ground before the inauguration. They need to go all in send everything they have. A peace keeping force so big that it ends the war quickly.
And peace keeping force consisting of who ? Russia bars NATO. Even US does not want to send NATO. The Russians bar Europeans also as they are the very people who were aiding Ukraine to fight against Russia. So who do you have in mind ?
Diaper Donnie set Biden up to lose face, and the Afghan government to crash after releasing the five thousand Taliban killers. There was ZERO involvement from the Afghan Government to Trump's agreement, a critical failure of Donnie's choice. Biden has not set Trump up in any way here, so if Trump fails, it is all on him, not because he was "set up" by anyone. ZERO comparison. And to put a point on it, Soviets got burned badly when they went into Afghanistan in 1980. They've lost easily double the troops in Ukraine compared to what they lost in Afghanistan, and as for material, it is catastrophic. Putin is having his plants restore pre-Vietnam-era tanks to fight... that would be comparable to the US hauling M60's out of retirement.
Forcing a 20th century democracy on the Afghanis looked like a losing strategy to me, whereas Ukraine wants that and wants desperately to get away from it’s genocidal former overlord
If Ukrainians are defending Europe (and they are) why are European armies sitting on their hands and not fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Ukrainian heroes?
Because most european nations are part of NATO and thereby treaty bound. NATO sofar tried to stay out of the conflict as much as possible, while still providing equipment and bankrolling Ukrain. That sofar works as russia bleeds out. If NATO gets involved with its own national armies, that would be an escalation that may actually lead to a nuclear conflict. So careful what you wish for.
'why are European armies sitting on their hands and not fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Ukrainian heroes?' The European armies are afraid the Russians will kill them. Cowards cannot win wars.
Ukriane defending Europe, wtf you are talking about? Lets call "Ukraine fighting for its own territory" as really good narrative against Russian invasion, not for europeans security. Nasty EU and USA liberal politicans using ukrainan blood to try to push Russia to economic crash. Thats why everybody support now and ofc they later get gifted of that help. All was planned before 2014 special jewish group of newcons. This war is good excuse to cancel cheap energy and resources from Russian companies to open a more higher priced and better positioned market for USA supplies. This war is nothing about ideology, territory, people or democratic but only money and thise ugly warmongers who get richer.
December 7, 2024, White House press release "Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III announced today nearly $1 billion in additional security assistance to help Ukraine bolster its combat power amid Russia's continued aggression."
Marta is a very intelligent and articulate woman. I lived in Poland the year of Solidarity 1980. She understands both Putin and trump Marta is also a very beautiful woman and I wish I were in Poland now so I could speak with her about this war. I deliver medical aid to Ukraine My cousins live there.
Putin is a tyrant murdering dictator with a plan. The world is very different now from WWII . Putin seems to be wanting to take his country and everyone else backwards to that time.
There will be negotiations between the US and Russia. Ukraine and EU should not be present. Unless the US meets Russia's non-negotiable terms (Ukraine has to be neutral, and it has to cede 5 oblasts, no NATO and European 'peacekeepers'), Russia will ignore and continue the war, finish off the Donbass and advance to the Dnieper and then go after Odessa.
@@johnadam2885 and if those negotiations fall apart Russia might find the US is more aggressive under Trump. Maybe don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
Things fall apart, Europe cannot hold. Russia is ready for any situation. Putin said no matter how much support is given to Ukraine, it will only delay but not stop his special operation.
Hahaha send troops to Ukraine under which peace plan? You see European s are negotiating among themselves about a peace treaty that they have no say in. Europe is highly indebted, very small militaries,very small military industrial complexes meaning they are hardly prepared to go to war without full mobilisation of human and other resources. Where will the energy to fight and manufacture come from? 😂😂😂Don't wish for war but peace.
If European countries understand the common sense of the cost of security and take urgent steps to increase their defense budget to 3.5% to 4.0% of their GDP, it will satisfy Trump's wishes.
Interesting interview and very wise heads. 90% of your crystal ball analysis looks and sounds very likely. However, we should not forget that just as Europe and its Leaders are slowly and quietly showing their actions regarding the near future of Ukraine, they also do not mention the fact that if someone really shakes the Crystal ball, for example China attacks Taiwan next year or a year later, what will happen then and whether Europe and NATO will tell America, Trump, something like he is saying now, this is not our war, Ukraine is not our problem and therefore after shaking the crystal ball, Europe or NATO will tell him, this is not our problem, this Pacific region, watch for yourself, what would happen then, it cannot be predicted. But everything is possible. Only God have all picture.
If you want Lebensraum you have to go and get it! The Russians already do. When does the EU? ...she promised to stand with Ukraine. That’s not because of the people but the resources. The same reason why Putin is in Ukraine!
The bromance work,TVP, because history continues: Muscovy wrote on the walls of Kazan in 1551: "I am the legal successor of the Horde", in 1721: "I am the legal successor of All Russia", in 1991: "I am the legal successor of the Soviet Union". Now they are already writing to Trump :"I am the legal representative of Europe." You have already heard about 5% of GDP.
I tend to think that the worst is yet to come. That some Western powers previously intent on increasing supply to Ukraine's military will be pulling back on that material support. Trump's stance is a factor, but far from the only factor. Germany is headed for political change. France in the throes of political change. There is more, and none of it favors increased supply to Ukraine. It all tends toward reduced support, given the current political trends. If I were to take Canada as an example, and the fact that Zelenskyy said that Canada ought to increase its support to Ukraine, it seems unlikely that that is going to happen. Canada too is the throes of political instability and change. Leadership problems and an impending election are on the slate. Issues such as rising costs of living, increasing demands on food banks for those who cannot afford the costs of living, the homeless problem, the drug problem and more is tending to draw in the attention of the average Canadian to what are Canadian social and political problems. There is declining interest in supporting Ukraine and opposition to it is growing in light of other perceived national needs. So it does not look good, but Canada is not a unique exception. Other nations are feeling similar shifts toward a more nationalist, isolationist, viewpoint. So the pressures on Ukraine to enter into meaningful and realistic negotiations with Russia are going to increase, not decrease. It is also far less likely that Ukraine's supporters, allies, will be willing to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. The political climate is increasingly oppositional to any such move and yet it is entirely improbable that Ukraine can "win" the war without allies putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. We have seen enough, thus far, and it is clearly indicative of what the long term outcome, barring any allies putting boots on the ground, is certain to become. The one advantage for Ukraine is that Russia really does not want to go that distance if it can avoid it, and it would rather retain some capacity for positive relations with whatever geopolitical entities evolve from out of the conflict, rather than going all out, full force, to crush Ukraine more quickly or that completely. They are holding back and they seem intent on continuing to do so, but that does not assure that they will not escalate to that level as the war continues, without a negotiated resolution that serves the interests of all parties to the conflict.
? Why not Poland, the Baltic and Scandinavian countries , and Finland provide logistical troops inside Ukraine for the transportation of weapons to the combat zones? North Korean troops are already within the Russian combat line.
'Why not Poland, the Baltic and Scandinavian countries , and Finland provide logistical troops inside Ukraine for the transportation of weapons to the combat zones? ' They are afraid of being killed by a Kinzhal. Fifty Swedes were killed in a Poltava military academy where they were training Ukrainians in electronic warfare, when they were hit by a single Kinzhal.
I am not going there to fight war provoked by NATO the 💪 of ⚫🪨 so that map could look as it did 2013. You go there, Wickman. I won't throw my only life away so that bankers can have their fun.
Very good discussion! Maybe there is another way, not quick, but a must. A UN organised intervention force madeup of european armies and other member armies. Basicaly a sort of a bigger police department or jandarmerie, at global scale. Reason: With some exceptions (Putin etc) we already behave like living in a big city and not as individual isolated countries. That force can intervine in conflicts or prevent others by making order and arresting leaders with criminal actions (like Putin). So, no need for nukes. A model already exists: NATO. But a bigger one. A specialised intervention force, without any fancy nationalist poem based retoric, without any slogans, without nationalistic identity motivation, but more concentrated just on peace and order (like police for ex.). This kind of thing can be a well suited jobs for anybody that wants to make money by keeping the order, just like in a local police. I know this is a very complex and huge discussion to have, also a huge effort, but we all must look to ourselves, recognise who we are and have it, in order to not let people die anymore because one or another idiot dictator. Any war is producing so much damage not only to people, but to economies and environment. Without that force, UN is just a bunch of well fed people talking nonsense on big salaries. Humanity need this force now, not in the future!
Interesujący wywiad i bardzo mądre głowy. 90% twojej analizy kryształowej kuli wygląda i brzmi bardzo prawdopodobnie. Nie powinniśmy jednak zapominać, że tak jak Europa i jej przywódcy powoli i cicho pokazują swoje działania dotyczące niedalekiej przyszłości Ukrainy, tak samo nie wspominają o tym, że jeśli ktoś naprawdę potrząśnie kryształową kulą, na przykład Chiny zaatakują Tajwan w przyszłym roku lub rok później, co się wtedy stanie i czy Europa i NATO powiedzą Ameryce, Trumpowi, coś takiego jak mówi teraz, to nie jest nasza wojna, Ukraina nie jest naszym problemem i dlatego po potrząśnięciu kryształową kulą, Europa lub NATO powiedzą mu, to nie jest nasz problem, ten region Pacyfiku, zobacz sam, co by się wtedy stało, nie da się tego przewidzieć. Ale wszystko jest możliwe. Tylko Bóg ma cały obraz.
Same ideas that have failed. At least she acknowledges that Trump has unconventional methods, butI believe is very wrong if she thinks he can't do what he's said he'd do. I can think of several things he can do and they all seem to be beyond her imagination. Since I can't speak for him I'll leave it at that. She should ask herself what the impact of an American base would be in Ukraine? Impossible? Unlikely?
As if the US respected the statement James Baker made about NATO not expanding one inch to the east. You want something for nothing. It does not work like that with the Russians. If you agree to $1 in a transaction, they will give you $1. But if you shortchange them, they will give you a warning, and then punch you and knock you out.
Thank you, Adam, and guests. Interesting discussion. I think the least expensive way to end the war in Ukraine is give them everything they need to defeat Russia. Trump does not want to be seen as a loser in anything.
'give them everything they need to defeat Russia. ' is a failed rhetoric, no point continuing with that line after defeat. Firstly, Ukraine does not have manpower, it cannot recruit enough, and the ones sent to the frontlines now are deserting. Secondly, the US does not have money and arms of quality and quantity to give.
They already received it. Plus that is zero concern for Ukraine in this proxy war. In 18 months Ukr will lose 2 generations of men that would be irreplaceable as they have upside down demographics and even in a future peace will be replaced by Russians in their country.
WASHINGTON Dec. 10, 2024 "The Treasury Department said Tuesday it would disburse $20 billion - the U.S. portion of a $50 billion multinational loan to Ukraine, backed by Russia’s frozen central bank assets - before Biden leaves the White House."
Perhaps, Schroeder, Sarkozy, Merkel, Cameron, Hollande etc. can come on and explain to us why they decided to demilitarise? Did they think Putin was a safe bet?
They thought they had won the cold war, and they could threaten Russia with NATO expansion and Russia was too weak to retaliate. Now you know how strong Russia is - it has defeated the collective west, you are begging for a freeze to the conflict.
Trump is not politician but businessman for the lack of better word He does not have needed imagination to see Europe weight in World scale He will loose eventually with his pure economic way of thinkng about it
As much as I dislike Trump, actually the results of his actions could be something good. A new global military super power - Europe. The vast financial muscles are already there, just the decisions are lacking.
When the USA invaded the European continent in World War II, they found a continent of defeated nations that needed to be rescued. But in the current situation there is a continent of fully restored nations that are fully capable of raising armies, navies and air forces. The US Forces can come forward, but they need to see Polish forces on their right, French forces on their left and German forces making up the armored and artillery units and UK forces making up some air units. NATO needs to be a "rainbow" of units from all European nations. In this way every European nation can see their brothers standing shoulder to shoulder as they move forward.
Zelensky will not go for a cease-fire, because his conditions are contrary to Putin's demands. The only choice Diaper Donnie has is to start giving Ukraine more efficient weapons, and that Europe will send country-based defence contingents (not NATO, as much as Mad Vlad will scream) to aid Ukraine, just like Russia is getting DPRK soldiers and other Eastern and African mercenaries.
Could we stop the Russian aggression directed toward Ukraine simply announcing Ukraine will not join NATO. Nations in the western hemisphere could continue to aid Ukraine. Both Russia and Ukraine could therefore agree to a peace policy.
Why should we ask Russia for permission to have European troops in Ukraine? Russia did not ask Europe for permission to have North Korean Troops on European continent
No asking crazy about anything!!
'Why should we ask Russia for permission to have European troops in Ukraine?'
Because Russia is on the winning side, and you are losing. If the Europeans send troops to Ukraine, the Russians will kill them. You try it and see. And the Americans will not come to bail you out. Get it ? Numskull.
Because nobody remember M.K, Jr. The silence of good people is more dangerous than the brutality of the bad one such as Putler.
Is escalation and Russia could attack those troops that are at end people with European wives, mothers and kids. It would risk a ww3
A war does not end sending more troops and weapons. Ends by de escalation and negotiation
Europe needs to STOP being week freeloaders off of American security guarantees. America needs a partner in Europe, not a continual succubus.
Europe has to now be the strongest force in the world.
You really do live in a delusional multiverse.Without the USA right now, Europe cannot fight Russia. You lot really live in myth.
Mostly yeas, until/at least US gets a bit "calm" in them.
The only thing holding Europe back is lack of will. If everyone saw the threat and pulled in the same direction, Russia could only be a nuclear threat. And everyone, bar NK, is against that
@@tehokotkat And we are up for the task. I am astonished that it has taken this long for the news to catch up. Well I suppose once we are into the New Year everything will come out. I am not sure if I will live that long due to the stress and pent up rage.
How could it happen more than half of euros are lgbtqrstz😂😂😂
Why does Europe have armies if they aren't going to use them when they're obviously needed?
NATO was created to contain Russia.
Exactly.
Europeans have armies but they are trained for military exercises, not for fighting. Russia has an army that can fight and it knows combined arms warfare.
@@johnadam2885right vlad, when is this ruskie army turning up??? 😂😂
Doctrine of the EU armies is defence not offense. As long EU is not attacked the EU will hold its hands behind her back. ...and just waiting and waiting. No change for Ukraine this way. Only way Ukraine to survive is by a Coalition of the Willing (NATO members and other nations but no NATO as is no US boots on the ground). Or an invitation by the Ukraine Government to Poland and the Baltic states to ‘occupy’ Ukraine so Ukraine will become a straight member to EU and NATO. ...Ukraine will be seen as part of Poland a NATO-EU member. Can’t predict how the Russians would react but it seems likely that a steal mate will be reached by splitting Ukraine in half. In this scenario Kyiv will be a East/West Berlin kinda city.
Refugees pro West can flee East Ukraine now because of the Russian upcoming cleansing
They need to make facts on the ground before the inauguration. They need to go all in send everything they have. A peace keeping force so big that it ends the war quickly.
Absolutely!
Biden is sending everything he can, now. Congress has not been on his side.
..I would not bet on it..
And peace keeping force consisting of who ? Russia bars NATO. Even US does not want to send NATO. The Russians bar Europeans also as they are the very people who were aiding Ukraine to fight against Russia. So who do you have in mind ?
Have a good move to the New Year TVP World team
Europe needs to handle Europe.
America doesn't needs to be in the middle.
If no peace,it’ll be someone else’s fault for sure.
Why does this woman keep pushing the Afghanistan analogy vs Ukraine nowhere near the same
Exactly the same. Trump throwing allies under the bus. Add the Kurds in Northern Iraq that Trump stabbed in the back to his shameful record.
I agree 100%
Diaper Donnie set Biden up to lose face, and the Afghan government to crash after releasing the five thousand Taliban killers. There was ZERO involvement from the Afghan Government to Trump's agreement, a critical failure of Donnie's choice.
Biden has not set Trump up in any way here, so if Trump fails, it is all on him, not because he was "set up" by anyone.
ZERO comparison. And to put a point on it, Soviets got burned badly when they went into Afghanistan in 1980. They've lost easily double the troops in Ukraine compared to what they lost in Afghanistan, and as for material, it is catastrophic. Putin is having his plants restore pre-Vietnam-era tanks to fight... that would be comparable to the US hauling M60's out of retirement.
Forcing a 20th century democracy on the Afghanis looked like a losing strategy to me, whereas Ukraine wants that and wants desperately to get away from it’s genocidal former overlord
@Bakes-z4c checkout Afghanistan before the Russians and Taliban took over. It was a monarchy and a normal 1960s nation
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If Ukrainians are defending Europe (and they are) why are European armies sitting on their hands and not fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Ukrainian heroes?
Because most european nations are part of NATO and thereby treaty bound. NATO sofar tried to stay out of the conflict as much as possible, while still providing equipment and bankrolling Ukrain. That sofar works as russia bleeds out. If NATO gets involved with its own national armies, that would be an escalation that may actually lead to a nuclear conflict. So careful what you wish for.
Good question!
'why are European armies sitting on their hands and not fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Ukrainian heroes?'
The European armies are afraid the Russians will kill them. Cowards cannot win wars.
@@kinngrimm That attitude and fear is what's killing Ukrainians.
Ukriane defending Europe, wtf you are talking about? Lets call "Ukraine fighting for its own territory" as really good narrative against Russian invasion, not for europeans security. Nasty EU and USA liberal politicans using ukrainan blood to try to push Russia to economic crash. Thats why everybody support now and ofc they later get gifted of that help. All was planned before 2014 special jewish group of newcons. This war is good excuse to cancel cheap energy and resources from Russian companies to open a more higher priced and better positioned market for USA supplies. This war is nothing about ideology, territory, people or democratic but only money and thise ugly warmongers who get richer.
Great Round, smart persons giving clear insides. Wish you all a happy and healthy new year. Greetings from Germany
She says leadership is overrated 😂😂😂 that’s why Europe is going downhill FAST
I agree- the manufacturing capacity is there, plenty of people and capital, just the will is missing
At which stage did Donald Trump realise his promise to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours was an absolute joke?
😱 you didn’t tell him, did you?
Because drawing lines on a map according to war and victors has never caused any problems.
TVP / Marta Prochwicz,, 👍🌟👍
There will be no European/NATO troops in Ukraine. Russia said NET, you are not paying attention.
Why does the Federation get a say in European troops!
these people are delusional and do not understand the root cause. without it this is meaningless
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.
Saying Russia is the USSR.
Siedzę i macham głową z nie do wiarą o czym wy mówicie.
Putin ghost fleet cut cables in the Baltic Sea
December 7, 2024,
White House press release
"Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III announced today nearly $1 billion in additional security assistance to help Ukraine bolster its combat power amid Russia's continued aggression."
who will do defense and foreign affairs? duda or tusk? confusing
It’s either that or surrender and waste all that money.
The guests should have had a hard strong look at the crystal ball. Too bad.
This topic is already out of date on release.. Putin has already said no to talking to Zelensky at all.
Marta is a very intelligent and articulate woman. I lived in Poland the year of Solidarity 1980. She understands both Putin and trump Marta is also a very beautiful woman and I wish I were in Poland now so I could speak with her about this war. I deliver medical aid to Ukraine My cousins live there.
European people on average don't want to. Continue to participate in any conflict in Ukraine ..does not make sense to them..
It’s sad that this is likely. If the neo Nazis want manufacturing jobs, a big military spend up would deliver
Trump wanting to talk with Putin is like Roosevelt wanting to talk with Hitler.
Why isn't Ukraine a votal interest? Iran and China are backing its enemy, and Trump sees these countries as a direct threat to the US.
Even more stalin (putins idol).
But he did talk to Stalin. That’s what he felt he had to do, at the time, but I think in the long term, bad idea
Putin is a tyrant murdering dictator with a plan. The world is very different now from WWII . Putin seems to be wanting to take his country and everyone else backwards to that time.
There is nothing wrong with talking.
Only for the easily offended!
With American encouragement? What are you, a bunch of cowards?
Bingo!
Americans are their dad
..and why should Russia ask the west to bring in the North Korean soldiers?
Putin has been asking that to happen for years😂😂😂
There will be negotiations between the US and Russia. Ukraine and EU should not be present. Unless the US meets Russia's non-negotiable terms (Ukraine has to be neutral, and it has to cede 5 oblasts, no NATO and European 'peacekeepers'), Russia will ignore and continue the war, finish off the Donbass and advance to the Dnieper and then go after Odessa.
@@johnadam2885 and if those negotiations fall apart Russia might find the US is more aggressive under Trump. Maybe don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
Things fall apart, Europe cannot hold. Russia is ready for any situation. Putin said no matter how much support is given to Ukraine, it will only delay but not stop his special operation.
Its a war but you cant say that, vlad 😂😂
Hahaha send troops to Ukraine under which peace plan? You see European s are negotiating among themselves about a peace treaty that they have no say in. Europe is highly indebted, very small militaries,very small military industrial complexes meaning they are hardly prepared to go to war without full mobilisation of human and other resources. Where will the energy to fight and manufacture come from? 😂😂😂Don't wish for war but peace.
If European countries understand the common sense of the cost of security and take urgent steps to increase their defense budget to 3.5% to 4.0% of their GDP, it will satisfy Trump's wishes.
It will foster US arms business, Trump will be satisfied, but Europe will be impoverished, will it have the money to buy US arms ?
What a duo Council of foreign relation and TVP... for piece??? lol
No,no.Europe will pay 5% to NATO but not on the border with P , because it is better for T to share with P than euro money in frozen war.
this program fully I watched those three person talking like kids 😂
Kule krysztalowe przepowiadanie przyszlosci Hokus pokus kurwa 😂
Interesting interview and very wise heads. 90% of your crystal ball analysis looks and sounds very likely. However, we should not forget that just as Europe and its Leaders are slowly and quietly showing their actions regarding the near future of Ukraine, they also do not mention the fact that if someone really shakes the Crystal ball, for example China attacks Taiwan next year or a year later, what will happen then and whether Europe and NATO will tell America, Trump, something like he is saying now, this is not our war, Ukraine is not our problem and therefore after shaking the crystal ball, Europe or NATO will tell him, this is not our problem, this Pacific region, watch for yourself, what would happen then, it cannot be predicted. But everything is possible. Only God have all picture.
Sure in china, and russia there is the most "adult wise" desicions?
If you want Lebensraum you have to go and get it! The Russians already do. When does the EU? ...she promised to stand with Ukraine. That’s not because of the people but the resources. The same reason why Putin is in Ukraine!
The bromance work,TVP, because history continues: Muscovy wrote on the walls of Kazan in 1551: "I am the legal successor of the Horde", in 1721: "I am the legal successor of All Russia", in 1991: "I am the legal successor of the Soviet Union". Now they are already writing to Trump :"I am the legal representative of Europe." You have already heard about 5% of GDP.
I tend to think that the worst is yet to come. That some Western powers previously intent on increasing supply to Ukraine's military will be pulling back on that material support. Trump's stance is a factor, but far from the only factor. Germany is headed for political change. France in the throes of political change. There is more, and none of it favors increased supply to Ukraine. It all tends toward reduced support, given the current political trends. If I were to take Canada as an example, and the fact that Zelenskyy said that Canada ought to increase its support to Ukraine, it seems unlikely that that is going to happen. Canada too is the throes of political instability and change. Leadership problems and an impending election are on the slate. Issues such as rising costs of living, increasing demands on food banks for those who cannot afford the costs of living, the homeless problem, the drug problem and more is tending to draw in the attention of the average Canadian to what are Canadian social and political problems. There is declining interest in supporting Ukraine and opposition to it is growing in light of other perceived national needs. So it does not look good, but Canada is not a unique exception. Other nations are feeling similar shifts toward a more nationalist, isolationist, viewpoint. So the pressures on Ukraine to enter into meaningful and realistic negotiations with Russia are going to increase, not decrease. It is also far less likely that Ukraine's supporters, allies, will be willing to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. The political climate is increasingly oppositional to any such move and yet it is entirely improbable that Ukraine can "win" the war without allies putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. We have seen enough, thus far, and it is clearly indicative of what the long term outcome, barring any allies putting boots on the ground, is certain to become. The one advantage for Ukraine is that Russia really does not want to go that distance if it can avoid it, and it would rather retain some capacity for positive relations with whatever geopolitical entities evolve from out of the conflict, rather than going all out, full force, to crush Ukraine more quickly or that completely. They are holding back and they seem intent on continuing to do so, but that does not assure that they will not escalate to that level as the war continues, without a negotiated resolution that serves the interests of all parties to the conflict.
? Why not Poland, the Baltic and Scandinavian countries , and Finland provide logistical troops inside Ukraine for the transportation of weapons to the combat zones?
North Korean troops are already within the Russian combat line.
'Why not Poland, the Baltic and Scandinavian countries , and Finland provide logistical troops inside Ukraine for the transportation of weapons to the combat zones? '
They are afraid of being killed by a Kinzhal. Fifty Swedes were killed in a Poltava military academy where they were training Ukrainians in electronic warfare, when they were hit by a single Kinzhal.
I am not going there to fight war provoked by NATO the 💪 of ⚫🪨 so that map could look as it did 2013. You go there, Wickman. I won't throw my only life away so that bankers can have their fun.
my anological question to you. when will the truth be told ??
Why is this woman so pro Trump? He's a bafoon!
Very good discussion!
Maybe there is another way, not quick, but a must. A UN organised intervention force madeup of european armies and other member armies. Basicaly a sort of a bigger police department or jandarmerie, at global scale.
Reason:
With some exceptions (Putin etc) we already behave like living in a big city and not as individual isolated countries. That force can intervine in conflicts or prevent others by making order and arresting leaders with criminal actions (like Putin). So, no need for nukes.
A model already exists: NATO. But a bigger one. A specialised intervention force, without any fancy nationalist poem based retoric, without any slogans, without nationalistic identity motivation, but more concentrated just on peace and order (like police for ex.). This kind of thing can be a well suited jobs for anybody that wants to make money by keeping the order, just like in a local police.
I know this is a very complex and huge discussion to have, also a huge effort, but we all must look to ourselves, recognise who we are and have it, in order to not let people die anymore because one or another idiot dictator. Any war is producing so much damage not only to people, but to economies and environment. Without that force, UN is just a bunch of well fed people talking nonsense on big salaries.
Humanity need this force now, not in the future!
Interesujący wywiad i bardzo mądre głowy. 90% twojej analizy kryształowej kuli wygląda i brzmi bardzo prawdopodobnie. Nie powinniśmy jednak zapominać, że tak jak Europa i jej przywódcy powoli i cicho pokazują swoje działania dotyczące niedalekiej przyszłości Ukrainy, tak samo nie wspominają o tym, że jeśli ktoś naprawdę potrząśnie kryształową kulą, na przykład Chiny zaatakują Tajwan w przyszłym roku lub rok później, co się wtedy stanie i czy Europa i NATO powiedzą Ameryce, Trumpowi, coś takiego jak mówi teraz, to nie jest nasza wojna, Ukraina nie jest naszym problemem i dlatego po potrząśnięciu kryształową kulą, Europa lub NATO powiedzą mu, to nie jest nasz problem, ten region Pacyfiku, zobacz sam, co by się wtedy stało, nie da się tego przewidzieć. Ale wszystko jest możliwe. Tylko Bóg ma cały obraz.
Same ideas that have failed. At least she acknowledges that Trump has unconventional methods, butI believe is very wrong if she thinks he can't do what he's said he'd do. I can think of several things he can do and they all seem to be beyond her imagination. Since I can't speak for him I'll leave it at that. She should ask herself what the impact of an American base would be in Ukraine? Impossible? Unlikely?
How many failed casinos?
I got to laugh , Russia not respecting the international agreement ...Russia had never ever respectet any agreement since it's conception ...
As if the US respected the statement James Baker made about NATO not expanding one inch to the east.
You want something for nothing. It does not work like that with the Russians. If you agree to $1 in a transaction, they will give you $1. But if you shortchange them, they will give you a warning, and then punch you and knock you out.
Putins going down lol
European troops in Ukraine looks like a great idea. But were foreign mercenaries in Ukraine and where are now? Europeans want to die for Zelenski?
The way this anchor and participants are talking about Ukraine becoming stronger and holding the line ..is just sheer delusion...
Thank you, Adam, and guests. Interesting discussion. I think the least expensive way to end the war in Ukraine is give them everything they need to defeat Russia. Trump does not want to be seen as a loser in anything.
'give them everything they need to defeat Russia. ' is a failed rhetoric, no point continuing with that line after defeat.
Firstly, Ukraine does not have manpower, it cannot recruit enough, and the ones sent to the frontlines now are deserting.
Secondly, the US does not have money and arms of quality and quantity to give.
They already received it. Plus that is zero concern for Ukraine in this proxy war.
In 18 months Ukr will lose 2 generations of men that would be irreplaceable as they have upside down demographics and even in a future peace will be replaced by Russians in their country.
The europeans will decide what europe does. Not the orange buffoon
WASHINGTON
Dec. 10, 2024
"The Treasury Department said Tuesday it would disburse $20 billion - the U.S. portion of a $50 billion multinational loan to Ukraine, backed by Russia’s frozen central bank assets - before Biden leaves the White House."
Perhaps, Schroeder, Sarkozy, Merkel, Cameron, Hollande etc. can come on and explain to us why they decided to demilitarise? Did they think Putin was a safe bet?
They thought they had won the cold war, and they could threaten Russia with NATO expansion and Russia was too weak to retaliate. Now you know how strong Russia is - it has defeated the collective west, you are begging for a freeze to the conflict.
Panowie i Panie z mediow pierwsi pojadą.
Turkish or Israeli peacekeepers.
deleting my comment? WTF?
It was so stupid. 😂😂
TH-cam has been amping up that since last January
Trump is not politician but businessman for the lack of better word
He does not have needed imagination to see Europe weight in World scale
He will loose eventually with his pure economic way of thinkng about it
The host should not BUTT-IN when the guest have not finished. He annoys me....
As much as I dislike Trump, actually the results of his actions could be something good. A new global military super power - Europe. The vast financial muscles are already there, just the decisions are lacking.
When the USA invaded the European continent in World War II, they found a continent of defeated nations that needed to be rescued. But in the current situation there is a continent of fully restored nations that are fully capable of raising armies, navies and air forces. The US Forces can come forward, but they need to see Polish forces on their right, French forces on their left and German forces making up the armored and artillery units and UK forces making up some air units. NATO needs to be a "rainbow" of units from all European nations. In this way every European nation can see their brothers standing shoulder to shoulder as they move forward.
Nato needs the UN.
These people on this show are essentially pushing for WW3.
They're definetly fans of Fallout
no they are telling facts. trump is ignorant about facts always.
The girl is from the council on foreign relations. What did you expect.
❤eomen prety mwn❤❤ru
That'll never happen.
Zelensky will not go for a cease-fire, because his conditions are contrary to Putin's demands.
The only choice Diaper Donnie has is to start giving Ukraine more efficient weapons, and that Europe will send country-based defence contingents (not NATO, as much as Mad Vlad will scream) to aid Ukraine, just like Russia is getting DPRK soldiers and other Eastern and African mercenaries.
she's Russia
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Mushroom in london, warsaw is also a matter of time.
How about mushrooms in Moscow and St. PETERSBURG?
Trump Effect
Trump suck
Could we stop the Russian aggression directed toward Ukraine simply announcing Ukraine will not join NATO.
Nations in the western hemisphere could continue to aid Ukraine.
Both Russia and Ukraine could therefore agree to a peace policy.
No because putin is an imperialist and Ukraine joining NATO is not his problem. It's just bs line to sell to the gullible.
no Putin requires Ukriane military to be no More than 50,000 troops, Ukriane must not be armed.
@@gregmchale5011 Yes. same as they demanded in 2022.
It,s not about Nato.
Leadership overrated? Would Marta say that if Kamala Harris won?